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Pwesiela
09-29-2008, 05:50 PM
OK, so I'm looking at making the following cloak:

Tier I: Ethereal, Opposition, Positive - Will save +5
Tier II: Ethereal, Opposition, Negative - Fear immunity, Proof against poison
Tier III: Ethereal, Opposition, Negative - Deathblock
Ethereal, Opposition, Positive - Superior regeneration

Put that all together, and at Tier II, I should get existential stalemate, giving a +10 to diplomacy and haggle, and +6 wisdom

Doing the double shard at Tier III should give me Concordant Opposition, which gives a % chance to regain life and sp when hit.

Here's the question. According to the DDO Crafting Calculator (http://rpgamerd00d.150m.com/DDOCraftingCalculator.html) this all works, except that I loose the death block affect at Tier III while keeping the Superior Regeneration. Is this lost in the creation, or is the calculator wrong? Not having any sort of programing ability, I have no clue about the program's inner workings, but it seems to work for everything else known that I put in.

faldordadink
09-29-2008, 05:51 PM
as far as I know, only the dominant tier 3 power will take effect, the secondary one is not applied, basically you spend 12 larges to get the % spell points/hps back. I could be wrong but pretty sure thats how it works

Impaqt
09-29-2008, 05:52 PM
OK, so I'm looking at making the following cloak:

Tier I: Ethereal, Opposition, Positive - Will save +5
Tier II: Ethereal, Opposition, Negative - Fear immunity, Proof against poison
Tier III: Ethereal, Opposition, Negative - Deathblock
Ethereal, Opposition, Positive - Superior regeneration

Put that all together, and at Tier II, I should get existential stalemate, giving a +10 to diplomacy and haggle, and +6 wisdom

Doing the double shard at Tier III should give me Concordant Opposition, which gives a % chance to regain life and sp when hit.

Here's the question. According to the DDO Crafting Calculator (http://rpgamerd00d.150m.com/DDOCraftingCalculator.html) this all works, except that I loose the death block affect at Tier III while keeping the Superior Regeneration. Is this lost in the creation, or is the calculator wrong? Not having any sort of programing ability, I have no clue about the program's inner workings, but it seems to work for everything else known that I put in.

You can only have one Tier 3 Effect on an item (Plus the Dual shard bonus)

Positive> Negative for this purose. You'll get the regen, but not the deathblock.

Pwesiela
09-29-2008, 10:54 PM
You can only have one Tier 3 Effect on an item (Plus the Dual shard bonus)

Positive> Negative for this purose. You'll get the regen, but not the deathblock.

Well, ****.

LOL, evidently the filters don't like the four letter word p**p.

Pwesiela
09-29-2008, 10:57 PM
Well, I guess +6 wisdom, +5 will saves, proof against poison, fear immunity, +10 haggle and dipplo, superior regen, and % chance ain't that bad of an item. Would like DB though...

I guess I'm better off just foregoing the double tier III and getting deathblock, rather than the 1% chance for some hp and sp, huh? Unless it's like a full heal or something. But I doubt that.

tihocan
09-30-2008, 01:19 PM
I guess I'm better off just foregoing the double tier III and getting deathblock, rather than the 1% chance for some hp and sp, huh? Unless it's like a full heal or something. But I doubt that.
It's about 30 SP/HP.

Aspenor
09-30-2008, 01:24 PM
Well, I guess +6 wisdom, +5 will saves, proof against poison, fear immunity, +10 haggle and dipplo, superior regen, and % chance ain't that bad of an item. Would like DB though...

I guess I'm better off just foregoing the double tier III and getting deathblock, rather than the 1% chance for some hp and sp, huh? Unless it's like a full heal or something. But I doubt that.

Taking the dual shard at tier 3 for concordant opposition is a waste of ingredients. Nuff said.

Pwesiela
09-30-2008, 02:58 PM
It's about 30 SP/HP.

Agreed Asp. Waste of ingredients.

Guess for completeness sake, anyone know how short the intervals are for the superior regeneration? I know it's 1 hp per tick, but how short are the ticks?

Aeneas
09-30-2008, 03:14 PM
1 every 15 seconds i believe, works only on fleshies unless your wf has mad commitment to improved healing enhancements and items.