how do i get plat

[dray]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

[Angelus_dead]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat
The easiest way is to make an LFM saying "i am new gimme plat PLEEEEASE"

[Gunga]

Pwnymart.

[parvo]

Hi Dray. The best way to get plat is to level up your character so it is capable of doing high level quests. DDO is not intended to be solo friendly. Join groups and you will level up faster.

[QuintonReece]

Roll up a haggle bard. Mainly to sell stuff at a better price but also to buy at a better price.

[toughguyjoe]

The easiest way is to make an LFM saying "i am new gimme plat PLEEEEASE"


Wow. that was very helpful sir, thank you.


Ignore people who post things like A_D did. Joing roups, gain XP. Once you are higher level you'll get more stuff. until then just plug along my friend. We all had to do it at some point.

[PurdueDave]

In addition to the previous (notably grouping and leveling), you can also try and sell a few vials of pure water and silver flame hymnals on the Auction House.

[dray]

ok so i will stick to lvling but how am i suppose to afford gear quest rewards suck

[Tabun]

Roll a Bard?

[MASHER]

ok so i will stick to lvling but how am i suppose to afford gear quest rewards suck

It just takes time from running higher level quests as you level your toons...end rewards do get better as you increase your level. The other thing is you could find a good guild and you can get lots of good stuff...high level gear that is being handed off to each other just because inventories are full ;-)

But in the end, just keep running and levelling and eventually you will have lots of plat..unless of course you are a cleric :p

[JoeyJoJoJr]

ok so i will stick to lvling but how am i suppose to afford gear quest rewards suck

at low level the quest rewards are pretty terrible. you'll soon start to see better loot drop in chests and end rewards. just stick with it.

a habit i got in was i will pick up everything. every single collectable, potion, arrows and copper peice. I turn in the collectables and sell what they give me.

making use of the AH is also a good skill. Alot of older players, myself included, just buy lowbie items off the AH when making a new toon. Like +1 Flaming/icy/electric weps. +2 stat items. Things like that. Just throw them on the AH for 3 days with a fair buyout (i usually put 2-3x the starting price) and there's a good chance someone will buy it. Which means money for you.

Other then that... Just get yourself into as many groups as possible. The lootz will come to you.

[Darth_Sizzle]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

When I roll a new character, I find that I don't start making any plat until around lvl 10-12 (about the time you'll start running Gianthold quests). Up until then I'm usually sending money (and potions) from my capped characters.

[ace_mason]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

Is dray your name ingame?
Another good way to make some cash is farming collectables. If you get a lightning split soarwood you can make 25-35kpp on the ah for it. Look me up on any of my toons and ill show you a good spot a lvl 4 wiz can farm them and how to do it.

[dray]

alright thx all for your help!!!

[Darth_Sizzle]

alright thx all for your help!!!

What server are you on?

[parvo]

ok so i will stick to lvling but how am i suppose to afford gear quest rewards suck

What do you need gear for? Most of your groups are going to be filled with zerging zoomonkeys who will run off in all directions and finish the quest without your assistance anyway. Just ride the wave. When you get to a point where gear is more helpful, you'll have the plat.

[shores11]

What do you need gear for? Most of your groups are going to be filled with zerging zoomonkeys who will run off in all directions and finish the quest without your assistance anyway. Just ride the wave. When you get to a point where gear is more helpful, you'll have the plat.

I disagree with this post if you want to find a group that will quest together you can. If you can't right at the moment you want to run a quest put up an LFM and type in no zerging. However if zerging is for you then no worries here, zerg away.

[shores11]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

It really is about accumulation to get enough platinum and gold to sustain yourself. It is also very difficult at the lower levels. It is in my opinion always better to run in groups especially at the lower levels and especially for a wizard.

Wizards are also maybe one of the most expensive characters to bring through the lower levels because you have to buy scribing aterials to scribe your scrolls into your spell book. I find that once you get at a higher level and when you maintain about 75k to 150k plat in your coin purse you will be fairly comfortable with doing just about anything in the game that cost gold or plat.

[cdbd3rd]

Is dray your name ingame?
Another good way to make some cash is farming collectables. If you get a lightning split soarwood you can make 25-35kpp on the ah for it. Look me up on any of my toons and ill show you a good spot a lvl 4 wiz can farm them and how to do it.

Any of the collectables used in the crafting recipes will sell on AH, which is one of the best plat makers I've seen for lowbie chars.

Even those irritating stacks of prayer beads will sell for ~100gp/bead buyout.

Vials of Pure Water, I put buyouts at 20k gp/vial buyout and they sell quickly.
Funerary Tokens, I get about 1.5k/token buyout.

Tome: Prophecies of Khybers go for 80-100k gp buyouts.


Other collectables can sell well if they have good turn-ins associated with them.
Icons of Khyber sell good, but trade in first few yourself to get a Lesser Reptilian Bane weapon first. (Lots of kobolds in lowbie quests) ;)


These are a few examples. Watch for similar items on the AH on your server to see what the local price range is, and set yours a little lower for a quick sale.


One other thought: the vendor junk you get, take the time to run the items to their respective brokers. The brokers will pay a higher percentage for items than innkeepers/vendors.

[Arianrhod]

As others have mentioned, for the most part you'll probably have to just get used to never having enough money until you get to higher levels. When you join groups, let them know this is your first character, so they won't expect you to drink potions like candy and have every wand/scroll available. If you're lucky, some kind soul may even give you something you can use.

When it comes to getting gear, you're right, most end rewards aren't going to be much use to you. As a wizard, you'll want to keep an eye out for some of the better ones: From Waterworks (4-quest series), the Black Widow Bracers (+4 AC). From Shan-to Kor (3-or 4-quest series, depending on whether the group does the optional Helm side quest), the Puzzle Cap (+2 Int helm). Also useful are the +2 con necklace and the +4 reflex save goggles. From Catacombs (annoying 7-or so quest series), Marguerite's Necklace (False Life). From Tangleroot (somewhat less annoying 7-quest series), Crimson Gemstone (+50 spellpoint trinket), Black Wolfskin Belt (+3 con belt), various other interesting items (many people like to get at least one set of the Death Ward goggles).

Still, you'll want to get some stuff off the AH as well, and that takes cash. As others have mentioned, some collectibles can sell for a lot - Gold Coins from Festivult, Tomes of Prophecy, and Vials of Pure Water should sell for quite a bit. Also, should you be lucky enough to pull a Muckbane from the Durk's got a Secret quest, be sure to put it on the AH if you're not keeping it for yourself - you should be able to get a lot more for it there than from a broker. Same with Ring of Feathers from Shan-to Kor - these things may not look like much, but you'd be amazed how much the rich will pay for them ;)

[Rholt25]

Any of the collectables used in the crafting recipes will sell on AH, which is one of the best plat makers I've seen for lowbie chars.

Even those irritating stacks of prayer beads will sell for ~100gp/bead buyout.

Vials of Pure Water, I put buyouts at 20k gp/vial buyout and they sell quickly.
Funerary Tokens, I get about 1.5k/token buyout.

Tome: Prophecies of Khybers go for 80-100k gp buyouts.



Is there a list somewhere that shows all collectibles that are used in crafting?

[Impaqt]

Your new to the game. It takes time. Most of us have 2-3 years into this game already. We did not start out with all the plat and items we ave now. we busted our but on our first character and built up our wealth over time.

That being said, the last couple lowbies I rad I hardly sent them anything. Korthos Island is FILLED with realy nice gear for end rewards. You can easily make it to l6-8 with just the stuff you gather from Korthos on a Wizard.

[Zenako]

I can relate slightly since I was starting up a few new characters on another server.

I managed to pull a gold festival coin this past month and just popped that on the AH and that nicely set him up (and the other characters as well) for a while. Collectibles are an easy way to make more money, or to get useful potions and wands. There are some nice lists of what each type will get you and where to turn them in.

Make sure you really farmed out all the useful clickies from Korthos Isle/Village and then use them. I know I made sure to keep using the Aid Spell clickies all the time. Basically those were free Cure potions, since I did not have to heal any of that damage once the Aid spell went away. Little things like that can help avoid expenses.

Also not sure what your CHArisma is, but if you find any Haggle bonus item, hold onto the best one you have, and make sure your CHArisma is boosted as high as you can when buying or selling. If you have a SKILL Boost enhancement, use that to affect your Haggle and thus your net expenses or earnings when buying and selling. Selling to Barkeeps is the worst place to sell for almost all items. They have the lowest base offer.

While the little difference don't seem to matter, it is kinda like compounding interest in a bank account. They REALLY add up over time.

[Timjc86]

Is there a list somewhere that shows all collectibles that are used in crafting?

Check out this wiki page (http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/Stone_of_Change_-_Recipes) and/or this thread (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=132855).

[wamjratl1]

http/www/platfarmerzzzzforddolosers.com (http://www.platfarmerzzzzforddolosers.com)

JK OP. DO what others have advised. Also, pick up everything you see drop and sell it. Use collectables (sell them on AH or turn them end and use/sell rewards). Eventually, maybe even before lvl 10 or so, you'll pull one really good item that you can sell for a lot of plat and you'll be bankrolled. Mine was a Planar Grid fro Xorian Cipher. Pulled one on my first run through (never pulled one since :-( ) and a guy traded me a tome and some other items for it. I had no idea of it's worth but made 250k plat selling tome on AH and never regretted making the trade. Don't think you need to re-gear at every level either. Casters aren't as gear dependeant early on as other classes so just have fun slowly making pokat until you hit it big.

[Steiner-Davion]

I managed to pull a gold festival coin this past month and just popped that on the AH and that nicely set him up (and the other characters as well) for a while. Collectibles are an easy way to make more money, or to get useful potions and wands. There are some nice lists of what each type will get you and where to turn them in.

Such as my list in my signature. Also be sure to check out my segment on DDOCast (available on iTunes or via www.ddocast.com)


Is there a list somewhere that shows all collectibles that are used in crafting?

I think people already linked to one, but I'll be sure to point them out in my thread when I get home tonight.

[rimble]

Break everything in quests. Pick up everything that drops. Use the few things you can, like potions and such, sell the rest.

Collect every collectible. Sell the following collectibles on the AH for the going rate (a little less, actually, to guarantee a sale):

Vial of Pure Water
String of Prayer Beads
Silver Flame Hymnal
Tome: Prophecies of Khyber
Luminescent Dust
Fragrant Drowshood Mushroom
Lighting-Split Soarwood (these are actually surprisingly rare)
Funerary Token

Everything else turn in the collectibles for the reward. Use the reward if you can, sell it if you can't. If no one is buying any of your other collectibles then just turn those in too.

Being a Wizard is a great first class because their equipment needs are fairly minor.

[dray]

As others have mentioned, for the most part you'll probably have to just get used to never having enough money until you get to higher levels. When you join groups, let them know this is your first character, so they won't expect you to drink potions like candy and have every wand/scroll available. If you're lucky, some kind soul may even give you something you can use.

When it comes to getting gear, you're right, most end rewards aren't going to be much use to you. As a wizard, you'll want to keep an eye out for some of the better ones: From Waterworks (4-quest series), the Black Widow Bracers (+4 AC). From Shan-to Kor (3-or 4-quest series, depending on whether the group does the optional Helm side quest), the Puzzle Cap (+2 Int helm). Also useful are the +2 con necklace and the +4 reflex save goggles. From Catacombs (annoying 7-or so quest series), Marguerite's Necklace (False Life). From Tangleroot (somewhat less annoying 7-quest series), Crimson Gemstone (+50 spellpoint trinket), Black Wolfskin Belt (+3 con belt), various other interesting items (many people like to get at least one set of the Death Ward goggles).

Still, you'll want to get some stuff off the AH as well, and that takes cash. As others have mentioned, some collectibles can sell for a lot - Gold Coins from Festivult, Tomes of Prophecy, and Vials of Pure Water should sell for quite a bit. Also, should you be lucky enough to pull a Muckbane from the Durk's got a Secret quest, be sure to put it on the AH if you're not keeping it for yourself - you should be able to get a lot more for it there than from a broker. Same with Ring of Feathers from Shan-to Kor - these things may not look like much, but you'd be amazed how much the rich will pay for them ;)

ok that awnsered my question with alot of help from everyone here thx but i have 1 last question that i can't figure out and it is probly a simple solution but

how does and wizard or sorcerer do so much damage with burning hands this is driving me nuts watching lvls 5-6 using burning hands on mobs at on hard and wiping em mine does like 9 damage max

[Zenako]

ok that awnsered my question with alot of help from everyone here thx but i have 1 last question that i can't figure out and it is probly a simple solution but

how does and wizard or sorcerer do so much damage with burning hands this is driving me nuts watching lvls 5-6 using burning hands on mobs at on hard and wiping em mine does like 9 damage max

Feats, Enhancements and Items all can boost the amount of damage your spells will do. Maximize and Empower Feats ramp up the damage a lot. Superior Potency Items will up the damage another 50%, and you can boost the effects via Enhancements by up to another 40% plus increase the chances of getting a critical effect which doubles the damage again (IIRC). If you look about on the resources around here for info on these you will be able to find numerous ways to increase the damage output (often with increased spell point cost - with the Feats) or for no extra cost (Enhancements and items).

[rimble]

how does and wizard or sorcerer do so much damage with burning hands this is driving me nuts watching lvls 5-6 using burning hands on mobs at on hard and wiping em mine does like 9 damage max

Get the Fire Enhancements.

Use the Maximize and/or Empower Feats--this will burn through your spell points like crazy.

Get an item that adds +50% damage to your spells, like a Superior Potency I dagger or sceptre.

Get another item that adds +6% or more chance for you to critical hit with Fire spells, and get lucky and roll a crit.

[Mattee]

i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

How about you play the **** game??

Every other person here has done it at least once...

Oh.. I'm playing a game and I'm not even a quarter of the way through, an I don't know what I'm doing.

1. SELL YOUR JUNK!

2. MAKE SURE YOUR PLAY STYLE ISN'T SENDING YOU BROKE (If you're a wizzy, don't think you can run up to Bloodletter or even the Guardian of the Seal and go toe-to-toe.

3. GET A GROUP! If you wanna solo, play WOW or LOTR or something else that isn't GROUP ORIENTED.

4. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLAY IN A GROUP, WHY PLAY A GROUP-BASED GAME??

5. QUIT YER *****IN.

Honestly, I woke up to whinging kids because #3 stole #4's cereal bowl... I don't need this **** at this time of the morning.

[TommyBoy]

ok so i will stick to lvling but how am i suppose to afford gear quest rewards suck

as stated before

haggle bard (if done right very soloable at the lower lvls)
sell collectables on the ah
get higher lvl
patiants

but for the most part gear helps but isnt 100% needed. in fact there are several groups that do real well with out top notch gear.

[Gunga]

Joing roups, gain XP. Once you are higher level you'll get more stuff. until then just plug along my friend. We all had to do it at some point.

Rubbish. Ignore this and do what A_D said.

[Impaqt]

How about you play the **** game??

Every other person here has done it at least once...

Oh.. I'm playing a game and I'm not even a quarter of the way through, an I don't know what I'm doing.

1. SELL YOUR JUNK!

2. MAKE SURE YOUR PLAY STYLE ISN'T SENDING YOU BROKE (If you're a wizzy, don't think you can run up to Bloodletter or even the Guardian of the Seal and go toe-to-toe.

3. GET A GROUP! If you wanna solo, play WOW or LOTR or something else that isn't GROUP ORIENTED.

4. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLAY IN A GROUP, WHY PLAY A GROUP-BASED GAME??

5. QUIT YER *****IN.

Honestly, I woke up to whinging kids because #3 stole #4's cereal bowl... I don't need this **** at this time of the morning.

So your attitude is to act exactly like the kids? Get a grip. If you dont wanna help new players then dont respond. No need to get nasty. It took me several weeks to get a feel for the game before I was comfotable enough to start grouping with folks.

Dont pay atention to people like this Dray. They are indeed the Minority around here.

[Quikster]

Find a few helpfull people in yer grouping to lvl with.

Get to lvl 12.

Loot orchard, gianthold, and the vale till you cap in kills and puke.

You'll be capped and have a million plat.

Enjoy ;)

[Winded]

Since most here are best attempting , once again, to run off new palyers, Thought Id chime in.

Go here:

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Category:The_Stormreach_Economic_Series


Everything you need to know.

[wamjratl1]

How about you play the **** game??

Every other person here has done it at least once...

Oh.. I'm playing a game and I'm not even a quarter of the way through, an I don't know what I'm doing.

1. SELL YOUR JUNK!

2. MAKE SURE YOUR PLAY STYLE ISN'T SENDING YOU BROKE (If you're a wizzy, don't think you can run up to Bloodletter or even the Guardian of the Seal and go toe-to-toe.

3. GET A GROUP! If you wanna solo, play WOW or LOTR or something else that isn't GROUP ORIENTED.

4. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLAY IN A GROUP, WHY PLAY A GROUP-BASED GAME??

5. QUIT YER *****IN.

Honestly, I woke up to whinging kids because #3 stole #4's cereal bowl... I don't need this **** at this time of the morning.


There's a big difference between this OP's post and others we've seen with new fols saying "this game sucks. I don't make any plat blah blah blah..." The OP was asking a legitimate question...

[wamjratl1]

Since most here are best attempting , once again, to run off new palyers, Thought Id chime in.

Go here:

http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Category:The_Stormreach_Economic_Series


Everything you need to know.

whuh huh? I've only seen one response that wasn't helpful in some way... Lot's of good advice here for the OP.

[birminghampiper]

Keep questing, soon plat will be not so dear a resource. Simply take a little bit to make plat.
Do not worry about buying stuff of the AH, as you level the gear you purchase will become
useless. Run with what you loot. By level cap you will be plat heavy and satisfied with your
gear.
There was a time when I would twink my new characters only to delete them later as rerolls
because they did not meet my expectations at end game. Now I only use what I pull on new
rolls and they end up much better built by end game, as they were not artificially enhanced
at early levels.
The same stratagy works well for your current character long story short, too late, keep
questing and you'll get enough plat


i mean i can't find any dungeon that is worth doing alone i am a lvl 4 wiz and in order to do most dungeons i need to hire a henchman and i spend more money then i make it.

somone plz tell how to make a few plat

[Mellifera]

How about you play the **** game??

Every other person here has done it at least once...

Oh.. I'm playing a game and I'm not even a quarter of the way through, an I don't know what I'm doing.

1. SELL YOUR JUNK!

2. MAKE SURE YOUR PLAY STYLE ISN'T SENDING YOU BROKE (If you're a wizzy, don't think you can run up to Bloodletter or even the Guardian of the Seal and go toe-to-toe.

3. GET A GROUP! If you wanna solo, play WOW or LOTR or something else that isn't GROUP ORIENTED.

4. IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA PLAY IN A GROUP, WHY PLAY A GROUP-BASED GAME??

5. QUIT YER *****IN.

Honestly, I woke up to whinging kids because #3 stole #4's cereal bowl... I don't need this **** at this time of the morning.

Even though I'm currently Queen of Whine Land what with the 18 month old cutting not 1, not 2, not 3 but FOUR frikken teeth at once and who cant be counted on to say anything reliably besides Wheels, Buhbye, Yucky (thanks mom)and NO, along with the 6 month old who is a colicky non-napping nightmare, you'll notice I dont behave like a giant d**chebag to a new player who was only looking for help.

A few things that helped me:

If you can, put points into haggle at level up. Also be on the lookout for Command and haggle items. Command gives +2 to your CHA skills and it stacks with haggle.

Every ward has a quest series that once you run it will unlock better prices. For the Harbor its Waterworks, the Marketplace is STK, House J's is Delera, and as for the rest its been so long I cant remember.

Make use of the Brokers. Weapons in House D, armor/robes/outfits in House K and Jewelry, Clothing and the cheaper Armor options are all in the Rusty Nail in the Marketplace. They'll buy items in a certain range for than selling in a shop or tavern will get you.

As others have said break everything thats not nailed down and pick up everything that falls out. Those coppers start to add up. You never said what server youre on, but if its Thelanis send me a pm and I can send you a few things

[Shal]

How about you play the **** game??

Every other person here has done it at least once...

blah ... blah ... blah ...:rolleyes: first thing ... ignore people like this. lol. second, in a way hes right. but it could be worded alot more friendly. play the game. sounds simple enough, but theres more work to it than it sounds.

collect all your coppers when your running the quests. if your like me, and new to the game, then busting every crate and breaking every urn is interesteting. collect the pots, arrows, silvers and coppers out of them. use "backspace" and "U" to pick them up faster. at the very least, this should pay for equipment maintanance.

join groups. use the "lfg" (looking for groups) thing to find groups running quests that your interested in. when you ask to join a group, let them know that your a newbie and you need direction. more often than not, people are more than helpful. if theres nothing going on that your intersted in, then post your own lfg. be upfront and put in the discription something like "newbies welcome," or "experianced leader needed." ask if theres any special eauipment that you might need ... dont go into a quest fighting fire elementals with your flame sword. in order to keep up, find yourself a permanent action waterbreathing and feather fall item. and have them set up in your toolbars for easy and quick access if you dont plan to wear them all the time. these items can be very expencive, so after your group finishes out of the quest, go back for the coppers that everyone left behind. dont venture from the path the group took and you shouldnt run into any problems alone in there. most the people that i group with have run the quests dozens of times. they run through it quick, but thourouly. the rouge will disable the traps, and the tanks will buldoze anything in there paths, but they sometimes skip the side streets. collect carfully.

sell your usless items in the appropriat places. weapons valued over 17000gp should be taken to house j, and armor worth over 17000gp should be taken to house d. (or vise versa. i forget.) everything else should be taken to the rusty nail tavern in the marketplace, and sold to thier appropriate vendor. be on the lookout for an item to increase your haggle skill, and have your haggle item on when talking to the vendor. for a 1000gp item, they may give you an extra 10-20gp with a slightly better haggle skill. 1-2pp doesnt sound like much, but it adds up after time.

use the auction house ... but dont rely on it. i found this thread looking for collectables to be sold at the ah. be prepared when your bid for that low priced item you NEED, gets sniped by somebody else that needs it to. (sorry to the guy i sniped for the +3 frost greataxe for 600pp, but i had to have it :() selling stuff at auction can be a double bladed sword. you have to pay to post it, then IF it sells you have to pay a protion of the proceeds to the auction house too. i post stuff for bid that are collectables for two times the trade value, with a buyout of two times the retail price ... in hopes that someone who really needs it, gets it and doesnt get hammered by someone that just wants it for their collection.

im just starting out too, so my technique is still being worked on and adjusted. any input is greatly appreciated. id like to thank those that have helped me along my way. there are those out there that have donated items to me that have proven most invaluable. my +2 mith full plate of wizardry is still without permanent damage, and when i grow out of it the next time i advance level, i will be sure to find a sutable mage to give it to. pay it forward is something i believe in.

in the harder quests, the clerics put alot into keeping me alive and running. i try to contribute as much as i can to the quest, but because of my limited resources and mediocre arsenal, im sometimes more of a burden than i am a viable resource. thats slowly changing ... if your outclassed for the quest and you cant do anything to help out the group ... politly excuse yourself. give reason (i hit him a dozen times and did zero damage ... i think its time for me to go.) and they should be more than understanding, and possibly thankful. if your contributing, but still sucking up the clerics resources ... then be prepared to offer compensation. chances are they wont ask for it, but passing an elixer of pnemonic enhacer (or two) usually makes them feel a little bit better about holding your hand for the last hour. lol.

but what it all comes down to is work. its work running around turning in all your strings of prayer beads to goldscuttle, and then stuff to turner in the market place. go back and hit the lower level quests that you can do by yourself at higher levels. may not be worth xp, but you can still collect 100pp from all the junk. and your racking up favor in the meantime.

at forth level you should be running the halls of shan to kor, the cloven jaw scourage (blockade and caverns) and tangleroot over and over till you know then like the back of your hand.

fifth ... the four npc quests in the hammersmith inn and the catacombs. possibly stormcleave depending on your roll.

sixth thru eight ... deleras, gwylans, and stormcleave.

these seem to be the common group quests that youll want to be very familier with so you can run with the big dogs at speed in the future. make sure you team up with experianced user who know your a newbie, and when you cant find a group, hit some of the lower level stuff for favor and coppers. i just brought in about 4000pp running stormcleave for conquer. and that was without a thief. when you get to ninth or tenth level, youll need to start looking for favor with house k, so that you get the extra bank space to hold all your loot. (you should have already got the extra backpack space from the coin lords)

hope this helps. :) any input or further detail is more than welcome. :cool:

now ... GET TO WORK!!! lol

[Manko-ALE]

when i first started , i would ask guildies what their favorite loot runs were..i would also look on youtube for the loot runs , zoid had quite a few.. lowbie loot runs include running durks and searching for muckbanes . then selling them on ah...

in my opinion , a max intel wizard is really great to figur eout how to do loot runs , charm does wonders for looting.

i remember ages ago when looting giant caves was a staple of getting money for gear and pots...

make a wf wizard (to keep costs down ) and master charming stuff.

get in , hit the chests and get out...

i've been having a wonderfull time with my cleric looting all kinds of stuff. I never realized how incredibly powerful max emp sup pot blade barriers can be..

[dopey69]

what I did wen i first started is roll a group of little ones ,which ever ones you like to run, and run them all up to 4 and lets face it you can do that in a day ez. after you have 8 toons up to that lvl 3,4,5, you start rolling them through stk farming that ff ring and that is all you run every time you are on for ....mmm well depends if you are lucky or not . ne ways you will pull them just keep switching toons over and over sell the dang rings get you money :) always roll a few rogues cause they are always needed in stk and all these looters i never did keep just rebirth other looters etc won't take long . I have always found that some toons are luckier than others so by rebirthing and running multiples you will find your loot #@*%^# lol todate i have sold 12 rings and all my toons are wearing one and still have extras in the bank hehe still go in there with capped toons good luck and good looting

[unionyes]

A big part of D+D is to make you go do quests to get things. Some (dating myself here) may recall the first edition AD+D Dungeon Masters Guide, which pointed out that your players costs needed to keep escalating as they leveled up, to provide incentive to take on that difficult challenge for the end reward and the loot.

You should always be out questing to get that item you need, or plat, or whatever. The game would be very boring if you had all of everything you needed. That can happen (sort of) when you are capped and have ransacked every high level quest, etc, but then there are mods to give you a new objective. Otherwise people would be sitting on these forums showing off screenshots of their uber capped toons with six of everything in the game that they could possibly need. And why would they go questing? When the last mod came out people started to hit quests for ingredients, flagging, that kind of thing.

Have you ever noticed that the end rewards for a lot of quests are ironic in nature? Go through STK, drop down through all those floor holes, and pull a featherfalling ring, which you needed before but somehow found a way to do without. Go through Deleras, and pull a Ghost Touch Heavy Mace of Lesser Undead Bane as an end reward. Would have been nice to get that in advance, don't ya think?

My lowbies are always broke. My fighters are spending every stinking plat they get on healing pots. My wizzie spends everything he gets on better power items, wands, scrolls, etc. My other toons also are broke for a long time, buying weapons, armor, wands, pots, etc. But I buy those things so I can take on tougher challenges, so I can get more items and plat, so I can better equip myself, so I can take on tougher challenges....do you see where this is going?

And thats the way it should be.

[SweetTooth]

I am still a newb, but have been playing hard since I started a couple weeks ago. Don't underestimate the advice on haggle and CHA.

My dwarf fighter/ pally was selling loot at the Rusty Nail when his Eagle's Splendor spell wore off. I actually watched all the prices on the items I was looking at JUMP. I had never actually noticed before.

It was like my dwarf had come in all gruff, started shopping and then saw something the proprietor was selling that he liked...and smiled; with broken, filthy teeth and breath of garlic and old ham. The shopkeep's face turned green, and all the prices went up just to get rid of this disgusting old Dwarf.

True story...