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Xyfiel
01-07-2008, 04:34 PM
I have melee and tank type builds, but they are all caster hybrids except for one rogue. I am working on a high ac(tumbling), high saves, intimidating, hybrid who has the umd for res scrolls(44umd). Would use a wounding of puncturing for dps or parrying weapon for defense. Don't think I have enough slots for the items and I don't know the max usage of items since I didn't keep up with the mod5 ones. Any advice on slot layout is helpful. I am wondering how it would be to tumble around mobs with intimidate and using spring attack to keep my attack combos. Here is the rough draft.

Elf rogue2/pal4/Fighter10

str8 18 +6item+2enh+2tome
dex16 26 +6item+1enh+1tome+2enh
con14 22 +6item+2tome
int13 14 +1tome at L1
wis9 16 +6item+1tome
cha16 30 +6item+1enh+3tome+4levels
+6 str and wis item are not dire to be equipped

ac 57 normal/65 tumbling/76 fully buffed +3boost
10base+3chatteringring+2chaosguarde+16kds+7shield+ 2aura+1dodge+5CE+5deflection+3natural+2FAM+1parry+ 8mobility.
+2full aura+2full barkskin+1haste+2recitation+4bard song=+11

Feats
toughness, dragonmarkX3, extend, sf umd
dodge, ce, imp crit piercing, spring attack, mobility, finesse
Shadowwalk ends when attacking or interacting. I need to test it and see if I could intimidate and tumble with it still up. Could be a nice full out defense option. Displacements are obvious. Option of removing Greater mark for Force of personality.

Saves 34/36/28+2 vs enchantments
0/3/0Rogue, 4/1/1Paladin, 7/3/3Fighter, 6/8/3Stats, 5resist, 4gh, 2aura, 10divinegrace

Skills +2boost
umd, int, balance
umd 19ranks+4gh+10cha+5gloves+3feat=41
intimidate 19ranks+4gh+10cha+10item=43
open lock 4ranks+15item+7tools+2boost+8dex+1enh=37
100% heal scrolls, boost for 100% res in emergencies. Boost lasts long enough to get 2 resses out.
Not certain how many points I will have for balance.

attack 25/30
15bab, 2enh, 8dex, -5ce, 4gh, 1weapon (w/p)
Using a +5 weapon is +29 for things immune to con damage.
This is before any other buffs.

Hps 376
20feat+10draconicvitality+30gfl+100fighter+40palad in+12rogue+96con+18toughness+50toughness

Enhancements
Dex II, Extra Mark III, Elf Melee Attack II, AC Boost II, AM II, Crit Acc II, Item Def I, Mobility II, Str II, Tough IV, BOG I, Cha I, LOH I, ROG I, Acid Lore I, Dex I, OL I, Skill Boost I

Paladin 4 is for extend, I could use Divine favor with a wis item or +2 tome.

Xyfiel
01-07-2008, 07:00 PM
After discussing the build with some friends, seems that shadowwalk is best used for the speed boost and easily scrollable. Replace it with Force of Personality for +10 will. Saves become 34/36/38, 40 vs enchantments.

sigtrent
01-07-2008, 08:53 PM
Just a reality check for starters.

There is no way in any imaginably configuration that you will actualy run around with the gear your specify for the build. There just arn't enough slots to do all that so the numbers you are posting are not going to be there for you when you actualy play.

Xyfiel
01-07-2008, 09:38 PM
Hmm, let me see.

According to build:
Stats: +6dex/con/cha items, str if possible, wis is no longer needed
AC: Kundarak Delving Suit, +5 heavy shield, chattering ring, chaosguarde, +5 deflection, parry weapon
DPS: w/p and various weapons
Skills: titan gloves, intimidate, open lock items are as needed
Saves: +5 resist
Hps: greater false life
heavy fort
Planar Girds for gh

Weapon: parry, w/p, various
Shield: +5 heavy shield
Armor: Kundarak Delving Suit
Goggles: undecided
Hat: +6cha
Necklace: +6con
trinket: Kardin's Eye
cloak: +5deflection
belt: Electric Haze (gfl and heavy fort)
boots: +6dex
gloves: seven fingered
bracers: chaosguarde
rings: chattering ring, +4str/10intimidate is a L15 rr item

Depending on how bad I want str, I could use a con ring and the emerald claw talisman as my intimidate item and gain fearsome.
If I want to lose 1 ac/saves, I can use Sorrel and free up 2 slots.

Now for the hard part of difficulty in obtaining said items. Have most of the items already. Only things that really stand out are the KDS, Titan gloves, chattering ring, and Electric Haze. 20 runs of Dragon and Titan should cover 3 of those and can be done easiley within 10 weeks. Haze should become easier once people are running Abott again. So, maybe 3 months of moderate playing to gather the items.

Gratch
01-09-2008, 05:14 PM
My Batman build goes with:
helm: +6 cha
gloves: Titan gloves (well not yet, but soon)
neck: +6 con
belt: +6 str
bracers: chaosgarde (switchable to remove fear, jump, neutralize posion)
ring 1: +4 resist (want to get the Abbot one that is +4 resist, +13 intim if he's ever winnable)
ring 2: chattering or switchable to +13 intim, remove curse, remove blindness, balance ring, +6 int, unlock
goggles: mentau for +4 seeker or switchable to +15 rogue skills
trinket: head of good fortune
cloak: +5 prot or gtr static resist
armor: currently breastplate of vol (+5 mith bp with +4 dex)
boots: 30% striders or ffall or madstone or +6 dex
shield: Fanion +4 mith/twilight, gtr false life, magi shield (took forever to get)

It's a lot of switching, but I can go 50's ac or full rogue (int ring + correct goggles) or madstone in the reaver. I usually end up farming resist wands (L11) to makeup for keeping the +5 prot cloak equipped, but sometimes you need static resists. The HV +5 boosts also help whether it's to-hit, ac, saves, or skills that's needed. Though it was easier when it was just a static skill boost.

I need earring slots... or nose ring... or actual floating ioun stones that don't take the trinket slot.

Though right now... running around the necropolis... really like to have that Necropolis necklace of 10/no level drains equipped... so I've gone with +6 con belt and +6 str gloves... and the +3 umd torque or the necropolis necklace equipped.

It should be interesting how the new L15 items let us get more effects per item. Also whether the "crafting/enhancing" of items from the raid will help with "slot consolidation".