Game is horribly flawed

[Kratier]

One simple aspect, healing .


I am a newb to this game, but I've been playing D&D games since text based MUDs and i have to say one reason this game is flawed is the aspect of healing.

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?

Thats silly, and stupid. Make it easier for the player to solo, do not force grouping, and allow healing kits to regen HP. Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.

[moorewr]

Welcome to DDO! Now, I'm guessing from your line of thinking that you do not play pen-and-paper D&D..

First, it is certainly not true that the majority of upper-level characters are clerics.. far from it...

Second.. if you are not a cleric (or other classes with healing spells - rangers, paladins, and bards), you have several options for healing...

1) any class can use potions. Cure potions are sold in the harbor potions shop, the marketplace tent, and many other places.

2) if you have levels in cleric, bard, paladin, or ranger, OR have taken ranks in Use Magical Device, you can use cure wands. These are also on sale in the marketplace tent and many other shops in the Houses.

Have fun learning the game.. and join some parties... just let them know you're new...




One simple aspect, healing .


I am a newb to this game, but I've been playing D&D games since text based MUDs and i have to say one reason this game is flawed is the aspect of healing.

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?

Thats silly, and stupid. Make it easier for the player to solo, do not force grouping, and allow healing kits to regen HP. Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.

[Vesuvia]

That's quite untrue. It's hard to find clerics at high levels because they are so cost intensive to play and many that they group with in PUGs don't contribute to the cost of wands/scrolls/mnuemonic pots. However I am 16 Sorc and I can only fail using heal scrolls when I roll a 1. I got plenty of cure serious wounds pots, and could use wands but why when you can use heal scrolls 95% of the time =)

[SWardCo]

:eek:Finding clerics at hi level is easy especially when you only charge 50 gp per CMW and 100 PP per heal. You gotta tithe you know!!! :eek:

[Vesuvia]

Bah who needs clerics anyway.

Was in shroud pt 4...our 3 clerics died...others died...big boy was at 60% life with me and 4 fighters left...and we still won with a poor little old sorc healin them =)

[moorewr]

By the way, isn't great how newbies start posting before they have their facts lined up? It's cute!

[Hvymetal]

Also I would like to point out that while soloing is possible this is not one of the more solo friendly games out there. It simply was structured around grouping as is P&P (which as a old P&P player I expect you knew?);)

[tihocan]

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing.
Hmm that is not true at all, there aren't that many high level clerics, and the large majority are totally unable to solo the high level stuff, because they lack good damage/crowd control.

That being said, not every class has the same difficulty in soloing. There's not much that can be done about it, because classes are so different. But at low levels any class can solo.

[Strakeln]

One simple aspect, healing .


I am a newb to this game, but I've been playing D&D games since text based MUDs and i have to say one reason this game is flawed is the aspect of healing.

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?

Thats silly, and stupid. Make it easier for the player to solo, do not force grouping, and allow healing kits to regen HP. Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.I can solo on all of my characters. This includes: Barbarian, Cleric, Sorcerer, Ranger, Rogue, Bard

[Hvymetal]

I can solo on all of my characters. This includes: Barbarian, Cleric, Sorcerer, Ranger, Rogue, Bard
Although I would point out that it is far easier on some classes rather than others, *cough* *cough* anything > Rogue for soloing *cough* *cough*

(especially wizards, sorcerers, clerics and bards..):D

[moorewr]

Although I would point out that it is far easier on some classes rather than others, *cough* *cough* anything > Rogue for soloing *cough* *cough*

(especially wizards, sorcerers, clerics and bards..):D

HEY! YOU SPLASHED MY ROGUE!

:rolleyes:

[MJNOR1]

To the OP--Add a level or two of Ranger to your primary class and wand heal yourself. Very helpful in solo situations and cost effective.

[Pellegro]

To the OP:

Welcome to DDO! Its a complex game, that's for sure.

As others have noted, there are a variety of ways to build a solo character and still cover your healing.

1. Healing Potions (or "pots") -- Anyone can use and you can buy up to third tier ones in the various shops (they go: Light, Medium, Serious ... then Critical, but those cannot be purchased ATM). Try Light to start - they're far cheaper and until you have substantial HPs, may be enough. If not, then try Medium. Serious are nice, but the bang for the buck is kinda low, especially if you're cash strapped.

2. Healing Wands -- As noted, having even a level or two of any of the following classes makes you automatically able to use Healing Wands without fail --> Ranger, Paladin, Bard, Cleric. Wands also come in Light, Medium, Serious, and Critical, and can only purchased up to Serious. Multiclassing into any of these classes, even if only 1 level, will make Wand Healing viable. Wands are far cheaper healing than potions.

3. UMD -- If your UMD is sufficiently high, you can use Wands or Scrolls. The problem here is getting your UMD sufficiently high. Its quite possible if you have maxxed out UMD all along, and even more likely if you've got UMD as a class-skill (Rogue / Bard) - although that is not necessary.

In sum, there are many self-healing options.

Good luck in your adventures!

[Aspenor]

To be perfectly honest I was upset when I started playing that healer's kits do not help you regain HP, that they are only useable on an incapacitated character.

[RazorrX]

While I can feel for your pain as a new player (who I really do not think has played PnP D&D), There are many ways for any character to self heal. Yes it can be costly. Yes you will have to take personal responsibility for your character. Yes, you will have to learn to play smarter.

When/if DDO converts to 4.0 you will have the ability to self heal.

[Heladron]

I realize you new to the game and WELCOME it's a great game.

Trust me I didn't get my cleric to high level by soloing. He's a complete heal bot, but couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if you dropped it on him.

In my opinion there is way too much healing available in this game; and way under utilized by some players. My gosh, you can't go 10 feet in the newbie quests without healing pots being dumped on you. Then in the explosive situation the only thing in the chest are starter healing pots and repair and healing kits. They're practically throwing the potions in your pack at level one. In Bonebite hideout, every 10th breakable seems to have at least a cure pot.

If that's not enough for you then collect some documents (the two item collectibles) for Giles by the leaky dinghy and he'll give you a cure light wound wand. That wand is usable by about half the classes in the game without UMD and you can add in another couple if they put some points in UMD.

I believe for 60GP you can buy pots in the apothecary shop. Collecting 3 mushrooms and turning them into Arielle Kelle will get you either a Repair or Cure pot. She seems to be weighted maybe 60/40 towards cure minor pots, but I haven't actually done the math.

See what I mean, they practically rain healing supplies like mana from heaven in this game. There's almost no way to not get some kind of healing in this game.

Look around and do some questing. I'm sure you'll find the healing supplies you need. If the game is horribly flawed it's because they provide so much survivability it practically creates a false expectation that you should never be killed in the game.

[Strakeln]

Although I would point out that it is far easier on some classes rather than othersNo doubt.

[Fritz]

i think a lot of the posts in this thread are misguided by people who have been playing DDO so long that their perceptions have shifted to thinking the DDO world is the same as the worlds most of us played D&D pnp in.

its not, at all.


in PnP d&d that i played the world was vastly different:

clickies and potions were not bought from vendors, EVER, and you certainly did not spam them.
they were coveted prized possessions you only used in the absolute worst of situations because they were impossibly hard to get.
this one aspect of the game, at least to me, makes DDO sort of a joke.


resting wasnt an issue. if you wanted to rest, you could nearly anywhere you wanted to, you might take the risk of a patrolling group of monsters running into you while you rested, but you always had the option to rest and heal / recover spells.
the shrine resting system is just not D&D, and this aspect also makes DDO seem silly.


people having stats in 30+ range is just unheard of, everyone in DDO would be considered a god in D&D pnp, literally, people would worship you.



there are so many major differences between DDO and the D&D pnp that many of us played and loved, that DDO for the most part just seems like a hollow copy that was incorrectly implemented.


i like the game, obviously since im paying a monthly fee to play, but im just saying DDO is not D&D pnp, by any means.

the classes and monsters have the same names and basic abilities, and thats about it.

[TommyBoy]

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?


Potions? Candy Canes? UMD Wands? Clickies? Pally? Ranger? Bard? WF Wiz/Sorc? there are tons of non cleric ways to heal yourself.

also its not because they solo its because they're in demand. Clerics can hop on almost any time and get in a group.

[BlackSteel]

I'm able to solo quite well on my barb, I usually end up doing the 3 DQ prereq quests solo, then pop up a LFM while clearing the preraid, party members make it out there by the time the queen is ready. DR boosts help quite a bit, and I've ended up using 1/10th the amount of potions I used to after acquiring the consort bracers. If I expect to use more than 5 potions in a quest lower than me then I'll put up a LFM. I just soloed south threnal this morning for a brass beaver w/o using any, so soloing isnt out of the question at all in this game. The thing is, you shouldnt expect to solo same level content, not w/o a serious effort. (sure I know clerics who run coal chamber by themselves, or sorcs who can do sleeping dust, but its faster with even more clerics or more arcanes in party, coal chamber being the rare exception where more people=longer quest either due to extra spawns from stepping in the wrong spot or falling)

While leveling I'm sure you could do the same, but it would be a much longer and more tedious path than just hopping in a party. And while leveling all classes are in the same boat, it's just easier and faster to group.

[ShadesofGreen]

I think the OP has a valid point. Granted, we who have played longer and know the ins and outs of the game system can counter his/her arguements. However, we have to realize what impression new players have when they enter the game.

You can hit level 2 by the end of the Goodblade quests. How may new, and I mean really new, players are going to know to splash a level of <insert class> so that they can <insert skill>? Even before that, how many will know to take a feat at creation so that you can can take feats later on at higher levels?

I think its the truly new players like this poster that have brought the new tutorial changes of MOD 7. Honestly, I'd like to see a tutorial with a pregenerated character before we actually make a character. I know that I'm going to be fubar-ed when I tray to make a monk. ;)

[wamjratl1]

Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.

This one comment makes me think that the OP did not know about potions. But then, you have some in your backpack when you start a new character.... Kratier, do some looking around in game. Collect your collectables and find the poption vendor. If I managed to level as a complete newb with a rogue for a first character, anyone can!

Oh, and Welcome To The Game!!

[Kiranselie]

Although I would point out that it is far easier on some classes rather than others, *cough* *cough* anything > Rogue for soloing *cough* *cough*

(especially wizards, sorcerers, clerics and bards..):D

Come w/ me sometime, you just stand back in sneak, ill show you how to solo on a rogue :)

[Cupcake]

This is a Necro'd thread. I doubt the op is still around based on the tone of the post.

If he/she is still playing, then I would assume alot of the issues they had were resolved.

[Hvymetal]

Come w/ me sometime, you just stand back in sneak, ill show you how to solo on a rogue :)

I believe you:D Not saying it is not possible to solo on a Rogue (hell, I do sometimes) it is just much easier to solo on almost any other class, but we like challenges thats why we play Rogues !!!

[Ghoste]

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics
This alone makes me wonder if it's DDO you're actually talking about,or if you've accidentally wandered into these forums from another MMO.

[Mhykke]

This alone makes me wonder if it's DDO you're actually talking about,or if you've accidentally wandered into these forums from another MMO.


:D

[Hvymetal]

This alone makes me wonder if it's DDO you're actually talking about,or if you've accidentally wandered into these forums from another MMO.Agreed, since a majority of higher level Clerics go anon, that means there is a whole hell of a lot of Clerics out there ;)

[froggie899]

See what I mean, they practically rain healing supplies like mana from heaven in this game. There's almost no way to not get some kind of healing in this game.

Look around and do some questing. I'm sure you'll find the healing supplies you need. If the game is horribly flawed it's because they provide so much survivability it practically creates a false expectation that you should never be killed in the game.

Well I am sure that I am going to sound like an idiot, and that is ok I guess, but what good are the friggin starter healer kits when you don't know how to use them? I tried to click on one to heal myself... got nothing. And where do you find pots? I found potions and sand and pork rinds... none of which my Paladin can use. So if I have to make something with these starter kits, where do I find pots? And what else will I need, because there is not a list telling you that to make an item it requires specific components. Since I can't use spells or magic, as a Paladin, do I sell the kits and find some wands ya'll were talking about? I really wish that there were just a bit more information in the training area, which I assume Korthos is. At this rate I do not know if I will ever get out of it.

[Uska]

Umm fewer people are cleric at higher lvls anyone can buy potions and many can use wands or scrolls or have some other forum of healing, so as to healing its not flawed it's easier to get healed in ddo then most games and much more so then the game its based on.


second ddo is chiefly a grouping game with solo as an afterthought.

[Nevthial]

i think a lot of the posts in this thread are misguided by people who have been playing DDO so long that their perceptions have shifted to thinking the DDO world is the same as the worlds most of us played D&D pnp in.

its not, at all.


in PnP d&d that i played the world was vastly different:

clickies and potions were not bought from vendors, EVER, and you certainly did not spam them.
they were coveted prized possessions you only used in the absolute worst of situations because they were impossibly hard to get.
this one aspect of the game, at least to me, makes DDO sort of a joke.


resting wasnt an issue. if you wanted to rest, you could nearly anywhere you wanted to, you might take the risk of a patrolling group of monsters running into you while you rested, but you always had the option to rest and heal / recover spells.
the shrine resting system is just not D&D, and this aspect also makes DDO seem silly.


people having stats in 30+ range is just unheard of, everyone in DDO would be considered a god in D&D pnp, literally, people would worship you.



there are so many major differences between DDO and the D&D pnp that many of us played and loved, that DDO for the most part just seems like a hollow copy that was incorrectly implemented.


i like the game, obviously since im paying a monthly fee to play, but im just saying DDO is not D&D pnp, by any means.

the classes and monsters have the same names and basic abilities, and thats about it.

I'm with you on this. In the last PnP campaign our tiny group played, my Level 15 character had three magic weapons. None of which above +4, and literally only about 3 potions total. The bulk of his magic items he created, by using feats, xp , alot of time and a ton of gold. DDO is Monty Haul times 10.

[cdbd3rd]

Well I am sure that I am going to sound like an idiot, and that is ok I guess, but what good are the friggin starter healer kits when you don't know how to use them? I tried to click on one to heal myself... got nothing. And where do you find pots? I found potions and sand and pork rinds... none of which my Paladin can use. So if I have to make something with these starter kits, where do I find pots? And what else will I need, because there is not a list telling you that to make an item it requires specific components. Since I can't use spells or magic, as a Paladin, do I sell the kits and find some wands ya'll were talking about? I really wish that there were just a bit more information in the training area, which I assume Korthos is. At this rate I do not know if I will ever get out of it.


First off, step away from the worry of 'sounding like an idiot'. There's nothing wrong with being new, and seeing as you found this ancient thread, you know how to use the search function. ;)

Healing kits are used on other party members who have been incapacitated. (HPs of 0 to -9) To use them, you click the "heal" button on your hotbar when targetted on the unconcious person. You then get a roll against your heal skill and a successful roll brings the character back to 1 hp. (This all works the same with Warforged and Repair skill/kits.)

(pauses to wonder if anyone notices this is a one-year necro) ;)


Aside from the plentiful pots that will fall from breakables during your initial quests, the vendors in Korthos have starter pots for sale. (The general Vendor in town, and a dwarf vendor on the far side of Korthos Island.) For your first couple levels, those pots will keep you going. Wands will be sold at vendors once you get on into Stormreach.

[Thanimal]

Well I am sure that I am going to sound like an idiot, and that is ok I guess, but what good are the friggin starter healer kits when you don't know how to use them? I tried to click on one to heal myself... got nothing. And where do you find pots? I found potions and sand and pork rinds... none of which my Paladin can use. So if I have to make something with these starter kits, where do I find pots? And what else will I need, because there is not a list telling you that to make an item it requires specific components. Since I can't use spells or magic, as a Paladin, do I sell the kits and find some wands ya'll were talking about? I really wish that there were just a bit more information in the training area, which I assume Korthos is. At this rate I do not know if I will ever get out of it.

Documentation and new player education inside the game are horrible. But since you've found the forums, you might have some hope!

Still, the best bet is to join people and let them know you are new and ask questions. (You *might* get dropped from a group or two that is trying to sprint-level, but it's well worth that risk for what you'll learn AND you're almost certain to get gifts of free stuff, too!)

Roughly speaking, healing kits are completely useless*. You need potions, which are dropped in some Korthos quests and available from many vendors (though maybe the first one who sells them is not on Korthos?). All character claases can drink Cure potions, and Paladins can also use Cure wands, which are FAR cheaper per charge, but I don't think those are available until you can access The Markeplace (by completing the first two parts of Waterworks -- groups run this all the time: TELL THEM YOU ARE NEW). And you can also heal up quickly in taverns between quests by buying and eating food (which is cheaper still).

*What a healing kit actually does is enable you bring up somebody else who is between 0 and -9 hit points (inclusive). In practice, there is nearly always a better way to do this that is also useful for some other common situation. Wands, potions, and spells of cure (or repair for Warforged) are the main ones. I actually destroy healing and repair kits instantly upon getting them -- I don't want them clogging up valuable inventory slots.

[wamjratl1]

1) This thread was necroed for the first time exactly one year ago today! Happy Undead Birthday Thread!

2) Please Mr. new player I am so glad you joined this game and it is a great game and hopefully you will like it and stick around but if you can't figure out how to use freaking potion in under 30 seconds then please read the tips that are popping up on your screen during you Korthos experience. Take 15, 20, 30 minutes to experiment with the UI before you start jumping around, hollering about healing kits. Mouse over the stuff in your backpack to learn little about it. And no if you are a paladin you will not be able to use spell components for another class (again, when you mouse over a spell component it tells you who what class can use it) but you can sell them. Loot is random. Normally I am more supportive of new players but ****... maybe I'm just in a mood.

[Tomas_Laren]

I wonder if he will ever come back to check this thread?

[FreudoBaggins]

First off:

Best single source of information: http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/Browse_portal -- learn it, live it, love it!
Second best source: fellow players, in game and on the forums.
Also the DDO Compendium can be helpful.


... And where do you find pots? I found potions and sand and pork rinds... none of which my Paladin can use.

There's a lot of stuff you will find that is only good for selling, mostly b/c it's not for your class or it's not something you useful. Expect to sell off maybe 80-90% of your loot.

Starter cure light pots are available in some Korthos quests, and there is a vendor in the market square in Korthos who sells cure light pots. Other pots you can loot but not use until level 2 or 3.

In the Korthos explorer, there are several blue rest shrines, and they reset after 15 minutes, or if you have been in a quest or out of the area for more than five minutes.

So if I have to make something with these starter kits, where do I find pots? And what else will I need, because there is not a list telling you that to make an item it requires specific components.

There is no crafting of pots or wands or stuff like that yet, only certain high-level weapons and items in the Vale quests and the Reaver's Refuge. (There are collectables which can be turned in for pots and scrolls once you get out of Korthos.)

Since I can't use spells or magic, as a Paladin, do I sell the kits and find some wands ya'll were talking about?

You can buy pots and wands freely once you leave Korthos; until then you have to rely on starter pots, shrines, and clerics or bards. As a Paladin, you will start to get spells at level 4, same as Ranger (but you can use cure light wands at level 1, and cure mod wands at level 3).

Also, as a Paladin, you get Lay on Hands as an enhancement, to use on yourself or a party member.

I really wish that there were just a bit more information in the training area, which I assume Korthos is. Wiki / other players / Compendium (manual if you bought the disc)

At this rate I do not know if I will ever get out of it.

You'll make it just fine! Let people know you're new, and they will be willing to help. Group with a total stranger or two!

Even the most uber, leet player started where you are right now. They're not better or smarter, they've just been here longer!

And ... all you need to do to be able to leave Korthos and get to Stormreach Harbor is to do the Collaborater in the tavern, the Lars Heyton quest (Redemption?) in the explorer area (come back and get your end reward) and Misery's Peak in the explorer area, once (and talk to the ship captain and the first mate.)

You can come back to do all the other stuff any time you want.

(Edit: wow, 6 replies to Froggie in the time it took me to write this ... it's harder to avoid advice than it is to get it in this game!)

[wamjratl1]

I wonder if he will ever come back to check this thread?

Probably not lol but a newer new person jumped in with DOOOM OMG HEAL KITS DON"T WORK AND MY PALLY IS STARVING FOR PORK RINDS BUT CAN'T EAT THEM!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!!1!!!1!

[VKhaun]

...do not force grouping...

Your whole concept rests on this and it is flawed deeply. DnD has never and will never be a solo game on PnP, MMO, or MUD. The game concept from day one is to require grouping for the majority of content.

[cdbd3rd]

Normally I am more supportive of new players but ****... maybe I'm just in a mood.

Bloody hell, I'd say so.


..and noticing your follow-up, what the f are you trying to do, keep the game all to your self?? If ya don't want to help a new player, fine, but how about NOT trying to run em off? :mad:

[wamjratl1]

Bloody hell, I'd say so.

:o My bad.

Mr. New Player, ignore me. But just experiment a little and you'll get the hang of it in a day or so. Explore the town areas beofre you start questing, that should help a little. Enjoy your pork rinds.

OK now ignore me for real.

[wamjratl1]

Bloody hell, I'd say so.


..and noticing your follow-up, what the f are you trying to do, keep the game all to your self?? If ya don't want to help a new player, fine, but how about NOT trying to run em off? :mad:

lol again, my bad:o. Please re-visit the whole thread and see how kind I was to the original poster, pre-necro. I suppose in the past year I have grown rather curmudgeonly.

[cdbd3rd]

:o My bad.

Mr. New Player, ignore me. But just experiment a little and you'll get the hang of it in a day or so. Explore the town areas beofre you start questing, that should help a little. Enjoy your pork rinds.

OK now ignore me for real.


Thnx, Wam. The guy's already frustrated with what we already know is limited newb intel. And I remember my own confusion - especially with those damned healing kits.

[Lerincho]

Thnx, Wam. The guy's already frustrated with what we already know is limited newb intel. And I remember my own confusion - especially with those damned healing kits.

so like yesterday? :D

[froggie899]

Yes, I came back. I do not post questions and then wander off into lala land never to return. If i did not want help, I wouldn't ask. And maybe I am in a mood too, but as a new player, I do not need or want the sarcasam, maybe once I am jaded and figure I know everything, then I will appreciate it more. I finally figured out, in a non-blonde moment, that you do not means "pots" literally, you mean potions, which now actually clears up a bit of my confusion.
I did mouse over the information, and did not jump up and down hollering, did you see any caps? I asked a simple question, because I am not used to D&D, I play other MMORPGs, like CoH & Star Wars. In both of those games you have the ability to make items, and it gives more detail so I was confused.

To everyone else, thank you for the information, I am reading it all and hope to apply it. cdbd3rd thank you for ALL of your support. I appreciate it. You know how to make a gal feel welcome. Hopefully, I will see you around if I need more help, for now this n00b will go suffer along trying to eat her pork rinds, and look for a pot. :)

[Lerincho]

HACKER!! Pork Rines aren't in game. cheater!!


oops you meant something else. my bad.

umm.... good luck!

[Talish]

Glad you stuck around Froggie899. May I ask what world you are playing on?

Argo, Khyber and Thelanis have user monitored help channels in place. To use them type

/joinchannel help

then preface your message with /1 example: /1 Who is Fred?

This channel can be used by trail accounts as well.

Please let me know what world you are on as it's always a pelasure to meet a fellow Gamer gal. :D

Welcome to DDO

[Talish]

btw Porkrinds etc are components needed by certain classes to cast spells. Some spells are verbal other require a material component to cast. The description of the item should state which class needs them.

[Lerincho]

it's a trap, run away!

[Lerincho]

btw Porkrinds etc are components needed by certain classes to cast spells. Some spells are verbal other require a material component to cast. The description of the item should state which class needs them.

yeah well she said eating them. so if she is eating spell components, then she has to be hacking.........

okay so i'm bored at work.... shoot me.

[Talish]

yeah well she said eating them. so if she is eating spell components, then she has to be hacking.........

okay so i'm bored at work.... shoot me.

hehehe. I'd love to!!! Bows at 50 paces ;)

[cdbd3rd]

so like yesterday? :D

Nope. Yesterday was reserved for playing with my Candy Cane. :p

[Lerincho]

:eek:
Nope. Yesterday was reserved for playing with my Candy Cane. :p
:eek:
tmi

[froggie899]

OK the eating pork rinds was a joke, hacking? LOL If I knew how to hack, I'd know how to play the game a bit better, I think. I have a human Paladin on Sarlona, my luck to pick the world w/out the help channel. But thanks again for the advice.

[Lerincho]

OK the eating pork rinds was a joke, hacking? LOL If I knew how to hack, I'd know how to play the game a bit better.

oh well at least you learned pork rinds are spell componets and not to be eaten. :D

[Talish]

OK the eating pork rinds was a joke, hacking? LOL If I knew how to hack, I'd know how to play the game a bit better, I think. I have a human Paladin on Sarlona, my luck to pick the world w/out the help channel. But thanks again for the advice.

You can try the help channel on Sarlona. I'm not sure if anyone will be in there at the moment but I know I watch it when I play there.

Please add Mythe to your friends list.

Let me know when you will be online this evening and I will head over to Sarlona to answer any questions you may have and give you a starting gift to help you out.

Oh and please post your character name or send me a private message with it.

Mythe

[cdbd3rd]

To everyone else, thank you for the information, I am reading it all and hope to apply it. cdbd3rd thank you for ALL of your support. I appreciate it. You know how to make a gal feel welcome. Hopefully, I will see you around if I need more help, for now this n00b will go suffer along trying to eat her pork rinds, and look for a pot. :)



/Goes all nerdy....

Whoa...:eek: You're a GIRL??!??


*grin*

[cdbd3rd]

OK the eating pork rinds was a joke, hacking? LOL If I knew how to hack, I'd know how to play the game a bit better, I think. I have a human Paladin on Sarlona, my luck to pick the world w/out the help channel. But thanks again for the advice.


Jump servers.
Thelanis is nice this time of year. ;)

[wamjratl1]

Yes, I came back. I do not post questions and then wander off into lala land never to return. If i did not want help, I wouldn't ask. And maybe I am in a mood too, but as a new player, I do not need or want the sarcasam, maybe once I am jaded and figure I know everything, then I will appreciate it more. I finally figured out, in a non-blonde moment, that you do not means "pots" literally, you mean potions, which now actually clears up a bit of my confusion.
I did mouse over the information, and did not jump up and down hollering, did you see any caps? I asked a simple question, because I am not used to D&D, I play other MMORPGs, like CoH & Star Wars. In both of those games you have the ability to make items, and it gives more detail so I was confused.

To everyone else, thank you for the information, I am reading it all and hope to apply it. cdbd3rd thank you for ALL of your support. I appreciate it. You know how to make a gal feel welcome. Hopefully, I will see you around if I need more help, for now this n00b will go suffer along trying to eat her pork rinds, and look for a pot. :)

And here I was calling you Mr. New Person... once again, my bad :o

So Ms. New Person, You have not been playing long enough to be a n00b. You are still a newb, whereas a n00b is someone like me who has been playing for over 2 years and leads a reaver raid and doesn't give any thought to who's doing the puzzle and well... you'll understand all of that in a few months (or weeks, depending on how often you play).

If you are in a mood, I may be partly responsible for putting you there. I am often under the false impression that everyone appreciates sarcasm...Sorry:o

So anywho? have you figured out how to hotbar stuff in your inventory for quick access? any other questions? actually if you do a few forum searches there are some great guides available for new people. They're Here (http://forums.ddo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104&order=desc). The Guide for New Adventures is outdated. I think there is a new one for Korthos but I can't find it.

If ur on Ghallanda, look me up. I won't bite.

[froggie899]

Yes, I am a female. I am playing this because I recently joid a PnP D&D game, after years of Stars Wars PnP, and wanted to get into the D&D vibe.
Mythe, I plan on getting back in about 6pm CST, and I am Kamie Brandywine, Paladin. Think I just got to lvl 2. I do appreciate all the advice.
I have figured out how to hotbar items, not that difficult to figure, kind of like Fable. I was just a bit overwhelemed, and perhaps took your sarcasm a bit personally so, my bad there.

[Talish]

Yes, I am a female. I am playing this because I recently joid a PnP D&D game, after years of Stars Wars PnP, and wanted to get into the D&D vibe.
Mythe, I plan on getting back in about 6pm CST, and I am Kamie Brandywine, Paladin. Think I just got to lvl 2. I do appreciate all the advice.

Ok I'm EST so you are about an hour behind me correct? I'll set aside an hour to answer any questions you may have. I will also start a new character on Korthos to teach you a few things if you like.

Oh and don't worry too much about the men in this game. They horse around a little and have fun but in my experience as a female gamer in DDO they have great respect women in this game. There are very very very few players that will give you any grief because of your gender.

Looking forward to meeting you.

[cdbd3rd]

Oh and don't worry too much about the men in this game. They horse around a little and have fun but in my experience as a female gamer in DDO they have great respect women in this game. There are very very very few players that will give you any grief because of your gender.

Aye.

[FreudoBaggins]

... I am playing this because I recently joid a PnP D&D game, after years of Stars Wars PnP, and wanted to get into the D&D vibe.

If you haven't noticed yet, you will soon see that there are some areas where DDO is (significantly?) different from D&D, but I think it is the one computer game which best approximates D&D PnP play.

I was just a bit overwhelemed, and perhaps took your sarcasm a bit personally so, my bad there.

No worries: underneath, even most of the prickly characters here are not too bad in-game!

You can make up to ten (10!) characters on each server, so you can check each one out, shop around ... experiment with classes and builds. You probly know more than enough to skip the pre-planned character paths from the get-go





Besides the guides mentioned, be sure to check the DDO wiki for more info: http://ddo.enterwiki.net/page/Browse_portal

good luck!

[moorewr]

Yes, I am a female. I am playing this because I recently joid a PnP D&D game, after years of Stars Wars PnP, and wanted to get into the D&D vibe.
Mythe, I plan on getting back in about 6pm CST, and I am Kamie Brandywine, Paladin. Think I just got to lvl 2. I do appreciate all the advice.
I have figured out how to hotbar items, not that difficult to figure, kind of like Fable. I was just a bit overwhelemed, and perhaps took your sarcasm a bit personally so, my bad there.

Welcome and good luck, no matter what server you end up on.

There is a lot going on and poor documentation, to be sure. Glad you are persevering.

Took me the longest time to sort out wands and scrolls when I started. The next big update to the game (Mod 9, "coming soon") will help some, because you'll be able to "fire" wands and scrolls at targets like regular weapons.

[birminghampiper]

First welcome, hope you stay. I can tell by your post PnP D&D was not your game.
Grouping is at the core of D&D that being said turbine has made soloing by any
class friendly with hirelings. If you are not playing a class that can self heal. I
suggest picking up a cleric hireling and have fun learning the quest.
To address your assumption that 90% of higher levels are clerics. Your math is
flawed. Clerics are a high demand class as their healing power for the group in most
quest is highly desired. Not to say that most quest including raids can be done without
clerics. Clerics simply bring the easy button. They however are not 90% of the higher
level characters. In fact they are in disproportion to other classes.
In any event I hope you continue to play and enjoy the game. Don't be afraid to join
LFM's and learn to play in a group setting. your experience will be much more rewarding

One simple aspect, healing .


I am a newb to this game, but I've been playing D&D games since text based MUDs and i have to say one reason this game is flawed is the aspect of healing.

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?

Thats silly, and stupid. Make it easier for the player to solo, do not force grouping, and allow healing kits to regen HP. Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.

[Thanimal]

OK the eating pork rinds was a joke, hacking? LOL If I knew how to hack, I'd know how to play the game a bit better, I think.

Best to assume 90% of all forums posts are an attempt at humor. The hacking "accusation" definitely was -- I'd bet my account on it.


I have a human Paladin on Sarlona, my luck to pick the world w/out the help channel. But thanks again for the advice.

I occasionally play on Sarlona with my daughter, who I feel is too young to be in my guild on Thelanis. I suggest adding Greeno to your friends list and if you happen to catch me I'm more than happy to answer questions.

EDIT: Also if you create a new character on Thelanis I'd be more than happy to run something with you. I always have lowbies (low level characters) because I'm a chronic experimenter. A half hour of talking and asking questions is worth 10 pages of forum rambling!

It frustrated the hell out of me how poorly documented this game was (and is), especially considering how complex it is. But let me assure you it's a GREAT game, and worth the pain of overcoming the information vaccuum. Just never stop asking questions. Almost 3 years in, I haven't and don't plan to.

It's also a great idea to look for a guild. That, too, can be a little frustrating, but if you find a guild that is a good match it can hugely improve your experience.

[Lerincho]

Ok I'm EST so you are about an hour behind me correct? I'll set aside an hour to answer any questions you may have. I will also start a new character on Korthos to teach you a few things if you like.

Oh and don't worry too much about the men in this game. They horse around a little and have fun but in my experience as a female gamer in DDO they have great respect women in this game. There are very very very few players that will give you any grief because of your gender.

Looking forward to meeting you.


watch out for that CBD, he's..... "different". that is all that I am at liberty to say about him.

[shores11]

One simple aspect, healing .


I am a newb to this game, but I've been playing D&D games since text based MUDs and i have to say one reason this game is flawed is the aspect of healing.

I see 90% of the higher levels are clerics, for one reason, they can heal themselves and keep soloing. I want to be able to play solo as a class, but I cannot because i have NO way of regaining my HP ?

Thats silly, and stupid. Make it easier for the player to solo, do not force grouping, and allow healing kits to regen HP. Make healing kits more viable for solo play, do not force players to choose certain classes by limiting their options.

Your a long time D&D player and do not understand that D&D is a group based/ party based game? Hmmmm, confusion sets in, me thinks thou art not being honest...

[Talish]

watch out for that CBD, he's..... "different". that is all that I am at liberty to say about him.

lol you could have warned me before I met him last night :P

[froggie899]

cdbd & Mythe, BIG THANKS to you both for logging on and helping me figure some things out. I had fun running with you, there are many cool aspects to this I know I will enjoy. I am just so happy to be out of Korthos.

Greeno, I will add you to my friends.
THANKS!!!