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Jondallar
06-18-2008, 10:52 AM
Kama user
Could swap out power attack for tw defence 55 AC self buffed
High Lights:
Divine Sacrifice 2 (Crit damage expanded and 7d6 good damage); LoH 3; Exalted Smite 1 (2 not worth it unless you can can unlock ES3); Fists of Light (mass healing burst is like Extra HP); Evasion with Sick saves; BoG3 RoG3 benfits party; fear immunity lvl 3 paladin; Monk Fast Movement

Final Build at 20 will be 15 Paladin / 5 Monk for: BoG4, ES3, Save bonuses at 5lvl intervals, Monk AC bonus; lvl 4 Paladin Spells


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96
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Yoda
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(12 Paladin \ 4 Monk)
Hit Points: 272
Spell Points: 239
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 22
Will: 20
Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 13 18
Dexterity 17 22
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 15 18
Charisma 12 16
Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 4 19.5
Bluff 1 3
Concentration 5 7
Diplomacy 1 3
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle 1 3
Heal 3 4
Hide 4 8
Intimidate 1 3
Jump 2 9
Listen 3 6
Move Silently 4 8
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 -1
Spot 3 4
Swim 2 4
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Notable Equipment
Trinket: fail of
Bracers: Chaosguarde
Level 1 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse

Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Paladin)

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack

Level 8 (Paladin)

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Paladin)

Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 13 (Paladin)

Level 14 (Paladin)

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil III
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil IV
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar I
Enhancement: Paladin Energy of the Templar II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma III
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Yaga_Nub
06-18-2008, 10:53 AM
Yoda != halfling.

WeaselKing
06-18-2008, 11:09 AM
Yoda != halfling.

Well then I say that add Gnomes just for this build.

Alcides
06-18-2008, 11:18 AM
Yoda is clearly a leprechaun!

Borror0
06-18-2008, 10:05 PM
Kama user
Could swap out power attack for tw defence 55 AC self buffed

You are awared that keeping your bonus to AC is uninteded, right?

GeneralDiomedes
06-18-2008, 10:09 PM
You are awared that keeping your bonus to AC is uninteded, right?

Quick, everyone build one of these so the devs are afraid to change it.

Borror0
06-18-2008, 10:27 PM
Quick, everyone build one of these so the devs are afraid to change it.

/whisper Evasion

wolfy42
06-18-2008, 11:38 PM
Um he is not doing anythign that would make him uncentered therefore nothing that would make him lose his AC bonuses.

He is using monk weapons (kamas).

And wearing robes.


Also his AC would be higher then he listed....and if he wanted to grab CE it could be much higher (but requires a 12 int or at least 11 int to start). The AC would be much higher if he didn't add his level up points into strength instead of dex (still boggled by that decision.

With his starting stats he could have a 17 base + 4 level + 3 tome + 6 item + 2 halfling enh + 2 air stance = 34 dex

And a 15 base + 1 monk + 6 item + 2 tome = 24 wisdom

You could add more by using crafted +9 dex weapon in 1 hand and insight bonus in the off hand..but we'll skip that Since you want as much damage as possible.

Total AC then ends up being (Without CE)

10 base
01 halfling
01 centered
12 dex
07 wisdom
07 WDSR (could get 8 with bracer but not as good as using chaos guards)
06 dodge
03 natural
05 protection
04 insight
04 paladin aura
=60 AC

Using the shield clickie off your robe or shield scrolls (you have the cha for it with just 1/2 your lvl in UMD easily) that is 64 without using TWD.

Robes mean evasion works fine, no worries about being centered (as long as you use monk weapons) and you can use a stance and build up ki and use ki attacks (and you have the monk levels for FoL).

Personally I don't see any reason to take the 4th monk level though.....your way better off takeing either 2 monk and 2 fighter (I already posted that build before) or taking 3 monk (for FoL) and 1 fighter lvl.

Borror0
06-18-2008, 11:46 PM
And wearing robes.

hehe, I read armor.

Jondallar
06-18-2008, 11:57 PM
I took the 4th lvl of monk to get the extra +1 to flurry of blows and mistakenly thought you need 4 lvls for FoL.

However taking that into account I agree that 1 lvl fighter for the extra feat might be useful...twd maybe. Or simply taking more lvls of Paladin as I like the power of the new high lvl enhancements.

Ideally though i would like to see the build go 15 Paladin/5monk making use of the bonues that occur at every 5 lvls a specific class plus the monk AC bonus and Bog4 would be available

I added strength at lvl ups to aid in Damage...Kama's are pretty wimpy and they dont make w/p kama's so need to up the dps for more balance... 60 AC is plenty and the to hit is pretty good where I have the dex score +3 df, +1 halfling size.

Borror0
06-19-2008, 12:02 AM
Total AC then ends up being (Without CE)

It can be 3 pts higher now: Icy Ramen + 8 AC Bracers

Inspire
06-19-2008, 12:14 AM
Icy Ramen

??

Borror0
06-19-2008, 12:20 AM
??

I meant Icy Raiment (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00001tb9.jpg), lol.

Venar
06-19-2008, 12:22 AM
I find the HP to be rather on the very low end. I melee type under 300 is unacceptable...
The level of fighter could probably allow for an extra thoughness.

Inspire
06-19-2008, 12:47 AM
I meant Icy Raiment (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot00001tb9.jpg), lol.

Where Does That Drop Borr?

Borror0
06-19-2008, 12:54 AM
Where Does That Drop Borr?

GoP

Blazer
06-19-2008, 01:08 AM
Icy Ramen

Mmmm, I think I used to eat this in college when I was poor. That's the 10 cent/package soup, right? ;)

/much love Borror0, just playing

Hasteclicky
06-19-2008, 01:12 AM
I hope your gonna be able to fit in the nightforged darkhelm. that's the most yoda looking helm i've seen.

Borror0
06-19-2008, 01:15 AM
That's the 10 cent/package soup, right? ;)

hehe, useful when you hvae only 10$ 'til Tuesday... xD

Jondallar
06-19-2008, 02:39 AM
I find the HP to be rather on the very low end. I melee type under 300 is unacceptable...
The level of fighter could probably allow for an extra thoughness.

272 w/o: con item (48), gfl (32), minos (18), draconic (10) for an extra 108 and a total of 380 hp

Venar
06-19-2008, 02:52 AM
Ah, didn't realise the gear wasent included.
Add shroud item for 400, nice then.

wolfy42
06-19-2008, 04:04 AM
FoL even if you are going to be centered isn't that useful...I mean...it's a bit of extra healing.....but if you take only 2monk levels and 14 paladin you gain exalted smite III.....which does let you spam smites a bit faster and boosts your dual kamas crit range to a decent lvl (x4). Sadly even with improved crit slashing and exalted smite III you still only have a 18-20 crit range on your kamas.

Personally I thik if your not going to snag 15 paladin levels...going past 12 is not really worth it still. That leaves 4-5 paladin lvls to play with (12 pally lvls gives you um....exalted smite II I think it was .....although it might have been divine sacrifice 2...whichever it is worth it unless you need the 3rd lvl).

2 monk lvls minimum makes sense to get both bonus feats and +1 wisdom along with evasion.

3....you can take if you really want FoL. Right now though a pally can use other weapons besides monk ones without losing a ton...and doing so makes FoL much less useful. I believe as long as a monk does not wear armor...or use a shield he should not lose his wisdom bonus to AC according to DnD rules...so even if they do change the wisdom bonus to AC while wearing armor/shield thing later...you can still probably use non-monk weapons and retain your wisdom bonus to AC.

You would lose 1 AC for not being centered....and another AC for not being able to use a stance...but thats it.

And you could use say 2 rapiers instead of 2 kamas.....(although 2 vorpal kamas are still excellent to pull out from time to time...you won't need improved crit for them though...so the rapiers are the way to go)

Rapiers do look a bit more like small lightsabers as well....especially when they are glowing:)

To bad they don't have a good green skin color for halflings though.

Also I understand where you coming from on the strength...but I do think adding to dex instead of strength will add more to the build long term. Grab 2 fighter lvls and a 12 base strength and you can reach a decent end point on strength end game.

12 base + 3 tome + 1 fighter + 6 item = 22 strength

That is +6 dmg on primary and +3 on offhand.

Pumping 4 points into strength on level up only boosts your dmg by 3 points....combined (2 on primary 1 on offhand)...which is nothing compared to the other dmg you will be doing (especially with kamas with such a low crit multiplier/range).

4 points into dex though is 2 more ac, 2 more reflex saves (ok I admit..your only going to fail on a 1 anyway but still), 2 more AB (again probably will hit on anything but a 1 usually even with PA going).

I guess it's really only a difference between a tiny bit more damage...and a tiny bit more AC when you look at your end game.

Still 10% less chance to hit....could be a big factor....not sure if 3 more dmg per attack round when your hitting even with dual kamas for 60+ (without using smites or sacrifice) is worth it.

Vaypor
06-19-2008, 04:06 AM
I haven't seen any WoP kamas either, but, I have 2 wounding/enfeeblers in the bank for next lvl to for twf. Not the same, but certianly not bad w/ IC. Btw, thx for sharing the Icy Ramen :), er raiment w/ us and where it drops. And the build looks solid and fun, and for me, it's all about fun....now where am I gonna get more character slots......

wolfy42
06-19-2008, 04:10 AM
Yeah thanks for posting the icey Ramin BoRRow:)

Now I just have to get me one:)

Course that means I have to get +8 armor bracers too blah.......

Oh well good to have goals.

Accelerando
06-19-2008, 01:22 PM
And to think Coldest vouched for you.

For shame cold... for shame.

Anastasios
06-19-2008, 01:28 PM
I never vouched for him on Mabar, nor do I vouche for him on Argo, and I still don't know why I am guilded with this guy-JonD you have taken your love of the halfling too far, by combining it with your love for shriveled old green aliens, for shame man, for shame.

Take it to Ghallanda when you make it for the love of all things Pally...

Jondallar
06-22-2008, 12:18 PM
> AC =
> 10 Base
> 7 Armor bracer
> 4 Dodge robe GoP
> 5 Protection
> 9 Dex
> 1 Dodge feat
> 3 Natural (seal of earth/ bs pot)
> 7 from monk wisdom (maybe more)
> 1 halfling
> 4 Shield Clicky/pot
> 3 Bulwark
> 1 Alchemical Bonus (Armor)
> 1 Paladin
> 1 Monk (centred)
> 4 Greensteel Insight
> ------------------------------------
> 61 Standing Self Buffed, 62 w/ TWDefense, 57 in TW Vorpal mode


> 1 Dodge (Haste)
> 2 Recitation
> 4 Bardsong
> 3 Dodge Chattering Ring
> 2 Natural - Ranger
> 1 Full Pally BoG4
> AC = 74 (71 is reasonable achievement without 2 much trouble)

Jondallar
06-22-2008, 01:19 PM
Gear:
Head: Minos Legens (Heavy Fort/ Toughness)
Neck: +6 Wisdom
Cloak: +6 Charisma
Bracer: +7 Armor
Body: Icy Raiment
Shield: Greensteel Insight +4 ac kama
Trinket: Mummified Bat/ Head of Good fortune/ Voice of the Master ( not included in calculations)
Ring 1: +5 Protection
Ring 2:+6 Strength
Boots: FF/Striding/Jumping ect
Belt: +6 Constitution
Gloves: +6 Dexterity

To Hit:
Bab +15/+15/+20/+25/+25 (plus GTWF extra 2 attacks)
+9 Dex (Finesse)
+5 Greensteel Kama's
-5 Power Attack
+2 Monk (lvl 4 Flurry of Blows)
+1 Halfling
+3 Divine Favor
-2 TWF
+28/+28/+33/+38/+38

Buffed
+4 GH
+1 Haste
+2 Recitation
+__ Bard


Saves: (w/ GoP robe +3 resist)
Fort: 28 (31) Reflex:28 (31) Will: 26 (29)

Devilgoat
06-28-2008, 11:45 AM
Your mate Ram-mices told me that your build is gimped because it is not human and doesn't have all the healing amplification enhancements for maximising your FoL. 1-3dmg per hit is ubeh.

Love your work.