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I keep seeing the wop rapiers going up for trade/sale....I'm curious to know if this is due to some inside information? or a reaction to the insufferable amount of posts and complaining about the power of the weapon? On a side note i think they should make all of the armor in the game look exactly the same and not allow such character customization that we currently have....I mean we should all have to make elves....the options available currently kinda make it unfair for everyone in case someone chose a human or something....In addition i think firewall and haste should be only spell allowed for casters, because we don't want to make one caster better than another...feelings might get hurt, and we don't want that....also an a.c. cap should be in effect regardless of gear...heaven forbid one character have something better than another? That's ludicrous....
p.s. to those without a radar for sarcasm....the above was sarcasm..:D ...but im serious wbout the wop question???? thanks obmi
I think everyone who ******* and moans about WOPs being too powerful should just play the game and shut up - it's a freaking video game for crying out loud. I've been on the game forever and haven't pulled any, but guess what, I play for the sake of playing. Does everyone even realize they are spending time and energy complaining about something that doesn't even really exist. Life is too short. HAVE FUN!!!
Peace!!! :p
Thriand
01-09-2009, 08:13 PM
I keep seeing the wop rapiers going up for trade/sale....I'm curious to know if this is due to some inside information? or a reaction to the insufferable amount of posts and complaining about the power of the weapon? On a side note i think they should make all of the armor in the game look exactly the same and not allow such character customization that we currently have....I mean we should all have to make elves....the options available currently kinda make it unfair for everyone in case someone chose a human or something....In addition i think firewall and haste should be only spell allowed for casters, because we don't want to make one caster better than another...feelings might get hurt, and we don't want that....also an a.c. cap should be in effect regardless of gear...heaven forbid one character have something better than another? That's ludicrous....
p.s. to those without a radar for sarcasm....the above was sarcasm..:D ...but im serious wbout the wop question???? thanks obmi
Now you're talking!!! Life would be a lot nicer if I didn't have to do so much work to be as good as everyone else. I mean it only makes sense that the guy who plays 2 hours a week should have the exact same stuff as the guy who plays 40.
Read the title I thought you were looking for some same sex company........
Not that I came here looking but more to laugh at your "LFM" ;)
its ok buddy...honesty with yourself is the first step my brotha! :D
Fenrisulven6
01-10-2009, 12:10 AM
Life would be a lot nicer if I didn't have to do so much work to be as good as everyone else. I mean it only makes sense that the guy who plays 2 hours a week should have the exact same stuff as the guy who plays 40.
How does that make sense? You're saying that to "be as good" they need to grind 40 hours a week to "have the exact same stuff".
Justin1341
01-10-2009, 01:43 AM
I'm curious to know if this is due to some inside information?
Yes. It is.
we are such a unified community...it would be much appreciated...besides isn't inside information illegal? people go to jail in real life for that :)
I've got a fever, and the only prescription is more cowbell!!!!!!!!!!!
:cool: Ya I have to admit that if I was just browsing through the forums and saw the subject heading I would think "did DDO start a dating line recently?" Hmmm, lucky for me that's not the case. LOL
Justin1341
01-10-2009, 04:31 AM
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168429
Strakeln
01-10-2009, 01:03 PM
I keep seeing the wop rapiers going up for trade/sale....I'm curious to know if this is due to some inside information?Squeaky wheels get the grease. There are so many calls for the nerfing of wop/twf AC/monk AC/etc that I'd be shocked to not see at least some of those wishes fulfilled.
Hence, if you have spare WoPs, now may be the time to sell them, before the market crashes.
Riggs
01-10-2009, 01:14 PM
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=168429
The linked thread was closed, so I will add a reply here.
It would fit past actions to see wops nurfed in a way that would annoy players, even if there is no game rule reason to do so.
Players who have traded 10 large ingredients and +2 tomes say for a wop rapier would be very irate if wops suddenly didnt work anymore. it is not about 'who gets the kill count', but 'I spent a huge amount of time and effort to get the best weapon, and its the best because it works 10x faster at killing stuff than other weapons'.
As Buzzsaw said in that thread, one reason wops are so valuable is because other stat damagers do not work as they are supposed to, any creature with a 0 str/dex should not be able to take any actions, including attacking you with its still high +50 to hit and +40 damage.
The other reason is that Mod 6 onward, monsters have stupidly high hit points. Like really stupid. 3000 hit point giants immune to 90% of spells and effects - but not wops, so you can spend 60 seconds killing each individual giant with dps, or 5-10 seconds with wops. Killing faster = taking less damage in return, and on quests with a timer (SoS say), killing faster has a real purpose other than critics complaining just about kill counts.
In the Tor, you could go stat damaging, or straight up damage, and both worked fine. The Tor giants didnt have 3000-5000 hit points, so a greataxe or dwarf axes kill them just as fast as wops. This has not been the case in any new content since Mod 4, and hence wops are king. Vale devils can be dps down without a huge problem, but shroud devils have way more hit points, like 5x more, and dps is basically a waste of time, when you kill faster waiting for vorpals on 20s, or wop damage, then dps balance has been broken.
The fire elementals in Sos have at least 5000 hit points, maybe more. Trying to dps down a 5000 hp monster with dr and no crit damage is going to take a really long time, when there is 3 of them attacking you, and spamming 250 point delayed blast fireballs every 1-2 seconds. So unless your an evasion build with puncturing weapons - you die long before the elementals do, period.
Even if the other threads rumor is false, most people are expecting some kind of nurf, most likely mod 9 monsters will be immune to stat damaging weapons, where Sorjek's buff now lists a 'partial resistance' to stat damaging weapons.
It would be unwise to rely on wops for level 20 with the way Turbine tends to handle things, but at the same time it would be good to make a lot of posts encouraging Turbine to find a more balanced resolution than simply nurfing wops and leaving monsters running around with 4 digit hit points. (Raid bosses are one thing, 'trash mobs' are another entirely).
So probably dont sell your wops yet, but dont expect them to work exactly as well in mod 9 as they do now. Most things have been nurfed at some point, I am sure something is coming to nurf wops too.
I have no problem with critters being resistant to wop in future mods, at least they would still work in current stuff, and peeps wouldn't be so irate about trying to attain one, It would be silly to think wop would work for every trash mob out there, but to change effects of weapon because of squeaky wheels, doesn't bode well for my long term confidence in turbine, but i digress, I will wait to see what happens next mod..until then....WOP for the win!!!
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