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ArkoHighStar
02-12-2008, 02:16 PM
Been playing around a bit with a few concept builds, and decided I wanted to try a debuffer, paralyser support rogue, basically one who could get some decent AC, but be mostly ranged throwing out cursespewing, shattermantle and paralyse with a ranged weapon. This would be a 13 rogue/3 pally, built to have high saves, would go sword and board for melee and would be dex based finesse. This is not a starter build and relies on 32pts. I suppose you could go drow, but would lose the ranged enhancements with bows.With a minos legen and draconic vitality he should be sitting and about 255 hps at lvl 16.
Saves will be 22/32/21 without any buffs
Let me know what you think


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.80
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 16 Lawful Good Elf Male
(3 Paladin \ 13 Rogue)
Hit Points: 183
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 24
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 8 8
Dexterity 19 30
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 15 16
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 13 16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 8 19
Bluff 2 3
Concentration 1 2
Diplomacy 6 21
Disable Device 7 26
Haggle 2 3
Heal -1 -1
Hide 8 28
Intimidate 2 3
Jump 3 18
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 8 29
Open Lock 8 33
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 5
Search 7 28
Spot 3 24
Swim -1 1
Tumble n/a 11
Use Magic Device 6 25

Notable Equipment
Ring: Charismatic Ring
Ring: Dextrous Ring
Necklace: Health Necklace
Trinket: Kardin’s Eye
Belt: Ogre Power Belt
Bracers: Chaosguarde

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device

Level 2 (Rogue)

Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Rogue)

Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality

Level 7 (Rogue)

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 10 (Rogue)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Paladin)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 16 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Damage I
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber II
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber III
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Way of the Mechanic I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Search II
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot II
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

Impaqt
02-12-2008, 02:21 PM
I think the build would turn out a lot nicer as a 6Ranger/7Rogue/3Paly.

Free Improved 2WF, SOme nice Bow Enhancmetns, ManyShot, Arcane Archer or Deep Woods SNiper Enhancment...

ArkoHighStar
02-12-2008, 02:43 PM
I think the build would turn out a lot nicer as a 6Ranger/7Rogue/3Paly.

Free Improved 2WF, SOme nice Bow Enhancmetns, ManyShot, Arcane Archer or Deep Woods SNiper Enhancment...

I want this to be mostly rogue for adaptability, I am not trying to do damage just soften up the targets, switching out some enhancements and 1 or 2 feats I could easily switch to melee dmg. I have a ranger /pally already. I want to be able to pop heal and raise scrolls fairly easily 37 UMD with GH and a +5 item.

Impaqt
02-12-2008, 03:18 PM
I want this to be mostly rogue for adaptability, I am not trying to do damage just soften up the targets, switching out some enhancements and 1 or 2 feats I could easily switch to melee dmg. I have a ranger /pally already. I want to be able to pop heal and raise scrolls fairly easily 37 UMD with GH and a +5 item.

RIght, But if you CAN do some damage why not? UMD doesnt have to be adversly effected.. as a mater of fact, this build has a better UMD due to SKill Boost 3 in the Enhancments.

You dont need to swap out any feats to make this version a capable melee build.


Higher BAB Equalized out the DEX Difference in attack bonus.


Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.85
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Level 16 Lawful Good Elf Male
(3 Paladin \ 7 Rogue \ 6 Ranger)
Hit Points: 195
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 24
Will: 13

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 16)
Strength 10 10
Dexterity 18 26
Constitution 12 14
Intelligence 15 16
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 14 16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 16)
Balance 8 12
Bluff 3 3
Concentration 2 2
Diplomacy 7 22
Disable Device 7 26
Haggle 3 3
Heal -1 -1
Hide 7 25
Intimidate 3 3
Jump 4 11
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 8 25
Open Lock 8 24
Perform n/a n/a
Repair 3 5
Search 7 29
Spot 3 25
Swim 0 0
Tumble 5 9
Use Magic Device 7 25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness

Level 2 (Ranger)

Level 3 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device

Level 4 (Paladin)

Level 5 (Rogue)

Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse

Level 7 (Paladin)

Level 8 (Rogue)

Level 9 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons

Level 10 (Paladin)

Level 11 (Rogue)

Level 12 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Force of Personality

Level 13 (Rogue)

Level 14 (Ranger)

Level 15 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Piercing Weapons

Level 16 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost III
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Attack I
Enhancement: Elf Ranged Attack II
Enhancement: Elven Perception I
Enhancement: Elven Keen Eyes I
Enhancement: Rogue Acid Trap Lore I
Enhancement: Follower of the Silver Flame
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabber II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Way of the Mechanic I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device I
Enhancement: Rogue Disable Device II
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock II
Enhancement: Rogue Search I
Enhancement: Rogue Search II
Enhancement: Rogue Spot I
Enhancement: Rogue Spot II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II



Still 10 ACtion points left.

ArkoHighStar
02-12-2008, 04:11 PM
the extra UMD is easily achieved with enhancements changes within the build, I want improved evasion and improved uncanny dodge, as it is clear regular evasion just isn't going to cut it on elite.

I suppose I could trade improved crit pierce or toughness for resilience or luck of heroes. the ranger TWF feats are useless to me, bow str is not a huge extra as the best I could is +3 to damage. Many shot will be missed but the sneak attack dmg increase I believe will lessen the damage loss.

Impaqt
02-12-2008, 04:18 PM
Think abotu 3/3/10 then. Gets you IUC and Improved Evasion, Plus adds Bow Str (3 Points adds up) a Fav Eemy, rapid Shot, and Die Hard.... WHich is an awesome feat....