HOLY BATMAN BUILDS...Batman...

[Theizeman]

Hi I need help witha batman build that uses TWF and maxes Disable device as well as UMD and search I have drow available to me but no other 32 point builds please help me :(

[Gennerik]

Honestly, I prefer a halfling for this type of build, but since that's not available to you, I'll try something else. Are there any other requirements that you have outside of Two-Weapon Fighting and maxing those three skills?

[sigtrent]

The original batman build is an intimidate tank and thus wouldn't use Two Weapon Fighting. It also had rogue skills.

Class wise they are usualy rogue 2 paladin 2(3) and the rest fighter. While they could do traps it was mroe of a side line talent than the main gig.

But that leaves you wanting a TWF rogue. There are lots of those builds out there. Is there something more you want out of it? High AC, high saves?

[Anthom]

I've started a Paladin/Rogue based upon one of Dworkin's Paladin Templates located in his older Basic Paladin Build Guide v1.2.
Thread Link: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=126603

Now, this isn't a TWF and it doesn't maximize UMD but I thought it might help.

Scroll down to: Basic Human Evasion Paladin w/ Rogue Skills
I went Drow as I'm returning to the game after being away and never achieved 1750 favor. He recommended 16/10/12/17/8/14(w/+1 Int Tome before level 2) but I used 14/10/12/18/10/14 as I've never found a Tome. (note: I used the Djinn cake to increase Str, not a Tome)

I'm focusing on using shortswords/rapiers and running with a shield.

I'm gettling close to 4 and have been having a lot of fun and doing well solo & duo's on hard and some elites. I haven't fully tweaked my build plan yet and will be testing some things but here is what I have planned up to level 16(EDIT: updated to 16 but I will be tweaking it so I can get Saves 3 and will likely change enhancements - also, may take more fighter levels past Paladin 11):


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Valhaust DenGalen
Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Male
(1 Fighter \ 13 Paladin \ 2 Rogue)
Hit Points: 256
Spell Points: 130
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 14
Will: 10

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 14 19
Dexterity 10 12
Constitution 12 12
Intelligence 18 18
Wisdom 10 10
Charisma 14 17

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 2

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 4 5
Bluff 2 3
Concentration 1 1
Diplomacy 2 3
Disable Device 8 29
Haggle 6 7
Heal 2 2
Hide 3 4
Intimidate 6 7
Jump 6 8
Listen 0 2
Move Silently 0 1
Open Lock 4 18
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 4 4
Search 8 25
Spot 4 6
Swim 6 8
Tumble 1 2
Use Magic Device 6 23

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Nimble Fingers
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I

Level 2 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Follower of Vulkoor

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Disable Device
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I

Level 4 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I

Level 5 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I

Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device

Level 7 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II

Level 8 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II

Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II

Level 10 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Vulkoor's Avatar

Level 11 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma III

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II

Level 13 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III

Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV

Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III

Level 16 (Paladin)

[boldarblood]

Hi I need help witha batman build that uses TWF and maxes Disable device as well as UMD and search I have drow available to me but no other 32 point builds please help me :(

To be honest, if you have Drow open and your looking for the ability to have 2wf and rogue skills. Perhaps look into some type of Drow Rogue/Ranger build (1 rogue / 15 ranger). Gives you 2wf skills for free, with right stats can keep your disarm,open lock, search, spot and umd all maxed. Plus then the added bonus of having the ranger spells (barksking, resists, freedom of movement, etc).

[Aesop]

Honestly not my favorit version but here's one


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Bell
Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Female
(3 Paladin \ 1 Rogue \ 12 Ranger)
Hit Points: 168
Spell Points: 155
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 20
Will: 9

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 16 22
Dexterity 15 20
Constitution 11 12
Intelligence 15 16
Wisdom 9 10
Charisma 12 14

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 6 9
Bluff 1 2
Concentration 0 1
Diplomacy 5 17
Disable Device 7 23
Haggle 1 2
Heal -1 0
Hide 4 7
Intimidate 1 2
Jump 7 10
Listen -1 2
Move Silently 6 9
Open Lock 6 16
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 3
Search 7 31
Spot 3 20
Swim 3 6
Tumble 4 7
Use Magic Device 5 24

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge

Level 2 (Paladin)

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack

Level 7 (Ranger)

Level 8 (Ranger)

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 10 (Ranger)

Level 11 (Ranger)

Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device

Level 13 (Ranger)

Level 14 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider

Level 15 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Search

Level 16 (Ranger)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Ranger Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Perception II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage I
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Damage III
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Ranger Search I
Enhancement: Ranger Search II
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild I
Enhancement: Ranger Energy of the Wild II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity III




I think I perfer this one a little more... it gets Improved Evasion


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Sabein
Level 16 True Neutral Drow Female
(10 Rogue \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 128
Spell Points: 25
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 8
Reflex: 18
Will: 5

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 14 20
Dexterity 17 22
Constitution 11 11
Intelligence 15 16
Wisdom 11 11
Charisma 11 11

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 7 16
Bluff 4 19
Concentration 0 0
Diplomacy 4 19
Disable Device 7 26
Haggle 2 17
Heal 0 0
Hide 3 6
Intimidate 0 0
Jump 6 15
Listen 0 2
Move Silently 3 6
Open Lock 7 29
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 5
Search 7 30
Spot 4 23
Swim 2 5
Tumble 5 8
Use Magic Device 4 19

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge

Level 2 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility

Level 4 (Ranger)

Level 5 (Rogue)

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack

Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider

Level 8 (Ranger)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 10 (Rogue)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Rogue)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting

Level 16 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Attack II
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Drow Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Perception II
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Way of the Mechanic I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Search II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I

[Wildseed]

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Level 16 Lawful Good Drow Female
(2 Fighter \ 3 Paladin \ 11 Rogue)
Hit Points: 186
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 13\13\18\23
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 19
Will: 8

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Stats Modified Stats
Abilities (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 9 12
Dexterity 16 26
Constitution 13 14
Intelligence 17 18
Wisdom 11 12
Charisma 12 12

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 8
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 7 18
Bluff 1 1
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 1 1
Disable Device 8 26
Haggle 5 20
Heal 1 1
Hide 3 8
Intimidate 5 15
Jump 4 16
Listen 1 3
Move Silently 3 8
Open Lock 7 29
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 4 4
Search 8 31
Spot 5 27
Swim 4 20
Tumble 7 15
Use Magic Device 5 20

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 2 (Paladin)

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Dodge

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Finesse

Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 7 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Defense

Level 10 (Rogue)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Rogue)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 16 (Rogue)



Instead of oversized two weapon fighting you could substitute improved crit pierce or something else i just want to be able to dual wield rapiers, my builds need a few plus 1 tomes though... also if you don't have the second plus 2 tome (I actually have a plus 2 str tome that's why it's in there) you can put a lvl up point into strength and get the same result, the only reason I put the 2 strength tome in also was to open up the oversized two weapon fighting feat. if You don't need/want that, you don't need 12 strength.