Ranged barb. working on final feat choice

[redoubt]

I'm thinking of a few things for the last feat.

1. power attack
2. imp crit: slash
3. toughness
4. iron will

What do you all think?


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StrongBow Noaxe
Level 16 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(14 Barbarian \ 2 Ranger)
Hit Points: 252
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 15
Reflex: 15
Will: 3

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 17 20
Dexterity 19 26
Constitution 12 16
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 15
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 15

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot

Level 2 (Ranger)

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot

Level 4 (Barbarian)

Level 5 (Barbarian)

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot

Level 7 (Barbarian)

Level 8 (Barbarian)

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons

Level 10 (Barbarian)

Level 11 (Barbarian)

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot

Level 13 (Barbarian)

Level 14 (Barbarian)

Level 15 (Barbarian)

Level 16 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage IV
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower I
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower II
Enhancement: Barbarian Willpower III
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Damage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I

[Dark-Star]

Heavy or light repeater without a doubt.

[boldarblood]

I wouldn't take iron will personally. Barbs at end game already have a good will save, especially raged. My dwarf barb with the dwarf enhancements can get over 30 will save versus spells.

[redoubt]

Why a repeater? I was expecting to get told to buff up my melee side, not add more ranged feats. Also, would this be very useful since I would not have rapid reload???

[Turial]

Crit range of 19-20 --> 17-20 --> 15-20 on a repeater with a barb. At a faster base attack speed then a bow you will have crit effects like puncture go off quite a bit more....infact pretty close to a puncturing rapier with out the risk.

[redoubt]

Is it worth having the repeater if I do not have rapid reload?

Should I take rapid reload for speed and accept the -4 to hit?

[Dark-Star]

I don't have rapid reload on my barb, and I find the rate of fire is fine. Then again using the repeater is very situaltional for me, and it comes out mainly when I am soloing, or have to take out mobs at range. You can get away with just a few repeaters: Wounding of Puncturing, Banishing, Holy Burst of Pure Good (with silver bolts), and a crippling/strength sapping/paralysing of puncturing.

[Depravity]

Why a repeater? I was expecting to get told to buff up my melee side, not add more ranged feats. Also, would this be very useful since I would not have rapid reload???

Saw this in a ranger thread the other day - repeater keeps your rate of fire up, so you can keep using all those nice feats you sank into ranged combat.

Basically:
1) Manyshot
2) Switch to repeater while manyshot cools down
3) Goto 1

The repeater has better rate of fire than a base bow, and even gets a little boost from rapid shot iirc.

[redoubt]

I can see how the on-crit effect are going to be better with a repeater.

What about damage? You have to trade bow strength away to use the repeater. You get +2 to crit range (assumes imp crit and not using the silverbow) and faster firing.

[Angelus_dead]

What about damage? You have to trade bow strength away to use the repeater.
The repeater is for situations when damage doesn't matter, like a monster with 28 constitution and 6,000 hitpoints.

Note that the Great Crossbow could also be considered, since although the rate is low it has a bigger crit range than any other kind of ranged weapon. (I doubt that would make up for the slower firing)