Aquiring Wealth - How?

[Kolvarg]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper :o

Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

Regards,

Kol

[Kolvarg]

Additonally, I have never seen a tome drop. I have never seen a vorpal, or other uber weapon drop. Heck, I still have never seen a colapsed portable hole drop. So, I have not been able to sell anything like that, nevermind get to use it. :(

[krud]

for a casual player 25k plat at lvl 12 seems about right. Most people acquire lots of plat from loot runs. If you just want to try new quests, without focusing on loot runs, you're wealth will come more slowly, unless you get lucky and pull something uber to sell on the AH. Your chances of getting something uber to sell on the AH increase greatly the more you do raids/loot runs. Typically raiding and loot runs start happening a lot more after you've passed lvl10.

currently the most popular loot runs are in the gianthold, and the vale, and the best loot raid for a lvl 12 is the reaver.

[Angelus_dead]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th.
Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.

[DaveyCrockett]

One of my personal techniques is to 'farm' as I level.
A few of the things I go for on the way up:

Muckbane
Ring of Feathers
Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible)
Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible)
Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible)
Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible)
Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible)
Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible)
Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible)
Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible)
Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)
Chaosgardes
Planar Girdes
Dragon Scales

Putthing these on the AH at reasonable buyouts will assure that your characters aren't 'running on empty', along with other 'smart trader' techniques (one you already do broker>vendor)

[MrWizard]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper :o

Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

Regards,

Kol

the hard way.....

once you get to 12th you should start doing all the giant hold quests a lot for loot and cash. It starts dropping good. You should not do elite POP or the other two big ones until you are 13 (this way you do not get nerfed on the chests)

Then run around the vale a bit and the orchard...get rich, become loot ho


the easy way....

Join a guild that is dying. Be very very nice and helpful. Do anything they ask and be a good friend. When some of them leave the game for good, they will leave you their stuff.....FTW!

[orcbanian]

I didn't start acquiring plat until my first toon hit level 16. I've been playing for about since months and have roughly half a million plat across all my toons (not a fortune, but it keeps me going). Running quests that drop high-level weapons is the way to go. A 14th level weapon sell to a vendor for roughly 1,250 plat without having any haggle modifier. More if you sell to the broker and more if you have haggle and skill/cha buffs. The best way to get cash is to run high level quests and sell the vendor trash to brokers and sell the valuable items on the AH (not such a good idea right now since the AH is fairly stagnant, but it is getting better). You can also farm certain quests for items that are in high demand (Gianthold Tor for dragon scales, The Shroud for large ingredients, The Orchard for taps, and such) and sell them either through the forums marketplace for your server or the AH.

Like I said, I am not wealthy and I am sure people know better ways to get quick cash, but this is a surefire method for steady income of plat. For the moment, focus on getting your highest-level toon to level 16 and then keep running him until you're satisfied with your level of cash.

[Bunker]

Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.

That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

/shakeshead

As for the OP: If you are looking for a way to acquire more stormreach coin, my suggestion is to finish leveling one of your characters. Once that character is lvl 16, and you have solid equipment that is quite static to that toon, go out on occasion and group with players looking to "LOOT" certain quests.

As for gaining pp while leveling a character, even those players out there that have 5 capped toons will tell you that leveling up any class is costly. The only benifit that those other players have is that thier high level toons (lvl 16/capped) are able to "loot" quests to keep the characters they are leveling up fixed up proper with gear. Starting out is always much more difficult. Goodluck to you.

[Osharan_Tregarth]

That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

/shakeshead



AHEM.... How is my ignore feature going to work properly if you people keep quoting him? :D


Sheesh....

[Darkwolf1071]

Hagglebot for the win!

Human, straight-class bard, focusing on things that will boost your haggle (charisma, skill enhancements, Skill Focus Haggle feat etc). Make sure to pick up Human Skill Boost. My hagglebot, Jonthom, is running with a 70 Haggle, and will top-out at 75, self buffed. With an inspire competence from another bard and the right House D collectibles Alchemical boost pots, I could logisticly hit 81. All of my loot over a ML of 8 gets mailed over to my bard for sale. A stack of 100 Heal scrolls is about 12,600 plat, for example, when I think a 0 haggle character would pay around 16,000 or so plat for the same stack of scrolls. It's a slow, bit expensive way to go about it, as you need to level the toon up and bards can be a bit expensive to level and run, but they're a hell of a lot of fun to play, and you'll almost never lack for a group, especially in the high-end raids (unthinkable nowadays to run Shroud, VoD or Hound without a Bard).

[Aranticus]

That is your answer to the OP's question of HOW to acquire funds. You decide to rag on the OP for only being lvl 12. Angelus_dead, yet another usless degrading post.

/shakeshead

As for the OP: If you are looking for a way to acquire more stormreach coin, my suggestion is to finish leveling one of your characters. Once that character is lvl 16, and you have solid equipment that is quite static to that toon, go out on occasion and group with players looking to "LOOT" certain quests.

As for gaining pp while leveling a character, even those players out there that have 5 capped toons will tell you that leveling up any class is costly. The only benifit that those other players have is that thier high level toons (lvl 16/capped) are able to "loot" quests to keep the characters they are leveling up fixed up proper with gear. Starting out is always much more difficult. Goodluck to you.

erm no, hes telling him go level up quickly so that he can join in on all the megabucks runs

degrading? could be

useless? absolutely not

its just a different way of putting it across

[oogly54]

There are lots of things that become "hot" items when they first come out. The value is very high to begin with. Loot those items and sell at a premium when everyone wants them. For example when gianthold came out, the prices on the auction house for one scale was almost 3x what they are now. I loot ran them and sold them for that 3x price(on the forums). After about 6-8 weeks they came down significantly and I bought the scales I sold for 1/3 the cost (on the forums not the auction house). When orchard came out, tapestries were the same way, as well as shield and tome pieces. Named items work this way as well. Hot comodities are a sure fire way to get rich quick.

[Karrai]

Put up a LFM for loot run with any of the following even if you don’t know the run that well most likely some one join that will know the run or put need a guide.
Loot runs (that I can remember):
Giant Caves in Threnal
Orchard of the Macabre
Vale of Twilight
Prison of the Planes
Reaver Raid (Raid, loot run with a timer)
Shroud pt1 (Raid)

Don’t try to sell items on the AH at the extreme prices you see on the AH. As those that can afford it most likely already have it, there are some exceptions like large scales and WoP weapons. And those that can't afford it can't buy it. Also place items with a buyout that you are comfortable with and is price high enough for the must have items.

Make an Haggle bot/mule with haggle related feats and skills so you can mail items to sell to the broker and get more plat and buy items for less plat. Doesn't even have to bot/mule can even be a well rounded alt that you would enjoying playing with.

Fill your back pack when questing, empty out the chests and for the loot left behind, better to leave a quest with a back pack full of sellable junk then a empty backpack which you can not make plat from.

[Aranticus]

Hagglebot for the win!

Human, straight-class bard, focusing on things that will boost your haggle (charisma, skill enhancements, Skill Focus Haggle feat etc). Make sure to pick up Human Skill Boost. My hagglebot, Jonthom, is running with a 70 Haggle, and will top-out at 75, self buffed. With an inspire competence from another bard and the right House D collectibles Alchemical boost pots, I could logisticly hit 81. All of my loot over a ML of 8 gets mailed over to my bard for sale. A stack of 100 Heal scrolls is about 12,600 plat, for example, when I think a 0 haggle character would pay around 16,000 or so plat for the same stack of scrolls. It's a slow, bit expensive way to go about it, as you need to level the toon up and bards can be a bit expensive to level and run, but they're a hell of a lot of fun to play, and you'll almost never lack for a group, especially in the high-end raids (unthinkable nowadays to run Shroud, VoD or Hound without a Bard).

theoretically max haggle can reach 82. but requires the tome in abbot

[alchilito]

whatever you do, don't deal with +3 tomes in raids unless you want to be chasing the guy 1 year after, looking for the things you wanted

lol

[branmakmuffin]

I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.
That's so sad, not capped in 1 1/2 days of play. How do they look at themselves in the mirror Monday morning?

OPishly, I know what I do. I grab every piece of loot from every crate, every barrel, and I grab every collectible. I'm amazed how fast it builds up. Things like rapiers of lesser reptile bane go for fairly decent lowbie cash on the AH (I still don't like the AH, but if it's there, I'll use it).

I'm also amazed how many folks run right by silver (let alone copper) in a lowbie quest. I guess they're just relying on their capped sugar mommies and daddies to twink loot and plat to them.

[EightyFour]

Take a look at what is on the AH (auction house), is it all uber (super) stuff - no. So look at what is on the AH and get an idea of the prices that stuff is going for, when you pick something up that's almost the same in a quest, like even a +3 Flaming Greataxe, there on the AH, there not sold for much but they are there, and than think about what price you would be willing to pay if you were the ML (Minimum Level) of the item, than post it for a fair but some what high amount, and see if it sells, if not, drop the price a little bit and try again, also don't buy anything on the AH for awhile, use it only to sell stuff, in about 2 weeks time you well have more money than you have right now, if things go well for you, you well be sitting pretty good, maybe 100K plat or so. If you only play Sat. and Sun. it might take a bit longer, but you well be doing pretty well.

[sirgog]

Take a look at what is on the AH (auction house), is it all uber (super) stuff - no. So look at what is on the AH and get an idea of the prices that stuff is going for, when you pick something up that's almost the same in a quest, like even a +3 Flaming Greataxe, there on the AH, there not sold for much but they are there, and than think about what price you would be willing to pay if you were the ML (Minimum Level) of the item, than post it for a fair but some what high amount, and see if it sells, if not, drop the price a little bit and try again, also don't buy anything on the AH for awhile, use it only to sell stuff, in about 2 weeks time you well have more money than you have right now, if things go well for you, you well be sitting pretty good, maybe 100K plat or so. If you only play Sat. and Sun. it might take a bit longer, but you well be doing pretty well.


This is definitely the best way to get plat at low to medium levels (this, and selling every Mana Potion you loot at starting bid 2.5x its price, buyout 3x).

Once you get to 16th level, plat comes in thick and fast - every run of the Shroud takes 45-60 minutes and awards 12 level 17 chests, plus extremely valuable collectibles in the form of Large Ingredients (you may choose to keep these, if not they sell for a fortune).

[Kolvarg]

Thanks for all the input. At least now I know my situation is normal. I appreciate the advise.

Regards,

Kol

[Bladededge123]

Indeed, thats about the max amount of cash on hand you would have if you have a lower level character.

I've only got a single 16th character myself, and don't even play him much. I was in your boat for a good deal of the game, at least I consider myself a 'casual player'. For a casual player getting to level cap can take awhile, when you only quest enough to gain a level once a week (or two depending on speed of play) it tends to take awhile. Once you get there though, you will come to a point where all the equipment you have is as good as you can expect to be able to buy off the AH or pull from chests. When you reach a point where 98% of the loot you pull from chests or end rewards get sold to the vendors or ect, you'l begin gathering up cash. If you don't use it to fund lower level alts (or are a cleric and then spend insane amounts of money possibly) you'll start making more then you usually spend on quests. Run the Shroud 4-5 times and you'l have 25k. The reaver is also a very nice thing. If you can get yourself Reaver ready, it is easy enough to be more or less a 'get x amount of loot every 3 days or so'.

Nothing abnormal about your amount of money for a casual player.

[Elsiah]

Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.

AD, there is no reason to be rude to someone asking a valid question, especially given that he pointed out in his own post that he is not only a casual player, but seems to enjoy playing the midlevels and making toons on several servers. If you could only use your powers for good, instead of evil...(or at the least, condescending, nonconstructive and repetitive blather)

[Angelus_dead]

AD, there is no reason to be rude to someone asking a valid question, especially given that he pointed out in his own post
Elsiah, there is no reason to insult someone who gave a valid and helpful answer.

My comments were necessary to accurately inform Kolvarg of how his character's capabilities are so very very far below what is standard, which helps him to understand why his results are less than typical.

It takes 1,200,000 xp to be level 16. Assuming 100 XP per minute (which is the lowest any normal quest will give you), that means 200 hours. Realistically once you got past level 6-8 you'd start earning XP 2-4 times faster than that, but even at the low rate it takes under 1 hr/day to be level 16.


(or at the least, condescending, nonconstructive and repetitive blather)
I said nothing of the sort.

[moops]

When I started a new Alt on a New server recently--I sold strings of Prayer beads, and quickly acquired 50 K plat for my lvl 5 cleric, next will be Stormcleave runs, then some quick leveling to get to the Gianthold where I will be looting.

I also auction anything half way decent on the AH, with the influx of the Chinese players who all had to start from scratch, I've bee able to sell stuff that I could never give away before.

If you get your lvl 12 Shroud Ready, a fortune is waiting for you.


I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper :o

Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

Regards,

Kol

[Kolvarg]

One of my personal techniques is to 'farm' as I level.
A few of the things I go for on the way up:

Muckbane
Ring of Feathers
Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible)
Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible)
Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible)
Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible)
Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible)
Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible)
Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible)
Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible)
Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)
Chaosgardes
Planar Girdes
Dragon Scales

Putthing these on the AH at reasonable buyouts will assure that your characters aren't 'running on empty', along with other 'smart trader' techniques (one you already do broker>vendor)


Any suggested buyout prices for these items? What are you high level characters willing to pay? :D

[Leyoni]

Hagglebot for the win!

Lots of good advice given in the thread thus far, but this is by far the best. A hagglebot bard can really increase the amount of money you make on each sale and decrease the amount of money you spend on each purchase. Mine is L9 (including a level of sorcerer and fighter, both wasted levels BTW but I didn't know any better at the time) and he is awesome.

Next best piece of advice is to push towards L12-16 and spend some time just looking for loot. It goes without saying that the more valuable loot is in the higher level dungeons. Decent loot comes from Beyond the Grave (a really fast loot run that can be done 10 or 12 times in 2 hours with a good group) and from Giant Hold. Hold on to what you really want or think you will need for a developing character. Put what looks really good on the AH with a starting value below actual value and a buy out close to whatever current prices are on your server. Anything else, and anything that fails to sell at the AH, send to your hagglebot.

Third best piece of advice is to farm for items people want. Since you are playing exclusively on one server (and since you can't really, without some real cash investment) move stuff from server to server, this means picking level appropriate quests and running them until you get what sells on the AH. Later, when you can solo them, it means taking your high level character thru quests where things can be found. Some things are always in demand -- Ring of Feathers, Planar Gird -- and you should get a good idea of their value by watching the AH on your server. Some are easier to get (Muckbane, Ring of Feathers) so run them when you are bored or things are slow.

Now, if possible use a second account for your hagglebot as you can then log on using two computers (or the same one if you know the tricks to it) and trade directly -- saves mailing costs. Otherwise use the mail system.

One more thing that I've found to be true. Low level characters earn 2-3k pp pretty easily and don't need good equipment. I have occassionally created a character, run it L3-4, sold everything, mailed the proceeds to my main, deleted and repeated. Since you can hit L3-4 pretty easily even soloing it is a relatively fast way to make money (never repair anything, replace equipment with stuff you find, use starter equipment for as long as possible).

[Leyoni]

My comments were necessary to accurately inform Kolvarg of how his character's capabilities are so very very far below what is standard, which helps him to understand why his results are less than typical.

It takes 1,200,000 xp to be level 16. Assuming 100 XP per minute (which is the lowest any normal quest will give you), that means 200 hours. Realistically once you got past level 6-8 you'd start earning XP 2-4 times faster than that, but even at the low rate it takes under 1 hr/day to be level 16.

True if....

If you can group that often. If you game during peak times. If there are groups needing your class and level. If you hit L10-13 during the right time so that you aren't left out in the big void that exists for these levels.

But, I agree the comment was less than helpful. The problem isn't with dedication to the game or hours spent. In some ways it is as simple as character level. But in others it is more complex. Leyoni is L12 and has been stuck there for 2 weeks because there are so few groups available to him during hours that I play.

So, had you told me that the problem was that I just don't play enough I'd have said something that would get me banned. :D

Practical ways to increase wealth without power-leveling are probably a better help.

[MrWizard]

It takes 1,200,000 xp to be level 16. Assuming 100 XP per minute (which is the lowest any normal quest will give you), that means 200 hours. Realistically once you got past level 6-8 you'd start earning XP 2-4 times faster than that, but even at the low rate it takes under 1 hr/day to be level 16.

this is good.

and for those that skip the optionals and just run through it for fun, that should be at least 500/minute dungeon time, especially at lower levels ob elite only.
for speed runner probably 700 or more per minute.

I usually take the 8 hour run to get to 10 or 11 and then relax as cap can be boring and just enjoy the ride up from there.

[Kromize]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW?

Just depends on how you spend your life. Wanna play games a lot more, or do more stuff in the world?

The more you play games, the more in-game currency you will get.

[Rog]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game. I for one would love to know HOW? I have been a casual player for about a year. My highest level character on Khyber is 12th. I have recently started playing exclusively on Thelanis (and enjoying it), and my highest character there is 5th (almost 6th). At no time in since I have been playing have I been able to have more than 25k plat. I don't spend wildly on the auction house. I sell items to brokers vs general vendors for the extra gold. My gear is almost always several levels below my character. I have tried selling some items on the AH and have never been able to sell something at a very high price, like I see other items listed for.

Does this only happen at maxed levels running raids/high level content? I am not complaining at all, I just don't see how this can be done at low to mid levels or for someone that does not play almost every night running raids. I feel like a pauper :o

Please share your insight and tips, I am eager to learn from the wise and experienced of you!

Regards,

Kol

look me up on kyber with you hit level 13 i wil take you though the hound raid and do some rainbow in the dark elite loot runs with you if you like would say now but as a 12 your be powered.
lunarsong

[Thrudh]

Ok, you see: Your highest level character is 12th.

Getting to 16th level is EASY. Since you haven't done that yet, it's understandable you don't have much plat yet, and haven't seen a good item drop yet.

I mean, seriously. There are people who create a character Friday night and are 12th level by Sunday morning.


Wow, that's helpful A_D...

Such good advice... oh wait, there's no advice in there at all... just an implied insult.... My first capped character took me 6-9 months (I was probably playing 3 different characters at the time). My 5th capped character took probably 3 weeks (cause I was focusing on him)

No one starts out knowing everything A_D... thank god no one was that rude to me when I was first starting...

to the OP... You do get a lot more wealth at the higher levels... and more chances for tomes, vorpals, etc.

Another good way to make money is to sell new collectables when they first appear... What I mean is... when Gianthold first came out, everyone wanted relics that dropped there in order to get raid-ready... So I sold mine for ridiculous amounts, because all the rich players were willing to pay... And then got my own relics later...

When the Orchard came out, and everyone wanted tapestries... I sold mine at first for ridiculous amounts, because all the rich players were willing to pay...

Right now, everyone wants ingrediants from the Vale... You can sell the basic ingrediants to make greensteel items for like 100k-200k gold each... so doing ONE vale quest can net you 200k gold...

Small and medium ingrediants also go for around 200k gold, and large ingrediants can get you 1 million gold easy....

But to do the Vale quests, you need to be 15th or 16th level... and after you do all 5 Vale quests, you can do the Shroud, pick up some ingrediants and sell them...

When the next level increase comes out with new quests, see what the new "collectable" is and farm it

[mehlinda]

Since your highest character is 12th it will be tough for you to amass much in the way of plat but I will tell you what I do to maintain good levels. Take into account I have 9 capped characters and they are well equipped so I can part with a good portion of the loot I aquire.
First thing you can do is to look at the AH regularly and get a good feel for what things sell for. Many things do well on the AH that we sell to vendors for a pittance. Lots of people buy lvl 7 +3 stat items while they are leveling new characters and don't bother to bank them so they will buy on the AH. So instead of selling things like this to brokers put them on the AH for 3-5x or more what the brokers will give you.

If you have characters that have solo ability and can self heal you can learn to loot run quests like Trial By Fire which is soloable with a cleric or sorc. This is a good way to get 30-50k pp every week if you ransack it for each character and you can get lucky and find things that sell high on the AH if you are lucky. I have 3 casters and 2 clerics that can solo this on elite so prior to the new mod i used to ransack this quest on all 5 regularly. Also the vale and orchard chests will provide you with high value items to sell to brokers and AH.

The main thing is to not hoard things you will never use that sell on the AH. The flavor of the week is also good to part with as they sell for much more on the AH. I had lots of greater construct bane weps when The Shroud went live. I picked up more than 2 mill pp on the AH selling weps I wasn't going to use.

If you can start running The Shroud you can make tier one and two foci to sell or just sell ingredients and these do well also. I spend a ton of pp on scrolls for my 2 clerics and potions for all my characters so I need good pp flow to maintain. Most of my characters can umd Heal scrolls so I bleed off a lot of pp there. Onve you get a few characters up there in level, you will start seeing your bankroll grow. It just takes a little time and planning. One thing you can also do is mail your high value items to a character with very high haggle and you will get more when you sell. The haggle needs to be pretty high to overcome the mailing price but if you have the time it will also help.

Hope this was helpful.

[Kolvarg]

What do you think would be fair prices for the items below on the AH?

Muckbane
Ring of Feathers
Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible)
Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible)
Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible)
Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible)
Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible)
Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible)
Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible)
Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible)
Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)
Chaosgardes
Planar Girdes
Dragon Scales

[Draccus]

What do you think would be fair prices for the items below on the AH?

Muckbane
Ring of Feathers
Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible)
Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible)
Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible)
Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible)
Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible)
Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible)
Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible)
Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)
Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible)
Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)
Chaosgardes
Planar Girdes
Dragon Scales

It completely depends on your server and what's going on in-game at the time. If you've got a few people who are farming muckbanes and selling them, then the price for muckbanes will be lower than if you're on a server with no one selling them.

Case in point: When I first discovered the wonderful world of selling collectibles, I noticed I had 4 Pure Waters in my pack. I farmed for 30 minutes until I got one more and checked the AH. There was on stack of 5 on there for a buyout of 250,000g. I put my stack up with a buyout of 220,000g and it sold in a day.

A week later, I found another 5 PWs and checked the AH. There were at least 10 stacks of five with buyouts of 80,000. I posted mine for 60,000g and sold it.

On the other hand...

I got my ring of feathers and checked the AH. There were no fewer than 15 for sale (this was right when all the new monks were all hitting STK) and buyouts were around 160,000g. I waited a couple of weeks and sold mine for 250,000g when there were only 2 on the AH.

In a microeconomy like DDO, a single player can impact the value of an item so you have to keep checking the competitive prices. As a rule of thumb, set your buyout at about 80% of the lowest buyout you see and your stuff should move (assuming there's a market for it at all).

[ArkoHighStar]

What do you think would be fair prices for the items below on the AH?

Muckbane 5-8kpp
Ring of Feathers check your AH as this item has value for twinkers but at least 60kpp
Strings of Prayer Beads (15 stack) (collectible) 2-3kpp these drop a lot
Vials of Pure Water (5 stack) (collectible)10-15kpp these drop less
Lightning-Split Soarwood (collectible) 10-15kpp these drop even less
Silver Flame Hymnals (6 stack) (collectible) 30-50kpp these drop even less
Tomes: Prophecies of Khyber (2 stack) (collectible) 20-30kpp
Luminescent Dusts (3 stack) (collectible) 20-30kpp
Fragrant Drowshood mushrooms (9 stack) (collectible) 20-30kpp
Sparkling Dusts (6) (collectible) 40-50kpp
Deadly Feverblanch mushrooms (12 stack) (collectible)20-30kpp
Lightning-Split Soarwoods (4 stack) (collectible) 30-50kpp these drop even less
Funerary Tokens (22 stack) (collectible)10-15kpp
Chaosgardes check your AH and even try to trade in forum instead you will get more for it
Planar Girdes 65-150kpp same as chaosguardes
Dragon Scales 20-40kpp blue is the most sought after these days as it still has themost value to casters



these are estimates and can vary by server. The easiest thing to do is to check the AH and see what others are selling for.

[GlassCannon]

I have seen several posts lately commenting on how easy it is to aquire gold/plat in the game.

Oh, it IS easy! All you need to do is cap 9 characters with 2 and a half years' worth of collected loot, and go on loot runs with each of them in the highest level content possible without spending and resources. One of said characters must have a Haggle of 60 or higher, though, so do be suer to make a Bard.

Send all the weapons to the Bard, sell the rest of the junk you won't use, and voila, you have loads of plat.


Of course, this means you don't buy arrows, support potions, wands, scrolls, or ANYTHING beneficial to anyone at all whatsoever. You must become a real scumbag to make over 100k plat and keep it all. If you attain 1 million, you can then lord it over people in more rampant scumbaggery.... or you can do what I do and keep the Cleric population on the server functional and raiding by making constant donations with said Haggle character. Of course, you will have next to nothing left for yourself, but building a party with a functional healer is far preferable to seeing a large number in your Money slot and waiting for 6 hours.;)

[Kolvarg]

Oh, it IS easy! All you need to do is cap 9 characters with 2 and a half years' worth of collected loot, and go on loot runs with each of them in the highest level content possible without spending and resources. One of said characters must have a Haggle of 60 or higher, though, so do be suer to make a Bard.

Send all the weapons to the Bard, sell the rest of the junk you won't use, and voila, you have loads of plat.


Of course, this means you don't buy arrows, support potions, wands, scrolls, or ANYTHING beneficial to anyone at all whatsoever. You must become a real scumbag to make over 100k plat and keep it all. If you attain 1 million, you can then lord it over people in more rampant scumbaggery.... or you can do what I do and keep the Cleric population on the server functional and raiding by making constant donations with said Haggle character. Of course, you will have next to nothing left for yourself, but building a party with a functional healer is far preferable to seeing a large number in your Money slot and waiting for 6 hours.;)

Let me guess......you play a cleric right? :rolleyes: Thanks for sharing!

BTW I hope you are not implying that I am somehow selfish or greedy for asking this question, because that is not the case. Also, clerics are not the only ones that heal, and they are not the only ones that need financial help.

And Finally, this does not address my question, so why post?

[Invalid_50]

My comments were necessary

No they weren't.

[Kolvarg]

My comments were necessary to accurately inform Kolvarg of how his character's capabilities are so very very far below what is standard, which helps him to understand why his results are less than typical..

What capabilities are so very very far below what is standard? The fact that I don't play 18 hours a day 7 days a week? That is not a capability? That is a lifestyle choice. If you remember I stated I was not complaining and that I was thought that the issue might be not having capped characters.



It takes 1,200,000 xp to be level 16. Assuming 100 XP per minute (which is the lowest any normal quest will give you), that means 200 hours. Realistically once you got past level 6-8 you'd start earning XP 2-4 times faster than that, but even at the low rate it takes under 1 hr/day to be level 16.

Assuming that you never have to wait to find a group, or that once in the group everyone would start right away. Also not considering any party wipes, time to sell repair, etc.

It has no relevance to tell me how quickly I should level up. I have enjoyed my time playing several different characters and think that it makes me a better player. If your type of play works for you then fine, do what you want. Don't tell me, or imply that I am not a good player because I don't have several capped characters.

[Kolvarg]

To those of you who took the time to answer my actual question with real advice, thank you. I appreciate your sharing all this information with me. It is great to see when a community of people with a common interest help each other. I mostly play on Thelanis now, if you ever want to run with me, I would be honored. My main 2 characters on Thelanis are Kolthor (part of a static group) and Kolgamar.


To those of you who found it necessary to make negative comments, be little me, or otherwise add no value to this thread, all I can say is ...........whatever, See Ya in Stormreach!

[Osharan_Tregarth]

I said nothing of the sort.

Angelus, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, because it's possible you don't actually mean your forum posts to come across the way they do.

I can't speak for everyone, but here's a sign... I'm in game, and I mention that someones posts on the DDO forums to be generally condescending, rude, and plain out antagonistic, two of my guidies knew exactly who I was talking about. If you don't mean for your posts to be taken that way, you should probably reevaluate the way you put your information across.