Exact Directions to Suberrane Skelly Chest using Runes to Determine Entrance

[Big-Dex]

For those interested, we have figured out exactly how to read the RUNES that lead to the skelly chamber and the nice subterrane chest dropping lots of named goodies, to include icy raiments...

There are three entrances, as far as I can tell and accord with the "G" runes on the skelly carving's eyes in these pictures. The skelly carving is found after the first portal on the way to the hound where you have to kill the two spiders.

If the "G" rune is over the skellies' left eye (right if you are lookin' at him - note picture below), then it is the lower room (note left = lower). We will call this Entrance 1. Directions to this entrance are below this picture.

http://www.perz.us/DDO/rightskellyeye.jpg

ENTRANCE 1) Head like you are heading to the hound. In the big room (this room is prior to going through the door to the east entrance portal where beholder and mind flayer are), drop down hard two levels to your left and go underneath where you entered the room to the NE corner of the room. There is a mindflayer there.

If the "G" rune is over the skellies' right eye (left if you are lookin' at him - note picture below), then it is the upper room (further north). Directions to this entrance are below this picture. We will call this Entrance 2.

http://www.perz.us/DDO/leftskellyeye.jpg

ENTRANCE 2) The same directions to the big room as above. Except, instead of dropping down two levels, drop one and stay head N in the center. There is a door there. Go through that door, make a left, go up ramp, make a quick right, drop down and then another quick right and you are there. There will be a small fight and a shrine.

If neither eye has a "G" symbol, then you are facing entrance three, which is easier to recall, regroup and rerun than it is to head all the way to through the east subterrane.

ENTRANCE 3) On the east side, almost to the hermit beholder room.

I hope this helps some of you score some shiney lootz. Have seen 3 icy raiments drop in same chest, so get it while it is hot!

Good luck and good lootz!
~ Dex (Argo)

[ShadowFox1978]

Where is this skellie?




*EDIT: Obviously asking the one that denotes location(IE the one pictured.).

[Big-Dex]

As I say above, it is after the first portal on the way to hound. Right after you go through the that portal, where the two spiders are to the left that have to be killed, the skelly face carving (as pictured) above is right there in front of you.

~ Dex

[kinar]

...and the nice subterrane chest dropping lots of named goodies, to include icy raiments.. so this isn't considered an exploit as it has been rumored to be?

[Lorichie]

so this isn't considered an exploit as it has been rumored to be?

Does not appear to be, in another thread concerning this subject a developer poked his head in couple times to offer "hints". I would suspect that if this was not working as intended, not a peep would have been heard. Thats just my opinion tho.

R

[kinar]

in another thread
link?

[Missing_Minds]

link?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149639

[geoffhanna]

Ummm... it is in the release notes

The Subterrane

The rare encounter with Garamon in the Subterrane may prove much more profitable than before. A number of interesting treasures have been reported.

I am thinking maybe, just maybe, not an exploit :)

[Solmage]

Ummm... it is in the release notes

The Subterrane

The rare encounter with Garamon in the Subterrane may prove much more profitable than before. A number of interesting treasures have been reported.

I am thinking maybe, just maybe, not an exploit :)

They may still have goofed and accidentally linked every single named item into that chest - I am seeing sunblades, low level named items, high level ones, +2 tomes which should only come from raid chests, etc.

Guildie the day before alone pulled 1 icy rainment, +2 tome, sunblade
In 4 runs afterwards yesterday, I saw at least 2 sunblades drop, and another +2 tome.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think they would have added that kind of powerful loot to an encounter that is soloable by a competent caster, doesn't have a 3 day timer, and you can just keep ransacking over and over, all of this in a run that takes roughly 5 minutes to get to (max, sometimes just 2), 1 minute to fight.

But hey, maybe they did intend to bork the loot system for the entire game and make all raids pointless ;)

[Aspenor]

They may still have goofed and accidentally linked every single named item into that chest - I am seeing sunblades, low level named items, high level ones, +2 tomes which should only come from raid chests, etc.

Guildie the day before alone pulled 1 icy rainment, +2 tome, sunblade
In 4 runs afterwards yesterday, I saw at least 2 sunblades drop, and another +2 tome.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think they would have added that kind of powerful loot to an encounter that is soloable by a competent caster, doesn't have a 3 day timer, and you can just keep ransacking over and over, all of this in a run that takes roughly 5 minutes to get to (max, sometimes just 2), 1 minute to fight.

But hey, maybe they did intend to bork the loot system for the entire game and make all raids pointless ;)
Since when should all +2 tomes be from raid chests?

[Arkat]

+2 tomes which should only come from raid chests, etc.



Dude, +2 tomes can come from Vale dungeon quests, Vale End Rewards for completing Vale quests, and from the chests in the outdoorsy parts leading up to the new content quests.

It's been a LONG time since +2 tomes only dropped in Raid chests.

[Lorichie]

In about 12 actual chests (many more runs than that the first day that failed to spawn the skele), i've seen sunblades, maces of smiting, dwarven thrower's, luck blades, icy rainments. I've not seen a tome yet, and not seen any other named item. I'm not saying i dont believe it mind you, but if folks are pulling other named loot, it's looking like really low pull rates.

When this first came to be, i was convinced that it would destroy the economy. I mean, this loot run ten pulls per toon, ten toons per account, why run anything else? Those rare items will not be rare in a week. The low level stuff we wouldnt use anyway at higher levels, only the rainment, which while is more difficult to get from Gop, still can be gotten, and the beholder pops every time and is probably a bit faster. A static group of six, will have the rainment on any toon they need in short order, if they try for it.

We'll make some money, and have a few shinies to play with at lower levels, and mebbe some +2 tomes (which we can get as easy in raids, specially the shroud), but i've changed my opinion and i dont think it'll destroy anything. We already have a bazillion plat and items anyway. This just cause us to swap it around a little, and give us something different to do.

Sorry for the wall of text,

R

[Kintro]

Another way to get a chest every time is by going through the first door, down the skeleton stairs and then left at the end. When you get to the end of that corridor you go right or left depending on where the G is. If it was left you're going to be pass a shrine next to a door. Outside that door is a beholder. If the rune by the beholder points right it's down the bottom, if there is no G it is through the next door and on the right. These three spawns are all close enough together to get one from every attempt.

I think this is a shorter pass than the one posted above.

I've added the route we've been running to Da5h-au's map: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149639

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6844/garamoldu3.th.jpg (http://img507.imageshack.us/my.php?image=garamoldu3.jpg)http://img507.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)

Green lines are the path we take.
Gold Gs are a decision point, left right or straight on depending on position/absence of a G rune.
Gold G with a red line through it is one to ignore.

[smatt]

They may still have goofed and accidentally linked every single named item into that chest - I am seeing sunblades, low level named items, high level ones, +2 tomes which should only come from raid chests, etc.

Guildie the day before alone pulled 1 icy rainment, +2 tome, sunblade
In 4 runs afterwards yesterday, I saw at least 2 sunblades drop, and another +2 tome.

Call me a cynic, but I don't think they would have added that kind of powerful loot to an encounter that is soloable by a competent caster, doesn't have a 3 day timer, and you can just keep ransacking over and over, all of this in a run that takes roughly 5 minutes to get to (max, sometimes just 2), 1 minute to fight.

But hey, maybe they did intend to bork the loot system for the entire game and make all raids pointless ;)

Nope, it's intended Devs have been commenting on it somewhat. With a limited amount of named items dropping. As for the +2 tomes, I've personalyl seen several drop from various rare chests in the Subterean since it came out, nothing odd there at all..... We dont' knwo if the drop rate is higher than it should be or was intended to be, but it's clear that the chest is dropping what they intended it too drop.


Now as far as the directions to the chests, and the clues in the giant runes..... Very nice work jperz, I knew those either had to be to the open portal OR to the Pub..... I wish it were the Pub though ;)


Happy looting!

[Big-Dex]

Another way to get to the two easier chests is by going through the first door, down the skeleton stairs and then left at the end. When you get to the end of that corridor you go right or left depending on where the G is.

I think this is a shorter pass than the one posted above.

Nope. I have run that way. Not shorter...that is why I posted this method ... and it absolutely confirms where the skelly entrance will be. He is always there, it is the entrance to his lair that changes.

~ Dex

[kinar]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149639

Od ccourse this link is all abuot the devs telling you howto get there....has nothing todo with the dungeon dropping all sorts of extremely rare named loot on an extremely elevated basis...

Sure the release notes mention that his loot was changed, but it doesn't mention that they screwed it up (IMO it is a screwup wether it was intended or not).

And lastly, I love how those of you picked out the the one incorrect statement in solmages post. Yes +2 tomes drop elsewhere, but the rest of his post is true...

[kinar]

Nope, it's intended Devs have been commenting on it somewhat... Once again, link please?

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

I've seen +2 tomes from one of the chests in there, not sure if it was the 'raid' chest or the other one.

Garth

[cdbd3rd]

link?


http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149639


once Again, Link Please?

:rolleyes: :p

[Big-Dex]

Once again, link please?
Hey Kinar,

Take a look at the RELEASE NOTES (http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Release_Notes_Module_8_Official), it is right there in black and white under "QUESTS".

It says,


The Subterrane

The rare encounter with Garamon in the Subterrane may prove much more profitable than before. A number of interesting treasures have been reported.

Couple that with these three links from the DEV TRACKER, and there you have it...


http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912201&postcount=3 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912201&postcount=3)
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912398&postcount=8 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912398&postcount=8)
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912371&postcount=80 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912371&postcount=80)

If you don't feel comfortable looking for and looting a chest that the DEVS are throwing hints at us to make it easier to find, that is your perogative, but let those who want to find it be. :D

~ Dex

[tinyelvis]

You can get to all three portals to skelly in first instance of subterr, no need to go east for third case.

As for rares, +2 tomes drop in all subterr chests from time to time. Other than Icy Rainments the only named rares I have seen in this chest are typical random rares.

[YoDKC]

You can get to all three portals to skelly in first instance of subterr, no need to go east for third case.


While there may be "no need" to go east. The "G"s point the direction to the exact portal that he spawns, no guessing required.

[xanvar]

If you really really really want to know what the Devs think just click Dev Tracker and read some of Flimsyfirewood's posts. Pretty obvious that they wanted somone to figure this out. Maybe they will tinker with the loot drops a bit in the chest but the map to the lair seems to be written right there in giant :)

[kinar]

:rolleyes: :p

Don't forget to read the entire context before trying to point out the flaws in others comprehension skills..:rolleyes:



Hey Kinar,

Take a look at the RELEASE NOTES (http://compendium.ddo.com/wiki/Release_Notes_Module_8_Official), it is right there in black and white under "QUESTS".

It says,


The Subterrane

The rare encounter with Garamon in the Subterrane may prove much more profitable than before. A number of interesting treasures have been reported.

Couple that with these three links from the DEV TRACKER, and there you have it...


http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912201&postcount=3 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912201&postcount=3)
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912398&postcount=8 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912398&postcount=8)
http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912371&postcount=80 (http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1912371&postcount=80)

If you don't feel comfortable looking for and looting a chest that the DEVS are throwing hints at us to make it easier to find, that is your perogative, but let those who want to find it be. :D

~ Dex

None of that information actualy says that it is inteneded to have this loot dropping. The links in the dev tracker (at least everyone of them that have been posted in this thread) are about the runes and how they lead to the fight. nothing about the loot.

The release notes indicate that the loot tables were changed. That doesn't mean they didn't screw it up (once again repeating myself here).

I will offer an apology to the OP, his post is about navigating the area. I hijacked it to be about the loot acquired in the area. Slightly off topic.

[Big-Dex]

I will offer an apology to the OP, his post is about navigating the area. I hijacked it to be about the loot acquired in the area. Slightly off topic.

Apology accepted.

As for the exceptional loot in the chest, let me just say that the drop rate might be off and it might get nerfed (that is always a possibility), but the context of the threads that FlimsyFirewood (developer) posted in had to do with the great loot that was dropping and those threads clearly spoke of the quantity of loot dropping also. You have to think that he knew this when he posted his hints about the giant runes telling us how to find it more easily.

Either way, I leave it at this. If you feel it is an exploit, let it be. I believe it is designed as is for a reason and that the loot rate is what it is for the time being. They did a patch of some sorts yesterday and could have easily adjusted the drop rate in that small update (whatever it was). They did not. So, I, like many others will loot it. Frankly, it is a fun little loot run anywho. :D

~ Dex

[Balkas]

My lvl 10 Fighter/Ranger/Monk thanks you for his Icy Raiment :)

[Kintro]

Nope. I have run that way. Not shorter...that is why I posted this method ... and it absolutely confirms where the skelly entrance will be. He is always there, it is the entrance to his lair that changes.

~ Dex

I've modified my post above to include the route to a third location. I'm not sure what you mean by absolutely confirms but we've found the skelly every time with this method and they've all been fairly close together in the central subterane. Are there additional ones in eastern?

EDIT: also added a map to my post above.

[BigBadBarry]

I've modified my post above to include the route to a third location. I'm not sure what you mean by absolutely confirms but we've found the skelly every time with this method and they've all been fairly close together in the central subterane. Are there additional ones in eastern?

EDIT: also added a map to my post above.

Kintro,

The method outlined by the OP, which has been 100% confirmed, takes you straight to the spawn portal...no "checking" of multiple portals...no extra fights...straight there!

Follow the G...find the green portal...fight the skele...loot the chest.

[Kintro]

Kintro,

The method outlined by the OP, which has been 100% confirmed, takes you straight to the spawn portal...no "checking" of multiple portals...no extra fights...straight there!

Follow the G...find the green portal...fight the skele...loot the chest.

You "check" nothing with our route either, follow the Gs, 100% success at all three locations. No recalling and resetting if you think it's in the eastern. Pop one portal .. there he is every time.

[Whippy]

The route kintro has outlined has been used about 40 times this weekend by me alone in running that chest and it has worked every time. There is no checking to see if the rare is there... it is always there... the G's tell you exactly which portal and his route as outlined is the fastest to get there... stop flaming and try it... there is no 'checking required'... if your on ghallanda i will even show you.

[Big-Dex]

Okay... I double checked....

KINTRO's route is solid. However, after some experimenting, I think a combo of my and Kintro's way works better than either of ours individually.

I was mistaken to say that ENTRANCE 3 is on the EAST SIDE (there might be an entrance over there, but not necessary to go there). My ENTRANCE 3 is the first 3 you come to on Kintro's map. When the skellie carving has no "G" on it's face, it is because that was your entrance and you did not need to go to skellie carving.

So, if the first GIANT RUNE (Kintro's slashed out one) tells you to go left, go left and you will find that the entrance is at Kintro's first 3.

If the first GIANT RUNE (Kintro's slashed out one) tells you to go right, follow it. It will take you to the skelly head carving which is where my directions to ENTRANCE 1 & 2 apply.

This avoids a beholder fight and several skelly fights that Kintro's route requires you to engage. Just run past all MOBS you can. Fight only when necessary to open a portal (skellies).

I am trying to confirm this now, so when I do, I will update my opening post with a map like Kintro's. I think between the two of us (and others who helped), we got this bad boy nailed perfectly.

~ Dex

PS - I will be back with a confirmation of this.

[Big-Dex]

Okay... I think I have confirmed it.

I will update my opening post as soon as I can.

~ Dex

[Solmage]

Since when should all +2 tomes be from raid chests?

Whoops, ok, I really messed that one. I meant +3 tomes but they don't drop there so that bit is completely wrong. ANYWAY... what I DID mean to say about it is this: Please show me a quest, raid or otherwise, that even if run on elite, has a drop rate of a +2 tome per 3 runs, and can be completed in 5 minutes.

[BigBadBarry]

You "check" nothing with our route either, follow the Gs, 100% success at all three locations. No recalling and resetting if you think it's in the eastern. Pop one portal .. there he is every time.

Gottya...thought you were checking portals...not G's.

I've caught up...

[Kintro]

Okay... I double checked....

KINTRO's route is solid. However, after some experimenting, I think a combo of my and Kintro's way works better than either of ours individually.

I was mistaken to say that ENTRANCE 3 is on the EAST SIDE (there might be an entrance over there, but not necessary to go there). My ENTRANCE 3 is the first 3 you come to on Kintro's map. When the skellie carving has no "G" on it's face, it is because that was your entrance and you did not need to go to skellie carving.

So, if the first GIANT RUNE (Kintro's slashed out one) tells you to go left, go left and you will find that the entrance is at Kintro's first 3.

If the first GIANT RUNE (Kintro's slashed out one) tells you to go right, follow it. It will take you to the skelly head carving which is where my directions to ENTRANCE 1 & 2 apply.

This avoids a beholder fight and several skelly fights that Kintro's route requires you to engage. Just run past all MOBS you can. Fight only when necessary to open a portal (skellies).

I am trying to confirm this now, so when I do, I will update my opening post with a map like Kintro's. I think between the two of us (and others who helped), we got this bad boy nailed perfectly.

~ Dex

PS - I will be back with a confirmation of this.

The rune I crossed out will also point left when the spawn is in the far north one. I think it only points right when it's going to the middle one because you can take a shorter (maybe quicker?) route via portals? I don't really know as I ignore that one so every run we can run straight around the corner to the left and burn everything that follows at the next T.

[Strykersz]

Yeah, there are 3 spawn points that I've seen, two will be indicated by left(devil halls and skeleton halls) at the first T and one will be indicated by right(mindflayer). This is unfortunate because the devil halls spawn is more easily reached from above the bridge(you don't have to fight the beholder). The best course is probably to head left if you see a left at the first T and then if you get another left, double back and go through the portal(unless your group can easily handle the beholder).

[Krell]

I hope its not just this weekend. I ran it all day until I ransacked and still didn't get the IR.

[tinyelvis]

Please show me a quest, raid or otherwise, that even if run on elite, has a drop rate of a +2 tome per 3 runs, and can be completed in 5 minutes.

Again, +2 tomes can and do drop in any sub chest. The rate is no where near once in 3 runs. I ran the skell to ransack Friday. Neither me or any I was with claimed a tome.

I think Vegas style hysteria has claimed some people. The rate is closer to 1 in 50 or 100.

[Krell]

I used Kintro's map 50+ times this weekend and it seems easier than when I was in groups that took other routes. The beholder fight is easy because it is right after the shrine and you fight it by its self. Just don't buff after the shrine and kill it. Then the portal is either through the door and to the right or down the stairs and to the right, assuming it wasn't the first portal in which case its even faster. We usually cleared the shrine anyways if it was the first portal to be full for the boss. You never have to recall and start over, you always get the right portal, and none of the portals took long to get to. Just wanted to share some additional feedback. I got my Icy Rainment on four characters and helped a lot of people get theirs. As for +2 tomes, I saw them drop for one person in the group maybe once every 12 runs. I'd say they are definitely rare.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Again, +2 tomes can and do drop in any sub chest. The rate is no where near once in 3 runs. I ran the skell to ransack Friday. Neither me or any I was with claimed a tome.

I think Vegas style hysteria has claimed some people. The rate is closer to 1 in 50 or 100.

Ahhh...

That's just because you weren't using diplo on the chests before opening them. :D

[Vengenance]

Has a list been compiled with all of the loot that is dropping from this chest?

I've seen the following loot drop:
Luck Blade
Mace of Smiting
Frostbrand
Flametounge
Icy Rainments
Sun Blade

I've heard other loot is dropping but can't confirm or deny it.

[Tharlak]

Dwarven Thrower

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

bump

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Okay... I think I have confirmed it.

I will update my opening post as soon as I can.

~ Dex

Well? We're waiting..... :D