Striding math

[Slapphappy]

Having played the game for most of a year, I am slowly figuring out the stacking rules, mostly by askin questions on the forums. Here is my latest question...

There are various things in the game to make you run faster - off the top of my head...
striding items (of various percentages)
expeditious retreat
haste
warp time
sprint boost

How does the stacking math work with these?

Thanks!

[MrCow]

Things that increase your running speed fall into three categories currently:


Enhancement via item/spell/spell-like effect
Striding Item
Haste
Expeditious Retreat
Longstrider
Warp Time
etc.
Action Boost
Ranger Sprint Boost
Barbarian Sprint Boost
Class-granted Feat
Barbarian innate movement speed


Only the highest from each category stack with each other.

[Alavatar]

As a note: the class granted ability, Monk Fast Movement, will be an enhancement and will not stack with the enhancement bonuses.

And before you ask: No, you cannot make a Monk/Barbarian because monks must be lawful and barbarians must be non-lawful.

[Mad_Bombardier]

As a note: the class granted ability, Monk Fast Movement, will be an enhancement and will not stack with the enhancement bonuses.It's going to be an enhancement? Oooh, where'd you read that?

[Alavatar]

It's going to be an enhancement? Oooh, where'd you read that?

Enhancement bonus, similar to haste. That is, if they implement it correctly.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm

[Wu_Jen]

Enhancement bonus, similar to haste. That is, if they implement it correctly.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm

I hope a monks speed increase comes with his levels and not from enhancements, but leave it to DDO to take a class/race feature and make you pay for it with AP's. Drow SR and Monks speed should be granted not payed for. Remember how nobody played WF because of the immunity AP's. /sigh.

[Elistor]

I hope a monks speed increase comes with his levels and not from enhancements, but leave it to DDO to take a class/race feature and make you pay for it with AP's. Drow SR and Monks speed should be granted not payed for. Remember how nobody played WF because of the immunity AP's. /sigh.

Enhancement bonus does NOT equal AP enhancements(Why could they have not chosen a word NOT already in use?). It's just the CATEGORY type of bonus. IE +6 str gloves are an enhancement bonus to str which is why they don't stack with bulls str because it's also a +4 enhancement bonus. Since barbs get there speed bonus as a class ability monks **** well better not have to pay for it.

[Wu_Jen]

Enhancement bonus does NOT equal AP enhancements(Why could they have not chosen a word NOT already in use?). It's just the CATEGORY type of bonus. IE +6 str gloves are an enhancement bonus to str which is why they don't stack with bulls str because it's also a +4 enhancement bonus. Since barbs get there speed bonus as a class ability monks **** well better not have to pay for it.

I know they aren't the same. Sorry for a poor choice of words. But I'm thinking that they will make the monks speed increase into a AP thing instead of getting for free. Like they did with the drow's SR. Or if you read the massivly.com interview the Drow Class :P

Does the Drow Class give you TWF with Scimitars for free? Do you get to summon magical panthers? How does that work? :)

[Attomic]

I know they aren't the same. Sorry for a poor choice of words. But I'm thinking that they will make the monks speed increase into a AP thing instead of getting for free. Like they did with the drow's SR. Or if you read the massivly.com interview the Drow Class :P

Does the Drow Class give you TWF with Scimitars for free? Do you get to summon magical panthers? How does that work? :)

There will probably be an increase in base speed for monks without spending action points, just as there is for barbarians - the action-point enhancement just increases that elevated speed significantly for a short period of time. It surprised me when I finally rolled up a barb a little time ago how much faster he moved around the city, even without striding boots on.

[Borror0]

That is, if they implement it correctly.

So, about 50% that it's going to stack.:D

[Mad_Bombardier]

Enhancement bonus, similar to haste. That is, if they implement it correctly.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htmOh, gotcha. I was confused because you didn't say bonus in your first post. So, Monk Unarmored Speed Bonus shouldn't stack and will replace Striders or Haste. Surely not +200% as in PnP, but maybe they can open it up a lot!

[Wu_Jen]

Oh, gotcha. I was confused because you didn't say bonus in your first post. So, Monk Unarmored Speed Bonus shouldn't stack and will replace Striders or Haste. Surely not +200% as in PnP, but maybe they can open it up a lot!

Actually the Monk Speed bonus (up to 60%) should stack with haste and striders. The Barbs speed bonus is the same, albeit lower i.e. 10% and it stacks. Why wouldn't the monks? Its only a run speed not a bonus to attack speed.

It's my best guess though that the Devs will see it as 'overpowered' and will make it into an AP thing to get it above 10%....just like a Drows SR. You heard it here 1st. :(

[Mad_Bombardier]

Actually the Monk Speed bonus (up to 60%) should stack with haste and striders. The Barbs speed bonus is the same, albeit lower i.e. 10% and it stacks. Why wouldn't the monks? Its only a run speed not a bonus to attack speed.As Alavatar showed in his link to the SRD, Monk Unarmored Speed Bonus is an enhancement bonus to movement rate. Striders and Haste are also enhancement bonuses to movement rate. And enhancement bonuses do not stack. So, if implemented as per PnP, then it won't stack.

[Wu_Jen]

As Alavatar showed in his link to the SRD, Monk Unarmored Speed Bonus is an enhancement bonus to movement rate. Striders and Haste are also enhancement bonuses to movement rate. And enhancement bonuses do not stack. So, if implemented as per PnP, then it won't stack.

Ah, found it. Sorry I'll chalk my ignorance up to dogma. I was thinking that monk and barb speed bonus's came from the same source.

Fast Movement (Ex (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#extraordinaryAbilities))

At 3rd level, a monk gains an enhancement bonus (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#enhancementBonus) to her speed, as shown on Table: The Monk (http://www.d20srd.org/srd/classes/monk.htm#tableTheMonk). A monk in armor or carrying a medium or heavy load loses this extra speed.


Thank you for clearing that up for me! Although I'll still go with the bonus's being an AP. :D

[Dracolich]

Doesnt the monks speed eventually turn into a supernatural ability? I cant recall I thought the sage stated once your speed exceed "x" it is no longer able to stack with boots of striding and springing. I would assume up and until that level your speed would stack. I think I am wrong though maybe it was 3.0 monk speed not 3.5 because in 3.0 striding boots doubled your speed and anything exceeding 90ft a round I thought was magical and didnt stack with boots. Sorry if I am screwing up my editions but I blame WotC. :)

Of course in 3.0 my monk had a jump skill and movment speed that were insane. at 24th level I think his jump was +60 and his movment was 120ft but that was when striding of springing boots were awsome now they are just ordanary.

[Wu_Jen]

It's kind of weird though that we don't have the base movement speeds put in. A dwarf will move slower than an elf etc. But then we use a system, such as the Barb speed that adds +10 to the races base speed. Kind of weird to pick and choose but......thats DDO.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Ah, found it. Sorry I'll chalk my ignorance up to dogma. <snip>

Thank you for clearing that up for me! Although I'll still go with the bonus's being an AP. :DI just learned that today, too! I never bothered to look it up before Alavatar brought it to my attention. :)