A thought on Casting Items

[MysticTheurge]

Even then, each forging replaces the previous one. For other upgrades known (with the exception of Heightened Awareness2), tier2 stacks with tier1 for a better bonus. The spell boost items are severely lacking. Even in combination with other tier1 effects, say WIS+6 then GrDev6, it's still less than what is regularly found in random loot. :(

I had a thought.

Adding higher tiers of the same casting improvement should increase the spell level affected.

That is, if I get the improved X VI at tier one and then I do the same element for greater X VI at tier II, that should bump it up to VII instead of VI.

This would let you choose to either mix and match (improved X VI + greater Y VI) or specialize (greater X VII).

[MrCow]

Sounds like a sound plan to help out the currently undesired spell damage boosts on the Green Steel crafting.

[Cowdenicus]

The spell casting items (assuming one goes the same enhancement) should go:

Improved (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 6
Greater (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 7
Superior (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 8

as the three upgrades.

I am seriously still upset I made a devotion scepter that when it ends off is going to be worse than my darn superior potency 6 dagger I looted MONTHS ago.

(Note: as a cleric I really do not care about something like a res clicky. I am a cleric and can cast raise dead at will.)

[Oreg]

The spell casting items (assuming one goes the same enhancement) should go:

Improved (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 6
Greater (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 7
Superior (glacation, devotion, combustion et al) 8

as the three upgrades.

I am seriously still upset I made a devotion scepter that when it ends off is going to be worse than my darn superior potency 6 dagger I looted MONTHS ago.

(Note: as a cleric I really do not care about something like a res clicky. I am a cleric and can cast raise dead at will.)

Those are some serious upgrades tho Milkboy.

Quite honestly I think it should have been

Improved 7
Greater 7
Superior 7

Superior 7 should be a stand alone tier 3 upgrade so that you could get other modifiers in tier 1 and 2.

[Cowdenicus]

Those are some serious upgrades tho Milkboy.

Quite honestly I think it should have been

Improved 7
Greater 7
Superior 7

Superior 7 should be a stand alone tier 3 upgrade so that you could get other modifiers in tier 1 and 2.

No more serious upgrades than the acid, acid burst, acid blast weapons (or any other element out there) being made.

[SneakThief]

Those are some serious upgrades tho Milkboy.

Quite honestly I think it should have been

Improved 7
Greater 7
Superior 7

Superior 7 should be a stand alone tier 3 upgrade so that you could get other modifiers in tier 1 and 2.

7 I could with since it would be of SOME value ... right now Greater POTENCY 6 items are a dime a dozen and Superior POTENCY 6 items are falling in the vale rare chests. What good is a raid item that covers maybe 3 spell types when you can rather easily get one that covers them all?

[Cowdenicus]

7 I could with since it would be of SOME value ... right now Greater POTENCY 6 items are a dime a dozen and Superior POTENCY 6 items are falling in the vale rare chests. What good is a raid item that covers maybe 3 spell types when you can rather easily get one that covers them all?

note though i did not ask for potency.....

if these are limited to one school, they should be powerful..... hence superior devotion or whatever glacation..... 8

[MysticTheurge]

But see the problem is, if you just do all of then at 7, there's still no advantage to doing the same one multiple times.

You can do Improved X 7, Greater Y 7 and Superior Z 7 and it doesn't make a difference.

My proposal allows people to diversify (Improved X 6, Greater Y 6, Superior Z 6) or to focus (Superior X 8) and rewards the two different builds of items in different ways.

[SneakThief]

note though i did not ask for potency.....

if these are limited to one school, they should be powerful..... hence superior devotion or whatever glacation..... 8
Nope ... you didnt ... and NEITHER DID I! ... I simply pointed out that POTENCY 6 items are a dime a dozen now ... and the raid effect is a very sad 1/6th of that (or less).


But see the problem is, if you just do all of then at 7, there's still no advantage to doing the same one multiple times.

You can do Improved X 7, Greater Y 7 and Superior Z 7 and it doesn't make a difference.

My proposal allows people to diversify (Improved X 6, Greater Y 6, Superior Z 6) or to focus (Superior X 8) and rewards the two different builds of items in different ways.
Yes ... while that is a better solution its also more complicated to code. Changing them from 6 to 7 is an infinitely simple change. I would be okay with either.