Pally IntimiShrimp

[jarlaxle_dourden]

I recently aquired a +5 Mith Tower Shield and I had +5 Mith Full plate ... So I came up with the idea for a paladin that does not melee much but instead initimidates to hold aggro while the others beat on the mobs.

Again, realize that this will NEVER lead a kill count ... The idea is to be hard to hit while holding aggro and blocking.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.90
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pally intimishrimp
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(1 Fighter \ 15 Paladin)
Hit Points: 330
Spell Points: 184
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 28
Reflex: 21
Will: 24

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 10 10
Dexterity 12 16
Constitution 16 18
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 10 12
Charisma 16 23

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 2 3
Bluff 4 6.5
Concentration 4 4
Diplomacy 4 6
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 4 6
Heal 1 1
Hide 2 5
Intimidate 6 24.5
Jump 0 2
Listen 1 3
Move Silently 2 5
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 0
Search 0 0
Spot 1 1
Swim 0 0
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I

Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I

Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Halfling Hero's Companion II
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Will)

Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II

Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III

Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III

Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands III

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Shield Mastery
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV

[Borror0]

*looks meanly at the character planner presentation* (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=154126)

/intimidate:mad:

*starts analysing*

:p

[Impaqt]

Intimitanks are a prime example of how ROns Character Planner doest show what a build really is. I cant tell you one way or another if this build is any good. It doesnt look good at all here.. But if you have the capabilities to equipt this character withthe best stuff int eh game, it oculd turn out OK.

How did you wind up with Odd numnbers in Bluff and Intimidate? Why did you put ANY points into Bluff?

Other thanthe Mithral Full plat and TS, what kind of defense is this guy really gonna have?

Remeber... Halflings get wacked intheir intimidae skill... -4 against most mobs and you'l be seeing -8 to -12 against most raid bosses.

[Borror0]

I don't like the concept of the character.

In my opinion, you're sacrificing way too much for what you're getting. Sure, this guy is going to be an unkillable rock but...

Your saves are so high you'd not even fail in a level 30 dungeon.
You got inexistant DPS.
And somehow, in all of that, you lack Evasion... which would be needed for an unkillable rock.

At least, fighter-based with paladin and rogue for saves and Evasion would lead to a better build to fit in the concept. If your goal is to stand there and never, ever get hit... might as well grab Evasion. Then, by going fighter-based you'd get more feats to play with, which would result in less of a DPS loss... because there are time where it'll be wiser to swing your weapon than just stand there and hold aggro.

Intimitanks are a prime example of how ROns Character Planner doest show what a build really is.

Totally agreed.

[Artierius]

I love halflings for the extra stuff they give you, however in this case they don't make the best intimitanks for their small size difference penalty. And since you wont put out decent damage as the above has said, Intimidate is your main agro manager...which is at a penalty already for being halfing. (I have been there with this one)

If you are looking for something slightly different than usual...try an 8 Ftr / 8 Pally build (Human 32pt) that way you can be str based and use Khopeshes....and also get a few extra pally burst damages from enhancements and 2nd level pally spell - Angelskin for some extra DR. Also you get the seldom used agro management pally enhancement - Divine Rightiousness.

If you like I could put the rest of it together ...though it would be a slight variation of this TwF I put together that uses no armor.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=154508

[jarlaxle_dourden]

I don't like the concept of the character.

In my opinion, you're sacrificing way too much for what you're getting. Sure, this guy is going to be an unkillable rock but...

Your saves are so high you'd not even fail in a level 30 dungeon.
You got inexistant DPS.
And somehow, in all of that, you lack Evasion... which would be needed for an unkillable rock.

At least, fighter-based with paladin and rogue for saves and Evasion would lead to a better build to fit in the concept. If your goal is to stand there and never, ever get hit... might as well grab Evasion. Then, by going fighter-based you'd get more feats to play with, which would result in less of a DPS loss... because there are time where it'll be wiser to swing your weapon than just stand there and hold aggro.


Totally agreed.

Evasion won't work if my main point is creating a character that will use that Mith FP and TS.

[jarlaxle_dourden]

Intimitanks are a prime example of how ROns Character Planner doest show what a build really is. I cant tell you one way or another if this build is any good. It doesnt look good at all here.. But if you have the capabilities to equipt this character withthe best stuff int eh game, it oculd turn out OK.

How did you wind up with Odd numnbers in Bluff and Intimidate? Why did you put ANY points into Bluff?

Other thanthe Mithral Full plat and TS, what kind of defense is this guy really gonna have?

Remeber... Halflings get wacked intheir intimidae skill... -4 against most mobs and you'l be seeing -8 to -12 against most raid bosses.

Meh ... second level wouldn't let me put the two points into intimidate ... I just dumped it.

[Borror0]

Evasion won't work if my main point is creating a character that will use that Mith FP and TS.

Then use MBP?

[Alcides]

I would suggest dwarf or human over a halfling for an intimitank. You want as few penalties as possible to intimidate.
Humans can get the highest intimidate in the game with the Sentinel Dragonmark feats.
Dwarves have lower intimidate than humans but are the heartiest race and can get Dwarven Armor Mastery I-III which you will want since you'll need high AC on an intimitank.

On my dwarven intimitank Grundable, I currently have the following stats
Str: 24 = 14 + 3 Levels + 1 Book + 6 Item
Dex: 18 = 12 + 0 Levels + 1 Book + 5 Item (Spectral Gloves)
Con: 20 = 16 + 0 Levels + 0 Book + 4 Item
Int: 13 = 12 + 0 Levels + 1 Book
Wis: 22 = 14 + 0 Levels + 2 Book + 6 Item
Cha: 24 = 12 + 1 Level + 2 Book + 6 Item + 3 Enhancements

Levels
Fighter 1, Paladin 15

Feats Taken
1. Toughness, Weapon Focus(Slashing)
3. Dodge
6. Extend
9. Improved Critical(Slashing)
12. Combat Expertise
15: Skill Focus: Intimidate

Skills
Balance: 2
Intimidate: 45 = 19 Base + 13 Item + 2 Luck Bonus + 7 Charisma Bonus + 3 Feat Bonus + 1 Enhancement Bonus
Concentration: 17

His DPS is a little low, but he hits as well as a paladin with 28 str so I'm not complaining too much :)

[jarlaxle_dourden]

I would suggest dwarf or human over a halfling for an intimitank. You want as few penalties as possible to intimidate.


Yea ... I did design a dwarven intimitank as well ...

Here it is:


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.90
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Pally Intimitank
Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(1 Fighter \ 15 Paladin)
Hit Points: 430
Spell Points: 199
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 23
Reflex: 14
Will: 14

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 16 18
Dexterity 15 17
Constitution 16 22
Intelligence 8 10
Wisdom 10 12
Charisma 12 17

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 3 7
Bluff 2 3
Concentration 4 6
Diplomacy 2 3
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 2 3
Heal 1 2
Hide 3 3
Intimidate 4 21.5
Jump 4 4
Listen 1 1
Move Silently 3 3
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 0 0
Search 0 2
Spot 1 1
Swim 4 4
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Shield Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Dwarven Faith I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Shield Mastery
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Sunder) I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I

Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I

Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I

Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I

Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Dwarven Giant Dodger I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I

Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III

Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III

Level 14 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II

Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV