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Knightrose
05-20-2008, 03:39 PM
You max out your character(s) levels. Attain the most powerful gear. Cap your Favor. Clean out all the raids obtaining all the items you wanted. And generally, wreak the benefits from every corner of the game.

Now what?

DDO I think is the only MMO I've ever played where I felt like I 'beat' the game.

Ok so I'm not making a stark revelation. Most people already know of the lack in end-game content.

What should Turbine do to keep capped players interested? Should they just wait through two month periods for successive updates? Re-roll to the end of time?

Most of the end-game 'adventure' in DDO seems to come from the player not the game. So what do you do to keep things interesting, or do you do anything?

CSFurious
05-20-2008, 03:41 PM
or go check out AOC

such is the way of the curious MMO player

i would also suggest going to another server for a while & playing, you will experience the game a little differently than you currently do not surrounded by your buddies & your capped characters' shiny loot

later

Turial
05-20-2008, 03:41 PM
So what do you do to keep things interesting, or do you do anything?

I charm hyenas out in the desert and make them fight each other.

Muirtach
05-20-2008, 03:41 PM
Hide and go seek raid parties in the city

Laith
05-20-2008, 03:44 PM
what's funny is that it felt like i "beat" WoW and CoH long before i even capped my first toon... i guess doing the same thing from level1 onward does that to me. ;)

in DDO, i feel like i could always be doing better. My only guess is that it's the active combat.

generally though, when i get disillusioned by my current MMO: a break is in order.

Talon_Moonshadow
05-20-2008, 03:50 PM
I'm still waiting to do the Abbott. :(

But in my case, I've made a bunch of other chars and taking my time leveling them up.

There's still a few quests I need on elite with my main , and I still need certain collectibles, or raid loot.....etc.

But yeah, I know how you feel.

For now, I log on with my main, and check the LFM's......then log another toon and wait for Mod 7.

Blazer
05-20-2008, 04:44 PM
I charm hyenas out in the desert and make them fight each other.

Careful, isn't that how Mike Vick got in trouble? :p

bigal4458
05-20-2008, 04:45 PM
I have to admit...i thought this was going to be a Paladin thread...

sigtrent
05-20-2008, 04:47 PM
Well, if you like the game and truly feel like you've done it all, I'd suspend my account, play something else until a couple of expansions have come out and the cap goes to 20, then come back and play some more.

Or just scale back how much DDO you play and play a few other games as well. I just went back and played NWN 2 and it was really a lot of fun. Some great dialog and characters in there as well as lots of fun character options. The only down side is it seems to take some pretty heavy iron to make it play well, I found it unplayable until I got a new system recently.

Kalari
05-20-2008, 05:07 PM
while I agree with some of the other posters about maybe taking a break if thats not what you want to do have you considered the mentoring option? I know some players dont want to babysit other players but youd be suprize how many vets ive met that get a kick out of bringing on their big guns to show others the ropes. Heck I think its why alot of the guys in my guild bother signing on any more. They feel like masters teaching novices the ins and outs of the game, they watch as the newer players learn the ropes and get a kick when we go into a quest for the first time watching as new stuff unfolds. Sure you may have run everything into the ground and know the ins and outs and have the ubber pulls but there is always newer aspects to the game and seeing it with newer people maybe the kick you need. I dunno if its for you though just a suggestion that could give you a bit of purpose or want to sign in from time to time.

Tyrande
05-20-2008, 05:18 PM
I would suggest role playing with Perma Death rules if you get bored.

i.e. If you die in combat and not raised by a cleric, you delete your character including all his or her gears and re-roll a new character.

unionyes
05-20-2008, 05:22 PM
I have been pondering this as well. I have a sorcerer 16, a fighter 13, a cleric 14, and a rogue 15. The four 'traditional' PnP classes, all higher level, and I am not so much a grinder looking for that uber loot or item. So far with these four characters I have been able to pretty much hop on and play whatever I feel like playing, role wise, for a party.

Of course, like most people, I have been doing the new stuff faster than it comes into the game. I avoided doing the Shroud forever (first run last night), just so there would be something to look forward to.

I have a couple ideas for builds (with, as usual, lots of consulting on the forums), which should keep me entertained. Monks will be fun, although I will probably not join the herd of monks the first day of the mod, other than to play around some, then will probably wait for a bit to start in on one in a serious way myself. I may try and make a Ranger, or a Wizard, or a Bard, there are some good build ideas I would like to try out there.

I am also looking forward to getting a full server of capped characters of various classes, and starting 'over' again on a new server. No twinking, no 32 pt builds to play with at first, no plat in the mail, just a toon and a dream. Of course I would still play with my friends on my original server, but I am already starting to miss The Butchers Path, Durks got a Secret, The Kobolds New Ringleader, and Deleras.

And if all else fails, I PUG so much that I am always running into a build that makes me think 'I could do that so much better', can always make one of those kinds of builds........

Merkinsal
05-20-2008, 07:35 PM
I found such a build yesterday. Not sure what it is exactly lol, but I saw two players in a raid with similar combinations that just played great and I never would have guessed that would have been true. I think I am going to have fun working out the details.

Samadhi
05-20-2008, 07:53 PM
You max out your character(s) levels. Attain the most powerful gear. Cap your Favor. Clean out all the raids obtaining all the items you wanted. And generally, wreak the benefits from every corner of the game.

Now what?

DDO I think is the only MMO I've ever played where I felt like I 'beat' the game.

Ok so I'm not making a stark revelation. Most people already know of the lack in end-game content.

What should Turbine do to keep capped players interested? Should they just wait through two month periods for successive updates? Re-roll to the end of time?

Most of the end-game 'adventure' in DDO seems to come from the player not the game. So what do you do to keep things interesting, or do you do anything?

The funny thing is - this is "kind of" the first time that I've had end level blues. Previously, as soon as I felt it come on, I would invent a new, twisted build idea that had to be built, leveled, and tested at end game. But now there are no slots left for experimenting without

a) buying another account - which will never happen on the principle that if I am going to pay two montly subs - they won't be for the same game

b) play another server - also will not happen, pretty much the only reason I have not left this game is the people I play with

So in answer to your question; I really don't know what to do now. I'm praying that we will get more character slots either because of monks or as a premium service. Otherwise I will either continue to be bored or move on; nothing else to be done.

Twerpp
05-20-2008, 09:03 PM
But the princess is in another castle...

Manko-ALE
05-20-2008, 09:16 PM
i would like to have a mansion or a castle, i would like to put art in it and create or buy stuff to furnish it inside and out... this is at lotro , why cant i have it here... i would buy a crazy big house/mansion/castle, have chickens in front , have servants, have a mailbox there and a storage/loot room to put the goodies...for me , this game has a lot of goofing around time that is not being properly utilized..."sorry guys, cant go on a reaver run , i have to go and buy some kobold food"... that kind of thing

ultimately an adventure/dungeon builder from the player base would be excellent...

moorewr
05-20-2008, 09:38 PM
Thanks to small children and many other distractions.. it took me 16 months to get that "capped" feeling.. I tinker with builds and most of all spend less time in the game. My characters are family to me, I just don't need to see them every day now that they've grown up.

The key thing is to only log in when you feel like it, and log out when you're bored. Seems like simple advice, but it is profoundly important. :cool:

totmacher
05-20-2008, 09:38 PM
revise the keying strategy for the dragon and demon queen raids

the ability to roll some of this old raid loot into a limited crafting atmosphere

the integration of attainable "titles" for things done, like "Kobold Killer" - "Killed 1000 kobolds over his career"
or "Champion of the Silver Flame" - "Destroyed a combined total of 100 vampires and liches"
or "Raid Paragon" - "Done over 150 raids on this toon"

the title would go right below your name or to the right of it and would be very simple to implement once they get the tracking stuff working

arminius
05-20-2008, 09:43 PM
Use the "show me the money" and "there is no cow level" cheat codes multiple times, then fight the whole server at once!

;)

Seriously tho, I'd agree with the other posters who say, "take a break." The primary reason I still love the game is that I never have enough time to play it. If I were single or unemployed or something else that gave me more time in game, I'd have "won the game" and needed to take a long break by now too.

_

Turial
05-20-2008, 10:01 PM
No animals were harmed or otherwise treated poorly.
Careful, isn't that how Mike Vick got in trouble? :p

Aranticus
05-20-2008, 10:55 PM
i have 6 capped toons, a fighter, pally, cleric, wiz, bard and ranger. i can say i've done all the content. favor wise, i just need elite abbot and elite shroud (have both on hard). do i feel bored. yes and no.

there are so much i can do with my current toons. helping guidies, teaching new players, looting more, etc. yet sometimes the grind can take its toll. recently i ran the shroud like mad. just so i can cap my bards haggle. max haggle is what i've been trying to achieve. i've got the build, got the +15 haggle item, +6 charisma skill goggles and a +9 charisma longsword. i am just lacking a +3 charisma tome. so what happens when i find it? simple, just find something else to achieve

recently i rolled a barb/rog mix. at L13, i outkilled a L14 fighter in feast of famine elite..... and got ALL the traps at the same time. no i'm not bragging about my skill or my toons here. i'm showing you that there are much more than you can ever dream. set yourself a seemingly impossible task and work towards you goal. you'll find your time more enjoyable

if you do not agree, i'd agree with the rest.... take a break

Strakeln
05-20-2008, 11:10 PM
I used to spawn tons of ghouls and throw down some grease.

Then some of you naughty people made them nerf my scrolls.

parvo
05-21-2008, 12:24 AM
You max out your character(s) levels. Attain the most powerful gear. Cap your Favor. Clean out all the raids obtaining all the items you wanted. And generally, wreak the benefits from every corner of the game.

Now what?

DDO I think is the only MMO I've ever played where I felt like I 'beat' the game.

Ok so I'm not making a stark revelation. Most people already know of the lack in end-game content.

What should Turbine do to keep capped players interested? Should they just wait through two month periods for successive updates? Re-roll to the end of time?

Most of the end-game 'adventure' in DDO seems to come from the player not the game. So what do you do to keep things interesting, or do you do anything?

The solution is permdeath play.

query
05-21-2008, 12:42 AM
Look, if you love it so much, may I request you do something with your current or future characters central to Dungeons and Dragons? ROLE PLAY!


I have spent countless hours just being "in character" hanging around (as for my last play, quite literally off the marketplace wall near the AH and GH character.) Try to ONLY do things in character in text for example (if you have a mic) or try doing OOC (out of character) in parentheses or only in mic. Make up events and challenges you figured out for others to try, maybe even give away prizes?


And yes, that mentoring thing is a kick indeed. Really cool to see when they "get it" instead of sort of stuck finding out in the critical time in a pug they don't know how to do stuff.


Finally, never give up that "what if" PC build. Yes, even I had to go to another server to do it with my limited character spaces, but you know what, I met new people (and an old friend from BBS's years back) and a new guild and found new experiences. I heavly endorse those "what the..." builds just to show how out of the box thinking stregthens an overall party. Once the naysayers stop mentioning my gimpyness in many ways and WATCH my performance, I sometimes see "copies" spring up. Not all things have to be x race or y Batman multi class builds. If you have an idea, try it.


And if you still tire, take a break from your "second job" for a while and get a new perspective when you return from your haitus.


Alas, I cannot spend much time at ALL online currently not job search related (sorry Fellowship people!) But I know creative people, acting IC, and even branching into....the other servers will be waiting for me when I can.


And to celebrate Wednesday's update...I will (in a rare event these days,) make room for some play time on Risa. I could care LESS about the raid and rewards and raid crafting....guess what I'm going to play :)



Edit:

PS, my first "branching out" is on that role playing server you are on, Sarlona. If you want to have fun, look for Fearface and bring a L 6 appropriate character if questing, or anybody to see that roleplaying I told you about.

Pellegro
05-21-2008, 12:58 AM
The first time I got bored, I took 2 months off. That helped alot.

Now the quest for a second WoP Rapier, and more +2 tomes keeps me going ...

Changing guilds is nice as well ... I enjoy being enteretained by others alsmost as much as the quests.

If I do get bored again, I will probably check out PvP, maybe try to get really good at that (assumign there's a community there of regulars). Or permadeath, which I've tried and found fun but enjoyed the regular game more (so haven't pursued).

There's a few options, but ultimately if its not doing it for you, try a diff. MMO. You'll probably be back in a month or two.

query
05-21-2008, 01:01 AM
and he'll be back soon (and if a pretty graphics and nothing else WOW hating personality, even sooner than that.)

The first time I got bored, I took 2 months off. That helped alot.

Now the quest for a second WoP Rapier, and more +2 tomes keeps me going ...

Changing guilds is nice as well ... I enjoy being enteretained by others alsmost as much as the quests.

If I do get bored again, I will probably check out PvP, maybe try to get really good at that (assumign there's a community there of regulars). Or permadeath, which I've tried and found fun but enjoyed the regular game more (so haven't pursued).

There's a few options, but ultimately if its not doing it for you, try a diff. MMO. You'll probably be back in a month or two.

Hvymetal
05-21-2008, 05:25 AM
I think, as others have pointed out that there are things to do without having to be spoon-fed content.

Mentor/Train people
Permadeath
Rollplay
Take a Break
Make alts (my personal favorite)
Start on a new server (also worked for me)
Help out guildies
PvP
Start a static group

Whatever you want, constant raiding and/or loot running gets old fast (at least for me), find other ways to entertain yourself.