Scorcing ray question

[Vvix]

Hello everyone, i played ddo at the release(rolled a wiz)up to lvl 9 and quit the game. Got to lvl 11 2 weeks ago and gave up on my wiz. Now i'm leveling a sorcerer(lvl 7 atm and loving it). The thing is, sorcerers cast fast than wizards in ddo, but i noticed that my scorcing ray isnt being cast any fast that it was on my wizard(i could be wrong, because i dont play my wiz for some time)... anyways, on my sorc, the scorcing ray is being cast a lot slower than all my other spells, why is that?

Thanks in advance and sorry if it's a too newbish question. ;)

[Arnya]

That spell and others have a longer casting animation than, say, magic missile.

As a sorc, your spell COOLDOWNS are quicker allowing faster REcasting :)

[Kargon]

actuamally spell animatimion times SHOULD be cut in half for a sorc too. Just try casting a Dancing ball on a sorc or a wiz, then watch the oppomosite class cast the same spell and try to tell kargon not going twice as fast for sorcermermer.

might be a very valid bug, kargon nevermer tried a wizamard though so somemabody else would have to test silly wizamard scorching ray vs sorcermermerr scorchaming ray.

also make sure the wizamard in question not using Quicken, might effect outcome ;)

[Vvix]

Thank you two for the replies :)

So yea, i figured scorcing ray casting animation should be the same as, say, niac's? But it's not, it's slower.

Also, how good is quicken for a sorcerer? So far i have Heighten and empower as metamagic feats.

And Arnya, yea i kinda noticed that the cooldown for us sorcs was faster, but i wasn't sure, now i am. :D

[KoboldKiller]

Bah, Sorcs! -Einan 15th Wizzy

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Bah, Sorcs! -Einan 15th Wizzy

Wizards, the other spellcasting class...

[KoboldKiller]

Wizards, the other spellcasting class...

Wizards, the superior casting class.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Wizards, the superior casting class.

Dude,

Dont make me get Scottish on ya...

[Merkinsal]

I was in the Vale yesterday duoing with a Sorc who has Quicken (and loves it). I could not believe how fast he was able to get a dancing ball and solid fog up. The casts seemed almost instantanious. He says there is no concentration check with Quicken on since casts go so fast. I have heard some say there is some inconvenience to toggle it on and off since it is not always needed and eats sp but for a fast reaction to an unexpected situation it seems just the solution. I just don't know what feat I would trade it for and never expect to get into unexpected situations lol so I'm having a difficult time choosing what to do.

[Mr._Dna]

I would be interested to hear the results of the scorching ray test...I actually have a level 2 wizard, maybe I'll get him to 3 so I can try that spell out. It seems plenty fast on my sorc right now, but I wouldn't complain if it were a bug and it was made even faster :)

As far as Quicken, I don't think it's a good feat choice for a sorcerer. The best part of that feat is that it lets you avoid concentration checks, but your spells are going to go off so fast that you'll rarely be interrupted. You're gonna be strapped for feats anyway. It does make a nice cleric feat, in my opinion, though. Even there I use it less than 50% of the time b/c it burns mana faster.

[KoboldKiller]

Dude,

Dont make me get Scottish on ya...

:D

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Wizards, the other spellcasting class...

ROTFL!

Ahhmmm....hey, I like my Wiz!

[transtemporal]

Good question OP. I can't say I notice a lot of difference between casting times of scorching on my sorc and my wiz 4 but that might because I'm just used to slower casting times on the wiz. I'll try it out tonight and let you know.

[Desteria]

Thank you two for the replies :)

So yea, i figured scorcing ray casting animation should be the same as, say, niac's? But it's not, it's slower.

Also, how good is quicken for a sorcerer? So far i have Heighten and empower as metamagic feats.

And Arnya, yea i kinda noticed that the cooldown for us sorcs was faster, but i wasn't sure, now i am. :D

imo quicken is not needed and sorc are feat straped as is, I'm human and i want more feats !!!

With my sorc many spell cast so fast any way the chances of getitng hti and intrupted are minimal with a few of the longer ones it can happen but if you have half decent concentration, mmm titan goggles or evetualy tempered goggles, My sorc has ruffly +40 con atm it takes over 30 damage getitng through your defenses to have any chance at failing really so it;s very veyr rare i lose a spell to a con check.

where as to give up another feat to fit quicken in then have to toggle it all the time or just leave it on (liek i do on my cleric), woudl eat a lot of SP or be a pita... on a acleric i LOVE quicken nothign liek getitng stuck in a logn BB cast and needign to heal soem one, and/or castign heal/mcmw near instentanusly AS the BIG fire ball hits you is priceless.

[Analyst]

Wizards, the other spellcasting class...

What are these wizards you speak of?

[Shade]

Wizards do infact cast this spell FASTER then sorcerer.
Indeed it is bugged.

Another bugged dmg spell:

Cone of Cold - cast almost twice as fast by wizards vs sorcerers. One of the main reason i rarely cast the spell on my sorc yet know it is a favourite of many wizards.

Luckily my favorite dmg spell - delayed blast fireball does work correctly, its cast twice as fast on a sorcerer vs wizard.. Slow as hell on a wizard almost unuseable lol.

[Vvix]

Wizards do infact cast this spell FASTER then sorcerer.
Indeed it is bugged.

Another bugged dmg spell:

Cone of Cold - cast almost twice as fast by wizards vs sorcerers. One of the main reason i rarely cast the spell on my sorc yet know it is a favourite of many wizards.

Luckily my favorite dmg spell - delayed blast fireball does work correctly, its cast twice as fast on a sorcerer vs wizard.. Slow as hell on a wizard almost unuseable lol.

Are you sure about this? I was so waiting for lvl 10 to get cone of cold, loved it on my wizard... And since my sorc is fire/cold speced i was considering CoC as my main cold damage spell. If i dont grab cone of cold the only other option for AoE cold spell is otiluke's right?

[Solmage]

Hmmm I have not noticed this so called fast casting vs slow on my wizard vs my sorc. From where I'm standing, my sorcerer spams scorching rays faster than my wizard, as well as CoCs.

I suppose I'll pay more attention since it's possible that the casting TIME is faster for the wizard, but with the cooldown added, the sorcerer is still faster, but since these spells are cast almost instantaneously anyway, I don't see this as a big issue.

Keep in mind that at higher levels, you cast faster, by the way. Both scorching ray and CoC are favorites of my lvl 16s sorc and wizard.

But now I'll have to go and actually test the speed. Ugh! :)

Ok, tested:

Scorching rays cast in 60 seconds, timed via haste spell counter, give or take 1 cast for margin of error:

Wizard: 20
Sorcerer: 33

It does seem as if the animation may be a hair faster on the wizard, but it's not particularly bothersome, and as the test demonstrates, you're still getting a lot more scorching rays out than the wizard.