Everything you need to know about dragontouched armor

[Wezlin]

**Note I have no intention of keeping this thread updated this was just a little project while not many people were running the lich**

Once you've killed our lovely undead friend from the days of Tempest Spine loot runs you will recieve 50 Draconic runes which you can use to start making your armor.

There are 4 types of runes that are used for crafting dragontouched armors, they are draconic, eldritch, tempest, and soverign. You can use the draconic runes to purchase dragontouched armor or any of the other 3 runes which are used for crafting at the three different altars. The sovereign rune drops out of the chest after you defeat sorjek, while the other runes drop from the 3 other quests in reavers refuge. (I'm not entirely sure but it seems like you can only get tempest runes from the White dragon quest and eldritch from the other 2)

All you need to do to craft your armor is follow these simple steps.

Step 1: Talk to the guy at the center of the altars and give him 50 draconic runes and he will give you an option to choose what kind of armor you want. Dragontouched armors give you a bonus to armor for metal armors (i.e. 15 base armor for +5 dragontouched fullplate) or an increase to your max dex bonus for leather armors. Robes and outfits start with armor +6.

Step 2: Once you've chosen the type of armor you want you can now upgrade it on each of the three altars by placing the armor and one of the runes on the alter that shares that particular runes namesake. The effects produced are random and can be replaced by putting the armor back in with another rune, so just keep trying til you find something you like.

So far my guildies and I have found the following attributes on each of the altars. Most attributes seem to come from known shroud items or other named raid loot.

Eldritch: 25% striding, greater resists, stat skills +3, combustion VII, fearsome, greater false life, heavyfort, Resistance +5, Lionheart (procs remove fear), feather falling, Deathblock, Healing amplification 10%

Tempest: Stat +6, Protection +5, Corrosive Salt Guard, Wizadry VI, exceptional stat +1, magma surge guard. efficient metamagic empower healing 2, True Seeing, SR 22,

Soverign: Tharnes Wrath*, Lorriks Champion*, Air Guard, Melodic Guard (chance to dance on hit), Superior Combustion VII, Dodge +3**, Disintegration guard, Destruction, Greater Elemental energy, Smiting, resonance 8, sunder guard, Crippling, Earthguard (procs stoneskin), Greater potency VII, Greater spell pen VIII, +4 insight AC, potency 8, natural armor +4, earthgrab guard

*The attributes from sets are actually part of a 3 part set that includes the 2 pieces from Mod 7 raids and the 3rd part from the soverign tier of dragontouched armor. (Tharnes Wrath gives featherfalling for the 3rd item and Lorriks Champion gives Superior Devotion VIII)
** Dodge +3 currently doesn't stack with the Chattering ring, I assume its because these attributes are derived from previous raid items and it considers this effect and the chattering rings effect the same thing (no different than having on two chattering rings)

[Balkas]

Thanks :).

What different armor types can you choose?

What are all of the Breastplate of Destruction Evasioners going to want to pick? :)

[Wezlin]

Thanks :).

What different armor types can you choose?

What are all of the Breastplate of Destruction Evasioners going to want to pick? :)
I honestly forgot to look carefully past the Fullplate/Robe areas but I don't remember it being too promising, especially since non-mithral breastplates are medium armor and the light armor stuff in there just had too high of a dex and too low of a armor for a Breastplate of Destruction Evasioner to fill out well. I'll check when I get a chance to turn in 50 more runes

[muffinlad]

I am not following this exactly-

Once you've our lovely undead friend from the days of Tempest Spine loot runs you will recieve 50 Draconic runes which you can use to start making your armor.
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Once you have...what? Once you have killed him?


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So, there are four different types of runes, and you use the runes to upgrade the dragon touched Armor you got at the base level.

So, what I am unclear about....if you have armor already, not Dragon Touched, and put that in with a Rune, is it randomly upgraded, or does it have to be the base (much like greensteel) item?

Thanks much,

muffinconfused.

[Balkas]

I am not following this exactly-

Once you've our lovely undead friend from the days of Tempest Spine loot runs you will recieve 50 Draconic runes which you can use to start making your armor.
---------

Once you have...what? Once you have killed him?


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So, there are four different types of runes, and you use the runes to upgrade the dragon touched Armor you got at the base level.

So, what I am unclear about....if you have armor already, not Dragon Touched, and put that in with a Rune, is it randomly upgraded, or does it have to be the base (much like greensteel) item?

Thanks much,

muffinconfused.

Yeah he left out the word "killed" :).

You can only upgrade the dragontouched armor.

[Wezlin]

I am not following this exactly-

Once you've our lovely undead friend from the days of Tempest Spine loot runs you will recieve 50 Draconic runes which you can use to start making your armor.
---------

Once you have...what? Once you have killed him?


----------------------------------------

So, there are four different types of runes, and you use the runes to upgrade the dragon touched Armor you got at the base level.

So, what I am unclear about....if you have armor already, not Dragon Touched, and put that in with a Rune, is it randomly upgraded, or does it have to be the base (much like greensteel) item?

Thanks much,

muffinconfused.

Yes I suck at writing sorry bout that, but it has to be dragontouched

[Tanks]

what's the max dex bonus on the fullplate? is there a mithril fullplate/breastplate to choose from?

[Balkas]

what's the max dex bonus on the fullplate? is there a mithril fullplate/breastplate to choose from?

1) 1. It has base armor 15, so it's the same amount of ac as a +5 Mith FP, but with less dex required.

2) No.

[muffinlad]

Yes I suck at writing sorry bout that, but it has to be dragontouched

No worries, I was just assuming I was missing something.

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As for being Dragontouched....ok, I get it now. I can drop my Dragonscale leathers on my Archer-Ranger and get something modestly useful and get my full dex back...huzzah!

muffinarrow

[Turial]

....
** Dodge +3 currently doesn't stack with the Chattering ring, I assume its because these attributes are derived from previous raid items and it considers this effect and the chattering rings effect the same thing (no different than having on two chattering rings)

Thats not cool.

[ThrasherGT]

Sorry to bug You about this, but can I put 3 runes on the armor (1 from each catagory)?
Or is it just 1 rune?

[Linna]

Here is what we've found out so far in our guild

Eldritch
Striding 20%
Striding 25%
Death Block
Feather Fall
Resist +5
Healing Amplification 10%
Skill +3
Greater Resists
Lionheart
Greater False Life
Improved False Life
Fearsom
Heavy Fortification
Comb VII

Tempest
Wiz VI
True Seeing
Stat's +6
Protection +5
Exceptinal Stat +1
SR 22
Efficient metamagic Empower Healing II

Soverign
Resonance VIII
Smite (smite on mele attacks)
Sunder Guard
Enervasion Guard
Earthgrab Guard
Greater Pot VII
Destruct
Cripling
Tharne's armore (Feather Fall)
Sup Comb VII
Melodic Guard (Chance to dance on Hit)
Magma surge Gurad
Air Guard
Disintigration Guard
Loriks Champion (Sup Dev VIII)

[Balkas]

Does the "Smite" make it so you can smite with any weapon?


Sorry to bug You about this, but can I put 3 runes on the armor (1 from each catagory)?
Or is it just 1 rune?

1 of each.

[Lawst]

here's another for you...
Soverign: Freezing Ice Guard

[query]

or did one race just get shafted?

[Jadeare]

Oh dear, looks like AC evasion tanks just got screwed.

Oh dear lord of the loot, pls make one of the altars have a chance to make armor mithral.

[query]

do Warforged even HAVE armor options?!

You guys can get Mithral later while we have to choose to bolt it on at start.

[Lawst]

or did one race just get shafted?

A Docent is availible for our metaloid companions

[query]

We are made of mostly livewood so wooden or woody is the more pollitically correct....*whispered to* IT DOES?!...For FLESHIES?!....

I have been informed your sex-starved minds find one of the phrases not to be talked about in public so wooden is acceptable.


A Docent is availible for our metaloid companions

[Wezlin]

do Warforged even HAVE armor options?!

You guys can get Mithral later while we have to choose to bolt it on at start.

There is a docent and it gets +2 AC on it. Actually allows for some nice AC potential on a WF now

[Jadeare]

Oh dear, looks like AC evasion tanks just got screwed.

Oh dear lord of the loot, pls make one of the altars have a chance to make armor mithral.

I may have been to hasty here. Wouldnt be the first time.

This is all assuming you want to have evasion:

MBP: 5/5. DT Chain Shirt 5/4

So 1 ac loss for increased number of available item slots. Assuming you put +3 Dodge and +5 Prot on the Armor you save two slots for a net loss of 1 AC.

Not a bad thing i reckon. What say ye?

[Junts]

More comment welcome on what this 'smite' sovreign effect is?

[Nick_RC]

Greater elemental energy 20 hp sovereign not mentioned on top list.

[BlueBadger]

not just that but vs breast plate of destruction say - the 5/4 of the DT chain shirt would with +5 protection on it would be the same AC since you go up one from protection 4->5 and down one on the dex...
with heavy fort on it you could basically have it so that you can avoid having to do a min2 item, and/or avoid the minos....

with the dodge +3 bonus, you free up a ring slot... so maybe tumbleweed now... ends up looking like a pretty nice armor if you ask me... personally i'll probably keep minos and try and get GFL so that I can free up my belt and maybe use the daggertooth belt for the fighter armor mastery type stuff or whatever and then you end up getting your dex back on the armor for even greater AC potential!

this is on my dwarf dps tank ranger14/fighter2

I'm actually really excited for this!

[Angelus_dead]

Thats not cool.
No. The only thing uncool about it is parsimony and the incomplete documentation which prevents players from learning they don't stack by reading the item inspection windows.

As far as game design goes, adding an AC bonus which doesn't stack with Chattering Ring is a great idea, and something they should have done earlier. (In fact, back when Chattering Ring was new, I told them to change it to an Insight AC bonus and then to add other Insight items)

This may help equalize AC for people without Chattering, and heavy-armor characters may benefit from slot compaction.

[Angelus_dead]

There is a docent and it gets +2 AC on it. Actually allows for some nice AC potential on a WF now
Funny thing is that +2 AC on this docent is obsoleting the +1 AC in the Abbot docent, which wasn't part of gameplay for the past year, and now never will be.

[Lithic]

Funny thing is that +2 AC on this docent is obsoleting the +1 AC in the Abbot docent, which wasn't part of gameplay for the past year, and now never will be.

So that docent gives a +9 armour bonus for a non-armoured WF? 2 from comp plating, 5 from enhancement and +2 more on top of that?

[Angelus_dead]

So that docent gives a +9 armour bonus for a non-armoured WF? 2 from comp plating, 5 from enhancement and +2 more on top of that?
Why would it have another +2?

[Lithic]

Why would it have another +2?

What I meant was any normal +5 docent on a composite plated WF (the default one that does not require a feat) is a +7 armour bonus (2 comp plating, +5 enhancment).

The abbot docent is +1 above that, for a total of +8.

From your comment about obsoleting the abbot docent, I took that to mean the dragontouched docent would be a total of +9 (2 comp, +5 enhancemnet, +2 dragontouched).

[Angelus_dead]

From your comment about obsoleting the abbot docent, I took that to mean the dragontouched docent would be a total of +9 (2 comp, +5 enhancemnet, +2 dragontouched).
Yes, the Dragontouched docent increases your body AC by +2, besides giving the usual +5 enhancement AC. The Abbot docents are +5 and increase body AC by +1.

It's simpler to just call them +6 and +7 docents.

[Turial]

No. The only thing uncool about it is parsimony and the incomplete documentation which prevents players from learning they don't stack by reading the item inspection windows.

As far as game design goes, adding an AC bonus which doesn't stack with Chattering Ring is a great idea, and something they should have done earlier. (In fact, back when Chattering Ring was new, I told them to change it to an Insight AC bonus and then to add other Insight items)

This may help equalize AC for people without Chattering, and heavy-armor characters may benefit from slot compaction.

Yes, the lack of description informing us that the 2 dodge bonuses don't stack is the uncool part of it.

Heavy-armor characters may benefit from this but we have no way of knowing that until all the dragon touched armor powers are revealed.

[rimble]

So here's the potential kick in the crotch...did they bother with Dragontouched Shields? I haven't heard any mention of them, so I'm guessing no...

[EazyWeazy]

So here's the potential kick in the crotch...did they bother with Dragontouched Shields? I haven't heard any mention of them, so I'm guessing no...

Ouch...good point. I've not seen/heard anything about shields yet. :(

[lostx]

COuld you post a screen shot of the armor? Does all the full plate look the same?

[Big-Dex]

Yeah... so there is definitely neat options, but what does it look like????

[Vivanto]

As far as game design goes, adding an AC bonus which doesn't stack with Chattering Ring is a great idea, and something they should have done earlier. (In fact, back when Chattering Ring was new, I told them to change it to an Insight AC bonus and then to add other Insight items)

This may help equalize AC for people without Chattering, and heavy-armor characters may benefit from slot compaction.

I disagree, a bit.
For robe wearers its would be a lesser option wether it stacks with chattering or not, since we got the raiment already. The main reason to use the +3 dodge upgrade on armor would be for plate users so they can cope with the raiment and bring them back a bit. Sure its cool it frees item slot but dosent adress the balance issue the raiment introduced on dex vs armor users in the first place.

[Kintro]

So are we seeing the random effects are duplicates of effects on previous raid loot? Looking forward to an armour with Greater Arcane Lore, Transform Kinetic Energy and Greater Spell Pen 6 for my battlecleric!

[moorewr]

So, I'm unclear on this bit.. I'm pulling lots of runes in the explorer area.. but that's not enough, I need to kill Sorjek to make items, or just kill him to get the runes for upgrades?

[Turial]

So, I'm unclear on this bit.. I'm pulling lots of runes in the explorer area.. but that's not enough, I need to kill Sorjek to make items, or just kill him to get the runes for upgrades?

Dragon runes allow you to get dragon touched armor once you have killed Sorjek once.

Eldrich and tempest runes come from the 3 pre quests in one form or another. Sovreign runes only come from killing Sorjek.

[Linna]

Does the "Smite" make it so you can smite with any weapon?



1 of each.

From what we gather based on the description it does. The cleric in our group got that on her armor not sure if she tested or still has it on her armor.

[SteeleTrueheart]

So I take it no one has seen any combo effects? Similar to tier2 or tier 3 weapon effects?

While this looks alright (no waste just put another rune on the altar to get a new effect), it seems ... well... boring. No real recipes to find.

No shields.... I thought shields were mentioned long ago as being supposed to be put in. Will search my quotes.

Now if only I could find a group that was running something besides the subterrane...

EDIT: From a Tell Tolero thread in April:


Question 1
Other than custom made equip-able treasure items (weapons, armor/robes, shields, accessories) what other things would you like to produce through crafting?

[Draccus]

Now I'm confused.

Last night, a bunch of guildies were running around in the Orchard and the Desert looking for some special gems. They said these gems were for armor crafting but I don't see anything in the crafting instructions that mentions these gems.

Are the gems in the higher level slayer areas for something else?

[Aranel12]

If you look at the screen shot on some armors already made u see the saying if u had something to power it it will awaken These gems will be the key for unlocking its true armor. The quest is where do u put it? What device the eld one maybe? Or maybe when u collect 6 gems you talk to the guy thar (i believe) he might give you something as a reward.

Also maybe that the gems have a differnet power say one gem does spearblock (example but something powerful) I mean these gems are from a dragon so it has to be powerful.

[Timjc86]

I think you need the gems (6 gems, all are exclusive so you can only have 1 of each) to be able to get to Sorjek.

[lostx]

The 6 gems are a turn in to open the 4th explorer area. I don't know if they have any other use.

[DelScorcho]

I think you need the gems (6 gems, all are exclusive so you can only have 1 of each) to be able to get to Sorjek.

Once you get the 6 gems, you get access to a new explorer area which has the Sorjek mission in it. However, you won't be able to access the mission unless you have completed the three new area quests.

[ArkoHighStar]

So I take it no one has seen any combo effects? Similar to tier2 or tier 3 weapon effects?

While this looks alright (no waste just put another rune on the altar to get a new effect), it seems ... well... boring. No real recipes to find.

No shields.... I thought shields were mentioned long ago as being supposed to be put in. Will search my quotes.

Now if only I could find a group that was running something besides the subterrane...

EDIT: From a Tell Tolero thread in April:

that was realting to true crafting which at one time was a major focus in mod 8 but was dumped for hirelings probably, it has no timeframe currently

[Renegade66]

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[juniorpfactors]

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99.9% sure that is the case..... gring of all grinds:eek:


I think its time to take a break from DDO, you guys enjoy

jrp

[Runehammer]

I know the armor itself is bound but do the ingredents to upgrade the armor "the ones you use to get the special abilities"bind?

[Gol]

Can anybody confirm/post the list of armor types available in Dragontouched form?

[Nyvn]

Question can armor have more than one effect from each alter? Or is it one from each?

[Capstern]

one effect from each altar

[Junts]

MOds I've now seen:

Eldritch: 10% healing Amp, int skills excep bonus 3, lionheart

Tempest: excep str 1, corrosive salt guard

sovreign: Greater Spell Penetration VIII (yes)

[Desteria]

sovreign: Greater Spell Penetration VIII (yes)

WOOOHOOOOOO

ok now of my 6 characters I actuly have a reason to do the new stuff on more then one of them (the one being my Full plate fighter).... now my sorc adn cleric want to make armor, my cleric is going to miss her 5 DR though and wicked nice look of the stone meld armor.

Now if we can juts find some nice caster efects form other tiers... Fearsom i'll do I'm sure, and i guess +6 cha works nice free up a ring !!

[Strykersz]

Has anyone actually seen magma surge proc off of one of these? Tested my docent in pvp for 400+ swings without seeing a single proc so...

edit: Tested it in STK for another several hundred and still nothing. Looks broken.

[brshelton]

TIER 3- Healing Amp 20%

[dylusional17]

A Docent is availible for our metaloid companions

im still waiting for the new turbo charger to increase my warforges horsepower

[lostx]

Edited. Sorry had Eldritch and Tempest flip-flopped. They are correct now.

just upgraded my robe.

Eldritch gave +5 resists
Tempest gave spell pen 8.
Sovereign gave potency 8.


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[lostx]

My brother jazzy just got freezing ice guard from sovereign upgrade.

[Arjen]

So this whole process is just random?

so making a robe with resist 5, protection 5 and dodge 3 looks to be quite the grind then...

[brshelton]

First Set Complete!

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[Omega2K]

After beating Sorjek, here's what I got:

Eldritch: Improved False Life
*Rerolled*
Eldritch: Fearsome

Tempest: +6 CON

Sovereign: Greater Combustion VII

On a side note, I was able to Bind & Attune my new Docent and add +1 Alchemal (Dodge) Armor bonus.



*** UPDATE ***

Ran Sorjek again today, same toon, and got the following:

Eldritch: Greater Lightning Resist, Greater False Life (two times), Greater Sonic Resist (two times)

Sovereign: Devotion VIII (only 20% to Cure spells)

[nbhs275]

There is a docent and it gets +2 AC on it. Actually allows for some nice AC potential on a WF now

considering that a WF monk would get +9 armor bonus and +2 dodge(chaosguard) I would say so.

[Galacticus]

ADD Radiance Guard to Sovereign

[Mavnimo]

healing amplification 20%- sovereign
glaciation 8- tempest

[Hakushi]

Here's what I got from the Sovereign upgrade: +4 Natural Armor Bonus.

[Ranmaru2]

Are you able to re-enchant an item to get what you want or are you stuck finding another armor and then getting another room and praying for another miracle?

[Shima-ra]

Just put it in the slot machine and roll the dice.
If you notice your item hasn't changed, its because you managed to get the same effect twice in a row.

[Isssssa]

Just crafted an earthen guard that casts a lvl 7 stoneskin every couple times i get hit.

[Desteria]

Just crafted an earthen guard that casts a lvl 7 stoneskin every couple times i get hit.

Thats kinda neat actuyl but what level of rune was it that produced it.

[Turial]

First Set Complete!


What does the vestment look like? If you don't mind posting a SS.

[Calozz78]

Confirmed

here's another for you...
Soverign: Freezing Ice Guard

[Dorren]

Does the +4 natural AC stack with the chattering ring and +4 insight bonus from GS? If so, that makes it a much better choice them grinding for the icy rainments.

[ArkoHighStar]

Does the +4 natural AC stack with the chattering ring and +4 insight bonus from GS? If so, that makes it a much better choice them grinding for the icy rainments.

yes but it will not stack with barkskin from a ranger, in my opinion the insight bonus to AC is the nicest as it currently allows you to stack chattering ring and the alchemical bonus on the armor. If they change it so that the dodge bonuses stack again then the dodge bonus, stacked with a chattering ring, alchemical bonus and the insight bonus from GS or the Hound set will be a nice combo

[wemery73]

anyone got a pic of a wf wearing a Dragontouched Docent :D

[sf2000]

on 1st try...got tharn wrath :)...im done for tier 3!

[maddmatt70]

healing amplification 20%- sovereign
glaciation 8- tempest

I got improved glaciation 8 - sovereign..

[edana]

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[Solmage]

Is someone keeping an updated list with all the effects? If so, could you point me to it? I am pretty sure these have already come up, but just in case:

outfit:
tier1: greater false life
tier2: true seeing
tier3: devotion viii

PS: If this is 'the' thread, it would help immensely if the first post would get edited as we add more stuff...

[Ganidel]

Is someone keeping an updated list with all the effects? If so, could you point me to it? I am pretty sure these have already come up, but just in case:

outfit:
tier1: greater false life
tier2: true seeing
tier3: devotion viii

PS: If this is 'the' thread, it would help immensely if the first post would get edited as we add more stuff...

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=162707

Some might not be on there as I havent been able to verify them.

[Jadeare]

This is written on the description of a fully Full Plate that edana posted just before.

This plate armor is etched with several ancient draconic runes that appear to be dormant. Perhaps untold powers could be awakened if a power source could be found.

Is there another step we are missing?

[Omega2K]

OK so at one point I had three different stacks of Eldritch Runes in my Collectibles Bag: two stacks of 2 and a stack of 1... I did not put it all together then but while trying my luck I rolled two Greater Lightning Resist, two Greater Sonic Resist, and one Greater Fire Resist... I thought nothing of it at the time... Now I think that each Rune is predestined to become a certain modification, you just cannot tell by reading its description.

Then I went to trade in 120 Draconic Runes for a Sovereign Rune and low and behold I was not given one, I was given a window from which to choose from 10 seemingly identical Sovereign Runes... So I picked the very bottom one on the list and I got Potency 8. Blah! But anyway, my theory is that the order in which the Sovereign Runes appear on that list may be fixed so if I turn in another 120 Draconid Runes and select the very bottom Rune again I bet I come up with Potency 8 again... So that may mean that it is actually possible to figure the list order out and select the Sovereign Runes you actually want to craft with...

So we need to test this theory... I'll keep collecting more Draconic Runes and post here what I find out... If any of you buy some, please let us know which Rune you selected from the top down and what it was.

Thanks!

[Jadeare]

Thanks for the info

[Auran82]

Then I went to trade in 120 Draconic Runes for a Sovereign Rune and low and behold I was not given one, I was given a window from which to choose from 10 seemingly identical Sovereign Runes... So I picked the very bottom one on the list and I got Potency 8. Blah! But anyway, my theory is that the order in which the Sovereign Runes appear on that list may be fixed so if I turn in another 120 Draconid Runes and select the very bottom Rune again I bet I come up with Potency 8 again... So that may mean that it is actually possible to figure the list order out and select the Sovereign Runes you actually want to craft with...

So we need to test this theory... I'll keep collecting more Draconic Runes and post here what I find out... If any of you buy some, please let us know which Rune you selected from the top down and what it was.

Thanks!

That theory was tested in a thread a few down and proven to be false I believe.

[rimble]

This is written on the description of a fully Full Plate that edana posted just before.

This plate armor is etched with several ancient draconic runes that appear to be dormant. Perhaps untold powers could be awakened if a power source could be found.

Is there another step we are missing?

Some additional reward available at 20 Completions a la Shroud maybe? Though it's not a Raid, right? So who knows.

[Junts]

The 3 kinds of runes are the power sources and their descriptions clearly say so


Note to consumers: Melodic guard is a chance to proc otto's resistable dance on hit. It blows utterly, as you can imagine (lots of blue hexagons going off around you though).

Earthgrab and air guards are available on the same teir. Melodic blows :\

[Ganak]

Question on the Tharnes Wrath and Lorriks Champion tier 3 upgrades:

If you have just 1 other Tharnes Wrath or Lorriks Champion item, does it upgrade to the Set of Two bonus?

For example,

I have Thranes goggles and do not have Thranes bracers on my rogue and ranger. If I get the tier 3 armor Tharnes Wrath bonus without the bracers, do I get the bonus of Ghost Touch weapons and 20% reduced hate?

I hope I am making sense lol. Thx!

[kruggar]

u make sense but i didnt tested it..

can someone test this?

[Thriand]

Question on the Tharnes Wrath and Lorriks Champion tier 3 upgrades:

If you have just 1 other Tharnes Wrath or Lorriks Champion item, does it upgrade to the Set of Two bonus?

For example,

I have Thranes goggles and do not have Thranes bracers on my rogue and ranger. If I get the tier 3 armor Tharnes Wrath bonus without the bracers, do I get the bonus of Ghost Touch weapons and 20% reduced hate?

I hope I am making sense lol. Thx!

yes you only need 2 items

[Renegade66]

I have Spell Pen VIII and Earthen guard on my outfit. Looks like SP8 is available as a second tier too.

[Lewcipher]

I have Spell Pen VIII and Earthen guard on my outfit. Looks like SP8 is available as a second tier too.

Ren do mind putting a screenie of that up? Was thinking that if it exists...looks like I'll be making a robe/outfit

[DelScorcho]

Haven't seen it posted here yet, the armors are non-exclusive. So you can get a full plate and switch to something lighter for evasion. The Robes are armored, so you can't use in conjunction with armored bracers.

I think someone previously posted healing amplification for sovereign. I got that for tempest.

[Renegade66]

Ren do mind putting a screenie of that up? Was thinking that if it exists...looks like I'll be making a robe/outfit

Here you go. I think the Spell Pen VIII just needs to be moved to tier 2. The Earthen Guard procs around 5% for 60 or 70 points of stoneskin. I didn't test to get exact numbers. I may just keep this as is for my Cleric.

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll263/Renegade3738/ScreenShot00010.jpg

[Junts]

Ren do mind putting a screenie of that up? Was thinking that if it exists...looks like I'll be making a robe/outfit

I have had greater sp 8 as a tier 3 mod, now rerolled on my paladin.
Many tiers have duplicate effects of asccending levels (tier 3 greater/sup comb 7, gfl or ifl on tier 1, etc)

[Murderface]

no defiance proc for a dt docent

[Vivanto]

Question on the Tharnes Wrath and Lorriks Champion tier 3 upgrades:

If you have just 1 other Tharnes Wrath or Lorriks Champion item, does it upgrade to the Set of Two bonus?

For example,

I have Thranes goggles and do not have Thranes bracers on my rogue and ranger. If I get the tier 3 armor Tharnes Wrath bonus without the bracers, do I get the bonus of Ghost Touch weapons and 20% reduced hate?

I hope I am making sense lol. Thx!

The description of the sets mention # of set items not the specific items of the set, so I would assume it is irrelevant which items you have, just that you have either 2 or 3 pieces of the set.

[Turial]

Has anyone seen a tier 3 Leviks upgrade on the DT armors?

[Dexxaan]

Since RL and helping peeps get their Gems has been keeping me from running 6 Man Sorjek Quest...I must ask.

After u have a set of Armor with whatever attributes and say you want to replace the Sovereign Tier....do u get a chance to retain the old attribute if u dislike the chosen one from the list or is it simply replaced regardless and like it or not?

[Renegade66]

....do u get a chance to retain the old attribute if u dislike the chosen one from the list or is it simply replaced regardless and like it or not?

Nope, you take your chances when you replace what you have.

[DelScorcho]

Since RL and helping peeps get their Gems has been keeping me from running 6 Man Sorjek Quest...I must ask.

After u have a set of Armor with whatever attributes and say you want to replace the Sovereign Tier....do u get a chance to retain the old attribute if u dislike the chosen one from the list or is it simply replaced regardless and like it or not?

Nope, you don't know what the attribute on the list is until you place it in the device and write it on your armor. So you replace at your peril. I had a decent effect on my tempest (20% healing) but I replaced seeking exceptional strength 1. Now, I've been alternating between Int 6 and Wisdom 6 on my Tempest Hybrid for my last several attempts.

[Dexxaan]

Thanks for the response guys.

I need a RL-Bane Maul and get my darned 3 quests knocked out. :mad:

[mmogamer]

ADD Radiance Guard to Sovereign

proc rate?

[Ganidel]

proc rate?

Pretty sure its 25% like the weapon, seen somone that got hit alot blinding like crazy.

[irishsilk]

You can also use your armour in the eldritch device and give it the +1 alchemical bonus to AC

Current Armour

+22 AC (+15, +1 dex, +5 protection, +1 alchemical)
+6 Str
+ 25% striding

[mmogamer]

That theory was tested in a thread a few down and proven to be false I believe.

What thread, post link? Please if you are stating something like that, or writing a book.. Reference the source people :(

[Draclaud]

I didn't see it listed as a Tempest Upgrade but I have Crushing Wave Guard as a Tempest Upgrade

[Gryphton]

I got earthgrab guard on my 3rd tier :D

[etelan]

Has anyone seen a tier 3 Leviks upgrade on the DT armors?

Yes, it's +5 insight and +30% hate.

[liamfrancais]

Just wondering for a my ranger what the base ac would be for the robes. It looks like from the description it should be +11, +6 armor bonus +5 armor enhancement same with the outfit.

[Demonfire]

this post is still usefull and i just dont want it to be flushed in a stupid purge.. thanx

[cozenage]

One thing I am not clear on. You mentioned higher tier armor upgrades, Tharnes Wrath and Lorriks Champion in the Soveriegn rune line.

Are those dragon touched armor that drop from these raids? Or are they items to upgrade your dragontouched armor already crafted? If they are upgrades, what are the names of the runes are whatever you need to loot to use on your dragontouched item

[moorewr]

One thing I am not clear on. You mentioned higher tier armor upgrades, Tharnes Wrath and Lorriks Champion in the Soveriegn rune line.

Are those dragon touched armor that drop from these raids? Or are they items to upgrade your dragontouched armor already crafted? If they are upgrades, what are the names of the runes are whatever you need to loot to use on your dragontouched item

These are sets of items from the Hound and Vision of Destruction raids. Matching effects that enhance the item set are among the possible Soveriegn rune attributes.

[MysteryNotes]

Finally found this thread!
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Awesome thread *bookmarks*