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HumanJHawkins
08-04-2008, 06:14 PM
So... Not being on Khyber, I am befuddled about what this is. Is it just more convenient than running around to different houses for stuff? Because the prices look about the same (if not higher) than I pay on my non-haggle toons.

Also, Turbine has endorsed this with it's thread of the week, and yet it seems to be violating the policy against bots, or macros at least... What is this magic that changes the laws of nature (or man)?

And, do you not know the power of the franchise? If this business is so successful, why has it not branched out to other worlds. I am sure the people on Sarlona would buy from the Qwijymart just as many came up with $6.00 for a Big Mac when it first arrived. (Oh wait, that was Russia... Sarlona, Russia. Meh. About the same.)

Cheers!

jkm
08-04-2008, 06:16 PM
its a couple of players that sell you high ticket consumables at the price equivalent of 50 haggle.

BlackSteel
08-04-2008, 06:18 PM
So... Not being on Khyber, I am befuddled about what this is. Is it just more convenient than running around to different houses for stuff? Because the prices look about the same (if not higher) than I pay on my non-haggle toons.

Also, Turbine has endorsed this with it's thread of the week, and yet it seems to be violating the policy against bots, or macros at least... What is this magic that changes the laws of nature (or man)?

And, do you not know the power of the franchise? If this business is so successful, why has it not branched out to other worlds. I am sure the people on Sarlona would buy from the Qwijymart just as many came up with $6.00 for a Big Mac when it first arrived. (Oh wait, that was Russia... Sarlona, Russia. Meh. About the same.)

Cheers!

He's cheaper than a 20 odd haggle by a good bit, makes me really regret going haggle on my wf barb for repair pots. And its no bot, theres a real person at the shop whenever he's on. Bots dont chat back ;).

cardmj1
08-04-2008, 06:21 PM
Leave Qwijymart alone or face the wrath of the clerics of Khyber!

stoc
08-04-2008, 06:35 PM
Qwijymart, or rather those behind it do us on khyber a service. We all appreciate it and would not know what to do without it. I don't know how many times I have heard "where is Qwijy when you need him?" although this is usually at the odd hours someone is not maning the post. Thanx to all those that operate Qwijymart. :D

Saaluta
08-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Shop smart, shop Qwijymart! Qwijymart is highly endorsed by Saaluta and all her sisters :)

Saal :)

boldarblood
08-04-2008, 08:00 PM
So... Not being on Khyber, I am befuddled about what this is. Is it just more convenient than running around to different houses for stuff? Because the prices look about the same (if not higher) than I pay on my non-haggle toons.

Also, Turbine has endorsed this with it's thread of the week, and yet it seems to be violating the policy against bots, or macros at least... What is this magic that changes the laws of nature (or man)?

And, do you not know the power of the franchise? If this business is so successful, why has it not branched out to other worlds. I am sure the people on Sarlona would buy from the Qwijymart just as many came up with $6.00 for a Big Mac when it first arrived. (Oh wait, that was Russia... Sarlona, Russia. Meh. About the same.)

Cheers!

Not a bot or macro, second account. Its live people you deal with. Sells all your healing supplies cheaper than you can buy unless you had your own haggle bot. They have been a great service to Khyber.

Aranticus
08-04-2008, 08:06 PM
Qwijy is the best invention..... after DDO :D

orcbanian
08-04-2008, 10:54 PM
I should start something like this on Ghallanda... now I just need a hagglebot...

Jay203
08-04-2008, 11:49 PM
I should start something like this on Ghallanda... now I just need a hagglebot...

careful, maintaining it is a lot harder than it sounds =)

Kromize
08-05-2008, 12:31 AM
I do find it funny that it is thread of the week tho, considering the thread itself is a month old and the qwijymart is even older(what, about a year and a half now?)...

Completely stole thread of the week away from me...:mad:


:rolleyes:

Amabel
08-05-2008, 12:59 AM
Gtar has recently lowered his prices. You'd have to have a pretty gimpy haggle bot to beat his prices nowadays.

13K or something for a stack of heal scrolls!

Lorien_the_First_One
08-05-2008, 05:33 AM
I do find it funny that it is thread of the week tho, considering the thread itself is a month old and the qwijymart is even older(what, about a year and a half now?)...

Completely stole thread of the week away from me...:mad:

Yup, I'm with you Kromize, that ToTW was not deserved.

Tuney
08-05-2008, 06:26 AM
His prices are about the equliveant of a 58-60 haggle I'd guess. So i'd say Low high end of haggle bar hehe

Arianrhod
08-05-2008, 07:09 AM
If the prices look high to you, you may not be looking at the quantities. Quijy is a great resource for high level characters, but not as useful to lower level folks who can't afford to buy supplies in stacks of 100 no matter how reasonably priced. For players just starting out, Khyber has (or had, haven't seen her as much lately) another fine resource named Mythe ;)

Gtar
08-05-2008, 07:35 AM
Thank you for all of this unexpected attention.

Let me give you some facts and dispell some of the Myth's.

I joined another player in Qwijymart back in November. From what I understand, he inherited a friends account that had a bard character named Qwijy De Bo, and decided to set up a player vendor in the Necropolis before the Vale was released.

At the time, there were no vendors in the Necropolis so it was a convenient place to get supplies at better prices if you weren't haggle specced. At the time Qwijy (he's not a haggle bard) was using a few different players bards as a supplier.

When I joined, I had a 2nd account that was just for mules. I'm a loot ***** at heart and had banks overflowing with gear. I thought it might be handy to flag my 2nd account for 1750 incase I wanted to take my current full roster of capped characters past the 9 toon slot restriction.

I rolled up Gtar, a 28pt haggle bot gimp bard and joined Qwijymart as a partner. The other player (Qwijy) and I just agreed to sell for the same price and not go into competition with each other. At one stage I was Qwijy's supplier. :)

So now I set up in the Market Place and sell supplies. I do this when I'm at work in my real life job or I two box it at home when I'm playing my main account. If I don't serve you right away, it's either because I'm busy in a raid or busy serving a customer in my ral job.

What do I do with the plat? I give away scrolls when I raid. In the early shroud runs, it wasn't uncommon for me to give away 6 stacks.

I give away scrolls when people answer stupid riddles. Sometimes people pretend to pick my pockets so I give them a stack of scrolls for the comedic value.

I go to the harbour and give away plat to low level, unguilded toons.

I've even given hundred's of thousands of plat to Mythe (resident noobie helper) to help new players.

to be continued. Hound raid in progress.

Gearrik
08-05-2008, 07:37 AM
I'm Grohk The Invincible, and I support Qwijy Mart!



SHOP SMART! SHOP QWIJY MART!

Lorien_the_First_One
08-05-2008, 08:09 AM
I joined another player in Qwijymart back in November. From what I understand, he inherited a friends account that had a bard character named Qwijy De Bo, and decided to set up a player vendor in the Necropolis before the Vale was released.

That's great, the character behind the ToTW is a violation of the Turbine TOS (no transferring or sharing accounts allowed!) LMAO!



At the time, there were no vendors in the Necropolis so it was a convenient place to get supplies at better prices if you weren't haggle specced. At the time Qwijy (he's not a haggle bard) was using a few different players bards as a supplier.

When I joined, I had a 2nd account that was just for mules. I'm a loot ***** at heart and had banks overflowing with gear. I thought it might be handy to flag my 2nd account for 1750 incase I wanted to take my current full roster of capped characters past the 9 toon slot restriction.

I rolled up Gtar, a 28pt haggle bot gimp bard and joined Qwijymart as a partner. The other player (Qwijy) and I just agreed to sell for the same price and not go into competition with each other. At one stage I was Qwijy's supplier. :)

So now I set up in the Market Place and sell supplies. I do this when I'm at work in my real life job or I two box it at home when I'm playing my main account. If I don't serve you right away, it's either because I'm busy in a raid or busy serving a customer in my ral job.

What do I do with the plat? I give away scrolls when I raid. In the early shroud runs, it wasn't uncommon for me to give away 6 stacks.

I give away scrolls when people answer stupid riddles. Sometimes people pretend to pick my pockets so I give them a stack of scrolls for the comedic value.

I go to the harbour and give away plat to low level, unguilded toons.

I've even given hundred's of thousands of plat to Mythe (resident noobie helper) to help new players.

to be continued. Hound raid in progress.

The service is legendary and helpful, no doubt about it... still don't get why its ToTW though...

marcosoneghett
08-05-2008, 08:14 AM
I have ACCs on 4 servers, Khyber, Ghallanda, Sarlona and Thelanis. Thats the only server that has a player (or players) providing a haggle service. Gtar even sends stuff by mail, and you can order by mail. The service is great and fast, and most important of all, just.

Gtar
08-05-2008, 08:49 AM
That's great, the character behind the ToTW is a violation of the Turbine TOS (no transferring or sharing accounts allowed!) LMAO!

I'm not sharing an account. I pay for and use both exclusively.

Please don't make stuff up.

Gtar
08-05-2008, 08:51 AM
dbl posted

Harncw
08-05-2008, 09:07 AM
That's great, the character behind the ToTW is a violation of the Turbine TOS (no transferring or sharing accounts allowed!) LMAO!

The service is legendary and helpful, no doubt about it... still don't get why its ToTW though...

Dude take your meds...

These guys deserve a ToTW... They got a ToTW...

Mountains and Molehills!

Gtar
08-05-2008, 09:59 AM
Thank you citizens of Khyber for your support.

Maybe one day citizens from other servers will provide a similar service to what Qwijymart provides for Khyber and they won't have to look at us through green-eyes.

So far I've been approached by 2 different servers. Qwijymart will be expanding to other worlds in the near future.

Talish
08-05-2008, 10:12 AM
Qwijymart is a very valuable service not only do they help players with consumables but I know for a fact that they donate rather large sums of plat regularily to help out those who are new to Khyber. That money goes towards purchasing min lvl 1 equipment and giving new players a few thousand plat to help with consumables while they learn the game. (It also helps them have a better chance at keeping up with veteran players)

Qwijymart has helped develop a strong sense of community on Khyber and made my home world unique among the worlds.

Arianrhod, Mythe is still around. I'm currently renovating my home so barely have enough time to log in with my mains this last month. It makes it difficult to log in for hours at a time with Mythe. She'll be back very soon helping out at the Wavecrest again. :)

Grats Gtar you do so much more than just sell scrolls etc. You provide a gathering place for gossip, you help those new to the server and just by looking at all those from Khyber posting here you both have definitely helped create a sense of community on Khyber. :)

Bladededge123
08-05-2008, 10:31 AM
The Q-mart is a great reasource for all of us Khyber players. It is a nice thing to have on a server my casual self joined up on before it was created (luck of the draw on my part) It is the single best player-providing for other players we have on the Server I would dare to say except that I've not heard of this Mythe character, so that may be just as useful and kind. Personally I think its a great testament to the kindness of someone who is willing to give of his time to help the whole of the player base. The lose of Qwijymart would be a great hit to the Server after all, so much have we come to rely on it (see all the above 'we support our Qwijymart!'

Is it something that you could do for yourself if you had a high-haggle bard? Sure, and such -is- attainable but anyone willing to put in the time, effort and character slot. Yet the majority of us do not have this, so it will remain a great service. As far as expanding to other servers, utterly up to the poeple behind the store obviously :P Still It is a -great- service, so if anyone on another server wanted to take up the same idea, poeple on those servers have the potential to get the same benefit so sure, its a great idea.

Oh and just for the record. I could care less what they do with the cash. As stated it seems they donate all or the vast majority of it :P But honestly? Given the amount of good it does Khyber as a whole, there is little reason to dispute they deserve ever platinum piece they make in profit off the sells :P Go buy yourself a +2 tome or 10 guys, you can always give it away if you want hehe.

HumanJHawkins
08-05-2008, 11:22 AM
Glad to have been corrected on my mistaken "bot" assumption... Sorry about that. I just couldn't believe someone was crazy enough to man the store all day. Lol.

Kudos on a cool service. And FYI, no need to explain how you spend your plat. Frankly, I find it annoying to have to run to house J for scrolls, and elsewhere for other stuff. You could charge a zero haggle price and spend your plat on twinking a personal herd of halflings across 12 personal accounts for self made RAID stampedes and it wouldn't bother me. :-)

(Of course I'm on Sarlona, so pretty much nothing about Quijimart has much chance of bothering me)

NXPlasmid
08-05-2008, 11:24 AM
Qwijymart is awesome! I have been on a few raids and a various quest with Gtar who is a great group player. I also buy supplies from Qwijymart whenever I can. They rock!

teapotdome
08-05-2008, 02:51 PM
and gtar is an all around great guy. besides the free buffs, if he finds out you are using them for something silly he'll point out better options for you.

Jay203
08-05-2008, 05:11 PM
and gtar is an all around great guy. besides the free buffs, if he finds out you are using them for something silly he'll point out better options for you.

something silly eh? what the hell did you do!? =___=;;;

Amabel
08-05-2008, 06:59 PM
Thank you for all of this unexpected attention.

What do I do with the plat? I give away scrolls when I raid. In the early shroud runs, it wasn't uncommon for me to give away 6 stacks.

I give away scrolls when people answer stupid riddles. Sometimes people pretend to pick my pockets so I give them a stack of scrolls for the comedic value.

I go to the harbour and give away plat to low level, unguilded toons.

I've even given hundred's of thousands of plat to Mythe (resident noobie helper) to help new players.

to be continued. Hound raid in progress.

Hey - you've never given me stacks of scrolls even though you know how poor I am!

And quit trolling the forums while you're supposed to be raiding! As if running two accounts wasn't enough you're now also forum lurking whilst doing the Hound and running your fantasy retail outlet?! Sheesh! :D

StarWind_Sunsoar
08-05-2008, 07:18 PM
Kyhber is also home to another lowbie helper. Mrs. Merry Christmas Of the pay it forward guild gives lots of stuff away to help out lowbies

Gtar
08-05-2008, 07:26 PM
Glad to have been corrected on my mistaken "bot" assumption... Sorry about that. I just couldn't believe someone was crazy enough to man the store all day. Lol.

Kudos on a cool service. And FYI, no need to explain how you spend your plat. Frankly, I find it annoying to have to run to house J for scrolls, and elsewhere for other stuff. You could charge a zero haggle price and spend your plat on twinking a personal herd of halflings across 12 personal accounts for self made RAID stampedes and it wouldn't bother me. :-)

(Of course I'm on Sarlona, so pretty much nothing about Quijimart has much chance of bothering me)

Apology accepted. Thanks for bringing so much attention to me though. You can't buy this type of advertising :)

In answer to your original post though :-


Because the prices look about the same (if not higher) than I pay on my non-haggle toons.

60 Haggle will buy you 100 heal scrolls for 135,713gp. I sell them for 135,000gp. If you can get your non-haggle toons to 60 haggle, then kudo's to you.


Also, Turbine has endorsed this with it's thread of the week, and yet it seems to be violating the policy against bots, or macros at least... What is this magic that changes the laws of nature (or man)?

As a few people have pointed out. No bot, no macros. I personally man the toon 12-16 hours a day, almost everyday. Am I mad? Definately.


And, do you not know the power of the franchise? If this business is so successful, why has it not branched out to other worlds. I am sure the people on Sarlona would buy from the Qwijymart just as many came up with $6.00 for a Big Mac when it first arrived. (Oh wait, that was Russia... Sarlona, Russia. Meh. About the same.)

I don't consider this a business and yes it has been quite successful at serving the Khyber Community. Not just supplying the power gamers with cheap supplies, but filtering their plat back down to the grass roots of the community, through Mythe and a few other avenues. I have low level toons including Perma Death ones. I still stay in contact with new players in the harbour, and when I meet some in need, I've been known to gift them 30k - 50k plat in supplies etc.

As for branching out, I won't be personally, but I've had people contact me (even before ToTW) and enquire about setting up their own Qwijymart on their own server. I've been PM'ing with a player on Argonesson for about 2 weeks now.

What I found really interesting is about 2 weeks ago I went to every server and tried to reserve the character names Qwijy & Gtar. I was surprised to find that Qwijy was gone on all servers and Gtar was gone on 3 out of 4. I was however able to reserve Qwijymart the character name and Qwijymart the guild name.

Immitation is the greatest form a flattery as they say. Hopefully people behave themselves on your worlds with character names that have come to command great respect on mine.

And Lorien the First One. If you want to go on a witch hunt, be my guest. I've been reported for being a plat farmer many times. I've even had the Title of DM bestowed on me and accused of banning someone's guildie. Both accusations are false and have ended in embarrasement for the individuals envolved.

And for those of you who don't think I deserve ToTW. You're right. It wasn't even anything I was gunning for. I'm also surprised you even care so much that you openly oppose it. Isn't there bigger issues to worry about?

Kromize
08-05-2008, 08:03 PM
Just so you don't get the wrong impression, the post I made was sarcastic. :rolleyes:

Jadeare
08-05-2008, 08:50 PM
You have all been fooled by a very clever man.

Gtar is a bot, he has a randomized response to many keywords.

The complexity of the scripts would boggle the mind but scripts they are. He is working for the Ju Ala Nobik Company, going by the English Trading name of Plat4U. You may think you have spoken to the person behind the character but again this is a sham. Notice how some of his statements seem quite "abrasive", this is just the clumsiness of the programming. When running with the "alts" of this Chinese Enterprise Bot you will notice statements that always come up such as:

"This is my first time running this" This is stated to compensate for any noobish style errors the bot may make.

"I am a charisma based ranger" Obviously they forgot to filter this out from the bard build. Foolishly giving away the relationship between Gtar and his ranger alts.

"What happens if i fall off?" The character pathing is designed to follow designated characters, when the "leader" is ahead and there is a gap in between there is a possibility the bot will fall down. This happens regularly on quests such as the Hound and VOD.

As the character uses an emulated Australian accent it has attempted to capture the Aussie larakinism by making such statements as:

"Should i range the beerholder?"

"AFK, getting a beer, keep me healed while i get a charge of the reaver"

"Does anyone have a bow? I will range Harry"

So, I have laid bare the facts, i think everyone should start using the report function when they see Gtar, clearly a bot and clearly employed by plat farmers.

You have been warned.

Amabel
08-05-2008, 08:57 PM
Post of the week Kobs. They'll update the scripts now.

DragonKiller
08-05-2008, 09:01 PM
I give away scrolls when people answer stupid riddles. Sometimes people pretend to pick my pockets so I give them a stack of scrolls for the comedic value.

HAHAHAHA! This is true... I remember messing with him in Merida and getting a stack of something or another.

Both Gtar & Qwijy are great people who have saved both me an my wife 1000's and 1000's of plat. Have helped me out (Sending me stuff with no delivery charge through the mail), etc. Great bunch, they have added a new dimension to the game.

Gtar
08-05-2008, 10:31 PM
Very funny Kobs. I liked it.

I am amused however that you think some of my comments whilst playing are abrasive. I guess I can be a little too direct.

It's the unfortunate by-product of pugging 90% of the time.

CDG
08-05-2008, 10:43 PM
Very funny Kobs. I liked it.

I am amused however that you think some of my comments whilst playing are abrasive. I guess I can be a little too direct.

It's the unfortunate by-product of pugging 90% of the time.

LOL nice Kobs - thats gold! :D

My highlight from the script writting, pp farming bot that is Gtar was when he got his 10yr old Daughter on the mic to try to convince PUG'ers he was a kid that bought his account and was running Hound for the first time. You would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for the 6 other people laughing so hard into their mics they could control their characters.....:p

Jadeare
08-05-2008, 11:07 PM
Very funny Kobs. I liked it.

I am amused however that you think some of my comments whilst playing are abrasive. I guess I can be a little too direct.

It's the unfortunate by-product of pugging 90% of the time.

The only thing that surprises me is that you have the patience to pug anymore. Lucky it isn't possible to reach through the screen and strangle people i reckon. You have more bad luck there than most when it comes to pugs i guess.

Rog
08-06-2008, 11:21 AM
Dont knock the Qwijy mart ! on kyber we like to pug and we could not afford the puging way of life without are Qwijy mart. how many clerics would be willing to expand so many resouces without the heal scrolls on the cheap cheap almost any time of day. for a pug group the Qwijy mart is a god sent service ,and if the other servers screw that up they will feel the wraith of kyber!
lunarsong

Jadeare
08-06-2008, 08:11 PM
Awesome,

Khyber has its own Wraith. Wonder what CR it is.

FEAR THE WRAITH OF KHYBER!

DeathbringerGod
01-07-2013, 07:14 PM
I was reading an about the Q-Mart on DDO Wiki, I started playing in 2010 so I think I miss this haha

I want to now what happened? The idea was good!

Arkat
01-25-2013, 12:41 PM
I was reading an about the Q-Mart on DDO Wiki, I started playing in 2010 so I think I miss this haha

I want to now what happened? The idea was good!

The guy who originally started Qwijymart left DDO a couple years ago. There was also another guy (the franchisee - Gtar) who was also part of Qwijymart and he too left the game at around the same time.

Eistander
01-25-2013, 04:56 PM
Aye, when it was available, it was something that just about anyone who knew about it used. It became a staple of sorts. And it was good.

And for the record, HOLY THREAD NECRO!

Ivan_Milic
01-25-2013, 05:30 PM
Yea,nice necro,went to first page and they were admiring 50 haggle,was confused till I saw date.