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Impaqt
09-16-2008, 03:13 PM
Most of my Builds nowadays feature lots of Raid gear and +2 tomes. Thats how I play the game. But I understand that many folks dont play that way and still want to run a solid build but dont know what direction to go. They often feel they could never acheive the loot presented in builds so they dont want to try it.

THis is for you. This build offers excellent Damage potential, Full Two Weapon Fighting, Nice solid AC, Great saving throws, lots of Hit points, and best of all only requires 400 Favor and a Single +2 tome to shore up your AC with Combat Expertise. If you dont have the TOme, just grab any ole' feat in place of CE and whenya reach 1750 or get that +2 Int tome, Swap that feat out.

Of course, this build can benefit from +2 Tomes in any stat, so feel free to add em if ya obtain them!

I feel this is one of the best options for a Casual gamer who has their Drow favor, but the idea of grindng to 1750 is perhaps a bit overwhelming.


NOTE: Dex Requirement for ITWF & GTWF. THe Requirement for these feats is a 17Dex. We start with a 16 Here. There are 2 ways to get there. Easiest, Take your Level 4 Stat Increase in DEX. THis puts you at 17. You then will Drop Elf Dex 2 and Pick up FIguter STR III you end up spending 2 More ACtion points on Stat increases, but Net the same End numbers.

THe other Option is a +1 Dex Tome. These are pretty comon now, SO if ya have one I'd use it on this guy and stick to the build as presented.

Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
(12 Fighter / 2 Paladin / 2 Monk)
Hit Points: 384
20 Heroic Durability
120 L12 Fighter
20 L2 Paly
16 L2 Monk
64 Con Bonus
36 Toughness Feats
50 Toughness Enh
10 Dragonic
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352 Standing
18 Minos Legend
30 GFL
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384 Hit Points

Spell Points: 0

BAB: 15/15/20/25/25

15 BAB
9 STR Bonus
2/2 Drow Rapier/SS Eh
2/2 Weapon Focus/GWF
0/1 Vulkoor
5/5 Weapon
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33/34 Unbuffed
-2/-2 TWF
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+31/+32
-5/-5 CE or PA
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+26/+27 In stance
4/4 GH
1/1 Haste
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+31/+32 w/ Common self Buffs

Damage:
1d8(3.5)GS Rapier +5weapon +5PA +4WS/GWS +2 Drow +9STR = 28.5 average swing

A/C:
10 Base
6 Armored Bracers
1 Dodge
1 TWD
7 Dex Bonus
5 Wisdom Bonus
5 Protection Cloak
5 CE
1 Aura
1 Robe Ritua
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43 TWF AC Unbuffed no Raid Loot
3 Bark Potion
1 Haste
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47 Self Buffed
2 Ranger Bark
4 Bard Song
2 Recitation
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54 Beggin FOr Buffs
3 Pocket Paladin
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57 AC Potential, Over 1 Min at a time
4 Sheild Clicky
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61 AC w/ 1 Minute Clicky(ACtually about 50 Seconds by the time you turn CE back on)
3 Chattering Ring
4 Shroud +4 Insight
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68 w/ Raid Loot


Saving Throws:
Fortitude/Reflex/Will

8/4/4 Fighter 12
3/3/3 Monk 2
3/0/0 Paladin 2
4/7/5 Attribute adj
1/1/1 Paly Aura
4/4/4 Divine Grace
4/4/4 Resistance Item
1/1/1 Resistance Ritual
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28/24/22
4/4/4 GH
2/2/2 Head
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34/30/28

Abilities
{28}Strength 16 +2Fighter +4Levels +6 Item
{24}Dexterity 16 +2 Elf +6 Item
{18}Constitution 12 +6 Item
{13}Intelligence 11 +2 Tome
{20}Wisdom 13 +1 Monk +6Item
{18}Charisma 10 +1 Tome +1 Paly CHR+6 Item

Tomes Used
+2 Int Required for CE. Use your Favor tome if ya have to and respec a Placeholder Feat.


Skills

Put a Point in Tumble at creation, 4 Points in Intim, and 3 In Jump

Keep Intim Maxed at all Fighter levels, Use Monk points for Balance!

Balance ~10 Ranks

{40+)Intimidate 19Ranks +4CHR +2 Fighter +15Item

Jump ~10 ranks Fill in Extra Ranks here


Level 1 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons

Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense

Level 4 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons

Level 5 (Fighter)

Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Combat Expertise

Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness

Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Paladin)

Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Focus: Piercing Weapons

Level 13 (Fighter)

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack

Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Weapon Specialization: Piercing Weapons

Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance III
Enhancement: Follower of Vulkoor
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paldin Charisma I

12 More AP's Left over

lord_of_rage
09-16-2008, 03:26 PM
cool build. It looks like it would be a blast for a casual player.

Turial
09-16-2008, 03:33 PM
Pretty similar to my ranger which was a 28 point build. You've put up a solid starting point.

Aerendil
09-17-2008, 10:02 AM
Yep, definitely a nice starter-build that's quite solid, and not tome-heavy or uber gear intensive.

Also easily adaptable if you want to personalize it a bit (i.e. 2 Rogue can substitute for 2 Monk - you'd still have evasion, lose a bit on AC/Saves, but then have access to UMD; additionally, you can drop Fighter levels by 1 and add a 3rd Paladin level for immunity to fear / disease, although you'd lose a Fighter feat).

Not bad at all :)
Nice build, Impaqt.

Impaqt
09-17-2008, 11:32 AM
Yep, definitely a nice starter-build that's quite solid, and not tome-heavy or uber gear intensive.

Also easily adaptable if you want to personalize it a bit (i.e. 2 Rogue can substitute for 2 Monk - you'd still have evasion, lose a bit on AC/Saves, but then have access to UMD; additionally, you can drop Fighter levels by 1 and add a 3rd Paladin level for immunity to fear / disease, although you'd lose a Fighter feat).

Not bad at all :)
Nice build, Impaqt.

I would definatly add the l3 Paly in there eventually.... Ifyou choose to take it at the current cap, that eliminates Greater Weapon Specilization.

Once the cap goes up I would probobly go 15/3/2 depending ont he level requirements for the fighter PrC's and other enhancements.

I got a PM Regarding the Dex Requirement for the I and G TWF Feats.... I aded a note in the original build on how to make sure you qualfy for those feats without Tomes if necessary.

maddmatt70
09-17-2008, 02:48 PM
Edit: Nevermind.

binnsr
09-17-2008, 03:04 PM
will save is 4 too high..

12 Fighter levels gives you 8/4/4 instead of 8/4/8..

Otherwise, looks like a nice solid build without a lot of gear dependancies..

Impaqt
09-17-2008, 03:12 PM
will save is 4 too high..

12 Fighter levels gives you 8/4/4 instead of 8/4/8..

Otherwise, looks like a nice solid build without a lot of gear dependancies..


Fixed. Thanks

Splotto
10-01-2008, 01:36 PM
Hello:

Not being too familiar with Monks I have a few questions on this build. I appreciate any help.

It looks like you are still using rapiers which are non-monk weapons, correct? Yet you forgo any armor in favor of a monk-friendly robe.

Are you switching between monk friendly weapons and the rapiers as you go?

Thanks,
Splotto

Impaqt
10-01-2008, 01:45 PM
Hello:

Not being too familiar with Monks I have a few questions on this build. I appreciate any help.

It looks like you are still using rapiers which are non-monk weapons, correct? Yet you forgo any armor in favor of a monk-friendly robe.

Are you switching between monk friendly weapons and the rapiers as you go?

Thanks,
Splotto
No, Monk Wisdom AC Bonus is not reliant onbeing Centered.

Splotto
10-01-2008, 02:13 PM
No, Monk Wisdom AC Bonus is not reliant onbeing Centered.

Thanks for the quick response!

So what armor are you recommending? It looks like you are listing a robe at the end of your AC calculation section.

So far I am enjoying running this character but I just hit lvl 7 and was curiuos about the Monk aspects.

Thanks for your time.

Splotto

Impaqt
10-01-2008, 02:23 PM
Thanks for the quick response!

So what armor are you recommending? It looks like you are listing a robe at the end of your AC calculation section.

So far I am enjoying running this character but I just hit lvl 7 and was curiuos about the Monk aspects.

Thanks for your time.

Splotto

THe wisdom bonus may not rely on being centered, but it does indeed rely on you being unarmored. ANy armor you put on would negate your wisdom ac bonus. Hence the Robe ritial.

Robes and Armored Bracers for this guy.

Ideally, White Dragon Robe and Chaosguards.(As those robes have an Armor bonus)

Super Ideally, Icy Rainments from Ghosts of perdition.

Splotto
10-01-2008, 02:31 PM
THe wisdom bonus may not rely on being centered, but it does indeed rely on you being unarmored. ANy armor you put on would negate your wisdom ac bonus. Hence the Robe ritial.

Robes and Armored Bracers for this guy.

Ideally, White Dragon Robe and Chaosguards.(As those robes have an Armor bonus)

Super Ideally, Icy Rainments from Ghosts of perdition.

Ok. Thanks for the advice and for sharing the build.

Splotto