I just want to be nice

[MJNOR1]

I was on Argo Saturday night and Sunday night and I spent approximately 30 minutes each trying to do a good deed.....and couldn't get it done!

Specifically, I pulled a Wand of Cure Light Wounds while farming Festival coins with my Level 11 Warforged Cleric, since my guy is level 11 and the majority of the groups I join require more healing than that would provides I felt it wasn't practical and therefore was a waste of inventory space. Additionally the amount of gold I would get if sold was nominal so I felt that someone else could get more value from it's use.

I went and searched for Rangers and Paladins between levels 1-3 and sent a tell to one of them asking if I could offer a gesture of goodwill, no one would respond! No exaggeration I probably sent 15-20 tells and could not get a response....I finally just mailed it to someone saying it was a gift from the gods.

Why won't people respond and is it inappropriate for me to do that?

[Blahish]

I was on Argo Saturday night and Sunday night and I spent approximately 30 minutes each trying to do a good deed.....and couldn't get it done!

Specifically, I pulled a Wand of Cure Light Wounds while farming Festival coins with my Level 11 Warforged Cleric, since my guy is level 11 and the majority of the groups I join require more healing than that would provides I felt it wasn't practical and therefore was a waste of inventory space. Additionally the amount of gold I would get if sold was nominal so I felt that someone else could get more value from it's use.

I went and searched for Rangers and Paladins between levels 1-3 and sent a tell to one of them asking if I could offer a gesture of goodwill, no one would respond! No exaggeration I probably sent 15-20 tells and could not get a response....I finally just mailed it to someone saying it was a gift from the gods.

Why won't people respond and is it inappropriate for me to do that?

Maybe trial accounts? They can't answer to tells :(. Its good to see people trying to do nice deeds for new players!!

[Impaqt]

I was on Argo Saturday night and Sunday night and I spent approximately 30 minutes each trying to do a good deed.....and couldn't get it done!

Specifically, I pulled a Wand of Cure Light Wounds while farming Festival coins with my Level 11 Warforged Cleric, since my guy is level 11 and the majority of the groups I join require more healing than that would provides I felt it wasn't practical and therefore was a waste of inventory space. Additionally the amount of gold I would get if sold was nominal so I felt that someone else could get more value from it's use.

I went and searched for Rangers and Paladins between levels 1-3 and sent a tell to one of them asking if I could offer a gesture of goodwill, no one would respond! No exaggeration I probably sent 15-20 tells and could not get a response....I finally just mailed it to someone saying it was a gift from the gods.

Why won't people respond and is it inappropriate for me to do that?

If they are Trial Players, That CANT respond.....

If they are Alts, Most likely they have no need for your gesture.

When I got extra Lowbie stuff I just go to Korthos and hand stuff out.

[Do'Urden]

LOL

Similar story...I was standing at the mailbox one day mailing ingredients and some guy types over General Chat (something like):

'I just won my auction! +3 Adamantine Tower Shield! WOOT!'

I look and the guy is a level 6 Human fighter. Go into my bank and find a +4 Mithral Tower Shield RR: Human that I'm probably never going to use. Send a tell to the guy telling him I have a gift for him. He gets all snarky like I'm trying to scam him or something. I try to convince him a couple times that I'm just trying to be nice. He quits responding to my (very polite) tells.

Weird but true story lol. So much for trying to be a nice guy :cool:

[Beherit_Baphomar]

If they are Trial Players, That CANT respond.....

If they are Alts, Most likely they have no need for your gesture.

When I got extra Lowbie stuff I just go to Korthos and hand stuff out.

Yup. Most likely they are trial, and if they are not trial then they already have 200k plat on that guy.

[MJNOR1]

Hmmmmmm! Interesting - I didn't know trial accounts could not respond.

[Rowanheal]

I had an alt I would mail stuff to and then go out to the newbie area and hand stuff out to lowbies...

It became increasingly clear that with our hatred of plat and spam people we might have thrown the baby out with the water...

No one liked the stuff anymore... no one would take it... and some of the tells I have gotten when I offer things have just been downright rude...

I know a lot of people are alts re-rolling so they have little interest...but rudeness isn't needed...

Oh wait this is argo... sorry my bad LOL

Anyways... now I just take my healer somewhere and heal all the little n00blettes poisons and curses and heal them in taverns...

*sigh*

See ya in Stormreach,

-R

[Anarkius]

Some people just don't believe that there are those of us that are trying to 'be nice' in game. I was on one of my alts on Argo and kept getting guild invites (which I wil admit I ignored mostly) - then another person opened a trade window with me trying to give me a +1 Great Sword (a nice gesture)...but I declined informing him that the toon was just for storage.

It's hard to tell what some people think sometimes, but sometimes it is hard to just be nice to people. And then others seem to be less concerned about 'sharing the wealth'; and more concerned about themselves. I assure you that not all gestures of good faith go unnoticed, but unfortunately some do.

As stated already - trial accounts cannot reply to or send tells, so you may want to watch general chat for responses. The down side to this is that if you send a tell to a person not in the same area you are in, you may never know if they respond. :(

Don't lose faith in the population as a whole just because some people cannot or do not accept your 'gifts' though. You never know, the person you help to day, may be the cleric that resurrects you tomorrow! :D

[Lorichie]

I simply mail it to a random person i think can best use it. (It being whatever i have on me at the time that isnt worth my time running around trying to sell.) I send a tell telling them i did so and if they dont want it, leave it and itll come back to me, or sell it i didnt care.

More often than not they send a tell back happier than a pig in snot like i gave them their first vorpal.

Regardless of how many snarky replies i may get back, one of those "lottery winner" responses makes it worthwhile.

R

[dragonofsteel2]

Please do not mail me no cure light wands, I will just destroy them. If trying to be nice maybe should ask them what they need not offer what u think they want p. I prob. would sent tell saying no thx, but if busy that request would just got past by without thought. Great trying to be nice, but if these peoples alts, they might not want a cure light wand. What might seem nice thing to do might just be annoying to the others. I know I have stack cure series potions and that wand would just sit there. Instead sending tells might try General chat give away, let them replay to that. It not hard to give away stuff run around the harbor gave four +1 tomes away ))).

[LazarusPossum]

I've gotten to the point where I have to simply give up those nice toys I've gotten along the way, so I'm handing them out to newbies in the harbor, too. Reminds me of the day I recieved 5k plat in a spontaneous gesture from some nice veteran.

I sort of like the trickle-down effect. It makes me realize that someone was already there struggling like me.

[GorumT]

I'm on Sarlona server, any of you wanna give my toons gear, just hit me up, lol.

Good on you all for trying to help other players out. :)

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Please do not mail me no cure light wands

Your characters name is Gondore, right?
Did I spell that right? G-O-N-D-O-R-E?

[alchilito]

LOL

Similar story...I was standing at the mailbox one day mailing ingredients and some guy types over General Chat (something like):

'I just won my auction! +3 Adamantine Tower Shield! WOOT!'

I look and the guy is a level 6 Human fighter. Go into my bank and find a +4 Mithral Tower Shield RR: Human that I'm probably never going to use. Send a tell to the guy telling him I have a gift for him. He gets all snarky like I'm trying to scam him or something. I try to convince him a couple times that I'm just trying to be nice. He quits responding to my (very polite) tells.

Weird but true story lol. So much for trying to be a nice guy :cool:


Nice guys finish last Yahmon. /reroll

:D

[Do'Urden]

Your characters name is Gondore, right?
Did I spell that right? G-O-N-D-O-R-E?

Yes and I believe he actually meant do not EVER EVER EVER send him mail with individual Cure Light Wounds pots attached.

:cool:

[Do'Urden]

Nice guys finish last Yahmon. /reroll

:D

I'm starting to come around to that conclusion :(

[Andora]

To be nice anonymously, and give someone a trill, place the item on the auction house for next to nothing. That way you are helping someone and giving them the thrill of finding a bargain. Then again I am a girl so maybe the thrill would not be as big for a guy. :D

[Do'Urden]

To be nice anonymously, and give someone a trill, place the item on the auction house for next to nothing. That way you are helping someone and giving them the thrill of finding a bargain. Then again I am a girl so maybe the thrill would not be as big for a guy. :D

99% of the time that would result in someone who doesn't really need it buying it and relisting it for WAY more plat. Or maybe I'm just a HUGE cynic :cool:

[Andora]

99% of the time that would result in someone who doesn't really need it buying it and relisting it for WAY more plat. Or maybe I'm just a HUGE cynic :cool:


Maybe, but who would pay huge amounts for a Cure Light Wounds Wand? Before Giant Hold loot runs (luv you Isys) I was always grateful for an item placed with a fair price.

[slaymen]

99% of the time that would result in someone who doesn't really need it buying it and relisting it for WAY more plat. Or maybe I'm just a HUGE cynic :cool:


Thats exactly what would happen. I know people who do that now for normaly prices items on the ah.

[CrimsonEagle]

I like to donate in quests myself. You can really tell if someone is new without a word being said.

[~Bandage]

I'll look for un-guilded lowbies, and just run up and open the trade window with the free loot. I've never had anything but a positive reply after it was accepted.

I also keep a stack of important newbie equipment, like underwater action and feather fall, on my lowbies to hand out as needed during a quest.

[Borror0]

Weird but true story lol. So much for trying to be a nice guy :cool:
Why didn't you mail it?

[Dummmmy]

did your message say " hi im so and so and i have this wand if you want and one like it every month for the low price of 55us a month "?

[Dirac]

Every now and then when starting a new character, someone will come up and offer me some item, clw etc. I twink fairly heavily and don't even remotely need any of this. I do the same thing every time. I take it and send a grateful tell with a ! and a :) I'll then pass it, or sell it, or use it as soon as I can to get rid of it. They are trying to do a good thing and I want them to leave with the feeling that their gesture is appreciated. There isn't a quick and kind way to say no that doesn't hurt peoples' feelings.

[VirieSquichie]

A better place than Korthos is the area by the Dinghy in the Harbor, where people fresh off the boat are dumped.

I've sent a tell to someone standing in front of me saying I want to give 'em some lowbie stuff, and when they reply I open the trade window and lay it on 'em. When people aren't whipping by with an obvious destination in mind, they're most likely new. The ones who are moving the second they zone in and make a beeline to the mailbox likely don't need help. :)

I've also had two of my clerics get random acts of gear/supplies donation when they were just level 1 or 2, and to this day one of 'em still has hundreds of components from that. The wands went fast, though.

[asdfss]

Turbine should consider either having trial account auto-reply "Hello I am trial player nice to meet you I can't reply!" or mark them as trial players.

The latter is perhaps a bad idea as some aholes will shun them. But more likely those aholes will be effectively invisible and the decent amount of helpful people will be even more helpful.

The old MUD I used to play had a Newbie channel that was universal by default and considered OOC. All level 6s and below were on it and older players could join if they wanted. But were by default un-channeled from it at level 7.

Community is a major concern for many people who evaluate a game. So this stuff is pretty important.

[transtemporal]

I dunno OP.

Handing out gh/competency songs at the house D broker, healing people at taverns, giving the cleric major pots/heal scrolls/plat when they've been using a lot of resources or assigning items to other party members who can use them better than you is considerate.

The first two are cool because they might not be able to do it themselves and it gets them where they're going quicker. The second two are cool because it shows goodwill towards other people in the party.

Giving random people in the street items unsolicited is a bit like a well-meaning friend giving you advice you didn't ask for. Its a nice gesture (and you should accept it gracefully)... but a little weird.

Just my 2c.

[GorumT]

Giving random people in the street items unsolicited is a bit like a well-meaning friend giving you advice you didn't ask for. Its a nice gesture (and you should accept it gracefully)... but a little weird.



Nothing like modern jaded society rearing itself once more. Ya know, in my day, if someone helped you even a little, you appreciated it! If someone stopped and tossed ya a nickle, you didn't feel "Weird" because it wasn't a buck! Ya thanked them and were thankful to the gods that someone actualy acknowledged yer existance.

/rant off

[Mithran]

Probably more efficient to have simply handed it off.

They wouldn't have been able to thank you, but if they accepted the trade, they'd have been grateful. I can remember my first day (Officially, Day One) and someone in Wavecrest opened a trade window and gave me an Underwater Action item. I probably vendored it, knowing I'd never need to go underwater in this game.

[GorumT]

Probably more efficient to have simply handed it off.

They wouldn't have been able to thank you, but if they accepted the trade, they'd have been grateful. I can remember my first day (Officially, Day One) and someone in Wavecrest opened a trade window and gave me an Underwater Action item. I probably vendored it, knowing I'd never need to go underwater in this game.

Cool sig, you read the Art of War entirely or just what the buisness world prints in the quarterlies?