Sith Lords and Jedi Masters Revisited

[Orrick_The_Undying]

Awhile ago I posted up my Sith Lord builds / Jedi Master Builds [ much respect to the original Jedi builds ] and I'd mentioned revamping them once Monks came out. I was grouping with Chreboom last week and we got to talking about the V 2.0 builds me getting off of my ever fattening rear end and getting around to the V 3.0 revamps, so let's start with Yoda 3.0 ... A.K.A. Yoeda


The idea here was to build with gear/tomes I already have on hand or that are easily obtainable [ somewhat of a departure for me, as I usually like to show MAX potential ]



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Yoeda
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Paladin \ 2 Monk \ 12 Sorcerer)
Hit Points: 193
Spell Points: 1192
BAB: 10\10\15\20
Fortitude: 21
Reflex: 20
Will: 21

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Strength 12 14 14
Dexterity 14 16 18
Constitution 14 16 16
Intelligence 12 12 12
Wisdom 14 14 14
Charisma 14 17 20

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 4
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 4
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 11

Starting Ending Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16) (Level 16)
Balance 6 8 8
Bluff 2 5 5
Concentration 6 22 23
Diplomacy 2 5 5
Disable Device n/a n/a n/a
Haggle 2 5 5
Heal 2 2 2
Hide 2 4 6
Intimidate 2 5 5
Jump 5 11 13
Listen 2 2 4
Move Silently 2 4 6
Open Lock n/a n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a n/a
Repair 1 1 1
Search 1 1 1
Spot 2 2 2
Swim 1 2 2
Tumble 6 12 12
Use Magic Device 4 15 18

Level 1 (Monk)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+2)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)

Level 2 (Paladin)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Aura of Good
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Smite Evil

Level 3 (Paladin)
Skill: Jump (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
Feat: (Automatic) Divine Grace
Feat: (Automatic) Lay on Hands
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Disciple of Pebbles
Enhancement: Disciple of Candles
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I

Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I

Level 5 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Tumble
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded I

Level 6 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Spell (1): Shield
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma I

Level 7 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (1): Magic Missle

Level 8 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Void Strike
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Wand Mastery I

Level 9 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Spell (2): Glitterdust
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded II

Level 10 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (3): Displacement
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)

Level 11 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (2): Scorching Ray
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma II

Level 12 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Spell (4): Stoneskin

Level 13 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Wall of Fire
Spell (3): Fireball
Spell (2): False Life

Level 14 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Spell (5): Dominate Person
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Elemental Manipulation IV
Enhancement: Sorcerer Energy of the Dragonblooded III
Enhancement: Sorcerer Charisma III

Level 15 (Sorcerer)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Spell (5): Cloudkill
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (4): Solid Fog

Level 16 (Sorcerer)
Ability Raise: CHA
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Spell (6): Greater Heroism
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Sorcerer Wand Mastery II
Enhancement: Sorcerer Wand Mastery III



Adjusted Stats

STR : 20
DEX : 24
CON : 22
INT : 12
WIS : 14
CHA : 26

Gear Worn ( Optimum set up )

Head-----Greensteel Helm ( +45 Hp , +6 CON Skills , Stoneskin (2/day) , +5 Protection , Heavy Fortification )
Eyes-----Greensteel Goggles ( Wizardry 6 , +6 CHA Skills , +300 SP , Chain Lightning 2/day , Lightning Storm Guard On Hit Chance of L-Bolt ~600-650 dmg
Neck-----+6 CON Necklace / Silver Flame Talisman ( Deathblock, Protection from Evil, Negative Energy Absorption 10/day )
Trinket---Head of Good Fortune ( +2 Good Luck, Moderate Fortification )
Back-----+6 CHA Cloak
Body-----Blue Dragonscale Robe ( +4 Armor Bonus, Potency VII, Greater Arcane Lore, Spell Penetration VII, Greater Lightning Resistance )
Waist----+6 STR Belt
Arms-----Green Steel Bracers ( All Immunities, Deathblock, Symbol of Weakness X3, Slay Living Guard )
Gloves---+6 DEX Gloves
Feet-----Boots of the Innocent ( Resistance +5, Striding 15% )
Finger1--Anathema ( Magi, Evocation Focus ) / +15 Tumble Ring
Finger2--Ring of Thelis [ Hound of Xoriat ] / Ring of Balance [ Invaders ]
Held1----Mineral 2 Q-Staff ( Holy, Acid Burst , +4 AC , Stoneskin (2/day) , Transmuting , Keen/Impact , Slicing , Mineral (+8 Hardness, +80 Durability )
Held2---- None.. I have to have the Green Lightsaberesque Q-staff..

Saves
F / R / W /
21 / 20 / 21---Taken from Above
+3 / +3 / +3---Adjusted CHA Bonus to saves ( +6 CHA Item )
+3 / +0 / +0---+6 CON Necklace
+0 / +3 / +0---+6 Dex Gloves
+5 / +5 / +5---Boots of The Innocent
+2 / +2 / +2---Head of Good Fortune ( Luck Bonus )
+4 / +4 / +4---Greater Heroism
+1 / +1 / +1---Pally Aura of Good
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39 / 38 / 36 Superb Saves.

Armor Class

10---Base
+7---Dex Bonus
+4---Blue Dragonscale Robe
+1---Pally Aura of Good
+2---Ring of Balance( Natural AC )
+4---Greensteel Shortsword ( Exceptional Bonus )
+1---Haste
+5---+5 Protection Item
+4---Shield Spell
+1---Halfling Racial AC Bonus
+3---Wis Mod [ Monk Levels ]
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42 AC / ETAC 37 ---- Subpar at Best .. But will be Displaced/Stoneskinned as well so that may help survivability..some


To Hit

10 /10 / 15 / 20--------BAB
+5---------------------Greensteel Weapon
+3---------------------Halfling Flank Attack 3
+5---------------------STR Mod
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23 / 23 / 28 / 33 ---Without Divine Power Clickies

16 /16 / 21 / 21 / 26 / 26----BAB [ Using Divine Power Clicky ]
+5--------------------------Greensteel Weapon
+3--------------------------Halfling Flank Attack 3
+5--------------------------STR Mod

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29 / 29 / 34 / 34 / 39 / 39 --BAB Adjusted for Mods + Divine Power Clickies


I've moved from the theoretical to the actual. It should be noted that I'm actually playing and leveling this build as we speak and I am having A BLAST while doing it.

As far as futureproofing, ride the rest out in Sorc.. all the way to 20 [ 16 Sorc/2Pal/2Mnk]. Pick up the racial toughness feat and maximize spell. that's about it.

More to follow, but this'll have to do for now Chreboom,

Yoyo

[Orrick_The_Undying]

reserved for future builds

[Orrick_The_Undying]

reserved for more future builds [ hehehe I love ninja-ing my own posts ]

[Orrick_The_Undying]

I got asked about this build today, so here he is [again]


Yoyo

[Vyctor]

I have one of these type of builds on Ghallanda, his name is Destrukshun, I would highly recommend dropping wisdom entirely and adding to strength. This build is rough to level from about 7-12 but becomes a beast from 14 on. Forget stoneskin and displacement at end game it simply isn't viable. Blur will suffice. Stock up on Divine Power clickies, trust me you're going to need them. I have 15 uses per day. Ditch mental toughness and maximize, pick up quicken and extend...without quicken you will die. The key to this build is quickened reconstruct. (On that note I noticed it wasn't even a wf build...I don't think this will work well as things simply hit too hard at end game to have that few hp and not be able to self heal while having so few hit points)

[Orrick_The_Undying]

I have one of these type of builds on Ghallanda, his name is Destrukshun, I would highly recommend dropping wisdom entirely and adding to strength. This build is rough to level from about 7-12 but becomes a beast from 14 on. Forget stoneskin and displacement at end game it simply isn't viable. Blur will suffice. Stock up on Divine Power clickies, trust me you're going to need them. I have 15 uses per day. Ditch mental toughness and maximize, pick up quicken and extend...without quicken you will die. The key to this build is quickened reconstruct. (On that note I noticed it wasn't even a wf build...I don't think this will work well as things simply hit too hard at end game to have that few hp and not be able to self heal while having so few hit points)

I agree w/ all of your points, and to that end I was just elightened, yesterday, to the prospect of rolling this as a WF. I'm completely enticed by the idea and looked to roll one up soon. This build concept [ in halfling form ] is about 9-12 months old. It was tossing around a few " theme " build ideas for fun and this guy came out of that. I merely reposted it for a curious member on Sarlona whom I grouped with a week ago.

I haven't min/maxed the concept totally yet, that'll come with the WF version.

[k1dwizard]

so we are going from a yoda build to a general grivious build? wouldnt that mean you needed to go twf? well he actually doesnt use the force only the weapons of a jedi? so now that i have completly contadicted myself, doesnt going wf change the idea of the yoda build?

[Orrick_The_Undying]

so we are going from a yoda build to a general grivious build? wouldnt that mean you needed to go twf? well he actually doesnt use the force only the weapons of a jedi? so now that i have completly contadicted myself, doesnt going wf change the idea of the yoda build?

General Grievous.. I like that.

And it's not a Yoda [ only ] build per se. It was moreso a concept, buidling off of the old Jedi / Darkside Jedi builds from a year or so ago. I've actually done a few different builds off of this whole Sith Lords / Jedi Masters concept...let's see...hmm.. here's the roster;

Yoeda 1.0 { Sorc 12 / Pal 3 / Mnk 1-- Halfling}
Yoeda 2.0 { Sorc 12 / Pal 2 / Mnk 2-- Halfling}
Exar Kun { Sorc 12 / Pal 3 / Ftr 1--Drow }
Ulic Qel'droma { Sorc 12 / Pal 3 / Ftr 1--Human }
Fredon Nad { Sorc 12 / Rng 2 / Ftr 2--Drow }

So it seems fitting to try a WF.. I was leaning more towards an IG88 mode, but the General Grievous name works too.. thx for the inspiration.

Yoyo