sub skellie named loot

[jamie_lannister]

had 3 named items drop out of rare skellie in subteranne.1 icy rainment and 2 lowbie weapons 1 named flametounge and one named frostbrand.....wonder what else drops?
happy looting.............

[Mhykke]

The same icy raiment from GOP drops w/ the undead skelly now?

Nice.

[Aerniel]

no screenshotz?

[jamie_lannister]

yes

[jamie_lannister]

sorry forgot to get a screenie

[Aerniel]

:/ so no visual proof!?


I call SHENANIGANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jamie_lannister]

bah to your shenanigans,whats crazy is noone in party could really use it....what a waste

[Aerniel]

>_>........ ******

[alchilito]

bah to your shenanigans,whats crazy is noone in party could really use it....what a waste

your fired jaime :D

[Aerniel]

so what class got it?

[redspecter23]

I'll confirm what Jaime says. I was in the same group. We had Flametongue, Frostbrand, Dwarven Thrower and Icy Raiment drop and maybe another thing as well.

[Aerniel]

I'll confirm what Jaime says. I was in the same group. We had Flametongue, Frostbrand, Dwarven Thrower and Icy Raiment drop and maybe another thing as well.

all at the same time?

[jamie_lannister]

yup all outta the same chest,theres 2 chests at named skellie now.the one that was always there and a nice big new gold one.

[Aerniel]

same chest or same time?(my brain hurts)

[redspecter23]

There are two chests that spawn. The first is a standard chest and the second larger one holds the rare items. And yes, all those items dropped in one run in the big chest.

[Aerniel]

wow jeez... so its just like raid loot i assume?

is the rare hard?

[Geonis]

Is this the:

-The rare encounter with Garamon in the Subterrane may prove much more profitable than before. A number of interesting treasures have been reported.

chest?

[transtemporal]

There are two chests that spawn. The first is a standard chest and the second larger one holds the rare items. And yes, all those items dropped in one run in the big chest.

Well how about that? You DO post! :-) sounds like some expeditions are in order...

[CDG]

3 Named items you say? How cool would it be if that chest had a chance to drop every named item in the game. Not including end rewards or raid loot. Everything from those junky Harbour quest trinkets through to Bloodstones and boots of the innocent... Just my random thoughts...

[Charlemagne2]

raiments, 2 luck blades, mace of smiting, and frostbrand -its a officially a loot run!

hip hip

hip hip hoorah!

[Isssssa]

raiments, 2 luck blades, mace of smiting, and frostbrand -its a officially a loot run!

hip hip

hip hip hoorah!


you forgot the dwarven throwers and sun blade that dropped

[Durack]

had 3 named items drop out of rare skellie in subteranne.1 icy rainment and 2 lowbie weapons 1 named flametounge and one named frostbrand.....wonder what else drops?
happy looting.............

Not that don't believe ya but can we get a screenshot for confirmation. I'd hate to see all the guys trying to pull rainment's on our server try to farm this as well and come to find it in fact is not in that chest

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Not that don't believe ya but can we get a screenshot for confirmation. I'd hate to see all the guys trying to pull rainment's on our server try to farm this as well and come to find it in fact is not in that chest

Well, I wasn't in the party.. But I saw our people talking about it in guild chat like it was a fact.

[Vivanto]

Does that mean the Raiment no longer drops in GoP or its on both chests now?

[Osharan_Tregarth]

Does that mean the Raiment no longer drops in GoP or its on both chests now?

Judging by the wide range of stuff dropping, I'd say that it's in both spots, but that's just my own opinion. We'd have to go back and farm GoP until someone pulls it there too, to be certain.

[jamie_lannister]

dont really care what u believe,the rainments now drop from that chest and thats a fact.

[vtecfiend99]

dont really care what u believe,the rainments now drop from that chest and thats a fact.

I believe you cuz i really want there to be two places to sack that item lol

[itsmezed72]

The Icy Rainment absolutely does drop. In two runs, we saw it drop twice.

[smatt]

Yep all of the above do indeed drop :D

[ShadowSeeker]

where in the sub is Garamon

[Vivanto]

where in the sub is Garamon

Its the big giant skelly in the silo with the traps, I saw somewhere around a sub central map on the forums, not sure where atm tho :/

edit:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149639&

Here it is, at the northern part is a portal marked with C, the portal only spawns devils if the rare didnt spawn and you cant enter, if Garamon does spawn, the portal can be entered.

[ShadowSeeker]

Thnx ... found him ;)

[creithne]

Do you REALLY believe that chest is working as intended? Dropping everything from a named measly +1 flaming burst longsword to the uberest of uber outfits? Yeah...no way that chest is bugged...:o

[Aspenor]

as long as these items still drop in other places, great call Turbine

[Talcyndl]

Do you REALLY believe that chest is working as intended? Dropping everything from a named measly +1 flaming burst longsword to the uberest of uber outfits? Yeah...no way that chest is bugged...:o

[Puts up LFM for loot runs while the good times last.]

[Turren]

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Thursday, October 30th from 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for a hotfix. Risia will remain up and available during the downtime. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon!



Say goodbye ;)

[Ringos]

The DDO Game Servers will be brought down on Thursday, October 30th from 11:00 AM - 2:00 PM Eastern (-4 GMT) for a hotfix. Risia will remain up and available during the downtime. Thanks for your patience, and we'll see you back in the game soon!



Say goodbye ;)

...and all of that good loot will end up like my starter gear: DELETED! :)

[sirgog]

Not that don't believe ya but can we get a screenshot for confirmation. I'd hate to see all the guys trying to pull rainment's on our server try to farm this as well and come to find it in fact is not in that chest

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/sirgog/ScreenShot00071.jpg

I assume that post this downtime it will still drop but will be rarer. Hope not.

I looted a Flametounge (solid twinking item), someone else got a Sunblade (sick twinking item), and there was a Raiment.

[Arjen]

ugh. been grinding the living heck out of GOP to no avail only for it to be dropping like candy pre-hotfix.

just like whisperdoom and numerous other post release sessions - exploit early and often, you'll be rewarded. :mad:

[creithne]

ugh. Just Like Whisperdoom And Numerous Other Post Release Sessions - Exploit Early And Often, You'll Be Rewarded. :mad:

Qft

[vtecfiend99]

ugh. been grinding the living heck out of GOP to no avail only for it to be dropping like candy pre-hotfix.

just like whisperdoom and numerous other post release sessions - exploit early and often, you'll be rewarded. :mad:

yeah because completing an encounter and opening a chest is an exploit:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Ollathir]

I was in the Sub run with Jamie and other members of CK yesterday. That chest was probably the coolest event of the day after grinding through the bugged walls in the Ice caves and a nearly impossible Time frame in which to save the Dragon. I kind of like the idea of getting "guaranteed" random named loot from one location. Like Jamie said, "No one in the group really needed the Icy Raiments on the toons they ran ", but it was still cool. There are plenty other issues that need attending to I'm sure to reflect on the downtime. Please don't take away Christmas.

[Lateralus]

So... Noone's been back in to this chest since the update yet to see if anything's changed?

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Does the Icey Rainment from the skellie chest bind like the one from GOP?

[Lateralus]

Does the Icey Rainment from the skellie chest bind like the one from GOP?

Yes, if you look at the previously posted screenshot it still says it in the description.

[BlackSteel]

lucky dogs

get stuck staring at the launcher trying to DL instead of looting super chests :(

[Xaxx]

super chest... its a level 17 chest dropping lev 2-8 loots... umm... umm... super chest... ***????.. good twinkin chest yeah.... ****in off alot of people who spent how long runing for rainment.. yeah... super chest.. now if it was droppin rainment, bloodstone, scourge choker, larges, and a bunch of other **** then ok.. yeah.. but its droppin twink ****.. umm shouldnt t his have been new named loot not lowbie stuff. Unless they opening sub up to lev 5s.....

[Lateralus]

super chest... its a level 17 chest dropping lev 2-8 loots... umm... umm... super chest... ***????.. good twinkin chest yeah.... ****in off alot of people who spent how long runing for rainment.. yeah... super chest.. now if it was droppin rainment, bloodstone, scourge choker, larges, and a bunch of other **** then ok.. yeah.. but its droppin twink ****.. umm shouldnt t his have been new named loot not lowbie stuff. Unless they opening sub up to lev 5s.....

it's not dropping rainment anymore? it was yesterday

[Durack]

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l22/sirgog/ScreenShot00071.jpg

I assume that post this downtime it will still drop but will be rarer. Hope not.

I looted a Flametounge (solid twinking item), someone else got a Sunblade (sick twinking item), and there was a Raiment.

thanks for the post bro.. I appericiate it. I'll be spreading the word for sure

[DaveyCrockett]

.. now if it was droppin rainment, bloodstone, scourge choker, larges, and a bunch of other **** then ok.. yeah.. but its droppin twink ****.. umm shouldnt t his have been new named loot not lowbie stuff. Unless they opening sub up to lev 5s.....

It is dropping Icy Raiment, Bloodstone, and other random named items (even after the update - saw 2 in 3 runs).

[Twerpp]

I'll confirm what Jaime says. I was in the same group. We had Flametongue, Frostbrand, Dwarven Thrower and Icy Raiment drop and maybe another thing as well.

Nice so you can fill a raid party for a good shot at getting this stuff.

[suitepotato]

I expect a nerf upcoming to be not removal of the items or lessening of the drops, but lessening of the rare spawn, and probably more living spells. I expect they'll make us work for it. So the subterrane lives up still to its design as a truly high level raid group explorer area which is fine for me. I don't ever expect to solo anything for the Icy Raiment or similar good stuff.

EDIT: The first person to say in party chat "no sacrifice, no victory!" from Transformers is getting squelched. Just shhh and keep swinging.

[sirgog]

I expect a nerf upcoming to be not removal of the items or lessening of the drops, but lessening of the rare spawn, and probably more living spells. I expect they'll make us work for it. So the subterrane lives up still to its design as a truly high level raid group explorer area which is fine for me. I don't ever expect to solo anything for the Icy Raiment or similar good stuff.

EDIT: The first person to say in party chat "no sacrifice, no victory!" from Transformers is getting squelched. Just shhh and keep swinging.

I'd be a fan of keeping the current spawn rate; but adding two living spells to the encounter with the rare - one Harm and one Polar Ray. That'd make it something you'd want to take 12 to - whereas when PUGging, IMO the optimal group size for it is about 6-8 so people don't get lost.

[Lehrman]

It is dropping Icy Raiment, Bloodstone, and other random named items (even after the update - saw 2 in 3 runs).

Yup, post hotfix I have seen:
Icy Rainmentx2
Sunbladex3
Mace of Smitingx1
Frostbrandx2
Flame Tonguex1
Dwarven Throwerx1

My guess is that the chest is set to drop random named loot.

BTW, that was in 2 runs with 12 peeps. Much better odds than running GoP with 6.:eek:

Unfortunately, it took us a long time to get him to spawn (8 runs or so) and on the last attempt the room bugged when we kill boss and we all ended up floating till a GM showed up. She or he had to spawn the boss and kill him again to turn off trap.

[query]

finally a place to get the impossible sunblade...oh yeah icy is nice too when I'm NOT a warforged :(

My monk barely is approaching 13 while my sniper ranger is just about 12 and my pure rogue is 6....it will take a while for me.

(And to think the millions I lost just to get a bloodstone trying the "old" way.)

[jamie_lannister]

one thing you might wanna try to increase the spawn rate of the named skellie....when we do guild runs we activate every rune(in sub central) before going to the skellie rune,it has yet to not spawn using that method...3-4 runs pre mod 8 and 4-5 runs post mod 8.

[Isssssa]

super chest... its a level 17 chest dropping lev 2-8 loots... umm... umm... super chest... ***????.. good twinkin chest yeah.... ****in off alot of people who spent how long runing for rainment.. yeah... super chest.. now if it was droppin rainment, bloodstone, scourge choker, larges, and a bunch of other **** then ok.. yeah.. but its droppin twink ****.. umm shouldnt t his have been new named loot not lowbie stuff. Unless they opening sub up to lev 5s.....

Well not level 5's but I did pull rainments on my level 7
:D
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00024yz0.jpg

[query]

So...beautiful.........


Well not level 5's but I did pull rainments on my level 7
:D
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00024yz0.jpg

[slimywarts]

It's obviously not intended; loot of this sort dropping at the frequency people are claiming will cause havok to this game in manifold ways.

So, if you are honest enough to admit it either a) isn't meant to be dropping all this unique loot that was formerly attached to specific quests, or b) that it was, but at a far more realistic miniscule rate, then ergo c) you are exploiting but hiding behind the fact Turbine is too busy tod eal with it now, they are not not sure how they caused it, or simply you don't care, which I suppose is as valid a feeling as any for the average sociopathic MMO player.

Icy rainments for the unemployed 14 hour-a -day looters! And bloodstones for the chronically sleep-deprived who are employed! Hurray! Nah, none of this will turn this whole game into some sort of awesome snob fest!

[lostx]

It's absolutely intended. They even put in a hotfox for for other chests but left this one alone.

[Aspenor]

It's absolutely intended. They even put in a hotfox for for other chests but left this one alone.

Going to have to agree with you there Lost.

[juniorpfactors]

Well not level 5's but I did pull rainments on my level 7
:D
http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00024yz0.jpg

looks like you paid alot for it, your broke......nice pull

jrp

[Vorn]

Dang, and I was hoping for some new, original, interesting, desirable item (s).
:(

[akla_thornfist]

we ran it last night stil droping lots of named stuff, i didnt get any but got a nice dwarven smiter

[DaveyCrockett]

Ransacked my cleric there last night. 3 guildies finally got their Raiments, and were very happy that grind was over for them.

I pulled:

+2 Wis Tome
+3 Vorpal Longsword
Dwarven Thrower
Sunblade x 2
Mace of Smiting

And vendored about 80k in non-mentionables.

Definately my favorite new loot run. :D

[Strakeln]

Thanks for making this thread, OP. I logged on ASAP last night and looted this chest til I was blue in the face... but finally pulled my ranger some Raiments. Cheers mate!

Edit: also pulled two frostbrands (junk) and two flametongues (awesome twinkage).

[jddonkeykong]

maybe its in response to the countless pre mod 8 threads entitled " we deserve something special for putting up with (----------) give us loot and xp !!" so it very well might last a couple days and be done.

[liamfrancais]

is the rare hard?

The named skeleton can be troublesome as well as the surrounding effects.

[Big-Dex]

Great little lootz run by the DEVS. There are three entrances, if one doesn't let you in, check the others. Only one entrance is kinda out of the way. It is actuallly a fun little fight and great potential for rewards. Even if some stuff is lowbie stuff, with new toon slot, I am sure you can make use of it. Happy Ransacking!

~ Dex

[Issip]

Saw 3 raiments drop from one chest.

Thanks for making fools out the people like me who spent weeks farming GoP :mad:

The other thing that really irritates me is the fact that within a couple of days every rogue, ranger and monk above level 12 will look exactly the same. Having everyone in the game wearing minos legens was pretty lame, but at least everyone just typed in /showhelmet off - now we are all going to be in matching PJ's.

The only other useful loot in there is the sunblade, which would be great if I were leveling a ranger to wear the free PJ's, but I'm not.

Could you at least hand out free chattering rings while you're at it? I have spent months trying to get one and haven't been able to - I think i'm done grinding for loot in this game, what a joke.

[Arkat]

I ran with the Ransack guild on Khyber last night and Icy Raiments showed up on my first run. Goolan pulled it and couldn't use it (he's a WF Barb) so he put it up for roll. I rolled an 89 and won!

Wow! That was easy! :D

Thanks Devs!! Thanks Goolan!!

[Ganak]

I think the percieved value of Icy Rainment will drop as one can now make a Dragontouched Robe with a +3 dodge bonus for the Soverign slot, plus two other effects in the other two spots that should be quite superior the the rainment: http://forums.ddo.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1912272

That said, I got my rogue a rainment yesterday:)

[gemineye]

I seen a few threads that mentioned the bloodstone dropping in that chest too. Can anyone confirm pulling one?

[KoboldKiller]

Question and it may have been answered but I'm lazy, is the loot namely the Raiments bound?

[Lorichie]

Question and it may have been answered but I'm lazy, is the loot namely the Raiments bound?

it is, and its the only bound item ive found (or heard of) thus far.

R

[KoboldKiller]

it is, and its the only bound item ive found (or heard of) thus far.

R


KK ty.

[Draccus]

It's obviously not intended; loot of this sort dropping at the frequency people are claiming will cause havok to this game in manifold ways.

So, if you are honest enough to admit it either a) isn't meant to be dropping all this unique loot that was formerly attached to specific quests, or b) that it was, but at a far more realistic miniscule rate, then ergo c) you are exploiting but hiding behind the fact Turbine is too busy tod eal with it now, they are not not sure how they caused it, or simply you don't care, which I suppose is as valid a feeling as any for the average sociopathic MMO player.



or d) you could be completely wrong.

[Club'in]

or d) you could be completely wrong.

Yup. This is not a game breaker. Ran it for four hours last night. The skelly only spawned twice. No one got anything even remotely remarkable. I personally pulled two freaking Luck Blades. Luck Blades! Oh, I think it's broken alright... :D

[Aspenor]

Yup. This is not a game breaker. Ran it for four hours last night. The skelly only spawned twice. No one got anything even remotely remarkable. I personally pulled two freaking Luck Blades. Luck Blades! Oh, I think it's broken alright... :D

I beleve the encounter spawns every time, there are just variable entrances throughout the subterane.

[FlimsyFirewood]

I beleve the encounter spawns every time, there are just variable entrances throughout the subterane.

Mmm-hmm. Anyone learn to read giant yet?

[Lorichie]

Mmm-hmm. Anyone learn to read giant yet?

Third time ive seen this....

Think we're trying to be told something....


R

[Club'in]

The party I was in was convinced the quickest way was to sprint down to one of the possible portal spawn spots. Not there, DD, exit, regroup, rinse and repeat...

Now, maybe the next group I'm in will be more interested in doing a full circuit until we find the right portal. /shrug

[Aspenor]

Mmm-hmm. Anyone learn to read giant yet?

/rolls decipher script

NAT 20!!!! TELL ME NOW!!!!!

[SteeleTrueheart]

The group I ran with does a circuit of 2 of the entrances... i am going to take screenshots next time to see if the script on the entranceway/runes are different for the correct/incorrect entrances.

[Gratch]

Hmmm... maybe we should take sshots of the portals before we turn them on to see if they have different light bright sets glowing... or maybe there's a sign in one of the earlier caverns that tells you 1, 2, or 3 so you know which portal to go to. If you can find it and post... you can be the forum's SCREENSHOT WINNER OF THE MOD (even accepting non DX10).

Ran this rare 5 or 6 times yesterday. Saw and got a few of the nameds that have been mentioned (didn't see a Bloodstone though). Jumped in a Cursed Crypt run to get the amulet upgraded and tried to explain the high frequency dropping of named items and to list all the named items that were dropping from the giant skelly loot chest. At some point I was probably rambling in remembrance of all the named non-specific items I hadn't seen in the chest. I then got fully trashed on for "spoiling the new raid" and "bragging about all my looting". Sheesh... I'm sure it had nothing to do with my "note" about how all our non-wfg'ed casters seemed to die vs. the named skelly.

Note to self: Fleshy casters are touchy about their lameness.

[Turial]

Mmm-hmm. Anyone learn to read giant yet?

Yes but my liver doesn't like it when I drink that much.

[smatt]

Since Flimsy has been saying "Learn to read Giant yet" so often... I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe the ruins will tell you what portal to the Skelly is active..... But then again, they could be giving you directions to the nearest Pub :D

[Borror0]

Hmmmm.... interesting.

[Big-Dex]

Since Flimsy has been saying "Learn to read Giant yet" so often... I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe the ruins will tell you what portal to the Skelly is active..... But then again, they could be giving you directions to the nearest Pub :D

Nope! That would be written in DWARVEN, not GIANT. :D

As for the entrances, I am not sure about he ruins, but as I said earlier (or in another post), I believe there are three entrances. One in the east, and two in the central. The two in the central are easy to get to. Directions are below...

ENTRANCE 1) Head like you are heading to the hound. In the big room (this room is prior to going through the door to the east entrance portal where beholder and mind flayer are), drop down hard two levels to your left and go underneath where you were to the NE corner of the room. There is a mindflayer there. That is one of the entrances.

ENTRANCE 2) The same directions to the big room as above. Except, instead of dropping down two levels, drop one and stay head N in the center. There is a door there. Go through that door, make a left and a quick right (might be door here) and another quick right and you are there. There will be a small fight and a shrine.

If he is not at one, he might be at other. If not at either of these two, then the third entrance continues along same run, but is in that room to the left (where the rune sometimes spawns that unlocks the entrance to shrine, where the named flenser sometimes appears -- the one just prior to gong through the portal to the three beholder fight). That is a much longer run that is easier to just recall, reform and rerun the other two.

Of four runs, he was at one of the first two three of four.

Mind you, I also add these directions so folks might be able to take some snaps of the giant runes so we can decipher this riddle of FLIMSY's.

~ Dex

[gemineye]

http://www8.picfront.org/picture/bG76OgEqw5d/img/ddoReadGiant.jpg

Angelus Dead posted this in another thread...I hope it helps

[Opall]

Mmm-hmm. Anyone learn to read giant yet?

I could be way off base, but here is my observation:

In Lord Of The Rings...not the game..the movie..Liv Tyler learned how to speak Elvish.
Is it possible that there is a written/spoken Giant language? If so, then is it possible that they have something written or something a monster says down in the sub that we can understand only if we take the time to research this?

What if there is more to Mod 8 that we dont/wont discover until we solve this little riddle?

I am sorry If I am rambling a bit. I need more coffee :) Still trying to get geared up for a night of Trick Or Treating with 3 kids.

Opall

[Angelus_dead]

http://www8.picfront.org/picture/bG76OgEqw5d/img/ddoReadGiant.jpg

Angelus Dead posted this in another thread...I hope it helps
What I'm showing with that picture is that there's basically the same giant text used everywhere, and that there is so little variation in it that it's helpless to try to figure out what the words mean.

That isn't to say it's impossible that the runes are providing some information. Even if the words themselves are gibberish, maybe their position or angle changes a little based on the location of the Garamol portal.

[slimywarts]

It's absolutely intended. They even put in a hotfox for for other chests but left this one alone.

Then it meandered from being unintentional to being possibly short-sighted as to the size of its future playerbase. We shall see. It's only my opinion, and I can't play 16 hours a day/7 days a week to be a fully qualified "DDO pundit", but it seems loot inflation tends to hyper-intense grinding and "loot runs" which in turn leads to a small group of fanatical addicts who stay with the game and the majority slowly leaving for other games so once again gaming feels like a GAME rather than a full-time JOB, or simply quit gaming all together out of the intense, neurotic emphasis on"efficiency" that the remaining player base put on almost all their gaming. I personally prefer to be very efficient at my job to earn real-life "plat", and leave the gaming for some serious thought, devotion, and removal from reality, but not to the point where I abandon pursuit of a worthy, decent career and self-development physically, mentally, and spiritually. When games "jump the shark" and become entirely about looting and the consequent raids that inevitably attach to them (or "loot runs") it quickly becomes a new career and not a past-time that could rightfully be devoted to somewhat as a loved hobby.

Go read a few posts on wowdetox.com and see whether this looting running is really something you are choosing, or MMO developers just know how to apply random operant conditioning on us big children who consequently get sucked into these games and make them JOBS due to underlying weak-will and lack of a careful analysis that we've taken a hobby way too far. I'm as much a victim of it at times too, sadly, but would simply caution self introspection and development of will power in this area of hobbies to put a firm lid on its intrusion into full-blown self-destructive addiction process caused by maybe the most cleverly applied random operant conditioning the world has ever devised.

/end rant :D

[Sequell]

Then it meandered from being unintentional to being possibly short-sighted as to the size of its future playerbase. We shall see. It's only my opinion, and I can't play 16 hours a day/7 days a week to be a fully qualified "DDO pundit", but it seems loot inflation tends to hyper-intense grinding and "loot runs" which in turn leads to a small group of fanatical addicts who stay with the game and the majority slowly leaving for other games so once again gaming feels like a GAME rather than a full-time JOB, or simply quit gaming all together out of the intense, neurotic emphasis on"efficiency" that the remaining player base put on almost all their gaming. I personally prefer to be very efficient at my job to earn real-life "plat", and leave the gaming for some serious thought, devotion, and removal from reality, but not to the point where I abandon pursuit of a worthy, decent career and self-development physically, mentally, and spiritually. When games "jump the shark" and become entirely about looting and the consequent raids that inevitably attach to them (or "loot runs") it quickly becomes a new career and not a past-time that could rightfully be devoted to somewhat as a loved hobby.

Go read a few posts on wowdetox.com and see whether this looting running is really something you are choosing, or MMO developers just know how to apply random operant conditioning on us big children who consequently get sucked into these games and make them JOBS due to underlying weak-will and lack of a careful analysis that we've taken a hobby way too far. I'm as much a victim of it at times too, sadly, but would simply caution self introspection and development of will power in this area of hobbies to put a firm lid on its intrusion into full-blown self-destructive addiction process caused by maybe the most cleverly applied random operant conditioning the world has ever devised.

/end rant :D

You want to be a Psychiatrist then get off the forums and go back to College...otherwise shut up and loot the chest! :D

[ViolentEnd]

Pertaining to A_D's photo of the runes...

Total speculation here, but perhaps they are trying to let us know that there is more to be done with crafting.

Also, since Flimsy continues to drop clues about the Garamon encounter, maybe there is more to it than meets the eye. I would guess that it has something to do with what runes are where.. Dunno

[rimble]

What I'm showing with that picture is that there's basically the same giant text used everywhere, and that there is so little variation in it that it's helpless to try to figure out what the words mean.

That isn't to say it's impossible that the runes are providing some information. Even if the words themselves are gibberish, maybe their position or angle changes a little based on the location of the Garamol portal.

The top two images, the block of runes they have in common, the 3rd column is just flipped vertically then horizontally from the 1st column.

[Turial]

What I'm showing with that picture is that there's basically the same giant text used everywhere, and that there is so little variation in it that it's helpless to try to figure out what the words mean.

That isn't to say it's impossible that the runes are providing some information. Even if the words themselves are gibberish, maybe their position or angle changes a little based on the location of the Garamol portal.

Only real way to figure it out would be to take a screen shot of each portal as you go in and if it leads to Garamol you keep it in the Garamol photo pile. After 3-4 screen shots that lead to Garamol you compare them and see how they differ from those that don't lead to him.

My theory follows that of yours A_D, a small change in position or angle would be the likely indicator. All the Garamol pics though should be the same if thats the case.

[Angelus_dead]

Only real way to figure it out would be to take a screen shot of each portal as you go in and if it leads to Garamol you keep it in the Garamol photo pile. After 3-4 screen shots that lead to Garamol you compare them and see how they differ from those that don't lead to him.
They don't differ.

[Turial]

They don't differ.

Well nuts. That would have been the logical way to do it if they differed but if the "text" is always the same.

[muffinlad]

We really don't know if the Giant Language is "symbol" based cuniform (sp), or more of a runic based "Roman" system...what we need is a Rosetta Stone that gives us the base translations, and lets us go from there.

muffinscribe

[Wizzly_Bear]

How do you get there? I don't see the beginning entrance on the map.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

We really don't know if the Giant Language is "symbol" based cuniform (sp), or more of a runic based "Roman" system...what we need is a Rosetta Stone that gives us the base translations, and lets us go from there.

muffinscribe

Well since all WF can read giant if they are wearing a docet its kind of odd we can't read it, guess the devs haven't read the rule book :p

[suitepotato]

The other thing that really irritates me is the fact that within a couple of days every rogue, ranger and monk above level 12 will look exactly the same. Having everyone in the game wearing minos legens was pretty lame, but at least everyone just typed in /showhelmet off - now we are all going to be in matching PJ's.


/showclothes off

:eek:

Wow, them elf women are nice...

[Dylos_Moon]

I believe I've figured out how to tell where the named is,

First take a look at this picture:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/SS6Trunks/ScreenShot00019.jpg
Then at this one:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/SS6Trunks/ScreenShot00021.jpg

Notice the Difference?
The 1 symbol of difference seems to point towards the Named skelly,
here it is again in a 2nd location:
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j84/SS6Trunks/ScreenShot00025.jpg
Right after this symbol was a portal that led to the skelly.

This is still just a theory, but it managed to let me suggest that he was at a portal before flipping the rune.

[Wizzly_Bear]

yes, follow the 'G'

[Big-Dex]

I posted a new thread here with directions on how to use the RUNES that FLIMSY has hinted at, with directions to the entrances. That thread is here.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=1913276#post1913276

Good luck and good lootz!
~ Dex

[ShadowFox1978]

I think the percieved value of Icy Rainment will drop as one can now make a Dragontouched Robe with a +3 dodge bonus for the Soverign slot, plus two other effects in the other two spots that should be quite superior the the rainment: http://forums.ddo.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=1912272

That said, I got my rogue a rainment yesterday:)

You are wrong. Dodge bonus on the new robes does not stack with chattering ring. Rainments will stay the superior choice. I will however craft a few situational armors.