Cloths not robes

[RazorrX]

I know that wizards are known for wearing robes. Gotcha. Got to have Robes. No problem.

BUT . . .

Rogues and Rangers wearing robes is just not right. How do you run through the jungle when you have to keep pulling your dress up? How are you expected to scale that building, jump past all the traps, tumble past the whirling blades in long, flowing robes? Monks are coming, and I fear will have to wear robes.

That just is not right. In the Eberron books monks wear light cloth cloths, very much like a martial arts uniform. The picture of a monk in the PHB does not show them wearing a robe. (( For that matter the iconic picture of a sorcerer does not show a robe)).

Most martial arts use a combination of pant and shirt/coat. Did Caine in Kung Fu wear a dress? No! Did Bruce Lee wear a dress? No! Kato was not a drag queen!

The thing is, in LOTRO you have normal cloth clothes that look good. Can we get some Non Robe cloth armor? Please?

Even variations on the padded would be nice for plain clothing. Heck use padded or leather and take away the armor bonus for them, simple fix.

I am sure this has been brought up before, I looked and no post recently dealt with it so did not want to necro an old thread. Mod 7 is due out in May. Is there a chance to get at least some non robes clothing by then?

[Cruzer]

/signed times infinity.

I just staretd playing a melee'er with enough dex to have to wear robes, and i hate it. Some of the padded armor skins would be nice, or any type of generic clothy-looking garb would be fine.

[StringTheory]

/signed

[GuitarHero]

aye, i've got my warchanter in a mithril chain shirt. I know full well my 23 AC isn't going to stop an angry gnat, but i just don't want to wear a robe! Can a brother get a witness up in here?

[Dane_McArdy]

I agree. THere are plenty of investments and clothing options in the Magic Item Compendium, which DDO has used, that have effects on them, without providing armor, that are not robes. Some of these would be cool addition to the game.

[Rameses]

actually LotRo has Clothing "Skins" implimented.
You still wear your normal armor but choose to have your character look like he/she is wearing cloths..

but otherwise

/signed!

[unionyes]

I would like the option, although anyone who is against robes on principle has never worn one in RL. Have travelled some, and been to some places in Africa and Asia where the wearing of robes at home, and for traditionalists in public, is common. Pakistan has a traditional clothing that men wear that is like a loose robe with gi pants on underneath, very comfortable. Also in Nepal a thicker robe is worn a lot by the dudes. Have worn both, and found them to be exceptionally comfortable. I even have a Pakistani robe at home that I wear around the house on weekends, it is easily the most comfortable thing I own.

Alternately, could make the robes a whole lot shorter and add another item slot for thongs........... ;)

[Cruzer]

I'm not saying take robes out in general.

You can get a suit of plate mail and half plate that look like dresses - why not have some robe skins look like clothes?

[RazorrX]

I never said to take robes out completely. I agree that the iconic mage wears robes. What I am asking for is Non-Robe alternatives for those who do not wear armor (IE high dex characters and monks).

LOTRO has clothing (yes it also has an option to display clothing when you are wearing armor, but it still has clothing). My Burgler started out in clothing, so did my Loremaster, etc. Not armor, not padded, clothing.

I understand that in many parts of the world people wear robes. Not disagreeing with that, just saying that *I* do not want to. ;)

I am sure that others share this desire to not wear robes. So please Turbine . . . lets have some non robe clothing lines in Stormreach.

[Kargon]

It take a REAL man to fight in a dress, especiamally a PINK dress!

[TommyBoy]

Monks are coming, and I fear will have to wear robes.



monks wear robes. yes even the asian ones.

http://ramblingspoon.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/SweepingMonk.jpg

[nbhs275]

god i would settle for pant suits.

signed

Give my bard a leisure suit!

[The_Cataclysm]

I agree. We need clothing.

[RazorrX]

Ummmm okay but how do you know that he does kung fu?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=481kjcgP7mg

here is the shaolin troupe perfoming. Also on a visit to one of the Temples in China, nowhere did we see any of the kung fu monks wearing that.

I believe the monks in D&D are warrior monks.

[Vandos]

/signed

I was going to start a post on this because of the release notes. In the latest release notes (or dev diaries) there is mention of adding some more chain shirt graphics. We dont need more armor skins, we need plain clothes, rogues tunics with the dagger sheaths, lockpicks, ropes and grapple you get on leather armor, rangers runics etc, etc.

[Snoggy]

I know that wizards are known for wearing robes. Gotcha. Got to have Robes. No problem.

BUT . . .

Rogues and Rangers wearing robes is just not right. How do you run through the jungle when you have to keep pulling your dress up? How are you expected to scale that building, jump past all the traps, tumble past the whirling blades in long, flowing robes? Monks are coming, and I fear will have to wear robes.

That just is not right. In the Eberron books monks wear light cloth cloths, very much like a martial arts uniform. The picture of a monk in the PHB does not show them wearing a robe. (( For that matter the iconic picture of a sorcerer does not show a robe)).

Most martial arts use a combination of pant and shirt/coat. Did Caine in Kung Fu wear a dress? No! Did Bruce Lee wear a dress? No! Kato was not a drag queen!

The thing is, in LOTRO you have normal cloth clothes that look good. Can we get some Non Robe cloth armor? Please?

Even variations on the padded would be nice for plain clothing. Heck use padded or leather and take away the armor bonus for them, simple fix.

I am sure this has been brought up before, I looked and no post recently dealt with it so did not want to necro an old thread. Mod 7 is due out in May. Is there a chance to get at least some non robes clothing by then?



Yes, regular old clothes should exist. Especially for rogues and rangers and the like. The whole "swashbuckler" motiff would really add a bit of flavor to the game.

But ... keep in mind ... a LOT of martial arts monks did indeed wear robes. Both in D&D lore and in really cheesy kung-fu movies.

[geoffhanna]

I don't even know how many times.

Maybe one more will do the trick :D hey - if we can have armor that looks like a robe (KDS), we ought to be able to have robes that look like armor.

/signed

[penumbra]

/signed times infinity.

I just staretd playing a melee'er with enough dex to have to wear robes, and i hate it. Some of the padded armor skins would be nice, or any type of generic clothy-looking garb would be fine.

also thank you, RazorrX, i just spent about 30 min on youtube watching kung fu videos... :)

[cryptic]

/signed

[GuitarHero]

It take a REAL man to fight in a dress, especiamally a PINK dress!

and it takes a bigger REAL man to laugh at that man....

[RazorrX]

also thank you, RazorrX, i just spent about 30 min on youtube watching kung fu videos... :)


*grin* anytime. I grew up watching Kung Fu Theater. Saw the Shaolin Troupe perform live, was pretty cool.

[Skye]

/signed

[Film]

Thank you, Thank you, Thank you! My casters enjoy the freedom of movement of casting in free flowing robes. My ranger hates it when one of the baddies die and fall on his dress and he has to roll them off to fight, and my rogue hates it when his dress gets caught in a spinning blade trap. Ugly turn out on that one!

[Pfamily]

and it takes a bigger REAL man to laugh at that man....

Especially if he's wearing makeup...
:p

BTW:
/signed

[GuitarHero]

Especially if he's wearing makeup...
:p

BTW:
/signed

Well, one of these days your mom will properly secure her rouge! :D

[Nefahrin]

It take a REAL man to fight in a dress, especiamally a PINK dress!


Who took over Kargon's account?
I could actually Read and UNDERSTAND that post LMAO

[TommyBoy]

Ummmm okay but how do you know that he does kung fu?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=481kjcgP7mg

here is the shaolin troupe perfoming. Also on a visit to one of the Temples in China, nowhere did we see any of the kung fu monks wearing that.

I believe the monks in D&D are warrior monks.





About the same way you know the video is of an actuall monk. I dont. I took the fact that he is dressed like one and sweeping in what looks like a temple. I could leave my office and go out to the cube farm and ask my thai friend what they the buddist monks at his temple wear. There not sho lin, but close since thailand borders china. though all the pictures he's shown me of monks in thailand are dressed similar to the picture. oh and hten are the ones who tie the robe around there legs when fighting which is probibly what the guy in blue did. that or else he like to look like the ultamate warrior

[RazorrX]

Well there are Buddhist monks who never do kung fu, never fight and some even go so far as to wear bells on their clothing to warn bugs to get out of the way , and wear veils to prevent from accidentally inhaling bugs.

In D&D the Monk is a Martial Monk. Trained to fight. The core rules shows a monk wearing a fighting outfit close to what I have seen other martial artists wear. Eberron, from what I have read and seen does not differ from that. (In fact I read the main character in the Orb of Xoriat to be dressed just that way) It very well could be that the head abbot would wear more 'robe' like outer wear (with the fighting clothing underneath), but the main warriors would wear a 'gi' of some sort.

Yes I agree with you that the man in your picture is a monk. There are lots of monks, of different types. My point was and still is, in DDO we will be Warrior Monks. They do not traditionally wear Robes.

Just look at Master Killer. Awesome movie, and quite cool about showing the training of a warrior monk. Even when he graduated, he wore the fighting clothing with an outer robe - slit down the sides so that he cold fight.

There should be normal clothing in the game. Pants, shirts, boots, shoes, etc. Many builds can get dex high enough to end up giving up armor. There should be non robe alternatives for those characters.

But hey, 4.0 is currently being demonstrated by Wizards at D&D Experience, who knows, maybe they made all classes wear robes now.

[Rouge]

I've got a better idea......

Right now we can toggle per character weather they show their Dragonmark on them, why not have a Robe/Clothes toggle? would just need to make a clothes looking skin for each random part of robe armor that the game can generate. Not sure if that is the best idea or not, but it would eliminate the need to make separate items......

Wonder if there can just be a toggle for worn armor, you can choose look #1 or look #2 and for robes, look #2 would be more clothing like.

[Darkwolf1071]

/signed.

[Angelus_dead]

Wonder if there can just be a toggle for worn armor, you can choose look #1 or look #2 and for robes, look #2 would be more clothing like.
That toggle idea was suggested over a year ago, when Monks as a firm promise was first announced. So if they liked the idea, they've had time to work on it by now...

[suitepotato]

Go watch Seven Samurai. See how the men pull their outfits into place for fighting and then switch back. Blousy clothes are not necessarily out of place for fighting in. It's how you wear them.

[nbhs275]

Go watch Seven Samurai. See how the men pull their outfits into place for fighting and then switch back. Blousy clothes are not necessarily out of place for fighting in. It's how you wear them.

Not only can the cloth actually work to dampen blows, but can also conceal weapons, whether it be a dagger in a robe fold, or a weighted sleeve. Robes are very much a warriors garment in many asian cultures.


Still, my monk wont be asian, more of a beer drinking english monk. Get me some slacks!

[Aesop]

pretty please with ice cream with cherries on top

Aesop

[GuitarHero]

Still, my monk wont be asian, more of a beer drinking english monk. Get me some slacks!

aren't those just called soccer (football) players?

[Joven]

Please oh please my rogue takes a ac loss cause I refuse to let him wear robes. also can we get options for our undergarments I am sick of haven dirty brown undies.

[Jopin]

OK, it's drunk and I'm late :confused:, but my first impression when I saw this thread was of someone complaining about his or her armor looking like washcloths. Cloths and clothes aren't quite the same thing. OK, flame me as a language Nazi, but the whole purpose of language is to communicate, right?

[Therbjorn]

Hey! Don't leave the wizards and sorcerers out! I am a little tired of the robes. They are all beginning to look the same to me and I think it would look cool for my wizzy to be casting while wearing normal clothes. Don't get me wrong, I love the robes, but I do have to agree.

[Hvymetal]

It's from WoW but it expresses my view on the subject.....http://youtube.com/watch?v=vqO7zEWu0W0

[ptwishus]

/signed

yes, please. at the risk of sounding lame, i make art a lot, and so aesthetics are a big concern for me when making a character to play. i really wish there were more options in terms of clothing, yes, but as long as i'm asking for that, i'd love to have more options to control how my toons look in general - maybe choose skins, colors, etc. at least maybe have previews when buying new threads?

i mean, this is from the guy who put +5 mfp back on the AH because i didn't like the skin and color, and didn't wear helmets till they came up with /showhelmet. heheh, maybe i should just suffer for being so lame... :)

meanwhile, my rogue will just have to live with the fact that she's losing like 4 pts. to her ac because she just refuses to wear robes.. :o