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Cold_Stele
02-01-2008, 11:11 PM
Can anyone confirm if the 'Backstabber' bonus on weapons and items such as Backstabber Gloves stack please?

Cold_Stele
02-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Shameless bump.

Neither bonus appears to be named as such, so maybe they do, maybe they don't.

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/jgould2005/DDO/Items/BackstabbersGloves.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s220/jgould2005/DDO/Items/Treason.jpg

I surely can't be the only Rogue in the game that this is an issue for?

Cold_Stele
02-06-2008, 06:53 PM
hey, whilst I'm at it -

What about the Subtle Backstabber enhancement stacking with Treason?

C'mon guys this is important stuff here...

deepshadow
02-07-2008, 05:59 PM
The item effects should stack with your enhancements. Two items won't stack, only the higher powered item.

In the case of treason = 20% aggro reducation Plus whatever enhancement you have.

Sneak Attack should work the same way +5 Weapon + Enhancement bonus - adding backstabber gloves won't improve this if you're already wielding a backstabbing weapon.

Lunewann
02-07-2008, 06:06 PM
The item effects should stack with your enhancements. Two items won't stack, only the higher powered item.

In the case of treason = 20% aggro reducation Plus whatever enhancement you have.

Sneak Attack should work the same way +5 Weapon + Enhancement bonus - adding backstabber gloves won't improve this if you're already wielding a backstabbing weapon.


you sure on this because i know for example..... ventelated braces stack +3 DD to your skill even if you have another item....

Borror0
02-07-2008, 06:16 PM
What about the Subtle Backstabber enhancement stacking with Treason?

They stack, I'm pretty sure even Eladrin answered the question, but my memory could fail me. What is unsure (to me) is whether they would stack by addition (damage reduce by 60% to calculated hatred) or by multiplication (damage reduce to calculated hatred is 48% of damage dealt) and if Treason affects both weapon or simply the damage dealt by Treason.


Can anyone confirm if the 'Backstabber' bonus on weapons and items such as Backstabber Gloves stack please?

I doubt it will as they Backstabbing weapons don't stack. I would assume the gloves would follow the same logic.


ventelated braces stack +3 DD to your skill even if you have another item....

These bracers do not carry the same kind of bonus than other Disable Device items do (enhancement versus competence).

Lunewann
02-07-2008, 06:25 PM
They stack, I'm pretty sure even Eladrin answered the question, but my memory could fail me. What is unsure (to me) is whether they would stack by addition (damage reduce by 60% to calculated hatred) or by multiplication (damage reduce to calculated hatred is 48% of damage dealt) and if Treason affects both weapon or simply the damage dealt by Treason.



I doubt it will as they Backstabbing weapons don't stack. I would assume the gloves would follow the same logic.



These bracers do not carry the same kind of bonus than other Disable Device items do (enhancement versus competence).


Statement excepted this is most true the braces have a enchantment bonus.... and on reflection I honestly missed that <--- half asleep.

So in reality backstabbing gloves would not stack unless stated as a enchantment.... But im defently going to try and send a tell to Turbine to see if the can place Sneak attack damage in for rogues as this would also be a benifit... almost everything else was added in MOD6.....

Borror0
02-07-2008, 07:07 PM
To see if the can place Sneak attack damage in for rogues as this would also be a benifit... almost everything else was added in MOD6.....

I don't get this statement.

Lunewann
02-07-2008, 07:28 PM
I don't get this statement.

~Blocking damage reduction is now displayed in the inventory (equipped weapons) panel.~


~Stats that change when you are moving (Such as attack stats) will now be displayed on the fly in the inventory/equipped weapon window to prevent confusion. You'll now see the numbers changing when you start and stop moving.~


~In examination, the attack and damage mods were not showing the player's enhanced ability scores. This has been corrected to show the mod of the current ability score of the player.~

quoted from the mod6 updates and fixes.

My statement was more to the fact that if they can add and fix all these changes how hard would it be for them to add flanking damage.