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Aranticus
11-17-2008, 09:22 PM
was there a stealth nerf on the raiments?

Hordo
11-17-2008, 09:29 PM
I think so, yes.

Shima-ra
11-17-2008, 09:44 PM
I would call it more of a fix.
Did you not expect this when you saw good loot drop every run?

Aranticus
11-17-2008, 09:50 PM
I would call it more of a fix.
Did you not expect this when you saw good loot drop every run?

expected it, but would be appreciated if we knew about it.... dev communication, we need more of that

Shaamis
11-17-2008, 10:00 PM
good.

now we can stop with the: "i can't believe the devs let this drop so much" flaming, and begin the: "unfair!! I didnt get to loot the rainments like everyone else did" chant.

It's gonna be a huge f-fest between the people that ran the skelly run to death, for their rainments, and others who were trying to get their monks/dex ftrs/casters in there for their chance at the super fast and profitable loot run.

There is an easy solution; make all icy rainments no longer bind on acquire, and all of the people that took advantage of the easy loot drop days can give their icy rainments to those who really want them, but didnt have a chance. That way the "haves" and the "have nots" can get along again.

Until then, be on the lookout for the next sweet loot run. :p

Beherit_Baphomar
11-17-2008, 10:25 PM
Finish these sentences;

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is <blank>?

Awesome, now we can <blank> the entire Subterrane again!

Strakeln
11-17-2008, 10:58 PM
Hordo's solution seems to be the only one that makes sense.

Personally, I'd prefer they leave the drop rate high and unbind it.

Emili
11-18-2008, 10:59 AM
Hmmm, I should have kept the ones which dropped for Sgail a week or so ago, but gave them to the ranger who was ransacked and desparate... Oh well.

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:16 AM
nerfed to what extent? like how badly?

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:19 AM
nerfed to what extent? like how badly?

I believe as in...'this item no longer drops here'....type nerfage.

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:27 AM
I believe as in...'this item no longer drops here'....type nerfage.

meh, oh well

one more reason to not even bother logging in.

KoboldKiller
11-18-2008, 11:27 AM
meh, oh well

one more reason to not even bother logging in.


You trying to tell us something Asp?

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:29 AM
meh, oh well

one more reason to not even bother logging in.

You could always roll up a new character...start the grind again...

Oh god.......I think Im going to throw up just thinking about it.........oh god....

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:31 AM
You trying to tell us something Asp?

vast and mysterious™

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:33 AM
vast and mysterious™

Top Secret™ dude, Top Secret™

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:34 AM
You could always roll up a new character...start the grind again...

Oh god.......I think Im going to throw up just thinking about it.........oh god....

no more character options appeal to me. DT armor is a flop. bleh.

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:34 AM
Top Secret™ dude, Top Secret™

i think they should change their slogan to "epic fail"

i don't really blame the DEV's though.

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:35 AM
i think they should change their slogan to "epic fail"™

Mmmhmmm.

KoboldKiller
11-18-2008, 11:35 AM
i think they should change their slogan to "epic fail"

i don't really blame the DEV's though.


Ouch.

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:38 AM
i don't really blame the DEV's though.

Care to elaborate?™

Shaamis
11-18-2008, 11:38 AM
Finish these sentences;

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is <blank>?

Awesome, now we can <blank> the entire Subterrane again!

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is deceptive

Awesome, now we can redesign the entire Subterrane again!

AC is deceptive, because we all know what our AC is, but we dont know what their to-hit is.

When I have a 54 mildly buffed AC, and can get hit regularily in a lvl 4 (on elite) quest (Garrison's missing pack) then you can take AC and go ....WT......

In teh quests defense, I was onlu taking 5 pts a hit though.

I say they should redesign the Subteranne.

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:40 AM
The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is deceptive

Awesome, now we can redesign the entire Subterrane again!

Ohhhh so close.

The correct answers were;

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is useless.

And;

Awesome, now we can ignore the entire Subterrane again!

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:42 AM
Ouch.

the skelly loot runs were one of the few good things about this mod. sure, the new quests are cool, but...

i could throw a rock across half these "explorer" areas.

DT armor is a waste of time grind fest, at least for me.

hirelings -> fail

Korthos Island bugginess and grouping restrictions -> fail

Yeah, I know I'm jaded. Doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 11:45 AM
Care to elaborate?™

by devs i mean the actual developers. guys hacking out code.

i blame both poor QA and low support.

Shaamis
11-18-2008, 11:46 AM
Ohhhh so close.

The correct answers were;

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is useless.

And;

Awesome, now we can ignore the entire Subterrane again!

I'm a softie at heart, I will always give the Devs the benefit of the doubt, but I wish they will vindicate me sooner, rather than later :P

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 11:48 AM
by devs i mean the actual developers. guys hacking out code.

i blame both poor QA and low support.

Yupyup. The Dev's, I believe, actually do a **** fine job. Its kinda like making sweet tater pie outta cow ****.....

wamjratl1
11-18-2008, 11:53 AM
Finish these sentences;

The Dev's didnt want everyone having Rainments because AC is delicious with ketchup?

Awesome, now we can sleep through the entire Subterrane again!

I think I got it!

Emili
11-18-2008, 11:59 AM
One consolation is I need not suffer the big skele's dispair ever again... he dislikes shugar and spice too so am told.

póg a chaitheamh

alchilito
11-18-2008, 12:15 PM
meh, oh well

one more reason to not even bother logging in.

get out ! :(

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 12:18 PM
get out ! :(

you're not the boss of me

Lateralus
11-18-2008, 12:19 PM
so does it still drop in gop?

maddmatt70
11-18-2008, 12:32 PM
So you have not seen it drop for a while. That just means the drop rate has been changed. I sincerely doubt they have taken it out of the skelly loot tables. Of course if it is now a 1 in a 1000 chance they might as well have taken it out. The only thing with slightly better odds would be DT armor and I say slightly.

My guidlies feel exactly the same way about DT really. It just isn't that exciting and to get what you really want is an awful grind for only slight improvement to no improvement at current game. On my battle bard I in effect got 10 hp, destruction on my armor, and saved a slot. He is the one who could benefit the most of all my characters and the only one who was even remotely close to getting what she wants. My other bard benefits less (just frees up a slot really for god knows what will come next mod) and I have not even come remotely close to getting anything useful with much more attempts at it then my battle bard. My cleric would have arguable some improvement but I would swap between DT and the blue robes, my ranger who doesn't care that much about ac perhaps some improvement, but not really worth the grind for freeing up a slot for again god knows what next mod. I wouldn't mind getting the tharnes 3rd on a set of armor and then putting it in the bank in case the 4th ever comes out and is special. The rest of my characters DT is not useful and this includes my two new characters 14 paladin 2 monk (currently 11 paladin 2 monk) and 9 rogue 6 ranger 1 monk (5 rogue 5 ranger 1 monk) which I have been leveling up this mod.

Thrudh
11-18-2008, 12:42 PM
My barbarian/fighter and battle-cleric can both use DT armor, so I'm slowly working on getting them there.. Although if my barbarian/fighter didn't already have a Mineral II cloak, he would have been just fine with the VoD plate

My ranger and my cleric/monk could also have found DT robes useful... Whoops.. they both got the free Icy Raiment before the skeleton got nerfed.. so they have no need to grind for slightly better armor.

I still can't believe they put out an armor crafting mod, and at the same time, gave away for free the Icy Raiments which are almost as good as the best crafted robes that would probably take 3-4 months to grind for.

Basically, anyone who wears robes has very little incentive to do the new quests...

I think the left hand didn't know what the right hand was doing...

Gol
11-18-2008, 12:46 PM
Just proves our favorite motto...

Exploit Early, Exploit Often™

I'm not calling the Skelly / Raiment runs an exploit, but the point remains.

doppleganger
11-18-2008, 12:50 PM
For all it is worth, it dropped yesterday in the skelly run and it was a Cleric who had it drop. He kindly put it on roll, which I won! :) I was the second to roll out of five who wanted it. That was the most exciting moment of all my DDO playing time, lol!

Now I just need to get that chattering ring and finish my mineral 2!

cdbd3rd
11-18-2008, 12:52 PM
Top Secret™ dude, Top Secret™


I miss that game.... :(

Xithos
11-18-2008, 12:55 PM
I helped folks get the rainments thinking the Giant Skelly Run was going to function like new content since it went mostly unused before. Of course, now that I am bringing up a character that could really use one on a character it has been relegated back to nearly impossible status to get playing casually :) Taking a break until mod 9 is starting to look like a better idea.

Aspenor
11-18-2008, 12:57 PM
For all it is worth, it dropped yesterday in the skelly run and it was a Cleric who had it drop. He kindly put it on roll, which I won! :) I was the second to roll out of five who wanted it. That was the most exciting moment of all my DDO playing time, lol!

Now I just need to get that chattering ring and finish my mineral 2!

gratz. my capped rogue is jealous.

hell, my capped rogue is jealous of my level 13 ranger.

Turren
11-18-2008, 12:58 PM
Xithos pay no mind to this. We ran 7 runs yesterday and 2 dropped. Testified was a happy ranger.

Xithos
11-18-2008, 01:06 PM
Xithos pay no mind to this. We ran 7 runs yesterday and 2 dropped. Testified was a happy ranger.

That's good to know; the Dragon Touched armor isn't doing much for a lot of my guys and Fallout 3 is really fighting for my attention. I'll continue putting the time in playing my new guy as long as the rainment is attainable without superhuman effort :)

Tin_Dragon
11-18-2008, 01:59 PM
Meh, as usual, those with all the time, and all the best things, got to make sure to get that other thing on that other toon. The rest of us get Boinked in the Bung hole for having lives away from DDO.

Its ok, soon, my 6 mos will be up, and Mod 9 better be a FIX KNOWN and ADD CORE fest along with new content or I'm gonna follow some guildies in prepping for Diablo 3 or the "next big thing" That I cant **** all over for not following a pre concieved game system already in place. Huzah!

wamjratl1
11-18-2008, 02:32 PM
Meh, as usual, those with all the time, and all the best things, got to make sure to get that other thing on that other toon. The rest of us get Boinked in the Bung hole for having lives away from DDO.

Its ok, soon, my 6 mos will be up, and Mod 9 better be a FIX KNOWN and ADD CORE fest along with new content or I'm gonna follow some guildies in prepping for Diablo 3 or the "next big thing" That I cant **** all over for not following a pre concieved game system already in place. Huzah!

I certainly fall into the same category as you; "life away from DDO" but don't feel boinked. I got a Sunblade and some decent vendor / AH trash. We'll get our raiments, Tin Dragon! One Day!

query
11-18-2008, 02:43 PM
Is the chest in GoP still dropping Icy?

Is the Skelly still dropping OTHER interesting stuff (like sunblades, flametongues and what not) even if less often?

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 02:49 PM
Is the chest in GoP still dropping Icy?

Is the Skelly still dropping OTHER interesting stuff (like sunblades, flametongues and what not) even if less often?

Nobody knows any more man. Some say its nerfed some say its still dropping I.R...

Who knows any more! *throws up hands*

query
11-18-2008, 03:08 PM
throws up his hands.....we're now on seal 5 of the Apocolypse. There's still time! Repent developers repent!

Nobody knows any more man. Some say its nerfed some say its still dropping I.R...

Who knows any more! *throws up hands*

NXPlasmid
11-18-2008, 04:10 PM
Well I am not sure what you are talking about. My first skellie run on Saturday, or maybe it was Friday, two rainments dropped, one more on the second run, no more after that and of course none for me. Ran it last night about 6 times, didn't see any, but another person got 2 sunblades... It a roll, period. Even if it's a 4% drop rate that's a 4% chance each time, not very high (if that is the correct number) 1 in 25. I don't know statics but I am pretty sure you need to loot that chest MORE THAN 25 times to garantee a 1 in 25 drop.

Beherit_Baphomar
11-18-2008, 04:15 PM
Well I am not sure what you are talking about. My first skellie run on Saturday, or maybe it was Friday, two rainments dropped, one more on the second run, no more after that and of course none for me. Ran it last night about 6 times, didn't see any, but another person got 2 sunblades... It a roll, period. Even if it's a 4% drop rate that's a 4% chance each time, not very high (if that is the correct number) 1 in 25. I don't know statics but I am pretty sure you need to loot that chest MORE THAN 25 times to garantee a 1 in 25 drop.

Sense and realty have no place in this thread......move along.