Anyone made a build for khopesh use?

[SniptheShadow]

I was just wondering if anyone has made a character for using khopesh's exclusively?

I really like the looks of this weapon in-game but using one isn't practical with my finesse built TWF rogue main, and my secondary character is a THF dwarven fighter so I'm not going that route with him either.

But I do like them.

And I have an experimental character coming up that I might have use them if it's a good idea. He's a drow ranger at 2nd level only, so if I'd need to redo things it isn't too late yet.

Anyway, just curious if players have done this and what might be wise to do with a drow ranger build for use with this weapon.

Thanks in advanced.

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[jkm]

both of my rogues use them in their offhand with a radiance 2 scimmy in the main hand.

some pointers:

it isn't finessable so it needs to be a str build
human is good for the extra feat to fit things in
if you want to dual wield them, OTWF is of value if you have a fringe to hit bonus (my rogues qualify for this if they lose sneaks)

[Angelus_dead]

I was just wondering if anyone has made a character for using khopesh's exclusively?
Khopesh usage is very common and popular, but it only requires 1 or 2 feats from the build, so it's just a small proportion of all the options. For a while it seemed like Khopesh was the default weapon of the majority of sword + shield guys, and it's a good choice for strength TWF characters too.


Anyway, just curious if players have done this and what might be wise to do with a drow ranger build for use with this weapon.
No, it isn't. The advantages of a drow are (1) higher intelligence and charisma, (2) rapier and shortsword bonuses. That character would use neither of them, so you'd do better to make it an elf, which would be mostly identical but have higher strength or constitution.

[MysticTheurge]

That character would use neither of them, so you'd do better to make it an elf, which would be mostly identical but have higher strength or constitution.

Assuming you have 32-point characters opened. Otherwise, the elf isn't really better than the drow.

[Thelmallen]

I use khopesh on my elven paladin and my elven fighter/rogue/ranger because of the high crit multiplier and good crit range. I do have Oversized TWF on my fighter, however but it isn't as if I burned two feats to only use paired khopesh as I have nice transmuters and disruptors that are not light offhand weapons and subsequently don't take the oversized penalty. If I was stretched for feats, however, I would probably go with scimitars or if I ran a drow would stick with rapier and follow the finessable line and go dex/IC:pierce build and not focus on strength at all.

[Rav'n]

My Drow Fighter/Rogue (8/7 right now) was Built for Kopesh use. +3 Vorpal in Main, +1 Vorpal of Righteousness in my off. I never play him as the Main Tank...but anyone who's run with him nows he's nasty.

I tend to stay "Hidden" and use the Vorpals for "Assasinating" the Mobs. The Only thing cooler than rolling a '20' ... is rolling a '20' while hidden, staying hidden and doing it again. My best is (3) 20's in a row, 3 blue mobs, 3 bodies in my wake!

[Aesop]

Try this one on for size


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Kopiesh
Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Female
(4 Fighter \ 12 Ranger)
Hit Points: 188
Spell Points: 196
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 14
Will: 6

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 17 24
Dexterity 13 20
Constitution 13 15
Intelligence 12 14
Wisdom 10 12
Charisma 10 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 14
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 16
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 3 14
Bluff 0 1
Concentration 1 2
Diplomacy 0 1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 0 1
Heal 0 1
Hide 5 19
Intimidate 0 20
Jump 7 19
Listen 0 3
Move Silently 5 18
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 1 2
Search 1 4
Spot 4 13
Swim 7 17
Tumble 3 9
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 2 (Ranger)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead


Level 6 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 10 (Ranger)


Level 11 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 13 (Ranger)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Whirlwind Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance I
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance II
Enhancement: Elven Enchantment Resistance III
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Attack II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild III
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I





I just have some Enhancments I'm not sure what to do with

[Deaths_ward]

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Lazereousa Maelstrome
Level 16 Neutral Good Drow Female
(2 Fighter \ 3 Rogue \ 11 Ranger)
Hit Points: 162
Spell Points: 180
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 16
Will: 6

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Strength 16 21 22
Dexterity 16 17 22
Constitution 12 12 12
Intelligence 10 10 10
Wisdom 14 14 14
Charisma 10 10 10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Balance 5 11 11
Bluff 0 0 0
Concentration 1 1 1
Diplomacy 0 0 0
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 0 13 13
Heal 2 2 2
Hide 3 6 6
Intimidate 0 0 0
Jump 7 13 13
Listen 2 20 22
Move Silently 3 6 6
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 0 0 0
Search 0 0 2
Spot 6 20 25
Swim 7 14 14
Tumble 5 9 9
Use Magic Device 2 19 22

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Swim (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 3 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility


Level 4 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Elemental


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Fighter)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+6)


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Haggle (+6)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh


Level 10 (Ranger)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Listen (+3)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Listen (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Swim (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Haggle (+5)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device


Level 16 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Ranger Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost IV
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Sprint Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes II
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Resistance II
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Wrack Construct I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Ranger Spot I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I




There's mine, and she.....packs a whallop, smacked a gnoll the other night with my mineral II Khopesh (with treason offhand :) ) for 122+7+3+10+7+13 (Sneak attack, and weapon enhancements really add up), she can get up to 34 Strength pretty consistently, with a rage pot, and madstone boots. Only thing I have to say is, very gear dependent, if I didn't have all the stuff on her I do she wouldn't be as viable (mostly from lack of HP, and a low to hit bonus), but the UMD is a wonderful trick for stepping back and supporting clerics, buffing yourself with greater heroism scrolls, and using pretty well any piece of gear you want while saying screw the race required rules :).

Also I realize she has a low will save, but again with gear, stat boosts, and greater heroism she's up to; Fort-23, Reflex-31, Will-19

[DamnGenYer]

a 32 point human build would be much better, if you hold off a little bit, your level 11 should be able to get it soon

[Griphon]

I find when it comes to Kopesh use the following rules apply:

The Higher the Str the better.
One handed kicks tail, but two gets an extra swing or two.
Pally's Smite Evil and the enhancement line that increase crit range/damage (not sure which) is massively scary with a Kopesh user.

My thoughts that I've not tested yet.
Pally Fighter build with Smite Evil and Weapon Specialization Slashing would be quite nasty.

[baddax]

Got a friend who is buildiung a human 32 pt build, 6 rgr (for tempest)10 ftr for (feats and ftr speed boost) . he's lvl 8 now. He routinely leads kill counts and does excellent dmg.

[boldarblood]

Another build to get good results is a 2WF 14/2 Barbarian/Fighter. With improved crit and barb crit you can get your khopesh to a 15-20 crit range with a ~40 strength. Its a lot of damage.

[SniptheShadow]

a 32 point human build would be much better, if you hold off a little bit, your level 11 should be able to get it soon

Yeah, after reading here and talking to people I quest with I'm starting to think this is the best idea.

Now that I'm getting to higher levels on my main, I'm seeing these more all the time on loot pulls. I like them but just wanted to know about what other players have done with their use since it's an exotic weapon. I like the barbarian idea...maybe a human STR based barb/rog with TWF? Not sure yet.

But thanks everyone.

And any other ideas/builds please post them here for me to study.

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