Unarmed Two weapon fighting?

[Silverpoint]

I tested this on the Risia server and it seemed to work but It doesn't look like it is working on the other servers. I want to know if anyone else can confirm that it is working or not. Also does two weapon defense work?

[hu-flung-pu]

I tested this on the Risia server and it seemed to work but It doesn't look like it is working on the other servers. I want to know if anyone else can confirm that it is working or not. Also does two weapon defense work?

It's working, I'm registering three hits instead of two at the low levels.

[Epox]

I thought it was working on my lvl 4 monk last night. On his second attack, a second damage number appears where there was not one there before.

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[arcsonist]

scored a few hits on top of each other think the timing is off on the animation but only tried it on one mob need further testing! glad they added speed to wind stance with haste now it stacks poor ogres have no chance while they rage up!

[Arkat]

nevermind. Reading FTW.

[Dracolich]

My 16 monk is getting all his GTWF hits it would seem. Stun something and it dies about 3x faster + then before. Have not looked at the combat log. I think I should have what 10 attacks per sequence.

[Thoon]

This change did make it into Mod 8, but got missed in the release notes.

[Silverpoint]

I talked to my buddy and he was telling me that his monk unarmed doesn't get the two weapon defense bonus.

[rimble]

I talked to my buddy and he was telling me that his monk unarmed doesn't get the two weapon defense bonus.

They stated that 'secondary' Two-Weapon Feats wouldn't work while TWFing unarmed: Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Blocking, etc. Also, Tempest and similar Enhancements won't work with fists.

[Silverpoint]

Thank you for that I was unaware I usally don't read the forms. I'd rather just ask someone I'm very lazy.

[Capstern]

I took my monk out into the Hold last night and was slaughtering mobs at a fun and silly rate

Now that I dont need Kamas for DPS - the damage numbers were night and I was seeing 10 hits...bummed the animation is only "5 swings" but I will take the numbers...

stun...crit central mob dies...next mob quivering palm with a DC of 31 - dies...
beat up mob kill...then stun kill...quivering

WOOOOHOOOOO

Nija death machine!!!

[Capstern]

They stated that 'secondary' Two-Weapon Feats wouldn't work while TWFing unarmed: Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Blocking, etc. Also, Tempest and similar Enhancements won't work with fists.

sad but I can live with it since really you cant clock a sword with your hand
Mythbusters proved it ;)

[Canadarox]

They stated that 'secondary' Two-Weapon Feats wouldn't work while TWFing unarmed: Two-Weapon Defense, Two-Weapon Blocking, etc. Also, Tempest and similar Enhancements won't work with fists.


So does this also mean that a Tempest Kama Monk is no longer feasable ? I thought they said something about allowng Tempest to stack (somewhat) with Wind Stance. Did this go the way of the Do DO for Mod 8 ?

[Silverpoint]

I hope you can do a tempest monk with kama's cause that is what I'm working on right now. I almost have enough ranger lvls.

[Gadget2775]

The original statement was that TWF sub feats and Tempest AC wouldn't work with Handwraps...

Testing with my Tempest Monk so far shows...

+1 AC while Dual Wielding Kama's vs. Hand-wraps or single Kama. This means the AC bonus from Tempest is either bugged or gone. Two-Weapon Defense still functions as expected. **EDIT** Looks like still bugged to continue providing +2 AC at all times...See next post **/EDIT**

Completed attack animations per 60 seconds (Might not be as precise as counting individual hits, but should be close). Air-Stance turned on w/BaB 13, haste not used. **NOTE** Not rounding up for partial animations **/NOTE**

Hand-wraps
30, 30, 30...Avg 30 Completed animations (None completed even the first strike of 31st animation prior to 0 mark)

Dual Kama's
28, 28, 28...Avg 28 Completed animations (partial of 29th observed each time, but no more than 1st strike)

Single Kama
27, 27, 27...Avg 27 Completed animations (None completed even the first strike of the 28th animation prior to 0 mark)


Conclusions...
Monk Unarmed TWF is receiving the 10% speed boost from Tempest.

Because the Devs didn't create a new "Unarmed TWF" animation it strikes faster than other Two-Weapon Fighting.

[Gadget2775]

Looking at my AC breakdown and I can't remember what the bonus AC from Tempest displayed as...


Tempest Monk: 7 Monk/6 Ranger (Halfling)
Current Unbuffed numbers...
10 Base
11 Dex
07 Wis
06 Armor
05 Deflection
01 Misc (Parrying Weapon)
04 Feat (Dodge, Two-Weapon Defense = 2; +2 For Tempest?)
02 Centered (Monk Levels, 1 at 1st & 1 at 5th)
01 Size
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47 Total....

If so Tempest is still granting a +2 Bonus to AC at all times (I only loose one AC when switching to Single Kama or Handwraps...From my Two-Weapon Defense). However, commentary on the boards seemed to indicate the Tempest AC bonus had been removed altogether. Can anyone confirm or provide additional items that would provide +2 AC from unlisted sources...