Point of the Shopping Cart in Vendors?

[Tat2Freak]

If while looking through vendors wares someone can come in and take something that you have put into your "cart", whats the point of it?

[Zenako]

I'm guessing it works that way for a few reasons. The stuff in your buy window are just flags to the items in the vendors listing. If you buy, those flags transfer to your character. If those items were "held" by you on "lay-away" so to speak, it would be possible to grab everything in an inventory and horde it for yourself or your friends, until you wanted to buy it or log off. This keeps it a bit more open to all.


PS - looks like you got a few takers on your "die to enter" reaver run the other night....

[Angelus_dead]

If while looking through vendors wares someone can come in and take something that you have put into your "cart", whats the point of it?
It's a user-interface mechanic to allow the player to divide the purchasing process into two steps, so that selecting the item you want is a separate action from finalizing the exchange. That allows an important opportunity to verify that your choice was correct before loot changes hands.

[Tat2Freak]

It's a user-interface mechanic to allow the player to divide the purchasing process into two steps, so that selecting the item you want is a separate action from finalizing the exchange. That allows an important opportunity to verify that your choice was correct before loot changes hands.

But if your standing in line looking through your cart and some A-Hole walks up and pulls an item out while your making sure you got the right stuff...how is that ok?

[Angelus_dead]

But if your standing in line looking through your cart and some A-Hole walks up and pulls an item out while your making sure you got the right stuff...how is that ok?
That's an invalid question, as it presupposes facts about the nature of the other customer about which you have no information.

[AmsterdamHeavy]

I got burned by this for the first time in the last couple weeks. Took me a moment to figure out what happened, as I was continuing through the list looking for more potential buys.

I see both sides. I understand why it works this way, and believe me, it will never happen to me again.

On the other hand, I see what Tat is saying. If I am "holding" an item, waiting to "check out" and pay, perhaps browsing the tabloids, and someone else takes said item from my basket and then goes to another line, ya feel a little....robbed I guess.

[Oreg]

I got burned by this for the first time in the last couple weeks. Took me a moment to figure out what happened, as I was continuing through the list looking for more potential buys.

I see both sides. I understand why it works this way, and believe me, it will never happen to me again.

On the other hand, I see what Tat is saying. If I am "holding" an item, waiting to "check out" and pay, perhaps browsing the tabloids, and someone else takes said item from my basket and then goes to another line, ya feel a little....robbed I guess.

Robbed, yes but hardly an A-Hole as he suggests. I mean the buyer doesn't know you are considering it. It isn't flagged as being looked at by someone else. He should direct his anger accordingly.

[Kromize]

That's an invalid question, as it presupposes facts about the nature of the other customer about which you have no information.

It's not invalid. If this is supposed to be a mechanic to be sure you have what you want, why does it let others just go ahead and buy it while it's in your f'n cart? Especially if they're paying the same as you...

And doesn't it clear your cart when you close the window, if not, why not?

To prevent people from walking in, hording every item in store until they look through, make a maximum of 10 items in your cart...you can buy more then 10 of course, but just make a max for that purpose...

:/ :cool:



Robbed, yes but hardly an A-Hole as he suggests. I mean the buyer doesn't know you are considering it. It isn't flagged as being looked at by someone else. He should direct his anger accordingly.
Why are people talking/arguing over if the other person is an a-hole or not instead of talking about the real problem? ~_~

[branmakmuffin]

If while looking through vendors wares someone can come in and take something that you have put into your "cart", whats the point of it?
"Vendors" have an unlimited supply of the items they sell, so you clearly are confused about the difference between "brokers" and "vendors."

One reason they probably do it is so you can't hold the item in question while you chat your guildies to run some cash to you. If it were a real merchant and you walked in and picked up an item and said "I'd like to buy this, but I don't have the cash. Will you wait 5 minutes while my friend brings me some?" I can see the merchant saying "Sure, but if someone else walks in with my price in 4 minutes, it's his."

[Oreg]

Why are people talking/arguing over if the other person is an a-hole or not instead of talking about the real problem? ~_~

Duly chastised....restart the thread with a plea to Turbine to change the mechanic and I will jump on board. As it is, the anger is directed towards the player who buys the item and not Turbine.

[branmakmuffin]

Duly chastised....restart the thread with a plea to Turbine to change the mechanic and I will jump on board. As it is, the anger is directed towards the player who buys the item and not Turbine.
Whose anger is directed at the player who buys the item? Your anger? Anyone directing anger at the person who "robs" the item from the browser is pointlessly directing his or her anger. As someone else pointed out, the purchaser has no way of knowing that the browser has the item in his or her shopping cart.

[Oreg]

Whose anger is directed at the player who buys the item? Your anger? Anyone directing anger at the person who "robs" the item from the browser is pointlessly directing his or her anger. As someone else pointed out, the purchaser has no way of knowing that the browser has the item in his or her shopping cart.

LOL, that someone else was me. My whole point is that calling the purchaser an "A-hole" is misdirected anger.

[branmakmuffin]

LOL, that someone else was me. My whole point is that calling the purchaser an "A-hole" is misdirected anger.
Oh, OK. Then I misunderstood your last post. Sorry.

[Dracolich]

OP instead of gathering things in the buy window while you shop. If the item is so important to you buy it fast and dont let it marinade in your d@mn cart. There is nobody to blame but yourself for continuing to mull over the rest of the items on the vendor. The mechanic is there because people complained about accidently double clicking on the wrong item and buying it. Your shopping cart annalogy is very weak.

[Kreaper]

OP instead of gathering things in the buy window while you shop. If the item is so important to you buy it fast and dont let it marinade in your d@mn cart. There is nobody to blame but yourself for continuing to mull over the rest of the items on the vendor. The mechanic is there because people complained about accidently double clicking on the wrong item and buying it. Your shopping cart annalogy is very weak.

Assumptions.

This happened to me just a few days ago with a Maladroit of Bonebreaking warhammer. I clicked on it, it went into my cart, it vanished. Someone else bought it just that fast.


Oreg, he said A-hole to add color to the story/comment. Quit reading into it.

The shopping carts should secure the items for you for a short period of time. Two minutes perhaps. That would fix this problem.

[cdbd3rd]

I've wondered about this before, as I also (used to) hold items in my cart (or Purchase Confirmation Window... ;) ) til I browsed the list. Reason being, I would only burn one skill boost getting those few extra gp shaved off the price. ;)

Whether it changes or not, will wait and see -- but doubt it. Until then, it's grab & pay for me from now on.


editted for humor. :D

[Angelus_dead]

The shopping carts should secure the items for you for a short period of time. Two minutes perhaps. That would fix this problem.
There is no problem here, except that some players have invalid expectations.

What happened is a player wanted the item for the listed plat, and he got it. It didn't happen to be you, but that's fine. You snooze, you lose: to change how the system works would be more unfair to the other player. You should not be able to hold items away from other players getting them, and then put it back as if you don't want it. To do so would make the broker system less entertaining.

And of course, it would also consume programmer time for no benefit.

[Angelus_dead]

The mechanic is there because people complained about accidently double clicking on the wrong item and buying it. Your shopping cart annalogy is very weak.
That's obviously correct, but for people who can't tell, I'll explain with a detailed example.

Ten players are standing around a broker with 3 items: crossbow, dagger, and sickle. You want to buy the the dagger, so you double click on it... BUT, at that same time, another player sold a club to the broker. It is received by the list before your mouse clicks are handled, and it pushes the dagger down out of the way, so that through no fault of your own you've bought the stupid club instead.

That is the kind of problem the "shopping cart" interface solves: it makes the user interface for buying and selling more accurate. It doesn't and shouldn't be a way for players to reserve an item they want so they can consider buying it later. If you wanted it so much, you should have clicked "BUY"... to let you hold it while you ponder is unfair to the other players who are also willing to pay for it.

[GlassCannon]

If while looking through vendors wares someone can come in and take something that you have put into your "cart", whats the point of it?

It's not a 'cart'. It is a Purchase Confirmation window. If you see something in the vendor you like, buy it immediately. Do not buy it later, as if it is a nice item I will personally snatch the thing up for myself or a guildmate.

[Tat2Freak]

Assumptions.

This happened to me just a few days ago with a Maladroit of Bonebreaking warhammer. I clicked on it, it went into my cart, it vanished. Someone else bought it just that fast.


Oreg, he said A-hole to add color to the story/comment. Quit reading into it.

The shopping carts should secure the items for you for a short period of time. Two minutes perhaps. That would fix this problem.

Oh nice...some one with a brain...you are right that it was added to "spice" the story..I like the time limit idea...great job!!!

[Tat2Freak]

"Vendors" have an unlimited supply of the items they sell, so you clearly are confused about the difference between "brokers" and "vendors."

One reason they probably do it is so you can't hold the item in question while you chat your guildies to run some cash to you. If it were a real merchant and you walked in and picked up an item and said "I'd like to buy this, but I don't have the cash. Will you wait 5 minutes while my friend brings me some?" I can see the merchant saying "Sure, but if someone else walks in with my price in 4 minutes, it's his."

Bran I have stayed away from you, I suggest you do the same...as it is I call them the House D vendor, the House K vendor, etc, I could care less what the "Official" name is, everyone got the point yet you need to point out the obvious...GOOD JOB! Have a cookie.

[Tat2Freak]

Robbed, yes but hardly an A-Hole as he suggests. I mean the buyer doesn't know you are considering it. It isn't flagged as being looked at by someone else. He should direct his anger accordingly.

Learn from the Kreaper

[ahpook]

It's not invalid. If this is supposed to be a mechanic to be sure you have what you want, why does it let others just go ahead and buy it while it's in your f'n cart?
It's an invalid question because it is entirely likely that it was in the other guys cart FIRST. So who was the ahole in that scenario? Perhaps the request should be "Please don't show me things in the broker window that are already in another player's cart". Does the request looks as attractive when seen from that perspective?

[Tat2Freak]

It's an invalid question because it is entirely likely that it was in the other guys cart FIRST. So who was the ahole in that scenario? Perhaps the request should be "Please don't show me things in the broker window that are already in another player's cart". Does the request looks as attractive when seen from that perspective?

Yeah actually it does...cause it still solves the (my) problem....good idea!!!

[branmakmuffin]

Bran I have stayed away from you, I suggest you do the same...as it is I call them the House D vendor, the House K vendor, etc, I could care less what the "Official" name is, everyone got the point yet you need to point out the obvious...GOOD JOB! Have a cookie.
If you think it's not important to distinguish between vendors and brokers, you are mistaken. They operate differently. Don't you think it's important to help others (new player, perhaps) understand the difference?

No, you probably don't.


The shopping carts should secure the items for you for a short period of time. Two minutes perhaps. That would fix this problem.
No, it would not, because someone would want to hold it for 2:01.

Now, perhaps the interfaces should have a warning "Items in your 'cart' can still be viewed in the broker's inventory and purchased by other players, so don't dawdle if you really want it." That would solve the problem.

[Tat2Freak]

If you think it's not important to distinguish between vendors and brokers, you are mistaken. They operate differently. Don't you think it's important to help others (new player, perhaps) understand the difference? <--Here

No, you probably don't.


You probally would have gotten a good response had you stopped there. As is you just continue to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, exactly what/why your here. If you really want to talk, lets just link up in-game and I can tell you a few things...

[branmakmuffin]

You probally would have gotten a good response had you stopped there. As is you just continue to prove beyond a reasonable doubt, exactly what/why your here. If you really want to talk, lets just link up in-game and I can tell you a few things...
If you want to "tell me a few things," you can send me a PM.

If "tell me a few things" is code for ... something else ... well, then, I must inform you that while I do live on the west coast, it's not San Francisco (not, as they used to say on Seinfeld, that there's anything wrong with living in San Francisco).

[Dracolich]

Buy faster. No need for a game mechanic like a shopping cart. Its a confirmation window to let you change your mind if you accidently select the wrong item. Buy something online once that is in limited quantity, just because it is in your cart does not give you reign over it. If somone else has the item in their cart too it comes down to who hits complete purchase first not who loaded it into their cart first. No need to legislate common sense if you want it buy it.

I think everyone has had something they wanted at one time or another disapear off the vendor in front of their eyes, heck I had one go while I was equipping my haggle gear. I learned from my mistake of not being ready.

I dont like being negetive and I am sorry if it looks that way, I just strongly disagree with the comparison of our "confirmation" window to a "shopping cart" like online purchases. Your better off calling it a wish list. I wish for something good everytime I walk in there.

[Falco_Easts]

I went to buy a WoP Rapier from the broker the other day but some a-hat bought it before I even logged in! I know it was there, how dare they buy it before I have DDO open!

Seriously, it was there!

Dude, I agree the mechanis sucks but can understand why it is there. Better then people logging in, grabbing the good stuff and leaving it sit there in the cart for their guildies.

The 2 minute timer isn't a bad suggeestion though.

[Dracolich]

It is not a cart, its a confirmation window. No timer is needed. If you need 2 minutes to decide if you are going to buy something you dont need to hold somone up who is ready and able to.

[Lorz]

This game mechanic is here becuase say you OP selected an item into the cart.....and then went AFK.

Are we to wait until you return, which currently can be hours since the out log out isnt always working.

Seems to me you want to have first shot at any item and nobody else can.

Either man up and buy it right away or quit crying like a little girl and get over it.

Hesitation Kills dont you know!

/dang noobies

[branmakmuffin]

I went to buy a WoP Rapier from the broker the other day but some a-hat bought it before I even logged in! I know it was there, how dare they buy it before I have DDO open!

Seriously, it was there!
Forget that Monty Haul junque. I just want a Muckbane.

[Kromize]

If you think it's not important to distinguish between vendors and brokers, you are mistaken. They operate differently. Don't you think it's important to help others (new player, perhaps) understand the difference?

No, you probably don't.


No, it would not, because someone would want to hold it for 2:01.

Now, perhaps the interfaces should have a warning "Items in your 'cart' can still be viewed in the broker's inventory and purchased by other players, so don't dawdle if you really want it." That would solve the problem.


Hahaha. Man...you just have to be the one to win the "argument" don't you? You remind me of my 19 year old brother who is entering his 6th year of high school...(a super-duper senior!) Are you a super-duper forum poster or something? :D

[Dawnblade]

Interestingly enough, there is quite a bit of people on Bran's side of the arguement. Granted some people were a little less hmmm intense than him. But it seems to me that the majority of people here believe that the system is good.

The op in the other hand is resorting to name calling to dismis opinions that don't agree with his idea of how the confirmation window (not a shopping cart) should work.

[Kreaper]

There is no problem here, except that some players have invalid expectations.

What happened is a player wanted the item for the listed plat, and he got it. It didn't happen to be you, but that's fine. You snooze, you lose: to change how the system works would be more unfair to the other player. You should not be able to hold items away from other players getting them, and then put it back as if you don't want it. To do so would make the broker system less entertaining.

And of course, it would also consume programmer time for no benefit.


You snooze you lose? You are trying too hard to make us out to be... less. Did you consider that the other guy might have already had it in his cart and I almost sniped him? Removing it from the list for one or two minutes while it is in a cart would help a lot. And why shouldn't you be able to hold an item for a minute to decide if you want to spend all that money on it or if you want to look at other items while it is in you cart. You can't go into a store and start taking things out of other people's cart can you? Can you take an item out of another person's hands if they are standing at the counter looking at it? You can, but you might get punched in the face.

Are we really still worried about programmer time? Is their time being utilized so well that "consuming programmer time" is still being used as an argument?



Do you REALLY go to the brokers in a video game for entertainment?

It seems to me you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing.

[Kreaper]

It is not a cart, its a confirmation window. No timer is needed. If you need 2 minutes to decide if you are going to buy something you dont need to hold somone up who is ready and able to.

So those with tons of plat that can make snap spending decisions win? If you had paid attention to the op you would have seen that it pretty much wiped out his funds. That takes a few minutes to think about. If you were looking at a new car and deciding if you want it and someone with cash walks up do you think the dealer would sell it out from under you? Neither would the brokers if they could think. Again, the timer would help. A minute or two to think about an item without being sniped should be fine.

Look, if you guys are so friggin busy and short for time in game that you can't wait for a minute or two for someone to decide if they want an item then the broker items are probably worthless to you any ways. Really though, you are so uber and push the limits of the game so hard that you should not even need to look at the items in the broker list. Heck, you probably put half of them there yourself!


For the rest of us, the new players, the casual players or even the severely loot roll challenged like me, it will sometimes take one or two minutes to make a spending decision.


I apologize for wanting a feature that might possibly one day hold your loot pwning awsomeness up for two whole minutes.


I'll just go step in front of a bus for being...less.

:rolleyes:

[Aspenor]

I have to agree with A_D and the others here.

If you want it, buy it. Don't sit there and think about it. It's freaking VIDEO GAME CURRENCY. It's not like you can't make it back in half an hour.

[Do'Urden]

Buy or buy not. There is no browse

:cool:

[Dracolich]

You snooze you lose? You are trying too hard to make us out to be... less. Did you consider that the other guy might have already had it in his cart and I almost sniped him? Removing it from the list for one or two minutes while it is in a cart would help a lot. And why shouldn't you be able to hold an item for a minute to decide if you want to spend all that money on it or if you want to look at other items while it is in you cart. You can't go into a store and start taking things out of other people's cart can you? Technically you can if left unatended, its not their property till its paid for Can you take an item out of another person's hands if they are standing at the counter looking at it? You can, but you might get punched in the face. which would be more ignorant then taking the item out of somones hands

Are we really still worried about programmer time? Is their time being utilized so well that "consuming programmer time" is still being used as an argument? Yes we are because we still have bugs more serious then converting the confirmation window into an exclusive cart.

Do you REALLY go to the brokers in a video game for entertainment?

It seems to me you are arguing simply for the sake of arguing. I think others are arguing for the sake of arguing, unless they dont read and continue calling it a shopping cart

Responses in red also.
Its not a shopping cart and please people stop compairing it to one. It is a confirmation window and that is all. It is to give you a second chance to buy the item instead of accidently buying something you dont want. It is not there so you can mull over items at your leasure. I dont know how many times it needs to be said, aparently one more time.

[Dracolich]

So those with tons of plat that can make snap spending decisions win? If you had paid attention to the op you would have seen that it pretty much wiped out his funds. That takes a few minutes to think about. If you were looking at a new car and deciding if you want it and someone with cash walks up do you think the dealer would sell it out from under you? Neither would the brokers if they could think. Again, the timer would help. A minute or two to think about an item without being sniped should be fine.

Look, if you guys are so friggin busy and short for time in game that you can't wait for a minute or two for someone to decide if they want an item then the broker items are probably worthless to you any ways. Really though, you are so uber and push the limits of the game so hard that you should not even need to look at the items in the broker list. Heck, you probably put half of them there yourself!


For the rest of us, the new players, the casual players or even the severely loot roll challenged like me, it will sometimes take one or two minutes to make a spending decision.


I apologize for wanting a feature that might possibly one day hold your loot pwning awsomeness up for two whole minutes.


I'll just go step in front of a bus for being...less.

:rolleyes:

I am not name calling and I definetly dont consider myself wealthy ingame heck I burned all but my last 25plat last night on a quiver for my rogue.

And yes if somone has the plat at that moment it does give them the right to buy it.
Keep the personal attacks out of your threads. Am I saying your the type of person that gives losing little league teams trophies too so they dont feel bad about losing. Am I? No

If you want a friggin minute or two to decide then buy off the AH or will you complain people buying out from under you while you decide weather or not you can afford it. To my knowlege it says weather you can afford it or not when you put it in your confirmation window.

[Kreaper]

YOU can make it back in half an hour. That doesn't mean everyone can. The problem is you guys don't care about others so you refuse to see things from their perspective. I have been playing long enough and often enough that I don't have to think too much about it. But I remember what it was like to be broke. I remember what it was like to have to decide if you are going to wipe out your bankroll on one purchase that you think can really help you out. At one time you didn't have to worry about it because almost no one had the plat to quick buy. Now you do. It is a different Stormreach economy for today's new players than it was for us. We were here for the plat rush last year when +1 tomes and all of the big five would make you millions. They weren't. Try seeing through their eyes and realize that your not being able to buy that so so broker item for one or two minutes longer is not going to ruin you.

[Dracolich]

YOU can make it back in half an hour. That doesn't mean everyone can. The problem is you guys don't care about others so you refuse to see things from their perspective. I have been playing long enough and often enough that I don't have to think too much about it. But I remember what it was like to be broke. I remember what it was like to have to decide if you are going to wipe out your bankroll on one purchase that you think can really help you out. At one time you didn't have to worry about it because almost no one had the plat to quick buy. Now you do. It is a different Stormreach economy for today's new players than it was for us. We were here for the plat rush last year when +1 tomes and all of the big five would make you millions. They weren't. Try seeing through their eyes and realize that your not being able to buy that so so broker item for one or two minutes longer is not going to ruin you.

Good point friend and I can understand. I just will stand by my belief and you yours.

[Dawnblade]

So those with tons of plat that can make snap spending decisions win? If you had paid attention to the op you would have seen that it pretty much wiped out his funds. That takes a few minutes to think about. If you were looking at a new car and deciding if you want it and someone with cash walks up do you think the dealer would sell it out from under you? Neither would the brokers if they could think. Again, the timer would help. A minute or two to think about an item without being sniped should be fine.


Actually, depending on the type of broker and the type of product with which they were dealing, I think they might sell it under your nose. Comparing it with car dealers is not fair. There are tons of the same car up for sale so there is no reason. We are talking about "unique" items here. The broker only has one of those for sale. And he is a businessman he is in the business to make money. He might not want to wait for you to make up your mind.

Now this whole arguement is irrelevant until we stablish one thing: Is it a confirmation window or a shopping cart? To everyone screaming that it is not a shopping cart, I ask you to consider that it behaves much like one; I can see where the assumption that it is a shopping cart is coming from. For confirmation purposes, a dialog box would perhaps have made more sense.

Once we stabblish what this window really represents, we need to ask ourselves: Does it have room for improvement? The answer is always yes. Would adding a "two minutes out of market" timer be a good solution? I don't know. To me, if someone buys an item I was holding on my "shopping cart", I would be more like "awwwww" then "*** this game is the suxorz!111!!1". I guess to me this is not an issue at all. I don't mind the way it is, and wouldn't care if it changed.

Another point to consider is that if the two minutes timer was added is that everytime someone hogged an item for two minutes, a bunch of people would not be able to see the item. Then after the two minutes, the person decided that they didn't want the item, it would go back into the market. By then a lot of people already scanned the market and wandered off after not finding anything; it doesn't take two minutes to go threw the list of items. What they didn't know is that the item they wanted was sitting there on someone elses shopping cart and ended up being rejected. So now those people who were willing to put the money down end up being jipped of an opportunity for the sake of someone elses convinience.

The way it currently works, it's pretty similar to the AH. You can browse and bid (or add to your "confirmation window" for brokers) on your items if you want, but whoever puts down the gold coin bag first gets the item.

[branmakmuffin]

It's freaking VIDEO GAME CURRENCY.
QFT

[Dracolich]

Now this whole arguement is irrelevant until we stablish one thing: Is it a confirmation window or a shopping cart? To everyone screaming that it is not a shopping cart, I ask you to consider that it behaves much like one; I can see where the assumption that it is a shopping cart is coming from. For confirmation purposes, a dialog box would perhaps have made more sense.


Good point I will look for the old patch notes for the time the vendor thing was added. I was sure it was refered to as a confirmation window but as I am human I can be wrong. If I am I do appologize in advance.

[Kreaper]

Another point to consider is that if the two minutes timer was added is that everytime someone hogged an item for two minutes, a bunch of people would not be able to see the item. Then after the two minutes, the person decided that they didn't want the item, it would go back into the market. By then a lot of people already scanned the market and wandered off after not finding anything; it doesn't take two minutes to go threw the list of items. What they didn't know is that the item they wanted was sitting there on someone elses shopping cart and ended up being rejected. So now those people who were willing to put the money down end up being jipped of an opportunity for the sake of someone elses convinience.


Ok. Granted. However...

Two more things to consider:

1) Who said the item had to not appear in the vendor list? Why can't it just have a little symbol on it like the one they added for auto-gather? Then you know it is there but someone is trying to decide if they want it.

2) What are they odd that you would try to click on the same item as another person and have to actually wait up to two minutes for a chance to buy it? A timer would not really affect you that much would it?

As I said before, it doesn't really matter to me. There is rarely anything in the broker that interests me and I just buy it if there is. I can afford a few mistakes. Obviously, many people can't.






Yes, Asp. It IS only video game currency. And it is worthless. So why don't you just send me all of yours? :D





Sorry Draco. I wasn't actually talking to you. I was making a generalized statement. Wasn't meaning to offend. I didn't even know you were responding during my last few posts because I had a couple of other things going on. Peace?

[Kreaper]

Once again guys, it WAS put in as a confirmation window, not as a shopping cart. And I was very glad to have it. Back during the first few months I broke myself buying a 98K gold caster's DA :rolleyes: because of the lag. The confirmation window was very much appreciated.

[Dracolich]

Sorry Draco. I wasn't actually talking to you. I was making a generalized statement. Wasn't meaning to offend. I didn't even know you were responding during my last few posts because I had a couple of other things going on. Peace?

Man its all good :) You didnt offend me I am married hahaha. We are all after the same thing, a better game for everyone not just those who voice their opinions. If it betters the game weather I like it or not I am for it. I was a bit chaffing in some of my posts and I opologize for those. Have a great day and I better get back to welding before the boss catches me on the computer :D

[Angelus_dead]

1) Who said the item had to not appear in the vendor list? Why can't it just have a little symbol on it like the one they added for auto-gather? Then you know it is there but someone is trying to decide if they want it.
Because that would be a major amount of programming effort gone to resolve a rare situation that isn't even a problem.

[Kreaper]

Man its all good :) You didnt offend me I am married hahaha. We are all after the same thing, a better game for everyone not just those who voice their opinions. If it betters the game weather I like it or not I am for it. I was a bit chaffing in some of my posts and I opologize for those. Have a great day and I better get back to welding before the boss catches me on the computer :D


HAHAHAHAHA!!! Now that was funny! :D



I agree with the rest too. Especially with the boss part! :D

[Oreg]

Learn from the Kreaper

Why would I do that? That's like asking Einstein to learn from Sponge Bob.