April 5th, the Great Cleric Walkout!!!

[Sambvca]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

[Theboz]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

Im non-union, sorry

[Ro-Longo]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

/signed

Good thing I just payed my union dues. :)

[Dracolich]

Thought April Fools day was the first of the month.

No offense but are you mental? If any class should be striking it should be rangers. It seems every other day there is a new thread on this bad person who happens to be a ranger or that. BTW which union do you belong to?

[Oreg]

I strongly encourage you to make it a week long strike so people get a real feel for how to buy potions and wands.

Thanks

[Delt]

Is it wrong that the only reason I want druids to make it in the game is that so all clerics suddenly become obsolete and 150% less self-important?

heh.

[Coldin]

And everyone will realize that they don't need clerics for every single quest they run.... ;)

[Xalted_Vol]

SIGNED/ people have to learn how to be more self sufficient.

[VirieSquichie]

Umm, no.

Clerics don't often get the appreciation in PUGs that they deserve, true. I play several, and usually in PUGs, so I'm well aware of the problem.

The people who make clerics' lives miserable will not change because they can't find a cleric for one day. They'll probably just chalk it up, like they usually do, to us not being willing to "do our jobs"...hence the phrase commonly uttered by clerics, "I can't heal stupid." It's not coincidence that most of these fools are not in guilds - they'd drive the clerics out of any guild that let them join.

Clerics are the best at healing, but they're far from being the only healers. Bards, as you mentioned, heal also - usually more than they'd like to. Paladins have saved the bacon of many parties through Lay on Hands, wands and spells. Rangers can use wands, so can many rogues through UMD. I've even seen sorcerers using cure wands through their UMD skills, though that's fairly rare. Anyone can take an Aid or Rage clickie along with them and use it for emergency HP boosting of party members, especially if it's the cleric who's incapped. Any halfling who chooses to can get healing-based dragonmarks, though I realize many consider it a "waste" of feats I've seen dragonmark-granted Heals work wonders in a tough area. And let's not forget that every class and race can carry potions so they can self-heal.

Now, a day where zergers go on strike and refuse to zerg, I could REALLY go for.

[Yajerman01]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

Now all other classes will learn and become proficient in self healing. We will then have no need for clerics and Bard/ranger/paladins will suffice. Clerics will be relegated and laughed at, and what group in their right mind will want or need a cleric.

We will laugh in tremendous bellows when a cleric asks for money as we toss a few copper pieces just so they can leave.


Mwa ha ha ha ha.

JUST LIKE THE BIG TOBACCO COMPANY, GO AHEAD AND STRIKE!, GO AHEAD AND QUITE FOR A DAY OR TWO, we will always find another way.

You'll be back!

mwa ha ha ha.

[Mercules]

Is it wrong that the only reason I want druids to make it in the game is that so all clerics suddenly become obsolete and 150% less self-important?

heh.

How are Offensively orientated and never memorized a Healing Spell Druids going to make Clerics Obsolete? :) Oh look... now we have 3 classes we can try and force into the role of "Heal-bot".:rolleyes:

[Sambvca]

Clerics are the best at healing, but they're far from being the only healers. Bards, as you mentioned, heal also - usually more than they'd like to. Paladins have saved the bacon of many parties through Lay on Hands, wands and spells. Rangers can use wands, so can many rogues through UMD. I've even seen sorcerers using cure wands through their UMD skills, though that's fairly rare. Anyone can take an Aid or Rage clickie along with them and use it for emergency HP boosting of party members, especially if it's the cleric who's incapped. Any halfling who chooses to can get healing-based dragonmarks, though I realize many consider it a "waste" of feats I've seen dragonmark-granted Heals work wonders in a tough area. And let's not forget that every class and race can carry potions so they can self-heal.

Let them buy wands, potions, and scrolls by the hundreds.

[VirieSquichie]

And we have our first scab. Clerics on Sarlona please note the characters in his sig (Valamer - lvl 16 barb fighter Weythrane - lvl 16 rogue WordA - lvl 16 fighter Vallee Girl - lvl 16 Ranger/fighter Varinia Misses - lvl 8 Ranger Pizzahead - lvl 3 Barb Mereia - lvl 2 Rogue Waldemarr - lvl 1 Pali IWouldPray - Cleric lvl16 ) will not be needing healing Saturday.

Odds are his characters rarely need healing on any day, because he understands the value of self-healing.

Ever notice, the guy who does most of his own healing will get Healed first when a big combat starts to go wrong? The cleric has seen all that self-healing, appreciates it and rewards accordingly by giving first cast to the character most likely to help keep himself up while the cleric is busy scraping everyone else's entrails off the walls and floor.

[Ro-Longo]

Im non-union, sorry

*Looks for Tomatos to throw*

:)

[KoboldKiller]

I am already self sufficient and do not rely on Clerics. I know how much it costs to keep my Barb in pots. To turn this back on the Clerics some of this is created by the players. We get speeches like "if you run off I can't heal you" which indicates that you intend to babysit me, what if I am not relying on you to heal me? I'm not saying that there aren't some players that are Cleric sponges but some of this is brought on by the Clerics. And yes I have played a Cleric before.

[WeaselKing]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

I never play may cleric anymore. Got turned down for groups because my warforged cleric was not 32 point and therefore incapable apparently.

Instead I play my wf wizzie who diesn't need a cleric's help (as long as someone else can raise me when I do something stupid. :D)

[Cupcake]

Thought April Fools day was the first of the month.

No offense but are you mental? If any class should be striking it should be rangers. It seems every other day there is a new thread on this bad person who happens to be a ranger or that. BTW which union do you belong to?

*Sits with Drac sharing cupcakes with him.:D

Ummm..

I have a cleric and a bard and I play both.

[jarlaxle_dourden]

/SIGNED

My Cleric will hang up his cross for April 5th.

Thanks for suggesting ... some people would call it useless but if it gets people talking it will help.

Keep up the good fight.

[Dark_Helmet]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

/notsigned - unless you are talking about your server only and you somehow got an agreement from the majority of clerics there.

This is just as bad as the bashing itself! A small minority of posters is now directing how the rest of the players shall play and part time players suffer yet again...

I suggest you just make a guild of a small amount of players who agree with how you think a cleric should be and group with them. You will be much happier.


I think the primary role of a cleric is to heal. For PCs to be "self - sufficient" is MMO biased and not true DnD (What PnP DM hands out potions and scrolls like they are candy???) But, do I ask for a strike against battle clerics? Sorry, won't lower myself to that level.

Good luck and I hope you get your groups so you can enjoy playing more.

[Mercules]

Let them buy wands, potions, and scrolls by the hundreds.

You missed a perfect quote:

"Let them eat cake!!!! and then choose the Heal my party option.

[MissErres]

Ok, I get it and I agree. I have 2 clerics myself. But it's the PUG groups that make playing a cleric a GAWD-awful experience. My guildies take care of me. So can I still play with them durning the strike or is that violating my union contract?

One other thought... we should all log on our Clerics and refuse all the tells from LFM's, and explain to them why... Or put a msg next to our name in the Who list... Because a lot of people don't read the forums and won't understand what's going on, they will need it spelled out for them. Just a thought.

[unionyes]

I am totally on strike on Saturday on Sarlona.

I guess you can't heal non union either, or am I being redundant? :)

When the clarion call of freedom through the cleric's blood shall run
There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun
Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
But the Union makes us strong.

Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
Solidarity forever,
For the Union makes us strong

It is we who heal the damage when the others just won't learn,
It's we who casts the rezzes when the traps they slash and burn,
Then they say to quit your whining when we spend more than we earn,
But the Union makes us strong.

(Chorus)

Now we take a day to let you know just where to get those pots,
And some will post on here to say we're just a bunch of t**ts,
Better fight right by the shrine, or else your corpse will rot,
Cause the Union makes us strong.

(Chrorus)

A lot of other classes might just learn a thing or two,
They don't look quite so uber without a heal from me and you,
And when they party wipe again, what are they gonna do?
Our Union makes us strong.

(Chorus, and done).

[jarlaxle_dourden]

/notsigned - unless you are talking about your server only and you somehow got an agreement from the majority of clerics there.

This is just as bad as the bashing itself! A small minority of posters is now directing how the rest of the players shall play and part time players suffer yet again...

I suggest you just make a guild of a small amount of players who agree with how you think a cleric should be and group with them. You will be much happier.


I think the primary role of a cleric is to heal. For PCs to be "self - sufficient" is MMO biased and not true DnD (What PnP DM hands out potions and scrolls like they are candy???) But, do I ask for a strike against battle clerics? Sorry, won't lower myself to that level.

Good luck and I hope you get your groups so you can enjoy playing more.

The reason for the strike ...

It might make people realize that chocking back pots is not enough ... it will take some folks half a stack of pots to fill up their hp. Clerics are for healing = true ... clerics = only healing = false ... clerics = poor = true ... most pugs= not appreciating their healer = true

[Kris_P._Letus]

Odds are his characters rarely need healing on any day, because he understands the value of self-healing.

Ever notice, the guy who does most of his own healing will get Healed first when a big combat starts to go wrong? The cleric has seen all that self-healing, appreciates it and rewards accordingly by giving first cast to the character most likely to help keep himself up while the cleric is busy scraping everyone else's entrails off the walls and floor.

bein a wf barb, i HAVE to be self sufficient. but, even with bein a wf barb, the clerics all hit me with heals when my health goes down before any other characters. even the casters. i guess it could be becouse theyve seen me pot'n it up. or it could be becouse im the one doing 80 percent of the damage to the mobs, so theyd like to keep it up. it dont matter. most of the time, the only reason i even TRY to get a cleric in the party is becouse i know how important they are to the fleshies. well, deathward and resists help to. but i have pots for those as well. well, not dw. but i dont get lvl drained anyway, and i have lesser restore pots. :P btw, not slamming clerics, i love them for what they do. just not as needed as everyone wants to say they are.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

I dont play Saturdays, so you can add my cleric to the strike list.

[arcticwolf666]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!



/NOT SIGNED

Apparently we have a contestant who needs hand outs to "do his/her" job. That is the role of a begger. I have had ZERO problems running with my cleric in any group pug or not. Obviously either...

a- your cleric is gimped and noone will reimburse you (happens all the time, I run with other clerics that should not be)
b- You are looking for ways to make fast cash
c- Selfish
d- All of the above

If you are really having that many issues, maybe you should rethink your toon :rolleyes:

"I will stand by and keep my party alive, donations or not, for that is MY role" ;)

Good luck on your walk out hehe, while my cleric keeps right on leveling. Now I know when to run parties and get sweet loot and xp you will miss out on lol Thanks :D

[bobbryan2]

Don't stop there... everybody should just delete their cleric, then you'll never have to "deal" with people that are unsympathetic to the fact that you have to spend resources in combat.

[Laith]

if anything at all comes out of this "strike", it'll be the illustration of how few people read and/or care about the issues that are considered a big deal on the forums...

good luck...

[unionyes]

I am already self sufficient and do not rely on Clerics. I know how much it costs to keep my Barb in pots. To turn this back on the Clerics some of this is created by the players. We get speeches like "if you run off I can't heal you" which indicates that you intend to babysit me, what if I am not relying on you to heal me? I'm not saying that there aren't some players that are Cleric sponges but some of this is brought on by the Clerics. And yes I have played a Cleric before.

When I say 'If you run off I can't heal you' I am not saying don't run off. I am just saying I can't heal you if you do. If you are self sufficient, that is great. Many clerics have had the experience of someone running away from the rest of the party, dying, and then getting mad that the cleric isn't right behind them to heal them. Most of us bypass that situation by saying if you run off, I can't heal you. BTW, I say the same thing if the party splits up too, unless it is a planned thing like in some quests you need to hit two whatevers at the same time and they are far away.

Glad to hear you won't be affected much by the strike. A self sufficient, potion carrying, nice to clerics player isn't who we are trying to make a point with.

[jarlaxle_dourden]

Don't stop there... everybody should just delete their cleric, then you'll never have to "deal" with people that are unsympathetic to the fact that you have to spend resources in combat.

No cleric in you list of toons ... roll one up and try it out before you decided to jump into the fray ... just so you know what you are talking about ... k

[Rameses]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

Meh, who needs a cleric.

[Ro-Longo]

/NOT SIGNED

Apparently we have a contestant who needs hand outs to "do his/her" job. That is the role of a begger. I have had ZERO problems running with my cleric in any group pug or not. Obviously either...

a- your cleric is gimped and noone will reimburse you (happens all the time, I run with other clerics that should not be)
b- You are looking for ways to make fast cash
c- Selfish
d- All of the above

If you are really having that many issues, maybe you should rethink your toon :rolleyes:

"I will stand by and keep my party alive, donations or not, for that is MY role" ;)

Good luck on your walk out hehe, while my cleric keeps right on leveling. Now I know when to run parties and get sweet loot and xp you will miss out on lol Thanks :D


I love stuff like that from people. Always bashing other people's toons.

[MissErres]

I'm just curious...

Those people who are talking about how great it is to play a cleric and how they never have to ask for fundage, and never have any problems... What level is your cleric? I have two... A level 16 and a level 11. My level 16 has no problems what-so-ever with groups, pugs, zergers, dumba$$es, money, etc. My level 11 is finally starting to get out of that Mid-level hell which is full of idiots who are nothing but a resource and time drain.

So I wonder, maybe it is just the mid-levels that are so bad for the clerics? Or do people have consistently bad experiences at all levels? ;)

[oronisi]

*Dusts off cleric*

A new strike? I stopped PUGing last time, I didn't know the strike ended and we all went back to work....Well, I guess I'm just early then.

[ccheath776]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

ummmm so walkout.
I didnt see in any book or rule that a cleric was required for any quest.
Ive completed quests as high as CR 15 without the need for a cleric.

Go on strike if you wish.

[ccheath776]

Careful Sam this fringes on the border of an avoid so and so post.

[Rameses]

When I say 'If you run off I can't heal you' I am not saying don't run off. I am just saying I can't heal you if you do. If you are self sufficient, that is great. Many clerics have had the experience of someone running away from the rest of the party, dying, and then getting mad that the cleric isn't right behind them to heal them. Most of us bypass that situation by saying if you run off, I can't heal you. BTW, I say the same thing if the party splits up too, unless it is a planned thing like in some quests you need to hit two whatevers at the same time and they are far away.

Glad to hear you won't be affected much by the strike. A self sufficient, potion carrying, nice to clerics player isn't who we are trying to make a point with.

How about when I tell the Cleric don't worry about healing me in between fights?
And yet 2 seconds after I've hit myself with a Heal Scroll the cleric is throwing a heal on me. Then the same cleric will complain because he's running low on SP and will need to recall to get some more.

The problem with most Clerics and players in general is that they've put too much importance on a Babysitter.
I'd rather go without a Cleric then listen to a Babysitter complaining about the costs of Babysitting.

I am, Rameses!

[Theboz]

My cleric pays the bills. My cleric make more money then all my other toons combined, only if people realized, clerics are are soloing jaugernauts(sp) and what other people give me for keeping them alive in quest, I have plenty to buy scrolls and wands.

[bobbryan2]

No cleric in you list of toons ... roll one up and try it out before you decided to jump into the fray ... just so you know what you are talking about ... k

I've got another 3-4 capped characters not in my sig. But either way, It doesn't take playing a cleric to know what clerics go through. I've played raids being the only cleric before, and while stressful, it's part of the game.

The point is... the number of quests that actually need a cleric are precious few. I've ran plenty of raids and upper level quests with 2-3 people without a cleric among them. If you think that clerics do anything other than make a few quests easier or a little less resource intensive, then you're the one that doesn't know what you're talking about.

I get annoyed with self-righteous clerics that think just because they have the spell heal in their arsenal we should kiss the ground they walk on.

If you are annoyed because people don't worship the fact that you're a cleric, please, by all means, delete your cleric and see if the woes and laments are as loud as you apparantly think they are.

[dawnyel]

*Sits with Drac sharing cupcakes with him.:D

Ummm..

I have a cleric and a bard and I play both.

With both my clerics. See threatneing to black list me made made it easy for me to decide.

Cupcake never asked for on before but I hear you pass them out frequently if asked may I have a chocolate one.

[Healemup]

The reason for the strike ...

It might make people realize that chocking back pots is not enough ... it will take some folks half a stack of pots to fill up their hp. Clerics are for healing = true ... clerics = only healing = false ... clerics = poor = true ... most pugs= not appreciating their healer = true

My cleric has nearly 500k plat on him at the moment. I suppose that it might be true for the majority, but if you as a cleric learn that sometimes offense can be better than nannybotting it becomes less of the other player's issue. Trust me, my guild is fully aware that I have two major spells at my disposal during many quests (Blade Barrier and Heal (self)). That is definitely not to say that I don't do everything in my power to keep them alive and even close to fully healed. However, when lots of damage is being done, A good maxed,empowered,superior potencied blade barrier mostly retakes aggro and only running is necessary to reduce damage taken.

Now if you want to talk about clerics up to say level 11, I agree that it is VERY expensive most of the time. But past that point, I think most clerics can take matters into their own hands if they so choose.

But, I do have 6 other characters that I can work on that day. Maybe, I can informally join the strike movement.

[arcticwolf666]

The fact you need XP reflects your own Gimpedness.

A. No one is 2 words
B. I never mentioned money
C. How is getting clerics to unite selfish
D. Because you need multiple choice to make points


LMAO Touche - you are now guilty of D lmao

I just wanted to say something lol ;) The fact people bash other toons is because they have had a negative experience with others. There are some really great toons (no matter what class) out there and people just bash others for a few apples that have fallen off the greatness tree :) I fear this thread will open up some major wounds and more negativity towards Clerics by mentioning strikes, or whatever. I understand your point, but there are better ways than just inviting a war with others. You should know how an innocent thread could quickly turn into an ugly war :(

[Moriendi]

I love how the OP chooses to portray himself the one true voice of the cleric class by calling a for a strike and labeling those who would play their clerics anyway on the weekend as scabs. I guess you never met a brother who doesn't agree with Farrakhan or a Baptist that doesn't picket a soldier's funeral, so maybe it doesn't occur to you that you have zero authority in the matter. You may play a cleric, but you do not speak for me and by telling everyone else here that you are calling a strike all you are doing is confirming the stereotype that clerics are a bunch of self-righteous twits looking for a handout.

I will go ahead and admit that I am no uber-cleric, or uber anything for that matter, but where do you get off telling me when i can and can't play MY character?

I tell you what, forget the healing pots/wands/plat you are demanding as a tithe from the masses for bestowing upon us your most gracious and benevolent in-game presence. And nevermind that YOU decided to roll up a cleric, THE HEALING CLASS of D&D, and continue to play the character.

When you start to pay my monthly subscription fee, then you can tell me when and where I will play.

[eaten by cube]

Have a nice day.

[Kris_P._Letus]

With both my clerics. See threatneing to black list me made made it easy for me to decide.

Cupcake never asked for on before but I hear you pass them out fiquenbtly if asked may I have a chocolate one.

and ill have a chocolate one with cream cheese frosting, please!!! :D *drool*

[Milolyen]

The reason for the strike ...

It might make people realize that chocking back pots is not enough ... it will take some folks half a stack of pots to fill up their hp. Clerics are for healing = true ... clerics = only healing = false ... clerics = poor = true ... most pugs= not appreciating their healer = true

Without trading any plat to my cleric, only running shroud to completion 4 times (all where pug raids). I went from 50 heal scrolls to 44 heal scrolls, 6 major mnemonics(sp?) to 5 (used 2 but looted one) and from 40kpp to 80kpp. Most clerics are poor because they took a vow of poverty. (they brought it on themselves by choosing to use all those resources they use in a group) Only once has my cleric used more than 20 scrolls in a shroud raid (granted I did not run him in there in the first 1 or 2 weeks).

Was in a shroud raid last night with cleric. 2 clerics, 1 bard, 2 barbs, 1 splash fighter (fighter rogue I belive and only had 350 hps), 1 pally, 2 sorc, and 3 rangers. I had a barb and the splash fighters for healing duties in part 4 and 5. Neither of them died and I did my share of healing on the rest of the party. However in part 5 the fighter was just takeing to much dmg by the time the boss was down to half I had 10 percent of my mana left and the pools had not been taken away yet so I politely ask my 2 charges to stay out of the fight for a bit so I can get some mana back (leader did not like this much /shrug) then when I got most of it back I asked the fighter to stay out of it and just use his returner and let the barb go back in. From 100 % to 50 percent I used 90% of my mana then from 50% to dead I used not even 50% of my mana. Some times it just takes putting your foot down in groups and saying I am not going to do what you expect but instead I am going to play smart. That fighter was just to much of a drain on resources to keep him in. Leader made comment saying "Dalerious can't handle healing 2 people in this fight" Which was not true in the least bit ... it was more of a matter of doing what was efficient. Most clerics in this case would have burned through the 20 to 30 heal scrolls in order to keep the fighter in. (This is the choice THEY make and THEIR vow of poverty) My cleric ... he is true nuetral ... if it beniefts me to keep you alive I will ... if not then you are on your own JK. But seriously put your foot down if something like that is happening and draining YOUR resources.

Milolyen

[roadkill525]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

I'ma take this one step further... due to all the bashing I will be on strike friday saterday and most of sunday. to make sure I will be on a mountain side atleast an 2 hours drive from my computer!

[Cupcake]

With both my clerics. See threatneing to black list me made made it easy for me to decide.

Cupcake never asked for on before but I hear you pass them out frequently if asked may I have a chocolate one.

Of course you may.

Hands you a chocolate cupcake.

[Gunga]

On Saturday, April 5th, all clerics are called upon to strike!
We seek the support of the bard class too!

After the ammount of cleric bashing this week, clerics everywhere are will not be available for grouping. Clerics may not group with partiess containing classes other than clerics and bards. Scab clerics shall be blacklisted.

Join the walkout April 5th!!

At least you have a cause you can believe in. Even if it makes me want to take a nap. Waaa, I'm a cleric and nobody loves me.

[Mercules]

I'ma take this one step further... due to all the bashing I will be on strike friday saterday and most of sunday. to make sure I will be on a mountain side atleast an 2 hours drive from my computer!

I'll go even further... Even my wand healing characters and Dragonmarked Halfling Rogue will be absent Friday, Saturday, and most of Sunday. To resist temptation I will sleeping on a floor Friday night, under a truck pulling out the Clutch Saturday morning, deciding the fate of my poor Ogre Kingdom army as I move them about a 4'x4' table and hopefully smash Skaven, Brettonians, and Orcs Saturday afternoon and evening, on the floor again Saturday night, and then under the truck again Sunday putting the dang thing back together(hopefully) correctly.

[Yajerman01]

How about when I tell the Cleric don't worry about healing me in between fights?
And yet 2 seconds after I've hit myself with a Heal Scroll the cleric is throwing a heal on me. Then the same cleric will complain because he's running low on SP and will need to recall to get some more.

The problem with most Clerics and players in general is that they've put too much importance on a Babysitter.
I'd rather go without a Cleric then listen to a Babysitter complaining about the costs of Babysitting.

I am, Rameses!

I dont recall how many times I have said it, but regardless, whatever toon I may be playing at the time, if I have a grasp of the quest and know my limitations, I will tell the cleric to 1. Dont heal me unless I ask or 2. Heal me only during melee/battle 3. Save your mana, im not going to die in this quest. Whatever the case me be I always seem to get the cleric that is on auto-pilot, spamming heals and burning mana and scrolls and then turns around and starts to whine about SP and cost.

Alternatively, I sometimes get those clerics that are just terrible at healing so I start to tend to myself and 1. I will get a heal (1 heal) at the end [usually by a wand] or 2. I'll get the cleric that heals everyone else but me and then starts yapping about costs and/or no mana.

Either way - i do not sympathise with a clerics plight here.

Lastly, I do not have a capped cleric but I do have two lowbies, and when I do run my clerics (which is rare) in a PUG or whatever, I dont complain about cost or mana as I have other toons supporting any need my clerics have.

[Impaqt]

Thought April Fools day was the first of the month.

No offense but are you mental? If any class should be striking it should be rangers. It seems every other day there is a new thread on this bad person who happens to be a ranger or that. BTW which union do you belong to?

Yeah, but who would notice if Rangers went on strike? Most poeple who did notice would be relieved even...;)

I may do some all cleric groups... Hard to stricke when half my stable is clerics..... :)

[Cupcake]

and ill have a chocolate one with cream cheese frosting, please!!! :D *drool*

Sure thing. Hands you yer chocolate cupcake with cream cheese frosting.

I will play my cleric when and where I please.

She's not rich, but I have fun playing her with my friends.

[Aodh]

Yeah, but who would notice if Rangers went on strike? Most poeple who did notice would be relieved even...;)

I may do some all cleric groups... Hard to stricke when half my stable is clerics..... :)

Now that'd be funny, having 5 clerics in a group with a LFM for another cleric.

[Westerner]

Thread of the week!!

[jarlaxle_dourden]

I've got another 3-4 capped characters not in my sig. But either way, It doesn't take playing a cleric to know what clerics go through. I've played raids being the only cleric before, and while stressful, it's part of the game.

The point is... the number of quests that actually need a cleric are precious few. I've ran plenty of raids and upper level quests with 2-3 people without a cleric among them. If you think that clerics do anything other than make a few quests easier or a little less resource intensive, then you're the one that doesn't know what you're talking about.

I get annoyed with self-righteous clerics that think just because they have the spell heal in their arsenal we should kiss the ground they walk on.

If you are annoyed because people don't worship the fact that you're a cleric, please, by all means, delete your cleric and see if the woes and laments are as loud as you apparantly think they are.

No offense but do you even read the posts?

We are trying to raise awareness to people that they need to be a little more self reliant ...

We are also trying to raise awareness to Turbine that people who do try to be more self reliant are not able to because chugging down CSW pots will not "cut the mustard" anymore ... not when mobs are hitting for 200-300+ a shot.

If the mobs max damage increases then a persons ability to be self reliant becomes impossible without providing them with the ability to cure more damage... otherwise you are 100% reliant on the healer in your group ... I don't care how uber a person feels their toon or their guild is .. this is a fact.

You can't chug down CSW pots to heal 30HP max when you are being hit for three times that much.

Raise awareness ... join the cause to help out those who are helping you ... instead of being against us all the time.

I like playing a support role but it is starting to become impossible.

No one should reply to this saying my toon is gimped because it is not ... I have three clerics and two bards on my roster and I am not a dim witted person ... I know how to use a character generator to plan out and create a well thought out toon.

Now one of my clerics is gimped because he was my first toon and I didn't know what I was doing ... I don't have the heart to re-roll him ... that one you can say is gimped.

In any case ... on April 5 ... I will be supporting clerics and leaving mine shelved.

My apologies to all other classes but it is time something was done to raise awareness before it gets worse.

[Laith]

I will play my cleric when and where I please.
agree completely. anyone who'd black list me for playing my cleric saturday is welcome to.
odds are, i don't want to play with them anyhow.


btw, when
"all clerics should strike, to prove a point"
comes before
"sorry no heals, i'm OOM and have already used Xscrolls and Ywands this run",
reason has clearly left the room.

its very rare i see someone express how much they've been spending during a quest, yet all these other clerics are apparently dead broke, fed up, and ready to call it quits.
here's a thought: talk to the people you're questing with.
are you all too worried about being thought rude or something?

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Well, I'll support you.

Mostly because I think it will be funny...and also because I'm a preacher of self sufficiency. I also see some potential to make some cash on my Rog/Sor/Rgr/Pal.........

Sadly I will also have to shelf my Ftr/Brb/Wiz toons that day.....since all my toons are dirt poor lately. :(
(never understood why clerics think they are expensive.....my Ftr and especially Brb are expensive!)

But be careful what you wish for........they just might realise they don't need clerics in their group!

[Yajerman01]

AND THE ROGUES ACROSS THE WORLDS WILL UNITE AND JOIN IN ON THIS DAY AND HAVE AN OFFICIAL "NO LOCK-TRAP PICKING DAY"

Thats right, we will unite and defy all those who wish to enter a room on our +5 tools. The tremendous cost that we incur from going to traps and doors and traps and...... yeah!

That means no more ELITE UBER ITEMS, no more QUest finishes such as IN VONS 5 on elite!


yeah - TAKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!

[Vyctor]

Umm, no.

Clerics don't often get the appreciation in PUGs that they deserve, true. I play several, and usually in PUGs, so I'm well aware of the problem.

The people who make clerics' lives miserable will not change because they can't find a cleric for one day. They'll probably just chalk it up, like they usually do, to us not being willing to "do our jobs"...hence the phrase commonly uttered by clerics, "I can't heal stupid." It's not coincidence that most of these fools are not in guilds - they'd drive the clerics out of any guild that let them join.

Clerics are the best at healing, but they're far from being the only healers. Bards, as you mentioned, heal also - usually more than they'd like to. Paladins have saved the bacon of many parties through Lay on Hands, wands and spells. Rangers can use wands, so can many rogues through UMD. I've even seen sorcerers using cure wands through their UMD skills, though that's fairly rare. Anyone can take an Aid or Rage clickie along with them and use it for emergency HP boosting of party members, especially if it's the cleric who's incapped. Any halfling who chooses to can get healing-based dragonmarks, though I realize many consider it a "waste" of feats I've seen dragonmark-granted Heals work wonders in a tough area. And let's not forget that every class and race can carry potions so they can self-heal.

Now, a day where zergers go on strike and refuse to zerg, I could REALLY go for.

Why oh why do rogues always get left out of the UMD healer equation? I can't tell you how many times my rogue has popped off a heal scroll or a rez scroll to save a party from a complete wipe...

[Sambvca]

AND THE ROGUES ACROSS THE WORLDS WILL UNITE AND JOIN IN ON THIS DAY AND HAVE AN OFFICIAL "NO LOCK-TRAP PICKING DAY"

Thats right, we will unite and defy all those who wish to enter a room on our +5 tools. The tremendous cost that we incur from going to traps and doors and traps and...... yeah!

That means no more ELITE UBER ITEMS, no more QUest finishes such as IN VONS 5 on elite!


yeah - TAKE THAT!!!!!!!!!!

Get your own day!

[dawnyel]

Of course you may.

Hands you a chocolate cupcake.

oh thank you it is wonderful.

[Ro-Longo]

Umm, right here is where you claim to be the Cleric of all Clerics and prove yourself to be the the D-bag of all D-bags.

you posted "all clerics are called upon to strike!" We seek the support of the bard class too!" So with your very first statement you are claiming authority. Your threat to label those of us who do not comply as "scabs" only further emphasizes that you think you are much more important than you really are.

We have all seen the posts over the last few days claiming that clerics don't get sufficient restitution for their healing services. Don't pretend in this thread that you haven't been complicit in demanding that restitution. Just don't.

The rest of your comments, while funny in there own special little short bus nerd-fury type of way don't answer any of my statements and really just reinforce my statement that you confirm the sterotype that clerics are a bunch of self-righteous twits

And my day has been lovely, thanks very much.

I think you fail to see the humor in the op. Try to read it with a smile and turn that frown upside down :)

[Moriendi]

oh thank you it is wonderful.

I shoulda just asked for a cupcake!

[juniorpfactors]

I'm just curious...

Those people who are talking about how great it is to play a cleric and how they never have to ask for fundage, and never have any problems... What level is your cleric? I have two... A level 16 and a level 11. My level 16 has no problems what-so-ever with groups, pugs, zergers, dumba$$es, money, etc. My level 11 is finally starting to get out of that Mid-level hell which is full of idiots who are nothing but a resource and time drain.

So I wonder, maybe it is just the mid-levels that are so bad for the clerics? Or do people have consistently bad experiences at all levels? ;)

the answer to this ? is actually quit simple..... its the people that all they do is play a cleric, they have no other main alts that are raid ready and if they do its like 1 toon...they spend time in the harbor and get no loot :) spend all their money on scrolls and well maybe get abused and not tipped by groups,.... they have 1 or 2 mains... and They are known to be a cleric....

my opinion is if you play alot ,,, you better have a cleric to run the raid or runs and in the end it all equals out....

jrp

[juniorpfactors]

Why oh why do rogues always get left out of the UMD healer equation? I can't tell you how many times my rogue has popped off a heal scroll or a rez scroll to save a party from a complete wipe...

congrats....like any umd toon can, or any paly with LOH does...its called working as a team

jrp

[Cupcake]

Well, I'll support you.

Mostly because I think it will be funny...and also because I'm a preacher of self sufficiency. I also see some potential to make some cash on my Rog/Sor/Rgr/Pal.........

Sadly I will also have to shelf my Ftr/Brb/Wiz toons that day.....since all my toons are dirt poor lately. :(
(never understood why clerics think they are expensive.....my Ftr and especially Brb are expensive!)

But be careful what you wish for........they just might realise they don't need clerics in their group!

Fighters and Barbarians are defiitely two classes that are expensive to run, especially when you maintain the self-sufficient stance.

My level 13 fighter is poor, not broke, but poor, because I wont quest without 20-25 cure serious potions, haste potions, lesser restore, remove fear, remove curse, or barkskin. Now I know that 20-25 is not alot but 25 cure serious bougt all at once at what 600 to 800 gp each is costly on its own. Restocking is costly.

But I refuse to enter a quest without those items and be a drain on anyone.

[Yajerman01]

Get your own day!

As a true rogue, I am stealing this day from you and assassinating all clerics that try and take it back. This is now a thread for Rogue UNITY!!!!!!!!

<your thread is now officially hijacked>

(yawn) - No LOCK NO PICK!!!! <stomp stomp stomp>

NO LOCKS, NO PICKS, <stomp stomp stomp>

NO LOCKS, NO PICKS <stomp, stomp stomp>

Now if your still reading this and taking me seriously, then you need to stop wrting in this thread, go outside and breath the fresh unfiltered air!

[Cupcake]

I shoulda just asked for a cupcake!

Hands you one anyways.

[smatt]

LOL, as if clerics actually heal these days..... But when clerics do...... They get my full support and more than generous donations.....

[roadkill525]

I'll go even further... Even my wand healing characters and Dragonmarked Halfling Rogue will be absent Friday, Saturday, and most of Sunday. To resist temptation I will sleeping on a floor Friday night, under a truck pulling out the Clutch Saturday morning, deciding the fate of my poor Ogre Kingdom army as I move them about a 4'x4' table and hopefully smash Skaven, Brettonians, and Orcs Saturday afternoon and evening, on the floor again Saturday night, and then under the truck again Sunday putting the dang thing back together(hopefully) correctly.

don know what oger kingdom is but it sounds like fun... but yer still too close to the compy... ya could be tempted to sneak back. ats why I'ma be sittin around a fire miles and miles away

[roadkill525]

Now if your still reading this and taking me seriously, then you need to stop wrting in this thread, go outside and breath the fresh unfiltered air!

unfiltered air is very very bad for ya.

[Moriendi]

I think you fail to see the humor in the op. Try to read it with a smile and turn that frown upside down :)

your right, I don't see the humor in it. Although I probably would have if the OP hadn't immediately started with his scabs list the first time someone disagreed with him.

Sorry, I thought the game was about having fun, not about having someone tell me when and where I could play.

Apologies if I am a bit bristly, but all these poor poor clerics whine threads are really getting to me.

For what it is worth, you did bring a smile to my face.

[Mercules]

don know what oger kingdom is but it sounds like fun... but yer still too close to the compy... ya could be tempted to sneak back. ats why I'ma be sittin around a fire miles and miles away

Nope... while there is a LAN center at the game shop there are only 2 computers with DDO on them and either one would take several hours to update at this point. :) Also, I refuse to pay for computer access. I will be playing Warhammer(with my Ogre army) all day long and no computer could drag me away from a chance to play since I have a computer at home but no wargame players. ;)

[dawnyel]

I shoulda just asked for a cupcake!

I think she may have strawberry too.

[Yajerman01]

your right, I don't see the humor in it. Although I probably would have if the OP hadn't immediately started with his scabs list the first time someone disagreed with him.

Sorry, I thought the game was about having fun, not about having someone tell me when and where I could play.

Apologies if I am a bit bristly, but all these poor poor clerics whine threads are really getting to me.

For what it is worth, you did bring a smile to my face.

No more talk of clerics! <looks around> this is a rogue strike now!

NO MORE LOCKS NO MORE PICKS...............

[Wizzly_Bear]

I am already self sufficient and do not rely on Clerics. I know how much it costs to keep my Barb in pots. To turn this back on the Clerics some of this is created by the players. We get speeches like "if you run off I can't heal you" which indicates that you intend to babysit me, what if I am not relying on you to heal me? I'm not saying that there aren't some players that are Cleric sponges but some of this is brought on by the Clerics. And yes I have played a Cleric before.


Meh, who needs a cleric.


How about when I tell the Cleric don't worry about healing me in between fights?
And yet 2 seconds after I've hit myself with a Heal Scroll the cleric is throwing a heal on me. Then the same cleric will complain because he's running low on SP and will need to recall to get some more.

The problem with most Clerics and players in general is that they've put too much importance on a Babysitter.
I'd rather go without a Cleric then listen to a Babysitter complaining about the costs of Babysitting.

I am, Rameses!

all qft

and btw, if you can pull this off, then thank you very much. it would be very nice to have a day where i dont have to listen to clerics complaining and whining. i ask all clerics to not heal me unless incap b/c i play self sufficiently, but not once do any of you listen, and then you complain about expensive your class is. i even gave my wf wiz immunity to healing for a time, but yet still do you all heal me. if you dont want to babysit, then dont. "man up" and say no sometimes. why heal rangers, bards, and pallies between fights? they can all use wands just as well as you can. stop trying to coddle everyone.

ps. ill be playing my cleric on strike day out of spite, but dont worry, i dont play babysitter clerics.

[roadkill525]

Nope... while there is a LAN center at the game shop there are only 2 computers with DDO on them and either one would take several hours to update at this point. :) Also, I refuse to pay for computer access. I will be playing Warhammer(with my Ogre army) all day long and no computer could drag me away from a chance to play since I have a computer at home but no wargame players. ;)


oh me and a friend of mine tryed doing that warhammer thing... we each bought a starter set, the one with the goblins and dwarfs, gave him my dwarfs and I took his goblins. gotta say it was fun while it lasted, but we to lazy to paint our peices (specialy me sence I got 3-4x the amount of peices) and his wife will not allow him to be one of those geeks that goes to the gameshop to play on the weekend. so we got bored of only fighting each other, and sence I wasn;t painting my army they only let me play a few times at the gameshop. ats right! I got rejected by the gameshop geeks.

[bobbryan2]

No offense but do you even read the posts?

We are trying to raise awareness to people that they need to be a little more self reliant ...

We are also trying to raise awareness to Turbine that people who do try to be more self reliant are not able to because chugging down CSW pots will not "cut the mustard" anymore ... not when mobs are hitting for 200-300+ a shot.

If the mobs max damage increases then a persons ability to be self reliant becomes impossible without providing them with the ability to cure more damage... otherwise you are 100% reliant on the healer in your group ... I don't care how uber a person feels their toon or their guild is .. this is a fact.

You can't chug down CSW pots to heal 30HP max when you are being hit for three times that much.

Raise awareness ... join the cause to help out those who are helping you ... instead of being against us all the time.

I like playing a support role but it is starting to become impossible.

No one should reply to this saying my toon is gimped because it is not ... I have three clerics and two bards on my roster and I am not a dim witted person ... I know how to use a character generator to plan out and create a well thought out toon.

Now one of my clerics is gimped because he was my first toon and I didn't know what I was doing ... I don't have the heart to re-roll him ... that one you can say is gimped.

In any case ... on April 5 ... I will be supporting clerics and leaving mine shelved.

My apologies to all other classes but it is time something was done to raise awareness before it gets worse.


First off... if your guys are taking so much damage that you 'need' a cleric to keep you healed up, one of two things have happened. Either A) you have decided that you do more damage this way, and you have the cleric to back you up, so you choose to use this strategy, or B) Rethink your strategy. There's always more than one way to skin a cat.

People get used to strategies like... use mass heals centered around the pit fiend in part four. But there are other things you can do to stave off a TON of that damage. Using intimtanks to hold aggro outside his melee range, or having a predominately ranged power group, etc.

In short, I don't agree that it's the problem you think it is. None of my characters, casters, melees, mixbreeds are ever in situations where they are taking more damage than they can handle and (they don't choose to be there).

So no, I don't think Turbine needs to realize the situation. In general, I think that melees that take obscene damage need to simply be left to rot and they'll figure out a way to not die eventually. But preachy clerics bug me. If someone's taking too much damage, let 'em die, then rezz 'em after the fight.

So, I don't really think it's the Cleric's job to bring us the light, and show everyone how to be self-sufficient.

Just play the game, and if you don't like being held responsible for other characters, either a) don't pug with your cleric or b) don't play your cleric. We all know it's not ever the cleric's fault when another character dies, but it's up to the cleric to grow some thick skin and not get annoyed when another character flips out.

My sorc has had many a melee flip out because of her tactics... but it doesn't upset me. I suggest a similar tactic for every cleric here that thinks a 'strike' is in order.

[Heladron]

The problem, OP, with your short sighted thinking is that the door could swing both ways.

You're assuming that the lesson to be learned is that players will not be able to have fun or survive without clerics. What could actually happen is that, like every problem that has ever prevented itself in the game, it will be solved when people realize how to do the quest without your cleric there at all. You lesson will render your cleric obsolete. Your cleric will not only be poor but completely useless. You can shortcut the whole thing and just delete that character now.

Then to add further insult, you'll be on here complaining that your cleric doesn't get invited to play just like the rogues and rangers.

This is a sure fire way to get the support of everyone. Just beat them right over the head with it and create resentment.

Go ahead don't play, ridicule me for playing my cleric and not jumping on this silly endeavor. I'm going to go out and buy my extra large loot rake because I'm am going to have access to any party I want.

[JacknCoke]

I don't have a cleric, but I will be grinding my bard as hard as I can between now and sat. If you need a small time combat medic PLEASE hit me up.

I rolled my Bard to be a support healer. I'm not a doctor more of a combat medic. My job is to keep YOU alive. Even if that means my death. I'm not in it for the glory or plat. I save lives while the clerics are busy inflating there heads and smelling there own farts.

Sounds like the clerics now day have forgotten what or why they became the doctors of DDO. If you want the recognition for something you chose the wrong class. Nothing is worse then a cleric with his/her priorities mixed up. The ones who agree to this strike sound like you would fit in more as a "Hollyreach" plastic surgeon and not a Doctor.

So if you need a Bard please look me up. Im not the best, nor hope to ever be. But if you need me Im there. Ill heal or take the agro to keep you alive if needs be. Thats just how I roll.

[Arianrhod]

I don't have a cleric, but I will be grinding my bard as hard as I can between now and sat. If you need a small time combat medic PLEASE hit me up.

I rolled my Bard to be a support healer. I'm not a doctor more of a combat medic. My job is to keep YOU alive. Even if that means my death. I'm not in it for the glory or plat. I save lives while the clerics are busy inflating there heads and smelling there own farts.

Sounds like the clerics now day have forgotten what or why they became the doctors of DDO. If you want the recognition for something you chose the wrong class. Nothing is worse then a cleric with his/her priorities mixed up. The ones who agree to this strike sound like you would fit in more as a "Hollyreach" plastic surgeon and not a Doctor.

hehehe...you'll learn, Jack....just wait till the nth quest where all the blue dots have turned into white arrows (all in different directions), red bars are dropping all over the place, and you're still trying to find your way back to that last shrine everyone else skipped because "we don't need it" ;)

[Moriendi]

I think she may have strawberry too.

Strawberry cupcakes!! That made my day. Although, in all fairness, I am happy to take whatever cupcakes may be handed my way, strawberry, chocolate or even purple with gold and pink sprinkles cream cheese icing and a big ol maraschino cherry on top.

[Hiletroy]

I don't have a cleric, but I will be grinding my bard as hard as I can between now and sat. If you need a small time combat medic PLEASE hit me up.

I rolled my Bard to be a support healer. I'm not a doctor more of a combat medic. My job is to keep YOU alive. Even if that means my death. I'm not in it for the glory or plat. I save lives while the clerics are busy inflating there heads and smelling there own farts.


I nominate this for post of the year. jackncoke just summed up the bard mantra in one sentence.....AND made me LMAO.

[DelScorcho]

Let the bad clerics strike. The ones who don't heal at all, the ones who exclusively scroll cast heal, and the ones who still wand heal in combat in Meridia.

[JacknCoke]

hehehe...you'll learn, Jack....just wait till the nth quest where all the blue dots have turned into white arrows (all in different directions), red bars are dropping all over the place, and you're still trying to find your way back to that last shrine everyone else skipped because "we don't need it" ;)

I think in my short time I have learned more then you. Its my job to keep the fighters WHO IN TURN are there to keep me alive, alive. You do know that fighter in front of you right.. the one taking agro so you don't have to... you see him?! take a good look! I SAID LOOK AT HIM! Hes flesh and blood. ARE you the one who is going to write home to his or her mother telling then there kid died in a dungeon of stormreach trying to keep you alive but you were to busy thinking how cool you are because "im a Cleric, look how cool I am" and smelling your own gas?! HOW DARE YOU SIR HOW DARE YOU!

[Heladron]

if anything at all comes out of this "strike", it'll be the illustration of how few people read and/or care about the issues that are considered a big deal on the forums...

good luck...

QFT

[MissErres]

I think in my short time I have learned more then you. Its my job to keep the fighters WHO IN TURN are there to keep me alive, alive. You do know that fighter in front of you right.. the one taking agro so you don't have to... you see him?! take a good look! I SAID LOOK AT HIM! Hes flesh and blood. ARE you the one who is going to write home to his or her mother telling then there kid died in a dungeon of stormreach trying to keep you alive but you were to busy thinking how cool you are because "im a Cleric, look how cool I am" and smelling your own gas?! HOW DARE YOU SIR HOW DARE YOU!

This really is getting comical. It makes my long, boring day at work go much faster. Thank you guys, so very much! BTW... I'm not part of the crew, but can I have a cupcake too? Chocolate if ya got it...

[Arianrhod]

I think in my short time I have learned more then you. Its my job to keep the fighters WHO IN TURN are there to keep me alive, alive. You do know that fighter in front of you right.. the one taking agro so you don't have to... you see him?! take a good look! I SAID LOOK AT HIM! Hes flesh and blood. ARE you the one who is going to write home to his or her mother telling then there kid died in a dungeon of stormreach trying to keep you alive but you were to busy thinking how cool you are because "im a Cleric, look how cool I am" and smelling your own gas?! HOW DARE YOU SIR HOW DARE YOU!

Hehe...(all in good fun) No, i don't see him. He ran off 5 minutes ago. I'd really like to find him, but there's this long trail of nasty monsters between us that he didn't seem to think were worth his time... :D

[FluffyDucky]

While I don't care about the strike one way or another it would be fun to run with some all cleric groups. One of my best times in Stormreach was an all cleric run of the catacombs. A great time was had by all. No one yelling for heals, the only red bar to keep track of was my own, and some new players learning that clerics can be more than healbots. One of the best parts was everyone laughing at all the nasty tells the leader kept getting saying no one could run any quests because he was hogging all the clerics.

[oronisi]

I don't have a cleric, but I will be grinding my bard as hard as I can between now and sat. If you need a small time combat medic PLEASE hit me up.

I rolled my Bard to be a support healer. I'm not a doctor more of a combat medic. My job is to keep YOU alive. Even if that means my death. I'm not in it for the glory or plat. I save lives while the clerics are busy inflating there heads and smelling there own farts.

Sounds like the clerics now day have forgotten what or why they became the doctors of DDO. If you want the recognition for something you chose the wrong class. Nothing is worse then a cleric with his/her priorities mixed up. The ones who agree to this strike sound like you would fit in more as a "Hollyreach" plastic surgeon and not a Doctor.

So if you need a Bard please look me up. Im not the best, nor hope to ever be. But if you need me Im there. Ill heal or take the agro to keep you alive if needs be. Thats just how I roll.


Dude, I think you need to look at your classes again. Clerics are the 'combat medics', not bards. Clerics have more HP than bards, wear heavier armor, can use heavier shields. Also, clerics cast OFFENSIVE (as in combat) spells, while bards don't. Clerics are combat medics, the only 'doctors' in this game I know are the silver flame guys in the inn that fix you up for cash.

[Gypsy_Mouse]

I'm all for people getting off their butts and being more self-sufficient with pots/wands/scrolls.

But, as I've recently said in another thread:

I CHOSE to be a cleric. My choice, no one twisted my arm. This means I take on ALL the responsibility and cost of running my character as each person does with theirs.


My job as a cleric (meaning how I've built MY cleric, not all clerics) is as the main healer.

I also choose to use wands and scrolls to supplement my healing capabilities. I don't have to, it's my choice. I also get to choose when I use these items.

I get to choose who I heal and when. If your poorly built character (and lack of consideration in bringing your own healing/resists) is eating through my mana, I won't be using supplies on you unless I feel like it and most likely I'll be adding your name to my list of characters to avoid.

I've had my fair share of really crappy PUGs, mishaps in a quest resulting in wipes, and all kinds of coin expenditure.


BUT, I won't stop playing a character because someone else feels they've been slighted. I won't tolerate someone telling me how to play my character, so I sure as heck won't let someone else even suggest I not even play my character.


Do I expect to have the whole community to suddenly become enlightened by this event? Nope
Do I expect I'll still have to deal with idiots and poorly built characters? You bet.
Does this mean I'm gonna stop playing? Well.....not in the near future.


Good luck with your strike. If it works on your server, then more power to you!

I'll be playing both my cleric and bard (as those are the only two classes I play currently) on my server this weekend. :)

[MissErres]

I will share mine with you. It is all about love in this thread, no?

Thanx Mori, you didn't put a booger in it, did ya? :eek:

[genericearthling]

as leader of the magic workers union on khyber i am for the strike, as a warforged wizard i also dont care.

[JaeBeam]

While I don't care about the strike one way or another it would be fun to run with some all cleric groups. One of my best times in Stormreach was an all cleric run of the catacombs. A great time was had by all.

+1

I have never run with an all cleric party before, it sounds like a good time. I hope I can get enough participation on Saturday to do a run at that Lich in the tower by Delara's.

I doubt there will be any angry tells, the player base on Argo is far too self sufficient AND mature to worry about having a cleric in their groups. Clerics are actually encouraged to DPS when they join groups.

See everyone in Argo!

[dawnyel]

Thanx Mori, you didn't put a booger in it, did ya? :eek:

I ate all of mine a while ago....

[MissErres]

I ate all of mine a while ago....

Late again. Story of my life. I really must remember to put my 30 striders on. :o

[Moriendi]

Thanx Mori, you didn't put a booger in it, did ya? :eek:

i only do that when i feel a bit flirty. i have also been known to throw sand and call ladies poo-poo heads :o

[JacknCoke]

Dude, I think you need to look at your classes again. Clerics are the 'combat medics', not bards. Clerics have more HP than bards, wear heavier armor, can use heavier shields. Also, clerics cast OFFENSIVE (as in combat) spells, while bards don't. Clerics are combat medics, the only 'doctors' in this game I know are the silver flame guys in the inn that fix you up for cash.

No you got it wrong. Clerics are the most powerful healers a player can play therefore they are closer to the doctors. Bards are more the combat medic, 1st responders, EMT, paramedics if you will. The silver flame guys are 1. a NPC and 2. Are closer public clinic vending machines there to give you penicillin if you "hung out with the wrong person" the night be4 and need a shot/pill, the guys you go to when you already know whats wrong and need a shot.

SO out of the people who can actually accompany you on a quest clerics are the doctors and bards are in fact the combat medics. savvy?

[Tolero]

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