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Ironwind
02-07-2008, 03:40 PM
I was in a PUG doing Coalescence in the Vale.
There was a Drow Ranger15/Rogue1 in the group.
He was wearing a robe and TWF.
He claimed to have a 54 self-buffed AC.
Is this possible?
As a TWF rogue I would like to improve my AC to 54.
Here is my best guess, what am I missing?
10 base
+14 dex 38
+8 bracers
+5 protection
+5 barkskin
+3 chattering ring
+2 tempest enhancement
+1 TWF defense
= 48
Where could he be getting the extra 6 AC?
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
arcanehealer
02-07-2008, 03:42 PM
gh maybe or a special robe of some kind
Suppoko
02-07-2008, 03:44 PM
Dodge feat would give you 1 haste also gives 1
MrCow
02-07-2008, 03:48 PM
10 base
+14 dex 38
+8 bracers
+5 protection
+5 barkskin
+3 chattering ring
+2 tempest enhancement
+1 TWF defense
+1 Haste Potion
+1 Dodge Feat
+4 Shield via clickie/wand/scroll
= 54
I forget if the shield spell stacks with Two-Weapon Fighting defense. If it does, then this would work. Otherwise... I'm missing something as well.
Aesop
02-07-2008, 03:49 PM
CE (+5)
drop the Bracers get Chaos Guard (+2)
Use a +5 AC Robe (-3)
grab a second Chattering Ring (+3)
Drop tw defense (-1)
Shield Clickies or Wands (+4)
Dodge Feat (+1)
Weapon of Parrying (+1)
Haste (+1)
61 AC looks like
Aesop
binnsr
02-07-2008, 04:03 PM
CE (+5)
drop the Bracers get Chaos Guard (+2)
Use a +5 AC Robe (-3)
grab a second Chattering Ring (+3)
Drop tw defense (-1)
Shield Clickies or Wands (+4)
Dodge Feat (+1)
Weapon of Parrying (+1)
Haste (+1)
61 AC looks like
Aesop
Chattering Rings don't stack with themselves .. much to the chagrin of those who've looted 2 of them. (not me! :()
binnsr
02-07-2008, 04:09 PM
My rogue self-buffs to a 50 TWF.. (11rog/3pal/2ftr)
10 base
+9 Mithril Chain Shirt
+6 Dex
+2 FAM II (Dagger tooth belt)
+2 Paladin Aura
+1 Dodge Feat
+5 CE
+3 Barkskin Potion
+1 Haste Potion
+5 Protection Necklace
+2 Chaosgarde
If i scroll-cast recitation before re-engaging CE, that's another +2, but I rarely do that since I dislike dropping CE unless I need to.
Improved Uncanny Dodge and a +5 Heavy Mithril Shield makes it 59
Aesop
02-07-2008, 06:44 PM
Chattering Rings don't stack with themselves .. much to the chagrin of those who've looted 2 of them. (not me! :()
how odd
then I guess 58
for now
Aesop
Aesop
02-07-2008, 06:49 PM
My rogue self-buffs to a 50 TWF.. (11rog/3pal/2ftr)
10 base
+9 Mithril Chain Shirt
+6 Dex
+2 FAM II (Dagger tooth belt)
+2 Paladin Aura
+1 Dodge Feat
+5 CE
+3 Barkskin Potion
+1 Haste Potion
+5 Protection Necklace
+2 Chaosgarde
If i scroll-cast recitation before re-engaging CE, that's another +2, but I rarely do that since I dislike dropping CE unless I need to.
Improved Uncanny Dodge and a +5 Heavy Mithril Shield makes it 59
I need a set of the Chaosguards for my Rogue I'll be down 3 off that then... now if I could get a Chattering ring... Shortsword and Shield so a 54 AC without the Chaosguards
Aesop
QuantumFX
02-09-2008, 03:56 AM
10 - Base
13 - 36 DEX
2 - ChaosGuard
6 - White Dragon Robe
4 - Deflection from WDR
2 - Tempest enhancement
1 - Dodge
5 - CE
5 - Barkskin
3 - Chattering Ring
4 - L 10 Shield wand
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55
Aeneas
02-12-2008, 06:45 PM
Well, if you'd really like to know - with obnoxious equipment and luck
12 ranger/3 paladin/ 1 whatever you like halfling or elf (human could work too at the cost of 1 ac from dex for a free feat and HV/Human recovery)
+10 base
+16 dex (20 base, fully upgraded vale raid dex item for 9 dex) 4 from levels, 3 ranger, 2 racial, +3 tome, litany of dead = 42 dex)
+7 dragon robe
+2 insight weapon bonus from tier 2 new raid loot (3 might be possible, nobody has made it yet)
+1 parrying weapon
+5 combat expertise
+4 shield spell
+1 halfling racial bonus
+5 protection item
+2 chaosguarde
+3 chattering ring
+1 dodge feat
+5 barkskin spell at level 12 ranger
+2 paladin aura with bulwark of good 1
+1 two weapon defense
+2 tempest enhancement 1
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67 dual wielding long term buffs (elf could be a much better if you take the two first dragonmarks for a bunch of displacements at the cost of 1 racial AC, this would require a fighter level to fit in the tempest feats)
with short term clickies and such buffs
+3 paladin AC boost
+1 haste clicky
+2 recitation
+4 tumbling
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77 rolling around like you're on fire for 20 seconds
It should also be noted that at the cost of one more AC you could switch out chaosguardes for a set of rr +8 AC bracers and wear a fearsome of heavy fort robe (more useful and easier to maintain)
The big problem comes with feat selection: 4 feats are gone immediately - dodge, mobility, spring attack, combat expertise - leaving you with only 1 feat choice for something else (not really - you're taking weapon finesse buddy, and taking the fighter level at 16 instead of wizzy for extend will give you another combat feat so probably imp crit pierce there or power attack)
(parrying may not stack with the insight bonus on raid weaps, not sure about that one)
Levels 17-20 really will come down to personal preference - one more paladin level will grant 1st level pally spells (divine favor hooray!) and the other 3 ranger for another FE and 4th level spells and superior twf for free (this would be my choice i think)
Sorry for all the ramblings - i go a little stream of consciousness at times
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