My Djinn tricked me!

[Avelin]

I used my Wish Cake yesterday with my barb and chose to raise my Wis by 1 point. My str, dex, and con already had a +1 inherent bonus so I figured I would raise my Wis to increase my saves. I got the confirmation box to confirm that yes I wanted to raise my Wis and instead, my Djinn summoned a circle of 50 Hams on the ground! Is this a prank that the Djinn sometimes plays on you or is this a bug that I should have contacted a GM about? Anyone else had something like this happen with their Wish Cake? :mad:

[Cowdenicus]

somebody failed a real in life wisdom check.

[Zenako]

Someone did not closely read the options presented to you at the time .... doing so results in ham....

[Andora]

Sorry, not a bug. A wish is a very tricky thing, always has been. If you choose the first answer then you get a shower of hams. If you pick right one he will boost your wisdom and say " seems to me you are wise enough " Sorry, I know that is not what you want to hear, at least the hams are helpful.

[NXPlasmid]

same exact thing happened to my Paladin. asked for +1 wis, that toon doesn't have any inherent bonuses yet. got hams. while I was talking to the djinn 2 other people were trying to talk to it and getting Otto'ed. I figured they must have triggered something that make the djinn give me hams instead of a +1 bonus. good luck with the GMs, I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. enjoy the hams.

[NXPlasmid]

Someone did not closely read the options presented to you at the time .... doing so results in ham....

based on my experience you are not correct in your assumption. I have no idea what Avelin did or read but my guess is that his experience was the same as mine.

[Laith]

based on my experience you are not correct in your assumption. I have no idea what Avelin did or read but my guess is that his experience was the same as mine.
zenkao's right.

the djinn trys to trick you if you want a wisdom tome.
if you read the dialog, it's easy enough to figure out.
if i recall, that is the only dialog tree that tries to trick you.

btw: if you try to talk to someone else's djinn, you'll be forced to dance. it has no effect on anyones djinn dialog choices. You'd probably realize this as well, if you read what the djinn says when you click him.

[Aspenor]

based on my experience you are not correct in your assumption. I have no idea what Avelin did or read but my guess is that his experience was the same as mine.

Actually, he IS correct.

You choose the +1 bonus to wisdom from the Djinn, he will ask you if you are SURE you want a rain of TASTY HAMS. The first option is yes, I know I want this. The second conversation option will give you your wisdom bonus.

This is confirmed.

[Impaqt]

THis is how the WIsh Cakes work....

Both of you failed to read the responses that the Djinn gave you. WHen you ask for a Inherant bonus, he responds with "Yes, I want a Rain of Rain of tastey Hams" or something liek that and "No, I really want the Stat Bonus" I have a Cake left and can take a screenshot tonight if you dont believe us....

[Cowdenicus]

Sounds like TWO people failed wisdom checks. :D

[Milolyen]

In the words of Yoda

"Read carefully you must young padowon.
Tricky is the djinn."

Milolyen

[NXPlasmid]

THis is how the WIsh Cakes work....

Both of you failed to read the responses that the Djinn gave you. WHen you ask for a Inherant bonus, he responds with "Yes, I want a Rain of Rain of tastey Hams" or something liek that and "No, I really want the Stat Bonus" I have a Cake left and can take a screenshot tonight if you dont believe us....


Well that may be what you have seen, however I have used 4 cakes successfully for stat bonuses, and I do know how to read. I can tell you, although clearly you already *know* what happened to me, that the dialog box discussions were no different in the case that I got hams and no stat bonus as the cases where I got the stat bonuses.
[sarcasm on]
oh wait, you must be right. I did it wrong. how could I possibly think that this game could have occasional glitches. The game is perfect, the code is never wrong.
[sarcasm off]

Get real. You haven't gotten hams by mistake so you assume that it could never be possible, but you really don't know for a fact that it can't happen. It may be the most likely explanation but it's doesn't mean it's the only one.

[Uska]

Well that may be what you have seen, however I have used 4 cakes successfully for stat bonuses, and I do know how to read. I can tell you, although clearly you already *know* what happened to me, that the dialog box discussions were no different in the case that I got hams and no stat bonus as the cases where I got the stat bonuses.
[sarcasm on]
oh wait, you must be right. I did it wrong. how could I possibly think that this game could have occasional glitches. The game is perfect, the code is never wrong.
[sarcasm off]

Get real. You haven't gotten hams by mistake so you assume that it could never be possible, but you really don't know for a fact that it can't happen. It may be the most likely explanation but it's doesn't mean it's the only one.

Wisdom is the only one that does this all others work first choice it not a bug to many people are telling you this, on your other 3 cakes did you choose wisdom? I made the same mistake once myself its nothing to be ashamed of in fact its kind of funny.

[Avelin]

somebody failed a real in life wisdom check.

Yes I did! How cruel of the Djinn to word the confirmation like that. I honestly was hastey in my resonse and should have read it thoroughly (Didn't see anything about tastey hams-it was late and I was sleepy). I have used Wish Cakes on 2 other characters and had no problems but it was a while ago. I am glad it was for wisdom and not one of my more important stats hehe. I'll definitely be more careful on my other characters that have unused cakes. Thanks for the responses. I thought I had been jipped by the lag monster. :p

[WeaselKing]

The Djinn tries to trick you on the wisdom bonus only, that is why it goes ok most of the time for most of the people. Its kinda backwards if you ask me though because if you were wise enough to figure it out then you wouldn't need a wisdom bonus.

[NXPlasmid]

Wisdom is the only one that does this all others work first choice it not a bug to many people are telling you this, on your other 3 cakes did you choose wisdom? I made the same mistake once myself its nothing to be ashamed of in fact its kind of funny.

Well that is an interesting possibility. One that I find rather irksome if it is in fact true. It is essentially a penalty/check for anyone who want to get a a wisdom stat bonus from the cake. I guess I can see that as being "funny" but why only on wisdom... oh I get it, we need to apply the stat qualities of our ficticious characters onto ourselves. I wasn't wise enough in real life to deserve to have on of my fictitious toons get a wisdom bonus. If the Devs decided to make a hoop to jump through for a +1 wis bonus, why not make some hoop for the other stats.

BTW thank you very much for a complete answer, which actually has some information as well as a potentially relevent explaination of what appeared to me to be an unfortunate glitch for my toon and Avelin's toon. I can check this out myself as I have a toon that I am going to retire that still has his cake, so it doesn't matter if I get hams. And FWIW I think the hams are pretty cool and at least they have value to the player who might have made a mistaken choice.

I will test this tonight and post my findings.

*I edited my post to be less flamey*

[Impaqt]

Well that is an interesting possibility. One that I find rather irksome if it is in fact true. It is essentially a penalty/check for anyone who want to get a a wisdom stat bonus from the cake. I guess I can see that as being "funny" but why only on wisdom... oh I get it, we need to apply the stat qualities of our ficticious characters onto ourselves. I wasn't wise enough in real life to deserve to have on of my fictitious toons get a wisdom bonus. If the Devs decided to make a hoop to jump through for a +1 wis bonus, why not make some hoop for the other stats.

BTW thank you very much for a non "smartypants" answer, which actually has some information as well as a potentially relevent explaination of what appeared to me to be an unfortunate glitch for my toon and Avelin's toon. I can check this out myself as I have a toon that I am going to retire that still has his cake, so it doesn't matter if I get hams. And FWIW I think the hams are pretty cool and at least they have value to the player who might have made a mistaken choice.

I will test this tonight and post my findings.

You can bring up the screen over and over and just cancel out of it and retain your cake if you want to. No Need to Burn the cake for testing purposes.

[NXPlasmid]

You can bring up the screen over and over and just cancel out of it and retain your cake if you want to. No Need to Burn the cake for testing purposes.

No that's ok. I am assuming that the hams are not bound so I can pass them to one of my active toons.

[wamjratl1]

Well that may be what you have seen, however I have used 4 cakes successfully for stat bonuses, and I do know how to read. I can tell you, although clearly you already *know* what happened to me, that the dialog box discussions were no different in the case that I got hams and no stat bonus as the cases where I got the stat bonuses.
[sarcasm on]
oh wait, you must be right. I did it wrong. how could I possibly think that this game could have occasional glitches. The game is perfect, the code is never wrong.
[sarcasm off]

Get real. You haven't gotten hams by mistake so you assume that it could never be possible, but you really don't know for a fact that it can't happen. It may be the most likely explanation but it's doesn't mean it's the only one.

1. No one questioned your ability to read.
2. It was stated clearly that the WISDOM option tries to trick you, not the others.
3. You are not the first person this has happened to. There is plenty of evidence to support Impaqt's claim.
4. The OP admits his error below. Hope he likes ham.
5. Impaqt was correct.
6. If you have been having a bad day, I hope it gets better.
7. Perhaps some ham will ease your frustration.:D

*Also edited for de-flaminess purposes*

[ChildrenofBodom]

It's ok to admit you are wrong. Be a big boy, I think if a bunch of very respectable people tell you that you are wrong. Most likely, you are. No big deal, don't have to make a fuss about it.

[Grosbeak07]

I'm surprised that no one has blamed lag, not enough content, Age of Conan, poor loot tables, crafting, nerfs, PvP, exploits, grinding, the gravitational pull of the moon, werewolfs, gnomes or George W. Bush for his unwanted abundance of pork products.

[Aspenor]

It's ok to admit you are wrong. Be a big boy, I think if a bunch of very respectable people tell you that you are wrong. Most likely, you are. No big deal, don't have to make a fuss about it.

I pulled another Robe of the Archmagi last night.

[NXPlasmid]

1. No one questioned your ability to read.
2. It was stated clearly that the WISDOM option tries to trick you, not the others.
3. You are not the first person this has happened to. There is plenty of evidence to support Impaqt's claim.
4. The OP admits his error below. Hope he likes ham.
5. Impaqt was correct.
6. If you have been having a bad day, I hope it gets better.
7. Perhaps some ham will ease your frustration.:D

*Also edited for de-flaminess purposes*

1. that is implict in most of the replys, actually to read carefully. (which I can admit I may not have)
2. yes I do understand that now see 5.
3. this I believe
4. ham is useful
5. yes, I think that is possible, Uska's explanation was more understandable to me
6. irrelevant and snarky
7. probably not, but hey, it's just a game.

For me the key piece of information was that WIS is the only "tricked" stat bonus and I still don't understand the logic of doing it on only one stat bonus. And, I think most people that got "tricked" didn't think it was all that "funny". Not much you can do about it anyway, but even I can see that hams are better than nothing, especially for free.

[sirgog]

In the words of Yoda

"Read carefully you must young padowon.
Tricky is the djinn."

Milolyen

Correction.

"Read carefully you must, young padowon.
Tricky, the djinn, it is.
Pwned, you were."

[Uska]

No that's ok. I am assuming that the hams are not bound so I can pass them to one of my active toons.

Yes you can, wish I could get more of the yummy things

[Cupcake]

Actually, he IS correct.

You choose the +1 bonus to wisdom from the Djinn, he will ask you if you are SURE you want a rain of TASTY HAMS. The first option is yes, I know I want this. The second conversation option will give you your wisdom bonus.

This is confirmed.

This is correct.

[Cupcake]

1. that is implict in most of the replys, actually to read carefully. (which I can admit I may not have)
2. yes I do understand that now see 5.
3. this I believe
4. ham is useful
5. yes, I think that is possible, Uska's explanation was more understandable to me
6. irrelevant and snarky
7. probably not, but hey, it's just a game.

For me the key piece of information was that WIS is the only "tricked" stat bonus and I still don't understand the logic of doing it on only one stat bonus. And, I think most people that got "tricked" didn't think it was all that "funny". Not much you can do about it anyway, but even I can see that hams are better than nothing, especially for free.

My pally wasn't happy at all. But hams ham.

[Talon_Moonshadow]

I "Wisely" took a mule toon, ate his cake, and read every option possible with wishes....before using any oef them on my other toons.
it's ironic that he tricks the person who wishes he was wiser. lol.

I actually "wish" there had been more options like this.

And of course I still want my pony!

Dragon Monks....next month!

[JaeBeam]

I was with my static group when I ate my cake, and got the tasty ham rain.

Two of my party members tried to keep me from answering wrong as well... I guess I was the only one not reading the text properly :(

Scratch one more cleric!

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I used my Wish Cake yesterday with my barb and chose to raise my Wis by 1 point. My str, dex, and con already had a +1 inherent bonus so I figured I would raise my Wis to increase my saves. I got the confirmation box to confirm that yes I wanted to raise my Wis and instead, my Djinn summoned a circle of 50 Hams on the ground! Is this a prank that the Djinn sometimes plays on you or is this a bug that I should have contacted a GM about? Anyone else had something like this happen with their Wish Cake? :mad:

lol the note when they sent these out even warned you he plays tricks.... That's what you get for not reading the screen...

[Hambo]

Well that is an interesting possibility. One that I find rather irksome if it is in fact true. It is essentially a penalty/check for anyone who want to get a a wisdom stat bonus from the cake. I guess I can see that as being "funny" but why only on wisdom... oh I get it, we need to apply the stat qualities of our ficticious characters onto ourselves. I wasn't wise enough in real life to deserve to have on of my fictitious toons get a wisdom bonus. If the Devs decided to make a hoop to jump through for a +1 wis bonus, why not make some hoop for the other stats.

BTW thank you very much for a complete answer, which actually has some information as well as a potentially relevent explaination of what appeared to me to be an unfortunate glitch for my toon and Avelin's toon. I can check this out myself as I have a toon that I am going to retire that still has his cake, so it doesn't matter if I get hams. And FWIW I think the hams are pretty cool and at least they have value to the player who might have made a mistaken choice.

I will test this tonight and post my findings.

*I edited my post to be less flamey*

Remember, if you do thas and get the hams you can always mail them to your other alts...

[Beherit_Baphomar]

bunch of very respectable people.

I lol'd.

[NXPlasmid]

Well, I just tried it. All too true.

[wamjratl1]

1. that is implict in most of the replys, actually to read carefully. (which I can admit I may not have)
2. yes I do understand that now see 5.
3. this I believe
4. ham is useful
5. yes, I think that is possible, Uska's explanation was more understandable to me
6. irrelevant and snarky
7. probably not, but hey, it's just a game.

For me the key piece of information was that WIS is the only "tricked" stat bonus and I still don't understand the logic of doing it on only one stat bonus. And, I think most people that got "tricked" didn't think it was all that "funny". Not much you can do about it anyway, but even I can see that hams are better than nothing, especially for free.

You said I was snarky. That word always makes me laugh for some reason :D. And one day all those hams will save your life and you will say "Wisdom?!??!... Who needs it?!??!?! I GOT HAMS!!!!!"

[Tolero]

Yes I'll throw this out here because we had some messaging out about it around the time of the anniversary, but it never helps to remind...

Be careful what you wish for... The Djinni of the cake is not your friend, and he will try to trick you!

On the bright side, if you have the misfortune of ending up with a rain of tasty hams, remember that they're more beneficial these days than they were before. You can eat them in dungeons, and if you're a warforged, take them to the Stone of Change to receive some tasty ham oil instead.

Remember that Tasty Hams are not to be confused with Kargon brand Tasty Hams though.

[Ransacked]

You can eat them in dungeons, and if you're a warforged, take them to the Stone of Change to receive some tasty ham oil instead.



Does the Tasty Ham Oil come with an SPF rating? My WF is quite pale...

[RazorrX]

I have a character with a cake left still, and IF yeti hides ever show up for crafting . . . I am SOOOO gonna talk to that Djini to make me a Dragon Monk! :P

[Missing_Minds]

On the bright side, if you have the misfortune of ending up with a rain of tasty hams, remember that they're more beneficial these days than they were before. You can eat them in dungeons, and if you're a warforged, take them to the Stone of Change to receive some tasty ham oil instead.

Be prepared to spend a full 30 minutes trying to convert all 50 hams. They have no "convert all hams" function. It is one at a time. Which is really FRACKING annoying.

[Riorik]

Well that is an interesting possibility. ...

BTW thank you very much for a complete answer, which actually has some information as well as a potentially relevent explaination of what appeared to me to be an unfortunate glitch for my toon and Avelin's toon. I can check this out myself as I have a toon that I am going to retire that still has his cake, so it doesn't matter if I get hams.

STOP!!! I know where you went wrong.

You called your character a toon!

You're playing the wrong game!

Ok, so this wasn't that constructive...:)

[Lifespawn]

Yes I'll throw this out here because we had some messaging out about it around the time of the anniversary, but it never helps to remind...

Be careful what you wish for... The Djinni of the cake is not your friend, and he will try to trick you!

On the bright side, if you have the misfortune of ending up with a rain of tasty hams, remember that they're more beneficial these days than they were before. You can eat them in dungeons, and if you're a warforged, take them to the Stone of Change to receive some tasty ham oil instead.

Remember that Tasty Hams are not to be confused with Kargon brand Tasty Hams though.


changing hams to oil is as tedious as siberious dragon shards 1 at a time :(

[ccheath776]

Yes I'll throw this out here because we had some messaging out about it around the time of the anniversary, but it never helps to remind...

Be careful what you wish for... The Djinni of the cake is not your friend, and he will try to trick you!

On the bright side, if you have the misfortune of ending up with a rain of tasty hams, remember that they're more beneficial these days than they were before. You can eat them in dungeons, and if you're a warforged, take them to the Stone of Change to receive some tasty ham oil instead.

Remember that Tasty Hams are not to be confused with Kargon brand Tasty Hams though.

Yeah well I didnt see a trick for any of the other stats.
Thanks for nothing on that one.
never trick the player in a non-recoverable way.
Beyond the picking of the option it should have been "Are you sure?" about 4 times

[Milolyen]

Yeah well I didnt see a trick for any of the other stats.
Thanks for nothing on that one.
never trick the player in a non-recoverable way.
Beyond the picking of the option it should have been "Are you sure?" about 4 times

What so you could click on yes while NOT READING 3 more times? If you take the time to READ it will say "Are you sure you want a rain of tasty hams?" then a yes or no option. If you didn't read the first "Are you sure?" then why would you read the second, third or fourth. Also this was a GIFT from the devs and a +1 tome is not THAT big of a deal to get ****ed about when falling for a joke. If I had fallen for it I would have just been like what???? gone back read what happen and then laugh at my own stupidity. Its not the devs fault you didn't read specially when they post a warning about how tricky he is.

Milolyen

[Ciaran]

Hams are better. They're changing all healing to be HoT in MOD8, so you'll be ahead of the game with hams.

It's true! I read it on the forums! :p

***Just so nobody takes me seriously, this would be the obligatory I'm totally kidding disclaimer***

[Zenako]

Yeah well I didnt see a trick for any of the other stats.
Thanks for nothing on that one.
never trick the player in a non-recoverable way.
Beyond the picking of the option it should have been "Are you sure?" about 4 times

Sorry, on this one, little sympathy. Djinn in D&D are by their nature deceitful and tricky and attempt to pervert any wish you make into something not quite what you want. Wishes themselves are often treated with fine tooth lawyers to make sure what you want and get are the same thing.

What was done with the Cake and WIS option was entirely in keeping with the nature of the event. It was ironic ( and I assume on purpose ) that they chose to have the WIS option be the one with the twist in it.

[cdbd3rd]

I used my Wish Cake yesterday with my barb and chose to raise my Wis by 1 point. My str, dex, and con already had a +1 inherent bonus so I figured I would raise my Wis to increase my saves. I got the confirmation box to confirm that yes I wanted to raise my Wis and instead, my Djinn summoned a circle of 50 Hams on the ground! Is this a prank that the Djinn sometimes plays on you or is this a bug that I should have contacted a GM about? Anyone else had something like this happen with their Wish Cake? :mad:



LOL! Yeah, I got caught by that one too. Once. Tricksy little fart, ain't he? Teached me real good to read those confirmation boxes a little closer. ;)





Yeah well I didnt see a trick for any of the other stats.


I took my chin-shot on a Charisma click - I think....

Double checked after reading the *rest* of the thread, and yeah, it was on a baby cleric. Wisdom.
NVM. :)

[ccheath776]

Sorry, on this one, little sympathy. Djinn in D&D are by their nature deceitful and tricky and attempt to pervert any wish you make into something not quite what you want. Wishes themselves are often treated with fine tooth lawyers to make sure what you want and get are the same thing.

What was done with the Cake and WIS option was entirely in keeping with the nature of the event. It was ironic ( and I assume on purpose ) that they chose to have the WIS option be the one with the twist in it.

Makes me wish I could fight the Djinn in a cage match. Trick me will you!!!