View Full Version : Do you think in Gold or Plat?
Thrudh
08-04-2008, 07:53 AM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
Borror0
08-04-2008, 08:08 AM
I usually think in gold, and have to make the translation in plat.
The reason everyone posts in plat is that our money is counted in plat in-game. Just think about this yourself, if you're going to open aa chat window, are you going to type 30,000 gp or 3,000 pp? When you open your inventory, is most of your money counted in plat or in gold? Unless you're really, really poor, your money is going to be displayed in plat.
That's the reason, at least, to my understanding.
Kalanth
08-04-2008, 08:09 AM
Its an easy formula to conduct (10 gold = 1 Plat), so I only think in Plat. I hear people talk in gold a lot and it feels like showing off at times. Hearing things like, "I just spent / made 4,000,000 gold today!" certainly sounds more impressive than "I just made / spent 800,000 plat." Bigger numbers tend to create bigger reactions.
Leyoni
08-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Yeah, what he (Borror0) said.
I also think many people type/say plat when they really mean gold. I'm not sure that they really pay attention to the difference in casual conversation (or in posts).
Leyoni
08-04-2008, 08:12 AM
Its an easy formula to conduct (5 gold = 1 Plat), so I only think in Plat. I hear people talk in gold a lot and it feels like showing off at times. Hearing things like, "I just spent / made 4,000,000 gold today!" certainly sounds more impressive than "I just made / spent 800,000 plat." Bigger numbers tend to create bigger reactions.
I'm pretty sure it is 10 of each coin makes 1 of the next higher. OTOH, I have some gold I need to convert to plat so if you'll meet me in the market we can work out a little trade. ;)
Kerrn_Siff
08-04-2008, 08:13 AM
a habit left over from PnP days though most likely where we never saw plat.
Kalanth
08-04-2008, 08:16 AM
I'm pretty sure it is 10 of each coin makes 1 of the next higher. OTOH, I have some gold I need to convert to plat so if you'll meet me in the market we can work out a little trade. ;)
I am a hint rusty on the old conversion system, but I believe you to be right. 4th edition changed it to 100 gold = 1 plat so I have been giving some screwy numbers of late. :)
Aranticus
08-04-2008, 08:18 AM
I am a hint rusty on the old conversion system, but I believe you to be right. 4th edition changed it to 100 gold = 1 plat so I have been giving some screwy numbers of late. :)
bah! my dnd toons never carry coins! gems ftw! :D
Dawnblade
08-04-2008, 08:55 AM
I think in gold as well. It's probably out of habit. Most other games around use gold. It'll probably take me a while to get used to saying plat.
TehSilence
08-04-2008, 09:02 AM
Its an easy formula to conduct (5 gold = 1 Plat), so I only think in Plat.
<...dies>
I had to go confirm that it was 10 gold to 1 plat. For a minute there I thought I was giving away half my money on every purchase. Or getting half more on every purchase... I don't know which. :0
-Silence
Samadhi
08-04-2008, 09:09 AM
Definitely plat
Leyoni
08-04-2008, 09:20 AM
bah! my dnd toons never carry coins! gems ftw! :D
In PnP this was always the case. Gems were much more valuable, retained their value across borders and varying monetary systems, and were lighter. Standard behavior was to keep only as much of the local coin as was needed and to convert everything else into gems.
hydra_ex
08-04-2008, 09:29 AM
You mean your DMs never let you convert gold to plat? :D
Definitely plat, makes me feel richer. Hey, I can afforc that 4 million gold item... no wait... thats only 400k plat.
branmakmuffin
08-04-2008, 09:31 AM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
Gold.
But oddly, the AH default is to post stuff using plat, but then show the price in gold. I think that's how some stuff gets priced at 10x the poster's intention: they think they're pricing it in gold, not plat.
Mithran
08-04-2008, 09:33 AM
When I'm referring to AH prices, I use the gp denomination because that's how the prices are listed, but when I'm thinking in terms of the prices of Heal Scrolls, Raise Dead Scrolls, and Teleportation Scrolls, I think in terms of pp.
Noctus
08-04-2008, 09:46 AM
In Gold.
Because of my Pen&Paper heritage.
Samadhi
08-04-2008, 09:58 AM
Actually, the more I think about this, I really do most of AH thoughts in terms of 10kpp. If they added rupees or something where one = 10kpp; that would be my ideal scale.
Cedrica-the-Bard
08-04-2008, 10:02 AM
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
Maybe because that's how it's sold? :eek:
I am so getting flamed for that... :p
Amaras
08-04-2008, 10:11 AM
Plat
I don't say 800,000 pp either.. I just say 800k
Dawnblade
08-04-2008, 10:14 AM
Plat
I don't say 800,000 pp either.. I just say 800k
That would confuse the heck out of me. I would assume you were talking about 800k gp.
trptim
08-04-2008, 10:21 AM
I tend to think in gold
When I look at my inventory and see numbers > 100,000 in plat, I am happy, cause I have over a million gold
However, I don't call them Gold Farmers :D
Rav'n
08-04-2008, 10:29 AM
I do the same... 'think' in plat... but never say plat....which confuses the heck out of some of my guildies.
Easiest way to fix this. All of you 'gold' thinkers.... send me your Plat. (Care of Ravn on Argo...) then continue counting your gold.
REally... I'm just trying to help you here.
I think in Silver because I'm lame :(
DoctorWhofan
08-04-2008, 03:52 PM
9 clerics = gold standard. Plat farmers are Plat cuz they are richer than me.
Lorien_the_First_One
08-04-2008, 04:30 PM
personally I prefer electrum
ShaeNightbird
08-04-2008, 05:06 PM
Copper. I'm a Cleric. Can you spare a few, kind sir? ;)
GlassCannon
08-04-2008, 05:43 PM
Plat. I never have more than 10k left after logging a character out. Ever.
I think in the largest increment because the rest is decimals.
Grimdiegn
08-04-2008, 06:20 PM
Plat. The only place I make myself think gold in on the AH.
geoffhanna
08-04-2008, 06:33 PM
There's gold in this game?
branmakmuffin
08-04-2008, 06:47 PM
There's gold in this game?
Yeah, it falls out of crates and barrels in WW, but for some stupid reason, the game labels it "copper" and assigns it 1/100th its actual value.
Scholar
08-04-2008, 06:53 PM
I have thought in terms of platinum for quite some time. When I hear someone talk in terms of gold, I always wonder if they are new. Heck, I have 3 clerics and would hate to think of my costs in terms that add another digit... ;)
sirgog
08-05-2008, 01:08 AM
I think in terms of kPP, so an item on the AH that is listed at 1 million gold I think of as 100 kPP.
Prices and player wealth are so inflated in this game that kPP is the only sensible denomination for moderate sized trades. (Extremely good items instead have values in MPP).
shane1122
08-05-2008, 03:06 AM
When I hear someone talk in terms of gold, I always wonder if they are new.
Actually it is the opposite. I think in gold because I am old. Same reason that in my mind Casters are Magic Users, Rogues are Thieves, "Toons" are characters, and the proper order is Str, Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Cha.
Based on the lingo they use, it is easy to tell the "D and D players" from the "Video Gamers."
Video Gamers talk about Plat, DPS, gimped builds, rerolls, respecs, etc
D and D players wonder where the Illusionist and Bards are and when robots becoame a D and D playable race.
-Shane
Deaths_ward
08-05-2008, 03:42 AM
Actually it is the opposite. I think in gold because I am old. Same reason that in my mind Casters are Magic Users, Rogues are Thieves, "Toons" are characters, and the proper order is Str, Int, Wis, Dex, Con, Cha.
Based on the lingo they use, it is easy to tell the "D and D players" from the "Video Gamers."
Video Gamers talk about Plat, DPS, gimped builds, rerolls, respecs, etc
D and D players wonder where the Illusionist and Bards are and when robots becoame a D and D playable race.
-Shane
I play pen and paper D&D, but I've made the distinct choice in my mind that this isn't really D&D it's the red headed step child of D&D and the strange abhored monster called 'Creative Licensing', as well as the internet. So while it may function under some of the Dungeons and Dragons rule pretexts it is by far and large not D&D. So I feel perfectly comfortable speaking of DPS, Gimp Builds, Rerolls, and 'uberness' because well it's just easier to integrate.
WorldTraveler
08-05-2008, 03:43 AM
I price things in gold, the actual unit of currency like the dollar, not the ten dollar bill is our unit of currency. I actually thought
that one platinum was five gold when I was new cause of the old conversion system until I did a few sales and realized the
difference in the game.
Kromize
08-05-2008, 05:09 AM
I usually think in gold, and have to make the translation in plat.
Same here... :/
Lorien_the_First_One
08-05-2008, 05:44 AM
D and D players wonder where the Illusionist and Bards are and when robots becoame a D and D playable race.
-Shane
Video game players call them robots....D&D players call them Constructs. And Constructs have been in D&D for quite a long time, about 8ish years as a playable race.
Dawnblade
08-05-2008, 06:39 AM
Video game players call them robots....D&D players call them Constructs. And Constructs have been in D&D for quite a long time, about 8ish years as a playable race.
That's about when the evil WOTC took over then. I haven't played since. I think he was refering to the real old days when TSR was still around. The Golden Age :)
winsom
08-05-2008, 07:18 AM
I think in gold pieces too because that is the denomination that the auction house, brokers and merchants use.
Kalanth
08-05-2008, 07:53 AM
That's about when the evil WOTC took over then. I haven't played since. I think he was refering to the real old days when TSR was still around. The Golden Age :)
But constructs were around then as well, just not sentient constructs. On top of that, if we were really looking to pass blame (while for me its praise) for the idea of the Warforged we should blame contest winner Keith Baker for ever submitting the idea. Thanks to his pitch for Eberron the idea of the Warforged was born. Besides, playin as a sentinet construct is by far the least outlandish thing that WoTC or TSR have ever done. Things like Spelljammer and Thri-Kreen out weigh that pretty heavily, but no one ever talks about D&D In Space or the fact that you could reinact Star Ship Troopers minus the guns (or with the guns if you had the right TSR books).
I have always thought in plat, even back in old TSR editions. It was just easier to do it that way so that my characters were not carrying so much weight on them.
Dawnblade
08-05-2008, 08:33 AM
But constructs were around then as well, just not sentient constructs. On top of that, if we were really looking to pass blame (while for me its praise) for the idea of the Warforged we should blame contest winner Keith Baker for ever submitting the idea. Thanks to his pitch for Eberron the idea of the Warforged was born..
I know constructs have been around but I was responding to the quote that ended with...
about 8ish years as a playable race.
Besides, playin as a sentinet construct is by far the least outlandish thing that WoTC or TSR have ever done. Things like Spelljammer and Thri-Kreen out weigh that pretty heavily, but no one ever talks about D&D In Space or the fact that you could reinact Star Ship Troopers minus the guns (or with the guns if you had the right TSR books).
No one ever talks about those at all:). As far as I know, these worlds were not that popular at all compared to Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, and even Dragonlance or Dark Sun. Then again, I could be wrong.
Kalanth
08-05-2008, 09:13 AM
I know constructs have been around but I was responding to the quote that ended with...
Opportunistic quote. :)
[QUOTE=Dawnblade;1814140]No one ever talks about those at all :). As far as I know, these worlds were not that popular at all compared to Greyhawk, Forgotten Realms, and even Dragonlance or Dark Sun. Then again, I could be wrong.
I do have friends that are in love with Spelljammer and Dark Sun respectively, but yeah they were a part of a dark time at TSR where they scrambled to release anything they could in hopes that it would revive the company. Eberron is a rather popular world these days (no Forgotten Realms, however) and is more of a Pulp Noir kind of high fantasy world. It is less of the traditional Knights in shinning armor kind of world and that is what brings about things like Living Constructs. Just kind of funny to me that people can't accept the idea of a Living Construct and most insist on it to be a robot or android.
Dawnblade
08-05-2008, 10:15 AM
I do have friends that are in love with Spelljammer and Dark Sun respectively, but yeah they were a part of a dark time at TSR where they scrambled to release anything they could in hopes that it would revive the company. Eberron is a rather popular world these days (no Forgotten Realms, however) and is more of a Pulp Noir kind of high fantasy world. It is less of the traditional Knights in shinning armor kind of world and that is what brings about things like Living Constructs. Just kind of funny to me that people can't accept the idea of a Living Construct and most insist on it to be a robot or android.
Well of course I was generalizing when I said "no one". I imagine someone, somewhere has played those less popular titles. I'm not involved in rpg circles these days so I don't know what kind of popularity Eberron has amongst players. From what I see in the boards though, it seems that most (but not all) of the people who prefer Eberron over the older worlds are newer players. And it's my understanding that there is no much else being released by WoTC besides Eberron stuff. So a lot of players will never get to know Greyhawk; not sure if there is any official Forgotten Realms stuff still around.
Regarding constructs, I don't know about other people but I see them as mindless slaves created by wizards for a specific purpose. Much like undeads created by necromancers to guard them. The pinocchio concept that Eberron seems to have adopt towards warforged does not appeal to me. But that doesn't mean it can't appeal to someone else. They'll probably sit right next to dwarves on my list of races I will not play "seriously".
arminius
08-05-2008, 10:23 AM
That's about when the evil WOTC took over then. I haven't played since. I think he was refering to the real old days when TSR was still around. The Golden Age :)
I think of it more as The Platinum Age. ;)
_
shane1122
08-06-2008, 06:53 AM
That's about when the evil WOTC took over then. I haven't played since. I think he was refering to the real old days when TSR was still around. The Golden Age
I never knew any other era beyond the the early hard cover books (Dungeon masters Guide, Players Handbook, Montster Manuel, etc) which were new to us compared to the stuff we started with. Remember that old blue book with the wizard and guy in heavy plate (wielding a bow?) taking on the Red Dragon?
Did not mean to dismiss Warforged. Any good campaign setting should have original aspects that make it unique. I would just rather have seen the "classic" core D&D classes and races instituted before striking out for new ground.
-Shane
I think in Silver because I'm lame :(
Necro bump.
I was noticing that a lot of people are back to the gold standard. Is it because there are a lot of new players who arent' as filthy rich as some old timers?
FYI I've since moved on from silver to platinum. :cool:
7-day_Trial_Monkey
05-19-2010, 06:04 PM
Only in pp. I find it ridiculous that people talk about things in gold in the trade channel.
Big_Russ
05-19-2010, 06:06 PM
Actually, the more I think about this, I really do most of AH thoughts in terms of 10kpp. If they added rupees or something where one = 10kpp; that would be my ideal scale.
This is why the standard currency should be large scales.
dasein18
05-19-2010, 06:09 PM
I think in Electrum.. then covert back to xxk plat. It is a pain.
Timjc86
05-19-2010, 06:10 PM
I think in terms of plat.
Of the two people I play DDO with the most, one thinks in terms of gold and the other bounces back and forth.
MarcusCole
05-20-2010, 01:52 AM
I think in terms of plat, really have no idea why.
ExarKun77
05-20-2010, 01:59 AM
4 currencies are way too much for this game. We could easily get rid of silver and copper or whatever's the last one (i doubt you can buy anything with one copper piece, so get rid of this, plz).
And i think in gold, old habbits ^^
Eleia
05-20-2010, 09:58 AM
The game I spent the most time playing (so far anyway), had everything listed in plat. So...I always think in plat, even in games that only use gold. I use to drive my guildies crazy.
I've always wondered why everything is listed in gold in this game, but we have plat. Did turbine add plat later in the game?
Newtons_Apple
05-20-2010, 10:01 AM
What the hell is gold?
SquelchHU
05-20-2010, 10:06 AM
What the hell is gold?
A shiny rock you can't eat.
Samadhi
05-20-2010, 10:15 AM
been thinking in terms of plat since the level cap was 10. there is no other real value of value.
Mr_Ed7
05-20-2010, 10:15 AM
My second thinks in gp I think in pp...UGH!
Mr_Ed7
05-20-2010, 10:16 AM
Let's do one coin! Good idea!
Psyk0sisS
05-20-2010, 10:24 AM
Plat for sure, I'll always think in the highest form of currency in any situation. If the highest denomination was gold in this game, I'd say gold.
If I have $3 in quarters in my pocket... I dont say "I've got 12 quarters", I say "I've got $3".
Most people will do the same, its quite natural to want to deal with smaller numbers when doing conversions... ;)
gwlech
05-20-2010, 10:28 AM
I think in plat, and I find it aggravating when people talk in gold.
Ashnon
05-20-2010, 10:40 AM
Sure, I'll pile on this necro'd post.
I think in Plat, likely due to 5+ years of EQ where plat is the standard. Even 4 years of WoW couldn't break me of that.
well thats my .002 pp
eveilsor666
06-26-2010, 08:16 AM
I've been thinking in gold ever since I've been playing purely because everything you see around you is written in values of gold. Vendors/Brokers/AH all list thing in gold values. Thinking in platinum is counter-productive because of this.
Now that this is going to change in Update5 I am going to have to get used to thinking in platinum. Once I do, everything in the game will make more financial sense. :)
woundweaver
06-26-2010, 09:01 AM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....hehe, thrudh, then be prepared for a mindblower in a few days....youll have to start thinking in plat after the update.
ive not ever thought in terms of gold. everytime someone quotes a price to me in gold, i feel they are trying to rip me off. once you go plat, you never go back!!
Smexxy
06-26-2010, 09:07 AM
What was the real point of necroing this thread?
Played pnp decades ago. Never saw plat. However, in game I think in plat since that is what our own money gets converted to in the inventory. When I refer to money, I'll always add the pp...drives me nuts when someone says "I spent a 100k on it" with no label. Was that 100kpp or 100kgp? I usually assume pp, unless I start to see "million(s)."
salmag
06-26-2010, 10:11 AM
Gold, since the beginning of dnd.
Sinni
06-26-2010, 10:23 AM
i think in gold, mainly because everything you buy or sell is in gold
but most people use plat so i think the coming change from ingame prices in gold to plat is a good thing, so everyone will think in the same "currency"
KainUK
06-26-2010, 10:38 AM
Gold for me, cos of the Pen'n'Paper game.
Yes we got plat in it, and our DM allowed us to convert gold to plat (I used to do gold to gems... lighter and universally accepted!), but if you wanted to buy any items out of the PHB or DMG, it was -all- listed in gold for the expensive stuff.
AyumiAmakusa
06-26-2010, 10:40 AM
Gold, because I like to feel rich. On a side note, reviving a 2008 thread? Who has time for these things...
Monsoon28
06-26-2010, 10:46 AM
"I love gold!"
ristretto93
06-26-2010, 10:57 AM
I think of it more as The Platinum Age. ;)
_
You totally took my joke ;)
kingvidiot
06-26-2010, 11:17 AM
Copper......
Stormwine
06-26-2010, 11:23 AM
I really get con fused because my mind is set on dollars!
Srozbun
06-26-2010, 11:26 AM
plat
but I also don't think in terms of dollars I think in terms of Hamiltons ($10s) ;)
Bunker
06-26-2010, 11:33 AM
Large Scales. Like the Diablo II days of old, and bidding on items using the SoJ as currency. I feel the Large Devil Scale will soon be the SoJ of DDO.
Srozbun
06-26-2010, 11:38 AM
Large Scales. Like the Diablo II days of old, and bidding on items using the SoJ as currency. I feel the Large Devil Scale will soon be the SoJ of DDO.
Oh a fellow D2 player. I was a bit of a D2 power gamer before switching to DDO. Nowadays it's all high runes as currency. Given the DDO economy of scales, stones, epic scrolls, red scales, it translates quite well ;)
Molotov
06-26-2010, 11:41 AM
i think in gold too
ReaperAlexEU
06-26-2010, 01:49 PM
i mostly play dwarves, i think in gold ;)
Dilbon
06-26-2010, 02:05 PM
Definitely gold. I once offered 25k gold for an item and then I wondered why I can't put 25000 gold in trade window. Turned out I didn't have 25000 gold pieces so I had to use 2500 plat.
Merrelll
06-26-2010, 02:21 PM
I am soo poor I think in electrum.
GhoulsTouch
06-26-2010, 02:32 PM
I R New Gld Pls...
(Cryptic message for any chum who has been to some of the places I have)
HumanJHawkins
06-26-2010, 03:37 PM
I think in copper, because the max money any toon can carry is 2^32 copper pieces. And I don't want anyone rounding that off and shorting me my copper!
If you think in silver, you lose 6 copper (a beer!)
If you think in gold, you lose 96 copper (room and board in a nice place!!!)
If you think in plat, you lose 296 copper (a good hook... um... I mean a lavish party for a small group of friends!!!!!)
:D
AbsynthMinded
06-26-2010, 03:50 PM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
I think in terms of Cheese and Pie.
To be quite honest I wish the DEVs would make coin have weight and require storing massive coin wealth at Banks. Further add a Gem category to personal wealth as that was what players over a tabletop had to do to maintain portable wealth of significant value. This is of coarse beyond the conversion of wealth into ever better equipment through master craftsmen in the realm.
To seriously answer the question at a certain point I stopped seeing gold as the money standard. All I see is plat now. When once I winced at the concept of spending 10s and 100s of thousands or millions of gold, I now only feel even the slightest concern when spending over 100 thousand plat.
This is my personal view and given that I have met players who claim to buy millions of plat a month though farmers, no merits can be given to the actual value of anything in the game anymore. On the flip side, of late the value of everything on my servers AH seems to be at bargain basement prices. Where as once I could count on certain items and effects to fetch truly impressive amounts now they are ridiculously cheap.
Modinator0
06-26-2010, 04:00 PM
i dont really know why copper, silver, and plat even exist. almost everything is denominated in gold. once you get past say, korthos, everything costs at least a gold, and pretty much every money drop is at least 10 silver
khaldan
06-27-2010, 03:15 AM
I think in plat, mostly because i don't think I've ever had more than 50k gold, while easily having millions of plat.
Kromize
06-27-2010, 04:51 AM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
Plat is the most expensive currency in DnD. However, there is a flaw in the design that makes it only a 10:1 ration(the same ration for gold to silver, and silver to copper as well. With this being true, in a game where most items start out being priced in gold, it makes me wonder why they even put copper or silver in. In this case, the only times you ever have to actually worry about stuff in terms of gold, in the first few levels, you you need so much gold to buy it. But when it get's into the thousands, and tens of thousands, it becomes easier to calculate when using plat as a base. Because when I open my inventory, I don't see 3, 560, 000 gold, I see, 356,000 plat. Gold is much less significant, and silver and copper don't even come into thought.
Trefor
07-01-2010, 11:16 AM
Gold from PnP days. It just doesn't feel right with platinum as the standard.
Asketes
07-01-2010, 11:20 AM
For the longest time i've thought in plat, and wanted the AH changed to pp.
BUT NOW: i'm so used to taking a digit off the gold 100,000gp = 10,000pp that now I am seeing 10,000pp and taking off a digit out of habit.
I bought 20 taps for 150k pp, thinking it was 15kpp..
haha what a tard I am. I suppose we'll get used to it.
WHAT REALLY IRKS ME:
the DB's that are taking advantage of it, and adding a zero to let us idiots pay 10x more than the real value is
Fomori
07-01-2010, 11:20 AM
As an old school pnp player, most games are in the gold system so I am used to thinking in GOLD.
I can make the transitions to plat as need, but its been an interesting concept to make sure when I am looking at auctions to make sure I remember to multiply by 10 before I go 'wow thats a GREAT deal'.
Thelmallen
07-01-2010, 11:50 AM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
I still think in terms of GP, not PP or 'plat'. That's what I get for playing PnP for the last 27 years!
hecate355
07-01-2010, 12:16 PM
gold here, cause it always felt like middle point
Chazzie
07-01-2010, 12:34 PM
I think in the terms of gold,then covert to plat this change of everything now listed as plat Has thrown me off a bit but like everything else Ill adjust over time. Back in my days of AD&D PnP Days if we found plat ,It was like Pulling a Boss Beater,Happen once in awhile and it made our night,I do miss Electrum from them days and I understand they trashed it in a version of PnP ,,,"You open a chest and find 5750 (Pause) Electrum" "OOOooo-that bites thought you were going to say gold" LOL "Electrum Junk" LOL but we still took it if we could carry it :)
Alabore
07-01-2010, 01:02 PM
Most games?
Gold.
AH when selling?
Plat.
Mockduck
07-01-2010, 01:07 PM
I've long thought in Plat. I realize that from a PnP experience it's not right, really, but since Plat flows so plentiful in DDO it's just easier for me to think in terms of the number on the left of the money bar. I'm cool with a gold standard though.
kitsune_ko
07-01-2010, 01:48 PM
I always think in gold, even when dealing in plat my first though it "How much gold is that?". I will eventually get used to the new standard I guess, though some warning to the change would have been nice. And I am a little unimpressed that AH there is a lot of equipment that is listed in plat for what they should be selling in gold.
I would hope that its more people not used to the new system when posting, and not trying to suck in those not used to the new standard.
Kit
systemstate
07-01-2010, 01:51 PM
I think in gold. Most of my guildies seem to think in gold as well.
Saith-Deri
07-01-2010, 02:12 PM
Gold from PnP days. It just doesn't feel right with platinum as the standard.This. But now that the AH has fully switched to plat, I'll have to re-train my brain.
bringjoy
07-01-2010, 02:21 PM
GOLD -- and woe is me with the new "all-plat" system:(
moops
07-01-2010, 02:21 PM
Plat. . and usually its "Ill offer you 200k or 300k"
Like the other posters, when I meet people who talk in gold i always tend to think that they are new or people that have never had any high value items to trade or sell.
AH displays in plat as well as vendors now, so no more confusion:)
My Last DM in pnp converted all our gold to plat as well.
MeliCat
07-01-2010, 02:25 PM
plat
and then confuse myself on the AH.... (it's hard to multiply by 10!!!!)
DarkAlchemist
07-01-2010, 02:25 PM
I find it interesting that almost all posts on the forums discuss item values in terms of plat...
Am I the only one that thinks in gold? It seems strange to me that everyone else thinks in plat, when the game itself does EVERYTHING in gold... Selling/buying from vendors and on the Auction House is all done in gold... so it seems natural to me to think in gold...
But the vast majority of people on these forums only reference value in plat....
I find it interesting, and wonder how that social convention came about....
I think in gold and this new system I will have to get used to.
Luis_Velderve
07-01-2010, 02:33 PM
Since my first festival I think plat. I suspect that most traders think in pp too.
KoboldKiller
07-01-2010, 02:34 PM
I always thought in gold however I will concede the new system is actually easier and quicker to determine cost.
I think in gold. I think its rediculous to say that because the highest denomination is plat that this is how we should price stuff. In RL we dont say something costs 50 one hundred dollars. We say it costs 5000 dollars.
D&D is all about the GP.
Aurora1979
07-01-2010, 02:38 PM
I think in gold. I think its rediculous to say that because the highest denomination is plat that this is how we should price stuff. In RL we dont say something costs 50 one hundred dollars. We say it costs 5000 dollars.
D&D is all about the GP.
^^ This.
It works for sterling too.
Donnie
07-01-2010, 02:40 PM
Plat
Darkrok
07-01-2010, 02:40 PM
I think in terms of gold which has made the auction house look really cheap lately. :P
Maegin
07-01-2010, 02:45 PM
a habit left over from PnP days though most likely where we never saw plat.
this.
Lleren
07-01-2010, 02:51 PM
I tend to think in Plat, and convert down to Gold. Training from other MMO's
When playing pen and paper I think in Gold.
Eladiun
07-01-2010, 02:51 PM
D&D is all about the GP.
Only because no DM would inflate their economy like this. I'm fine with plat. Counting in Gold was just useless.
Dredmantis
07-01-2010, 02:59 PM
in plat, ironicaly so many years of autocalculating has made it hard to adjust.
Hendrik
07-01-2010, 03:06 PM
I think in Cheetos.
Yea, I'm screwed.
:o
Uranium_Empobrecido
07-01-2010, 03:10 PM
Gold, mid an low level toons use gold as reference to purchase goods.
rdasca
07-01-2010, 03:25 PM
Gold, things priced in plat just seems silly to me.
Autolycus
07-01-2010, 04:40 PM
I think in gold. I think its rediculous to say that because the highest denomination is plat that this is how we should price stuff. In RL we dont say something costs 50 one hundred dollars. We say it costs 5000 dollars.
D&D is all about the GP.
Exactly. I always think in gold.
I had gotten used to adjusting to the AH pricing madness. Now, I'm finding it takes me longer to compare prices at both the AH and vendors, as I always mentally convert everything to GP for comparison.
samthedagger
07-01-2010, 04:41 PM
I think in plat, and I'm glad the standard is now plat. Makes it easier to shop the AH and there is far less confusion on the trade channel when listing prices. It was mostly newbies that used the gold standard anyway, but still, it helps.
Hokonoso
07-01-2010, 04:48 PM
seeing as i can't spend gold i talk/think/everything in plat. this new change is warranted and good imo. otherwise they should have removed plat alltogether and just stuck with gold (like WoW).
GlorkTheInvader
07-01-2010, 04:51 PM
When it comes to talking money, I am bilingual.
Club'in
07-01-2010, 04:52 PM
Electrum
Arvess
07-01-2010, 04:58 PM
I think in Whopper Combos. When we first started doing this, the game would cost 5 Whopper Combos. Nowdays, its less than 3.
Otherwise, gold.
olBillDoor
07-01-2010, 10:20 PM
I think in gold. I think its rediculous to say that because the highest denomination is plat that this is how we should price stuff. In RL we dont say something costs 50 one hundred dollars. We say it costs 5000 dollars.
D&D is all about the GP.
I respectfully disagree with this statement on several levels.
First off $1 and $100 dollar bills are the same base money type, the dollar. Not to mention the fact that it is not uncommon to refer to $1500 as fifteen hundred dollars. Either way you say it though it is still referring to the same denomination the dollar.
A better comparison would be the dollar to the cent:
Here in the states we have two base money types (really) dollars and cents ($1 =100 cents). We general use the largest base money type to speak of and keep track of money (in this case the dollar); ex. we don't normally say 10,000 cents but $10. Even if you had 10,000 cents if you took it to the bank and deposited it they would list your account as $10 not 10,000 cents. Same thing in DDO, you sell something for some GP, and it shows up in your inventory as PP, plus the GP change.
Lastly most people, organizations use the larges denomination that makes seance for what they are dealing with. For example when talking about the purchase price of cars use thousands of dollars. Large corporations talk in the millions of dollars. The government talks in billions of dollars. The lesser (base) denomination of the dollar in small amounts (dollars, hundreds of dollars, and thousands of dollars respectively) barely move the monetary needle; those small sums are rounded into the larger total.
I think in thousands of PP, because until something costs more than 1000PP I don't even think about the cost*, everything less that that is lost in the noise.
*Now when I first started that was a different story.
defender7
07-02-2010, 04:16 AM
a habit left over from PnP days though most likely where we never saw plat.
....which this game was supposed to emulate. The transitions made(plat, no more d6 etc) take the game further away from D&D and closer to "wow" or whatever generic game, sadly. I see no end in sight to the reduction of the core game. Time to hire some Bioware apprentices, or hire a seance expert to consult Gary before the game is known as " Funyuns and debits online". Where the hell are they going with this? Whats next, a roller coaster at his memorial payable with turbine points? Bleh.
vVAnjilaVv
07-02-2010, 05:27 AM
I'm still getting used to the change, but I am starting to like it all being in Plat, instead of gold. Plat is the highest form of currency, once you get used to the conversion, it actually seems to go a lot faster.....besides is it really that big a deal to simply add a zero?
The only thing that is still tripping me up is when I go to buy something on the AH and see something like 250,000 total next to something like a Metalline of Pure Good and think...." WOW...that's it?!?!"....and then it sinks in, that's the plat price not the gold price LOL.
hdogan
07-02-2010, 06:14 AM
Always in GOLD.
phillymiket
07-02-2010, 06:54 AM
I think in Plat.
I always thought in gold from PnP days. We didn't even bother using plat.
I figured it was like plat in RL, a rarer metal. How often do you see plat chains and watches?
(actually, like the earlier person stated, carting around gems was the way to go because of weight. "A tankard of ale good sir! Here's ten years wages. What do you mean you can't break that?")
But when I started DDO I made the mental conversion to plat so if I made an error it would be the lesser error.
(cheaper then I thought instead of 10x more then I bargained for)
I am glad they changed it so eventually we will all be on the same page.
Now I'm used to plat.
It's just easier for me.
I'm pretty sure one less digit takes up less space on my biological hard drive.
Which is good because I have some more episodes of "Captain Scarlet" to download.
Captain Scarlet! - Captain Scarlet! - Da D-Da D-Duh - Da D-Da D-Duh
defender7
07-04-2010, 04:46 AM
I guess my response should have been do the devs think, or is it mostly the marketing dept. The trends point to the latter.
-1 to the flavor of the game.
LordRavnos
07-04-2010, 06:08 AM
I think in terms of spices and raw goods, but I think I might be outdated just a bit * makes some calculations on his abacus*
lord_odin
07-04-2010, 06:37 AM
I think in gold, even after the update, i still transfer all the values into gold. Rarely do i even speak in plat. terms. However i do like how everything is finally listed off of the highest value, wether its your items or in the AH. However since the update i feel some of the items have really gone sky high in the AH, which im sure they'll come back down to what they were in time.
cdbd3rd
07-04-2010, 06:54 AM
I'm still getting used to the change, but I am starting to like it all being in Plat, instead of gold. Plat is the highest form of currency, once you get used to the conversion, it actually seems to go a lot faster.....besides is it really that big a deal to simply add a zero?
The only thing that is still tripping me up is when I go to buy something on the AH and see something like 250,000 total next to something like a Metalline of Pure Good and think...." WOW...that's it?!?!"....and then it sinks in, that's the plat price not the gold price LOL.
This ^^.
I had even psyched myself for the change before I went window shopping - and STILL constantly did double takes when I 'd see some good piece of debris with a "WOW! THAT'S a Low Price!" (everyone else hate that commercial as much as I do?) kind of price on it... :rolleyes:
More window shopping, more brain-scrunching. It'll sink in eventually. Maybe. :o
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