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Kistilan
12-09-2008, 02:12 PM
Hey Barbmasher gurus!

I need some help. I'm going to get a WF evasion-barb ready with 6 levels fighter by level 20 so it's ready for Kensai.

That said, I need some info on mithril body or adamantine body or no body at all on a warforged. If I go adamantine, I'll lose my evasion, correct, so then my rogue levels are more than ever useless and I might as well take 1 or 2 bard for self-healing or something.

I'm looking at all the feats and it looks like my AC is going to be next to nothing ANYWAY, so should I go adamantine and focus on damage reduction? I'll be utilizing two-handed weapons as well, so no shield for sword and board.

I could tank it up when I need to because I plan on going all the way up the mobility feat line to spring attack and whirlwind.

Also, what starting dex based on your body type? Anyone think I need to skip evasion and go for adamantine body type for extra damage reduction?

The levelling plan currently is 1 rogue, 1 fighter, 4 barb, 1 fighter, 6 barb, 1 rogue and then probably another barbarian. I think I want 12 levels of barbarian for the improved power rage enhancement. Any naysayers to that? If I take 11 levels I can take a third level in rogue for uncanny dodge and some extra backstab and reflex save action.

EDIT: One last thing, if I scrap evasion all together, pick Adamantine Body Type & low Dex it (10 start, maybe 8) I can hit 14 Barb 6 Fighter for Kensai and get Improved Crit Rage 2 at level 14 Barb.

Questions? Comments? Concerns? Ideas? Thanks in advance!

MrCow
12-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Adamantine Body may serve you well in the first few levels, but its uses die as you go up.


Evasion is a useful feat. Its not worth losing for 6 AC on a build that doesn't focus heavily on AC.
Adamantine Body's DR does not stack with Barbarian DR. The 12 levels of Barbarian net you DR 4/- and that can climb up an extra 2 points through enhancements. Adamantine Body is DR 2/Adamantine, DR 5/Adamantine with the full enhancement line.
Adamantine Body costs a feat. Its likely you can find at least something to help you do more damage by not taking it.

maddmatt70
12-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Why Kensai 1 it sucks as does frenzied berserker 1. Go pure barb for the extra 6 barbarian levels for the longer rages and everything else it brings for a barbarian.

Kistilan
12-09-2008, 02:44 PM
Adamantine Body may serve you well in the first few levels, but its uses die as you go up.


Evasion is a useful feat. Its not worth losing for 6 AC on a build that doesn't focus heavily on AC.
Adamantine Body's DR does not stack with Barbarian DR. The 12 levels of Barbarian net you DR 4/- and that can climb up an extra 2 points through enhancements. Adamantine Body is DR 2/Adamantine, DR 5/Adamantine with the full enhancement line.
Adamantine Body costs a feat. Its likely you can find at least something to help you do more damage by not taking it.


Perfect! Evasion it is. Mithril body type. 12 Dex or 14 Dex? I'll have +2 dex mod allowed by my 6 level fighter. I'm not sure if warforged are granted any racial such as dwarves do for armor mastery.

Second question, 11 Barb or 12 Barb? I could get some extra rogue uncanny dodge for a third level rogue. I really gain nothing by gaining another level in fighter. The extra barbarian level opens up barbarian power rage enhancement to the next level. Thoughts on this?


Why Kensai 1 it sucks as does frenzied berserker 1. Go pure barb for the extra 6 barbarian levels for the longer rages and everything else it brings for a barbarian.

I'm doing something with the grandfathering that won't be possible after Mod9. 11 or 12 Barb, 6 Fighter and essentially get both worlds of goodness. Kensai 1 doesn't suck when you're planning 2-handed fighter. Eladrin confirmed the glancing blows from barbarian and kensai will stack.