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ShadowFox1978
07-13-2008, 01:56 AM
Can some one please explain the decision to not give monks a toughness line? They are teh only class that can take Toughness as a bonus feat. So, why do they not get an enhancment line for it?
Strakeln
07-13-2008, 02:22 AM
Good point, and that would be a nice addition for my monk. :D
Twerpp
07-13-2008, 02:23 AM
Doesnt Way of the Tortoise give HP in the same manner as the toughness line?
Arkat
07-13-2008, 02:31 AM
Doesnt Way of the Tortoise give HP in the same manner as the toughness line?

Yes. It also increases your Concentration.
Solmage
07-13-2008, 02:36 AM
Shrug, for the same reason they also don't get intimidate as a class skill? See, the devs wanted to help palis out to not be at the bottom of the barrel, and they succeeded! =)

::runs and hides from all the monks chasing::
Venar
07-13-2008, 07:26 AM
Way of Tortoise only gives 5 hp per level for a sad diminishing return, compaired to the usuall thoughness line.
For a total of 20 HP, there are stronger ways to go for the cost for sure.
Aspenor
07-13-2008, 08:34 AM
Way of Tortoise only gives 5 hp per level for a sad diminishing return, compaired to the usuall thoughness line.
For a total of 20 HP, there are stronger ways to go for the cost for sure.

Indeed Way of the Tortoise enhancements don't stack with each other so it's just 20 HP. :(
MysticTheurge
07-13-2008, 08:37 AM
Toughness enhancements have been given to classes that get 10 or more hit points per level.

Monks get 8.
Lifespawn
07-13-2008, 04:39 PM
ok mt give monks 10hp per lvl i'm fine with that =P
negative
07-14-2008, 03:54 PM
As much as I'd like to see monks get a toughness enhancement, it does make sence that only D10+ classes get this.

And as pointed out, what monks get get only grants a total of +20 HP at the fourth tier.
MysticTheurge
07-14-2008, 04:41 PM
As much as I'd like to see monks get a toughness enhancement, it does make sence that only D10+ classes get this.

And as pointed out, what monks get get only grants a total of +20 HP at the fourth tier.

And really, +20 vs. +50 is a decent compromise if you ask me.

Not as many as a d10+ class gets, but still more than people who don't have Toughness as a bonus feat.