Sorc Capstone - Dev Please!!!!

[Cyrion]

How about the Devs throwing us a Sorc bone today and telling us the Capstone for them!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
With sugar on top!!!!!

[Mindspat]

I hope casters will be usefull in raid boss fights outside of Haste/GH/Displacement bots.

[Original]

After seeing the Cleric capstone I dont even want to see sorcerer capstone... But when I do I probally will take 2 levels of rogue because the capstone will mean nothing.
Sorry usually I am not so negative but on this subject... I am.

[Desteria]

After seeing the Cleric capstone I dont even want to see sorcerer capstone... But when I do I probally will take 2 levels of rogue because the capstone will mean nothing.
Sorry usually I am not so negative but on this subject... I am.

OR it could be like the wizzard capstone and really make you think about splashing.....

[Pfamily]

Ya, not sure if I'm thrilled with a Sorc cap that follows the Wiz cap info we have now.

Also, if the spells progression list continues with the existing pattern, sorcs will get 2 lvl 9 spells at lvl 19 and no additional spell at lvl 20; so the cap should be something special to avoid rampant splashing...

[PurdueDave]

Ya, not sure if I'm thrilled with a Sorc cap that follows the Wiz cap info we have now.

Also, if the spells progression list continues with the existing pattern, sorcs will get 2 lvl 9 spells at lvl 19 and no additional spell at lvl 20; so the cap should be something special to avoid rampant splashing...

Sorceror should get 1 more 9th level spell at 19th and another 1 more at 20th.

[Cyrion]

Today is Wednesday!!! It has been free preview so far each Wednesday!!!! Can we please get the Sorc Capstone??????????????????????????????? Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

[Fennario]

I too am curious. My guess is that it will be something that mirrors the wizzy capstone. Something like this:

Masters of the Universe
Prereqs: Level 20 Sorcerer
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: Grants +2 Charisma and 150 spellpoints.

They have the power! :)

[Pyromaniac]

We can only hope it will be as good as the wizard capstone. Wizards are a stronger class than sorcs (as only a wizard has soloed Vision that I've seen).
So hopefully that will be recognized and Sorcerers will get a stronger capstone than wizards to compensate.

[bobbryan2]

I too am curious. My guess is that it will be something that mirrors the wizzy capstone. Something like this:

Masters of the Universe
Prereqs: Level 20 Sorcerer
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: Grants +2 Charisma and 150 spellpoints.

They have the power! :)

150 SP wouldn't be as fun as -1 to all metamagics. :D

Maybe -2 to empower and maximize... but leave the others in the wizards court.

[Mindspat]

We can only hope it will be as good as the wizard capstone. Wizards are a stronger class than sorcs (as only a wizard has soloed Vision that I've seen).
So hopefully that will be recognized and Sorcerers will get a stronger capstone than wizards to compensate.

Would you be kind enough to elaborate how this was done? ;)

[Angelus_dead]

Would you be kind enough to elaborate how this was done? ;)
Solo vision? Well, step one is to buy approximately 500 mana potions. Step three is to stand there shield blocking and binking Suulomades with Chain Lightning and Acid Slush until he dies. Obviously repairing yourself is a key priority as well...

(I think that quad-enervate and Suggestioning some barbazu would help too, but the guy who did it didn't seem to do that)

[QuintonReece]

We can only hope it will be as good as the wizard capstone. Wizards are a stronger class than sorcs (as only a wizard has soloed Vision that I've seen).
So hopefully that will be recognized and Sorcerers will get a stronger capstone than wizards to compensate.

Wizards a stronger class??? Explain that. Your logic of who has accomplished a quest by soloing it dosent speak for the strength of a class, just the ability(or not) and resources a player may have at their disposal. How can a wizard be stronger when they dont have as many sp or faster casting ability? I'll grant you they are more versatile but cant agree that they are stronger.

[nbhs275]

saying that 19-20 wont be worthwhile on a sorcerer is a very very very silly to say. Especially when they will be giving you 245 more base SP, nevermind the additional from a high CHA and MC would lower the SP item bonus(2 lvls bringing you down from 100% to 90, and losing 30 SP from a shroud III item)

So about 350(nearly 600 counting 17&18) more SP, more high level spells, +2 to spell pen, +2 to caster level, and 4 minute haste..20 sorc is looking very worthwhile.

[Arleon]

How about it doubles your spellpoints.

Yeah it's not "balanced," but I can dream can't I!

[Pyromaniac]

Wizards a stronger class??? Explain that.

Here's my logic. There have been a huge number of threads saying Sorcs are better than Wizards. If we all agree on that, then we know the Sorc capstone will stink, as Sorcs will get hit with the nerf bat. So therefore, Wizards > Sorcs, and hopefully we'll get a capstone at least as good as the Wizard one is.

[Oxvon]

I wouldn't mind a capstone that raises our spell pen. and/or +# stacking to save on our spells or something like that.

[gfunk]

Sorcerer: Enforce Natural order
Prereqs: Level 20 Sorcerer
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: You subjegate one lvl 20 wizard to follow you and carry your boots. In addition, you gain access to all 100 of their spell points (providing the wizard in question had both mental toughness feats).

[Desteria]

Heck I'd take the wiz cape stone AS IS right now on my soc woohoo +2 int ;).... TBH if the make the sorc oen sya nuek flavored somethign liek +2 cha +10 damage.. I;d realyl liek to see them open BOTH cape stoens upto wiz and sorcs SOOO wizard coudl take the nuke oen and get 2 cha woohoo is they wanted and a sorc thats a heavy Metamagic person could take the Wiz one getting 2 int and the discount.

[JoeyJoJoJr]

please for the love of god and all that is holy and awesome in this world...
sorc preview pleeeeeeeeease
it's killing me!!!

[Elsiah]

Sorcerer: Enforce Natural order
Prereqs: Level 20 Sorcerer
Cost: 2 AP
Benefit: You subjegate one lvl 20 wizard to follow you and carry your boots. In addition, you gain access to all 100 of their spell points (providing the wizard in question had both mental toughness feats).

It should be noted here that the game locks this ability from being used if the sorc in question has blown through 25% of his 6billion sp buffing himself, throwing out several FODs to try and defeat spell pen, rebuffed himself after getting splattered all over the wall because all HIS feats were metamagic and he couldn't get the HP from toughness.

Odd how i always see wizards with SP left over, while most of the time i hear the sorc saying "hey can you rez me so i can kill this stuff that just killed me?"

[Desteria]

It should be noted here that the game locks this ability from being used if the sorc in question has blown through 25% of his 6billion sp buffing himself, throwing out several FODs to try and defeat spell pen, rebuffed himself after getting splattered all over the wall because all HIS feats were metamagic and he couldn't get the HP from toughness.

Odd how i always see wizards with SP left over, while most of the time i hear the sorc saying "hey can you rez me so i can kill this stuff that just killed me?"

Sorcs don;t die we just get our bueaty rest....

And thats beacuse the wizard never had the SP to cast any thign to get hte baddies attention, and if he tryed to cast a FOd etc the melle got there before he finished castign and kille dit alreayd ;)

[nbhs275]

It should be noted here that the game locks this ability from being used if the sorc in question has blown through 25% of his 6billion sp buffing himself, throwing out several FODs to try and defeat spell pen, rebuffed himself after getting splattered all over the wall because all HIS feats were metamagic and he couldn't get the HP from toughness.

Odd how i always see wizards with SP left over, while most of the time i hear the sorc saying "hey can you rez me so i can kill this stuff that just killed me?"

so because the sorcs you run with are ****** compared to the wizzies, you think sorcs are gimped? Give a moron either class and its the same result.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

New Sorc Capstone: Expend all your SP in one massive burst that instantly kills all monsters in the dungeon. Then Auto DV yourself to Haste party. :D

[Oxvon]

Also wiz always have sp left because when they go to FOD something we(sorcs) already FOD'd that guy and are PK'n the next guy!!! :D