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aresm16
12-20-2008, 11:50 PM
would like some help deciding starting stats for dex ftr. Probably want to go with WF or Dwarf for survivability. I have 32 point build and was looking at TWF all the way, rapiers, kensai III. So far here is what i was thinking base.

STR 10
DEX 18
CON 18
INT 12 (will add +1 tome to make 13, will pick up combat expertise at lvl 2)
WIS 8
CHA 6

Please advise..

Gorstag
12-20-2008, 11:54 PM
Do what you wish, but with the end-game content as it is, I strongly suggest a strength based toon.

aresm16
12-21-2008, 12:08 AM
I have a STR based ftr already

Hobgoblin
12-21-2008, 12:15 AM
you can keep it dex based but you will still want some str. maybe human, drop dex by 1 increase str and get bonus feats

Lithic
12-21-2008, 12:20 AM
Even on a dex fighter (ESPECIALLY on a dex fighter) you will want power attack, or at least the option to switch in power attack later. Don't start with less than 14 str (or 13 if you are really really miserly with your points). 18con on a high AC dex fighter is a waste, drop to 16 (or even 14) and put those points in strength.

Hobgoblin
12-21-2008, 12:28 AM
try this

hewman

14 str 6 item +1 tome + 3 ap = 24
17 dex 6 item + 4 levels + 1 human = 28
15 con +6 item +1 human = 22
13 int
base rest

Noctus
12-21-2008, 06:49 AM
As race i choose elf. Goes nicely with DEX-based combat, has racial boni to rapiers, and the fluff is good, too. The lower HP through -2 CON is neglectable, as you will most propably take 2 levels of racial and the full fighter thoughness chain.

Also as a fighter you will have enough feats to spend them on the least and then the lesser drangonmark of shadow. The later gives you a Displacement-Ability which is very handy even on a high-AC character.


Attribute distribution proposal:
Strength 15
Dexterity 18 ......(al level ups here)
Constitution 14
Intelligence 12
Wisdom 8
Charisma 8


Even a DEX-based character should never neglect strengh. Effect-weapons are all nice and fine, but when it comes to red or purple named guys, where basic DPS is really important, you need a bit more than twig-arms. and Power Attack.

maddmatt70
12-21-2008, 09:57 AM
would like some help deciding starting stats for dex ftr. Probably want to go with WF or Dwarf for survivability. I have 32 point build and was looking at TWF all the way, rapiers, kensai III. So far here is what i was thinking base.

STR 10
DEX 18
CON 18
INT 12 (will add +1 tome to make 13, will pick up combat expertise at lvl 2)
WIS 8
CHA 6

Please advise..

Why dex fighter and not strength based? If you were splashing monk or perhaps rogue, but otherwise just don't get it..

tc12
12-21-2008, 11:35 AM
As race i choose elf. Goes nicely with DEX-based combat, has racial boni to rapiers, and the fluff is good, too. The lower HP through -2 CON is neglectable, as you will most propably take 2 levels of racial and the full fighter toughness chain.


I like Elf for this too. But I'd wait for the news on the Fighter capstone, and if it's not great I'd plan 18 F / 2 Ro. Evasion helps offset the lower Elf HP, and would allow you UMD. For that you could drop Dex down one to 17, since you'll get it back from Ro DEX I enhancement for the same final score. 11 CHA and a +1 tome and you'll end up with decent UMD situationally (swapping on say a +6 cha item and the Cartouche). If you don't care for this guy to have UMD, then go 2 Monk. Evasion, slightly better saves, and nets you one extra feat.

Either way I find it hard to imagine Evasion won't exceed the usefulness of whatever the Fighter capstone is, so I can't see how an 18/2 option won't be better than pure Fighter on this or most other non-tank builds.

TC

aresm16
12-21-2008, 04:04 PM
im not opposed to splashing 2 lvls