Show Off Builds

[Austinb1235]

Looking for a thread to show off your uber builds? Heres the place, first, I'll start.. :) note* not maxed hp yet



http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8375/ddopicrh5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddopicrh5.jpg)

[Korvek]

Looks more like a character sheet than a build :p

[Austinb1235]

I'm showing you what my cleric is, like hp,sp etc

[Korvek]

Ah, I considered the two to be somewhat different, like a build being how the character came to be in the first place whereas character sheet always just seemed like the finished product without explanation of how it's well...built. Whatever works though.

[Nuckin]

thought u said uber? all i see is a cleric with only a 22 wisdom and 900 sp...... not very uber to me

[Austinb1235]

Wasn't made for quests, wasnt wearing his WIsdom and wizadry 7 item

[KiwiJoe]

I have to agree... no Sps and not enough STR to melee anything. What do you do? Sit in the corner and look at your 500+ hitpoints? ;)

[Austinb1235]

Yeah lol, no, he does great in quests can solo alot of level 14+ quests, second best PvPer, and does great healing also

[Blazer]

Wasn't made for quests, wasnt wearing his WIsdom and wizadry 7 item

Well if you're gonna take a picture of yourself, might as well get dressed up for it, right? ;)

[Austinb1235]

His necklace is a +6 con item, and lorriks necklace, so i had to wear one, again hes not fully done yet and i like hp more than sp

[Dexxaan]

Yeah lol, no, he does great in quests can solo alot of level 14+ quests, second best PvPer, and does great healing also

* 2nd Best PVP'r with AC 36? Dear lord! What Role Playing Server are you on?

[Austinb1235]

AC doesnt really matter to me, i just like to have a decent amount, i only need ac when im fighting rangers but i have alot of hp so that takes care of that and my stone skin clickie, tanks wont stand a chance. In quests i usually have a 45+ ac

[Dexxaan]

AC doesnt really matter to me, i just like to have a decent amount, i only need ac when im fighting rangers but i have alot of hp so that takes care of that and my stone skin clickie, tanks wont stand a chance. In quests i usually have a 45+ ac

Sorry to burst your Bubble but with a 16 STR (+3), a BAB of 16 (which I'll dispel if I choose to) leaving you with 12 I believe, +5 Greensteel Weapon, a GH from a gird (+4) and your Puny Rage (+2) you Add up a Whopping: 30 to hit. If you roll a 20 you are still short 18 to hit me (Unbuffed-Undispellable and Non-Boosted), and 24 Short to hit me if I ever decided to be mean and Dispel you. :eek:

It is close to 2AM, so my Math could be a lil off, but your life expectancy on my server is crystal clear.

You are up against 32 STR (+11), 16 BAB, +5 Greensteel Khopesh (Mineral II), Divine Favor (+3), GH (+4) = 39 so I miss on a 1 (Natural miss) 6 if you get friendly Buffs....which in PVP mean nothing...Self-Buffs count...not much more.

[stabbert]

Indeed this looks more like a "show off your stats" than show off your builds thread.
Unfortunately you do have alot of HPs but not much else.
If someone starts meleeing you its only a matter of time before you die because
all you can do is sit there and take a beating until they finish you off.

What exactly do you hope to accomplish with high con but low wis and str with
15 cleric levels?

Seems to me you made that 15 cleric/1 barb as a "show off my leet HPs" build.
I bet you run out of SP after a few self heals eh?

And dexxan is totally right about everything he said, consider yourself owned sir.

If you are #2 in pvp ranking on your server who is number 1? someone with 550 hp?

Anyway... from now on if you intend to make a thread named "Show off builds"
please at least include your actual "build" with it instead of a screenshot of
your character sheet.

And btw since you only posted your character sheet we can only assume you are fully buffed
with that many HPs. GOOD JOB! /patonback

Oh and 36-45 ac is hardly "decent", if you want decent then break 60 then you can boast.

-Stabbert

[Razvan]

I'm showing you what my cleric is, like hp,sp etc
...uhm...gimped?? :D

[Aranticus]

Yeah lol, no, he does great in quests can solo alot of level 14+ quests, second best PvPer, and does great healing also

my cleric has only 300+ hp and can solo LEVEL SIXTEEN quests

[Darkwolf1071]

/reroll

[debo]

threads like this are why I come to the forums :)

lol

[Ringos]

Good gravy...this is one thread I can't help but visit! :)


(BTW...my Clerics all have less than 300 HP :) )

[Xaxx]

and there you have it boys and girls, the 500 hp gimp
round of applause for the op for showing off his gimped cleric

[Verdant_Force]

Yikes dude, what server are you on?


/ignore

[Sue_Dark]

Yeah lol, no, he does great in quests can solo alot of level 14+ quests, second best PvPer, and does great healing also

You are aware that "second best" IS EQUAL TO first loser, right?



As to what he does in quests.... prolly saves his mana so he can run away with soulstones when everyone dies from lack of buffs/healing and then makes himself look like a hero by res'n the party. ;)


Edit- psst... I like the way he cropped off the area of the screen that shows buffs :)

[Ringos]

As to what he does in quests.... prolly saves his mana so he can run away with soulstones when everyone dies from lack of buffs/healing and then makes himself look like a hero by res'n the party. ;)


I have no idea why I found this as funny as I did, but coffee almost came out of my nose! Well, maybe it's the mental image of a Dwarven Cleric with 1000 HP running around, collecting soul stones while Chain Lightning shoots up his backside...all while explaining why he didn't use his 600 SP for healing them in the first place! :)

[Dexxaan]

threads like this are why I come to the forums :)

lol

/Absoloutely


and there you have it boys and girls, the 500 hp gimp
round of applause for the op for showing off his gimped cleric

/clap (singlehanded) :eek:


I have no idea why I found this as funny as I did, but coffee almost came out of my nose! Well, maybe it's the mental image of a Dwarven Cleric with 1000 HP running around, collecting soul stones while Chain Lightning shoots up his backside...all while explaining why he didn't use his 600 SP for healing them in the first place! :)


I found it funny, but Ringo your mental image description is dead on and HILARIOUS... I must add he´s so proud of his uberness I picture him in a Pink Deleras Robe!

[zoltan00]

Oh man avius you got owned on the forums well you guys gotta understand this kid is a pvper so in pvp all that matters for cleric is hp and saves one day he send me a tell saying hey drak can you show me your pvp build and satst i said sure but, i think he wanted to aim something like this charatcter sheet im not saying im the best and there al always room for impvements. Its not his fault all he's trying to do is get attention like any other kid...he finally has a good pvp build and he wants to show it off i personally wouldnt post my stats because when your claming to be the best there are always ppl that seek out ways to make your build look bad. but over all he's a decent build i still own him in pvp i guess thats why he said he's second best LOL im not sure im the best but i know im atleast tied for first place with my guildee AVO.

http://i35.tinypic.com/28rfokw.jpg

[alchilito]

So I guess my casters wont be asking you dudes for DV's anytime soon :D

[branmakmuffin]

My 5th level brb/brd just killed the wandering giant in TR all by his poor selveses. Is that uber enough to post his character sheet?

[ShaeNightbird]

My 5th level brb/brd just killed the wandering giant in TR all by his poor selveses. Is that uber enough to post his character sheet?

I think it is, because I heard a rumour that the rogue was not at full health.

[Arkat]

OP:

This thread's not turning out the you'd hoped, huh?

[Ardanroth]

Fair enough his build / stats arent in the same league as the "experts" but slating and flaming a kid about something that he was obviously proud of is something most of you experienced forumites should be ashamed of.

Give him a guiding hand and and some of your knowledge and maybe, just maybe he will surprise you with an "uber" build and not leave the forums scared and scarred

[adamkatt]

Oh man avius you got owned on the forums well you guys gotta understand this kid is a pvper so in pvp all that matters for cleric is hp and saves one day he send me a tell saying hey drak can you show me your pvp build and satst i said sure but, i think he wanted to aim something like this charatcter sheet im not saying im the best and there al always room for impvements. Its not his fault all he's trying to do is get attention like any other kid...he finally has a good pvp build and he wants to show it off i personally wouldnt post my stats because when your claming to be the best there are always ppl that seek out ways to make your build look bad. but over all he's a decent build i still own him in pvp i guess thats why he said he's second best LOL im not sure im the best but i know im atleast tied for first place with my guildee AVO.



Id much rather have 300 hp and 1700 sp...

[Ranmaru2]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa247/Arshelan/Thosehealers.jpg

This build may look "gimp" or "Bad" because of the low armor class, but I assure you it is quite capable. The hp/str you see is with rage and madstone (single) and GFL (Still working out where to put this in the actual build...), as well as 2 saves missing from an absent head of good fortune.

335 hp/28 str is how I usually run with it.

I switch through the Head/Jerky/Bloodstone/Mummified Bat for trinkets, and am wearing the Velah Full plate for the DR 5/- :D

Quite capable UMD, 36 atm w/out HV. Working on finding that perfect spot for a shroud item to get it up to about 39-42 :p

17 tier I DVs (capable of restoring 286-374 sp) for absolute emergencies where the cleric(s) will need them. Could be up at 20, but I don't really see the point...waste of enhancements.

edit:
OH yeah...and the DPS is there, especially the peak hits from exhaulted smite :D Divine Sacrifice for in between smites/regular mobs. General crits range from 100-180 with Divine Sacrifice.

(Combat): You sneak attack Suulomades for 410 points of slash damage.
(Combat): You sneak attack Siege Trooper of Shavarath for 488 points of slash damage.
(Combat): You sneak attack Windlasher Typhoon for 504 points of slash damage.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Wasn't made for quests, wasnt wearing his WIsdom and wizadry 7 item

If he wasn't made for quests, what was he made for... I agree with the others, very non uber...

[branmakmuffin]

I think it is, because I heard a rumour that the rogue was not at full health.
Yet the rogue in question is not related to Coyle.

At least, that's the word on the street.

[Cordelia]

In addition to your uber build, I would also like to applaud your photo-editing skills. The manner in which you cropped out the rest of the screenshot so as not to confuse the viewers with the avalanche of buff icons at the top of your screen was extremely skillful. This allows the viewer to better appreciate all the ridiculously inflated stats, saves and extra HP. Bravo!

[Gangster-Man]

Dang, I was hoping for some new builds to try out. This thread fails to deliver.

[Ranmaru2]

In addition to your uber build, I would also like to applaud your photo-editing skills. The manner in which you cropped out the rest of the screenshot so as not to confuse the viewers with the avalanche of buff icons at the top of your screen was extremely skillful. This allows the viewer to better appreciate all the ridiculously inflated stats, saves and extra HP. Bravo!

mine or the OP? I cropped mine because of some "questionable" content in guild chat.

also, I got +2 tomes in Str/Cha/dex and a +3 in wisdom, so if they seem inflated....they're from a while of getting tomes

[Cordelia]

mine or the OP? I cropped mine because of some "questionable" content in guild chat.

also, I got +2 tomes in Str/Cha/dex and a +3 in wisdom, so if they seem inflated....they're from a while of getting tomes

The OP. Strangely, he included his health bar, with all the temporary HP, which made the whole thing pretty transparent.

[Impaqt]

lol, thats not a Cleric.......

This is a Cleric
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9266/allendaleselfbuffedsu9.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allendaleselfbuffedsu9.jpg)

[DoctorWhofan]

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii194/mercsonly/ScreenShot00251.jpg



Here's mine, little old, I am wearing Minos Legens, so add 18 HP and 100% Fortification to it.


My question to the OP: What's the point of PvPing in this game? Is that what you do all the time? I might gotthis wrong, but the only reason you are "#2" is the fact most players in thegame do not PvP, therefore you have never faced them. Also, clerics built like mine face the fact half their spells cannot be used. However, Even with my 160+ Blade barrier and your lack of strength, AND my CONCENTRATION (not shown here but a 23 unbuffed) I'd win.

What is the good of all your CON if you cannot hit anything? My severly gimped Paladin has 24 STR at least.

[Niclos]

lol, thats not a Cleric.......

This is a Cleric
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9266/allendaleselfbuffedsu9.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allendaleselfbuffedsu9.jpg)
My god congress needs to have a hearing about this, Do you know Barry Bonds' or Roger Clemens' trainers? Thought BALCO labs have closed....

[Niclos]

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii194/mercsonly/ScreenShot00251.jpg



Here's mine, little old, I am wearing Minos Legens, so add 18 HP and 100% Fortification to it.


My question to the OP: What's the point of PvPing in this game? Is that what you do all the time? I might gotthis wrong, but the only reason you are "#2" is the fact most players in thegame do not PvP, therefore you have never faced them. Also, clerics built like mine face the fact half their spells cannot be used. However, Even with my 160+ Blade barrier and your lack of strength, AND my CONCENTRATION (not shown here but a 23 unbuffed) I'd win.

What is the good of all your CON if you cannot hit anything? My severly gimped Paladin has 24 STR at least.


I beg you to get a superior potency 6 item, please....

[DoctorWhofan]

I beg you to get a superior potency 6 item, please....

I do, it's in my fist. Not to mention Enhancements

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Dang, I was hoping for some new builds to try out. This thread fails to deliver.

/QFT

But it was a true blast there in the begining!

[Bexo]

my cleric is not better or worse than any other but i think its a fun character to play.



http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e102/allgee71/ScreenShot00449.jpg

[GlassCannon]

Let me fix it by posting a guy with NO raid items(other than the Gloves from SR that is, upper right corner.), NO +3 tomes. No shroud item either.

Note that he does have a 2 STR tome, a 2 CON tome and 2 WIS tome thanks to a streak of miracle luck my Rangers and Barbarian had in the Vale and Shroud.

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee307/sarin_elf/ScreenShot00043.jpg


Now, what do you think I can get done with this little fella?


By the way, numbercrunching min/maxing build planning sillyfolk:rolleyes:, if you don't like what you see, I DON'T CARE! This is not my primary occupation, or even a hobby. This is a game. ;)

He is usually the last to fall in any and every partywipe he is in, FYI. Rings on slot 9 and 0 are Rings of the Ancestors pulled before the nerf. I did a total of 9 runs for them.

No, he doesn't need Minos Legens yet... currently a UA helm of Concentration 13.

[elderon_Lafeet]

um old pic so no stat page on it but it is just with bskin haste, recitation, and pallyness
no gh for damage was taking the pic for ac straight halfing ranger
EDIT Could have 10ish more ac
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm16/isabowman/ScreenShot00020-1.jpg

[Nuckin]

how did u get numbers to pop up and show time left on the cool downs? never seen that before

[Vyctor]

Here you go, a self healing evasion battle sorc, ya my ac sucks, but with quicken reconstruct, it doesn't matter, no +2 or +3 tomes yet, and still without raid loot of any substance, only have Cloudburst at this point...:

http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o196/joshdt2000/Destrukshun-2.jpg

[GlassCannon]

how did u get numbers to pop up and show time left on the cool downs? never seen that before

Yes.


Please do tell, Elderon LaFeet. Those would be SO handy in a heated fight.

[elderon_Lafeet]

in options cooldowns

[nbhs275]

Looking for a thread to show off your uber builds? Heres the place, first, I'll start.. :) note* not maxed hp yet



http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8375/ddopicrh5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddopicrh5.jpg)

I wonder if my pc will let me take pics now?

then i would show you a real bc, with all the buffy goodness of 36 str and a 40 con, and 28 wisdom

what you have done here is the equivelent of watching wrestling for an hour and saying you can do it.

[Nuckin]

lmao have seen that box never clicked it before...... wow im such a noob

[Austinb1235]

Yeah, For those of you who thinks im a tank, i'm not. For those of you think i was actually 'made' for questing, i'm not. This is my second cleric and i play him alot in pvp, pvp is fun for me but for some you guys you dont think pvp is worthwhile, NOTE* need to craft wis +2 item and 100 mana item and will have around 1400 mana, good for a pvp cleric not speced for quests


http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/3003/screenshot00006ja0.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00006ja0.jpg)

if pic is hard to read just refresh it

[Cecilia]

Looking for a thread to show off your uber builds? Heres the place, first, I'll start.. :) note* not maxed hp yet



http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8375/ddopicrh5.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ddopicrh5.jpg)

Uber? How long does it take your battlecleric to manasponge your own meager 900 sp away?

[Austinb1235]

once again im going to say, hes going to have about 1400, 30 wis and greater spell power item, and ill say again, he wasnt made only for quests and even with his 900 sp sometimes i go and quest with it, still has mana to spare. the hound,shroud,vod i have 1200 mana. dont have any problems with mana usually.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

once again im going to say, hes going to have about 1400, 30 wis and greater spell power item, and ill say again, he wasnt made only for quests and even with his 900 sp sometimes i go and quest with it, still has mana to spare. the hound,shroud,vod i have 1200 mana. dont have any problems with mana usually.

So you don't do a lot of party buffing I'm guessing...

[nbhs275]

once again im going to say, hes going to have about 1400, 30 wis and greater spell power item, and ill say again, he wasnt made only for quests and even with his 900 sp sometimes i go and quest with it, still has mana to spare. the hound,shroud,vod i have 1200 mana. dont have any problems with mana usually.


saying a build isnt for questing is about as dumb a thing you can say. So how do you get this gimp piece of trash all the xp to lvl? join groups and afk in the door?

Face it, you need to be good at questing to make a good PvP build, and this build just doesnt have what it really takes to be a true "PvP" build, considering you dont have evasion.

Stupid amount of HP, meet mr lvl 16 sorcerer, he will be doing the 8-900 damage to you this afternoon

Or stupid amount of HP meet real ranger/barbarian, he will be tripping you and your sad AC and beating you like an old drum

Or stupid build meet real battle cleric, he will be easily surviving your spells and rocking your world with spells AND melee

Im also not sure what the point of barb was if your going to a) be a caster and b) not meleeing

Considering fighter would give towershield, and an extra feat, aka toughness. Or pally for a little save boost and sp bonus. OR hell, 16 cleric considering your not meleeing and dont need martial weapons.

Or 2 rogue for evasion, or 2 monk for evasion AND +2 wis.

You just showed up at a gunfight with a bat in hand....

[BankGuy]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=150481

[Austinb1235]

Why would i want evasion? I will never use evasion in quests, and i am level 16 because hes good in quests, i didnt say he wasnt good in quests, i said he wasnt 'made' for quests. and no hes not a tank, took level of barb because of the hp, if i could i would go back and change it.

[MondoGrunday]

i more amazed at the size of some of your chat boxes from those screenies. jesus people, shrink those down a tad, they're blockin half the screen :D

[Austinb1235]

Don't know how your guys hotbars and the stuff on your screen are so tiny :D

[Naso24]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/Naso-DDO/supreme-neg-neg-neg-ss.jpg

Here's my wizard. Since this pic was taken, I have acquired the chattering ring for 3 more AC. Very fun build, but I'd like more HP. Probably going to go with 2 levels of monk at the next cap to get some free toughness and better saves.

[Austinb1235]

nice int, i have never tried a wizzy/tank are they fun?

[nbhs275]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll106/Naso-DDO/supreme-neg-neg-neg-ss.jpg

Here's my wizard. Since this pic was taken, I have acquired the chattering ring for 3 more AC. Very fun build, but I'd like more HP. Probably going to go with 2 levels of monk at the next cap to get some free toughness and better saves.

waste of a chattering ring

[Austinb1235]

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/4202/screenshot00009vv2.th.jpg (http://img135.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00009vv2.jpg)

first wizzy really good in pve, doesnt have any crafted items dont work on him that much

[iruka41]

Why would i want evasion? I will never use evasion in quests, and i am level 16 because hes good in quests, i didnt say he wasnt good in quests, i said he wasnt 'made' for quests. and no hes not a tank, took level of barb because of the hp, if i could i would go back and change it.

Because w/o Evasion, in PvP, you die in a sec from Chain Lightning + Ball Lightning from any casters.
If your build is not made for quests (which is fine by me), you need Evasion, seriouly.

500HP? Laughable for those casters. 1 shot you're outta protection spells and and while you're quick healing yourself and getting protection buffs again, another 2 shots coming and you're dead. If you think you're #2, I'll say EVERY pvp-speced casters are #1.

You say you have stoneskin clickies, which does nothing to casters or those melees/rangers with Transmutors.

You keep saying you're good at quests, well, most capped clerics can solo lv.14 quests, if you didn't know.
Good capped clerics solo lv.16 quests, by melee or by casting or by both. And they are good at PvP, too.
You are nowhere near uber. Uber clerics are excellent at both melee and spell-casting, they are uber in quests AND in pvp.

Stop protecting yourself and face it, the only thing you're better than the other clerics is HP. (Which is meaningless to casters anyways)

P.S. I wouldn't put these flames unless OP was 'show-off'. It's an action-reaction.

[Twerpp]

Good point Ginseng. Its true guys, with evasion 200 hp can last longer than 500 without.

[Twerpp]

lol, thats not a Cleric.......

This is a Cleric
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9266/allendaleselfbuffedsu9.th.jpg (http://img227.imageshack.us/my.php?image=allendaleselfbuffedsu9.jpg)


Hey that cap actually looks good on him. Stylish and functional I might add.

[iruka41]

AC doesnt really matter to me, i just like to have a decent amount, i only need ac when im fighting rangers but i have alot of hp so that takes care of that and my stone skin clickie, tanks wont stand a chance. In quests i usually have a 45+ ac

Tanks will laugh at your stoneskin with their transmuting, adamantine, or mineral II weapons.
If you're protecting any damage from your stoneskin, that's because those melees are new to PvP.

[Austinb1235]

Personnaly, i dont think clerics are made to tank or melee, even if they are a melee cleric build. i dont need evasion, pvp to some people only is based around hp, evasion, and being able to cast spells. for example a level 16 caster vs a level 16 tank, whos going to win? he can solo level 14 quests like pop, madstone and crucible, yeah crucible he can solo. its easier than you think. I never said my stoneskin clickies were helpfull in pvp, i just have them, i didnt plan on having them. i just was making my item i wanted to make. I would like to fight you or who ever is saying evasion is the way to go. to solo quests all you need is good damage on blade barrier and concentration, or quicken.max and emp. big fight, just max emp extend a blade barrier, 1 min there all dead, so you dont have a great build to solo alot of quests

[Gunga]

Good point Ginseng. Its true guys, with evasion 200 hp can last longer than 500 without.

You would know this because you have 500 hp on any of your toons? You don't have 500 hitpoints combined on 3 of your toons.

[DoctorWhofan]

Ok, what do you do in quests? To you tank or cast? Buff or heal? I was under the impression that you tank.

[Austinb1235]

Yeah that is what everybody was talking about, people passing through my stoneskin, no its just a buff people. I heal, i just do mass buffs. dont tank at all and dont kill anything, dont know if i can kill in shroud and those quests lol.

[Spisey]

Here ya go...

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z204/aw101373/ScreenShot00022.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z204/aw101373/ScreenShot00037.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z204/aw101373/ScreenShot00034.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z204/aw101373/ScreenShot00027.jpg

Close enough, too late to get the sizing right. :D

[Austinb1235]

wow i get confused even looking at that lol whats that pick in the second picture with the skull on it?

[iruka41]

You would know this because you have 500 hp on any of your toons? You don't have 500 hitpoints combined on 3 of your toons.

Oh well, I keep deleting my capped toons to make a new one. Currently only have 4 capped and another lv.12, 13, 13.
Just don't have enough space to list all my toons with decription. And I don't want to list just names either. That'd be why there's only 3 in there.

Honestly I have never had 500HP toon yet, but really, do I have to expirience everything by myself to support my opinion based on what I've seen so many times in tavern pvps?
Though, nowadays I'm working on a new dwarven evasion imtimitank who will have 500, he's at lv.6 now :)

Btw, combining my 3 toons down there will be over 900... if that was what you're saying by 'combining'...
With green steels it will go up over 1000.

[Spisey]

wow i get confused even looking at that lol whats that pick in the second picture with the skull on it?

That is the allusive deathnip.... :D

[DoctorWhofan]

Yeah that is what everybody was talking about, people passing through my stoneskin, no its just a buff people. I heal, i just do mass buffs. dont tank at all and dont kill anything, dont know if i can kill in shroud and those quests lol.

Without heighten, my cleric (posted on page two of this thread) can take out most stuff in the Vale. Shroud, I'll have to get back to you on that. What I cannot get my brain around is that you say you are good at PvP but you never Killed anything. How about solo'ing? How do you do that? If you are not a combat cleric, what do you do in PvP?

And as to why everyone thinks you are combat type is the insane number HP and no spell points. Not to mention until after the fact that you have a +6 WIS item didn't win any friends either.

PvP is one ofthe least popular things in the game. Even if you like to PvP, it is pointless to do it in this game. So bragging about "#2" means nothing to us, especially telling us about your record in parties. Of course, you may solo all the time, but the statement above and your original post don't quite mesh in tone, so forgive me for being a little harsh.

FYI, I am NOT an uber cleric, nor is my build. But do know I am the right cleric for the job at the time.

[iruka41]

wow i get confused even looking at that lol whats that pick in the second picture with the skull on it?

It is called Deathnip. One of the best one-handed weapon for barbs. 19-20 (x4) Crit Heavypick, with Seeker option.
You can make it by gathering tome pages from the quest: Litany of the Dead.

[Austinb1235]

Well i like pvp, and i ment as in i cant kill anything is death spells, blade barrier i get 200 vale kills in 5 minutes. yeah it has no point but its fun whenever your bored...and your actually good at it.

[iruka41]

Well i like pvp, and i ment as in i cant kill anything is death spells, blade barrier i get 200 vale kills in 5 minutes. yeah it has no point but its fun whenever your bored...and your actually good at it.

Okay now plz tell me, how do you beat your opponent in pvp? I'm really curious.
If you're not damaging physicaly, what spells are you using?

[Austinb1235]

what! lol!! i use searing light, defic vengence, unholy blight, cometfall. what made you think iwasnt using spels?

[Aranticus]

Okay now plz tell me, how do you beat your opponent in pvp? I'm really curious.
If you're not damaging physicaly, what spells are you using?

likely to be nimbus, dietific and searing + cometfall. strategy is to be able to smack them, and hope his 500+ hp can last and top up with a heal if necessary. oh destruction for people who forget deathblock/ward

[iruka41]

Personnaly, i dont think clerics are made to tank or melee, even if they are a melee cleric build. i dont need evasion, pvp to some people only is based around hp, evasion, and being able to cast spells. for example a level 16 caster vs a level 16 tank, whos going to win? he can solo level 14 quests like pop, madstone and crucible, yeah crucible he can solo. its easier than you think. I never said my stoneskin clickies were helpfull in pvp, i just have them, i didnt plan on having them. i just was making my item i wanted to make. I would like to fight you or who ever is saying evasion is the way to go. to solo quests all you need is good damage on blade barrier and concentration, or quicken.max and emp. big fight, just max emp extend a blade barrier, 1 min there all dead, so you dont have a great build to solo alot of quests

Personally, I think there is no such 'not made for' things in DDO. Only imagination limits.
Clerics have ability to use heavy shield, heavy armor,
have buffs for AC, BAB, Saves, DPS,
can heal themselves,
all above makes clerics a perfect tank.

Seriously, if a cleric can change their class icon into another one, I will roll a cleric with starting WIS of 8.
The expectation for cleric symbol is preventing clerics from becoming tanks. That's all. Nothing to do with their 'potential'.

You said lv.16 pvp 'caster vs. tank'.
If the tank has high reflex with evasion, caster's spell selection is seriously limited.
Too bad that doesn't mean much. But think about this:

PvP: Caster w/o evasion vs. caster w/ Evasion.
Guess who wins :) Evasion is one of the core key in PvP IMO.

And yes you said just like this:

and my stone skin clickie, tanks wont stand a chance.

And now you're saying "I never said my stoneskin clickies were helpfull in pvp"???


Edit: Heck, you want more HP, try a new build with 2 levels of monk, instead of barb. you get 2 more feats (which can go into toughness) along with free evasion. Then you might want to say you love your evasion in pvp.

[Austinb1235]

destruction and death spells, flesh to stone and stun are for noobs :) stoneskin helps a little, incase some tanks dont have ada, or trasmuting with them, i like to always have stoneskin on. caster vs a tank with evasion is easy, sorchign ray polar ray or hypno then scorch ray or magic missle.

[iruka41]

what! lol!! i use searing light, defic vengence, unholy blight, cometfall. what made you think iwasnt using spels?

What made you think I was thinking you're not using spells?
I only said I was curious what spells you're using. :eek:

Hmm. Cometfall will be the most hateful spell for my WF sorc lol.

[Austinb1235]

The only reason why clerics are so good in pvp, is 1. there is no resistances to there spells. 2 they have so many spells.

[Aranticus]

What made you think I was thinking you're not using spells?
I only said I was curious what spells you're using. :eek:

nah pretty much 1 trick monkey. almost all pvp end up that way becoz of how some of these spells cannot be evaded which is why i never step into pvp unless to test spells or abilities. also pvp is skewed that who ever enters 1st is at a disadvantage. the next player can check out what the buffs are and set up accordingly, more important, you can target the 1st guy and launch a spell 1st

[Twerpp]

You would know this because you have 500 hp on any of your toons? You don't have 500 hitpoints combined on 3 of your toons.

LOL youre right I dont believe in hit points! A bigger container for clerics to waste their time filling best to not lose them in the first place!!! I'd rather focus on a build that doesn't need more than 300-400. And more than one toughness feat is gimp! And even one toughness feat on a toon without a toughness enhancements line is gimp!

I do have one toon with just over 500. 1 toughness feat.

[Austinb1235]

My guy has 1 toughness feat, 2 including minos legens feat. is the toon with over 500 hp a barbarian or a fighter twerp?

[DoctorWhofan]

Do me a favour next time, take a picture WITHOUT buffs on. It skews the numbers, especially we cannot see the buff being hidden or cropped. Try not to stand next to a Pally, too.

My next questions, why barbarian? WHat was so useful in Barbarian to have as a cleric who heals and puts up BBs?

Why a tonne of CON? I mean CON is nice but to have so much, more than the average Tank is a little much.

WHy the DEX?

Outside, you have chosen these three to augment your SAVES. WHich means you will drop less, HOWEVER, your killing power suffers greatly.

To avoid your BB, is to run into one and STOP. I heal myself THen cast several empowered spells on you, such as Greater command, Cometfall, and Destruction to find out what effects you. Just about when your BB is up, I'll cast my own, so you cannot get near me. Of course, with your hit points... Ok, you run up to try to break my concentration. No joy, either with spells or with hitting me. BTW, that BB is empowered and extended. So it took about 200 hp out of you while I dance out. You can choose to stay still, but if I back far enough, another will go up, plus tossing some more spells at you along the way.

Ok, your saves make sense in PvP, but in combat... You admitted that you cannot kill anything with death spells. I bet all your enhancements are tied up in CON and WIS stats, not to mention all the Dwarven magic barrier stuff and mana. No healing enhancements, nor spell enhancing enhancements. Your gear is built towards survival, not towards winning. There's a classthat does that already, and built right (granted that's rough) the PALADIN can do what you can do more effectivily and with less effort. Of course, healing isn't part of the package of a pally, but what you have is a survivor, not a winner.

Again, my Gimped Paladin has a high CON and CHA, and a 24 STR. When you run out of mana trying to kill stuff that you cannot, you are going to run away. My Pally can actually kill stuff just using the the sword spell he gets.


To make a point, you are looking towards survival in a PvP world, which you may have, but you are NOT a team playing cleric, or a solo'ing one either. The inablity to spell kill anything effectivilly is going to hurt you dramatically. Clerics are the most powerful casters in the game, literally because they can heal themselves and take damage. Simply put, place my cleric and your cleric on a map in, say the vale, and tell them to run to point B. Not only will my cleric have more kills, I will arrive there quicker and have more mana left over. It's mana efficancy. IMHO

[Austinb1235]

When i am setting up BB in the vale when im bored and i run out of mana, i get out my greataxe and kill it, its not that im useless without my mana.and exactly im built to survive, my healing is good also. and heres what i think, why wasite 40 points of mana for a chance to kill them, when you could waiste labout 85 mana with a blade barrier(max and empowerd). does about 200 dmg each time they hit the barrier, run past everything and set up a BB, no death spells are really needed. in some situations you will, but i cant think of a situation that you would rather do 40 mana for a chance of them to die than to do blade barrier

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Personnaly, i dont think clerics are made to tank or melee, even if they are a melee cleric build. i

If you don't plan to melee, why give a 16 str and a level of barbarian...the more you talk, the less sense your build makes.

Oh, and BTW you are simply wrong. A well built fighting cleric is devistating.

[Aranticus]

When i am setting up BB in the vale when im bored and i run out of mana, i get out my greataxe and kill it, its not that im useless without my mana.and exactly im built to survive, my healing is good also. and heres what i think, why wasite 40 points of mana for a chance to kill them, when you could waiste labout 85 mana with a blade barrier(max and empowerd). does about 200 dmg each time they hit the barrier, run past everything and set up a BB, no death spells are really needed. in some situations you will, but i cant think of a situation that you would rather do 40 mana for a chance of them to die than to do blade barrier

1. if your max emp bb is doing only 200 per tick, you need to recheck what you missed out

2. bb generally is worst against archers, you need in insta kill spell for them

there are situations where bb does not work and if you cant think of one, then prolly you are not suited to playing a cleric

[iruka41]

nah pretty much 1 trick monkey. almost all pvp end up that way becoz of how some of these spells cannot be evaded which is why i never step into pvp unless to test spells or abilities. also pvp is skewed that who ever enters 1st is at a disadvantage. the next player can check out what the buffs are and set up accordingly, more important, you can target the 1st guy and launch a spell 1st

Tavern PvP in this game is just plane broken. That's why I only use it to chill out w/ my friends.
(Death match or CTF type is a quite different story though)

Oh, I see a good point in this build though. He can be immune to the Power Word: Stun.
(To the OP, every cleric below 450HP just can't beat wizards over 50% rate for one simple reason. the Power Word: Stun. Actually it is far less than 50% cause Enlarge Spell feat is preferred by casters more than clerics.)

BTW, when I didn't pick up the Force of Personality in my WIS6 sorcerer, the most frustrating spell was Greater Command, not those unevadable DPS spells... Didn't care about those spells listed when I was on my WF casters, in DPS race, WF caster can deal more damage, WF caster can repair more damage, etc... It was always CC spells if a cleric had a chance to beat me.

I'm on your side anyways, and that's why I refuse to participate further in [who's and what's better in pvp] thingy. That just makes me feel silly. PvP was the least thing I wanted Dev to put in DDO.

[Austinb1235]

lorien, my str is really 8, +6 from leviks bracers and +2 from rage, and barb level for hp, and for the second time if i had a chance i would go bck and change it

[Twerpp]

Death match is broken too, the mana regen even though its small makes one on one broken.

[Austinb1235]

CTF- the flag gets bugged alot, and your fighting people in the deathmatch and your mana gains 10 sp like every 3 seconds, that should be like 100 per 3 seconds, 1 or 2 fights and your outa mana!

[iruka41]

Clerics are the most powerful casters in the game, literally because they can heal themselves and take damage.

A WF sorcerer stops by and *shrug* and moves on... :D
(Not that I disagree, I love every self-healing magic-user with quicken spell too, even a ranger or a bard too hehe)

[iruka41]

Death match is broken too, the mana regen even though its small makes one on one broken.

But you can team up, that's the difference :)

[Austinb1235]

this thread is starting to get boring :P lol

ok everyone take a pic of there greensteel item and post it!

[Arkat]

Thread already exists.

Go here:

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=1689606#post1689606

[Austinb1235]

how do you guys change the backround of the boxes, like your inventory it has a pic in middle and the corners are different, how do you change that(first picture in that link Arkat)

[DoctorWhofan]

A WF sorcerer stops by and *shrug* and moves on... :D
(Not that I disagree, I love every self-healing magic-user with quicken spell too, even a ranger or a bard too hehe)

Ok, IF you are not a WF. OK! Happy now? :p btw, I a have a level 15 sorcerer, too.

[Braegan]

saying a build isnt for questing is about as dumb a thing you can say.



Priceless, almost sig worthy. I personally don't pvp, no loot or exp to be had. If I am bored and nothing is going on there are lots of things I can solo to pass the time (i.e. Bloodstone chests). Meh, I guess I will stick with my build of a cleric with alot of mana that can tank.

[iruka41]

how do you guys change the backround of the boxes, like your inventory it has a pic in middle and the corners are different, how do you change that(first picture in that link Arkat)

Custom UI.
There's a menu in this forum too :)

[Naso24]

nice int, i have never tried a wizzy/tank are they fun?

Defeinitely 100% wizard. I don't tank but do like having some AC, enough that it mitigates non-raid damage and a little in raids (except elite orthons). The strength is due to a +3 tome, raged, and my tier 3 Int item having +6 STR on it too. I mainly need above base to carry all the repeating crossbows. I have a full set, and do use them in quests where they will help save mana (disruptor, smiter, banisher, curse, shattermantle, holy burst pure good, greater banes). If I was rebuilding, I would have more CON at the expense of DEX, or just make a WF wiz.

[adamkatt]

nah pretty much 1 trick monkey. almost all pvp end up that way becoz of how some of these spells cannot be evaded which is why i never step into pvp unless to test spells or abilities. also pvp is skewed that who ever enters 1st is at a disadvantage. the next player can check out what the buffs are and set up accordingly, more important, you can target the 1st guy and launch a spell 1st

This is why you use the pvp arenas.. and not the lame tavern pits.. Either way pvp should just be taken out of game.. Battlefield type games are much better pvp wise. doom, quake, quake 3, dod, bfv, unreal these games are the kind of pvp that takes great hand eye cord and are actually fun...