Sorcerer + UMD = How much

[Goldeneye]

If I plan to put as many points as I can into UMD, how high can a lvl 16 Sorcerer's UMD get?
would it be high enough to consistently use Heal scrolls without buffs? rez scrolls with self-buffs?
thanks.

[GHOSTRYDER]

FYI heal scrolls have a higher dc than rez scrolls

[mehlinda]

I have a 16 dwarf sorc sitting on 37.5 umd using :
Tier 3 shroud item (+6 umd)
Golden Cartouche (+3 umd)
Head of Good Fortune (+2 umd )
Skill focus umd ( +3 umd)
30 char

I succeed on heal scrolls on a 3 or better with gh and 100% on rez scrolls

Also have a drow with 100% success rate with same gear but with 36 char ( +3 exceptional char shroud item ) and a drow 15 sorc/1 bard with 44 umd with similar stats and gear,,,dropped skill focus on the bard-sorc

[Merkinsal]

As you can see, you need every possible skill point in umd. One point = 5% chance. GH, with an increase of +4 umd and the Head of Good Fortune for +2 luck bonus = 6 = 30% chance or a roll of 6 on a 20 sided die. Without those items above his roll above of 3 would have to be a 9, big difference.

[Goldeneye]

FYI heal scrolls have a higher dc than rez scrolls

Oops, my bad: your right!

Sweet, thanks guys!

[nbhs275]

well, my drow sorc is looking at

9 ranks
14 cha
4 gh
6 shroud
5 7-fingered Gloves
2 HoGF
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40, enough to handle anything i need

If your REALLY concerned about it...there is always one of those 14/2 sorc/rogue builds.

[Desteria]

My human Sorcs Is
+9 => max Ranks.
+12 => 35 cha (38 with dagger but it;s in main hand so does not work for scrolls.)
+3 => Skill Focus UMD go humna feat
+5 => Titan Gloves
+5 => shroud SP item (could be +6 but 5 was enough for me and i had skiver fro archmage already)
+2 => Luck Head of good fortune
+4 => Moral Seld buffed G-hero
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+40 = NO fail on all scroll up to level 6 Levle 7 on a 4

Note +39 is the actuyl no fail point for elvle 6 spelsl ie HEAL; REZ you only need +35 for no fail.

SO it is very possible to get your UMD high enough mine could be 3 higher if i put my shroud cha weapon in my off hand and had built my SP item for +6 cha skills either of thouse options would alow you to use the golden nekc form D's inste dof the titan gloves wich are aa pain in the behind to get.

[Goldeneye]

Sweet, thanks a lot guys!

[Mindspat]

28 point Elven Sorcerer w/ 33 UMD.

32Cha
Head of Good Fortune
7 finger gloves

I think that's right...

[slimywarts]

With max CHA, skill points, golden cartouche, shroud item, skill focus, etc. a sorc can get to a max of 41.5 UMD on a non-human sorc.

Quite useful indeed.

[sirgog]

Every point of UMD from 16 to 39 helps a lot (16-35 helps on Raise Dead scrolls; 20-39 on Heal).

Beyond that, it's mostly for Greater Restoration and UMDing when you have neg levels. Above 39 UMD is less crucial to raise but still helps.