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osirisisis
12-08-2007, 11:24 PM
blood stone give U a +6 to damage on a crit, a +6 to confirm a crit and this stacks with crit accuracy fit. enhancement. yes or no?

Shade
12-08-2007, 11:42 PM
Yes. All enhancements stack with everything item wise.

sirgog
12-09-2007, 04:24 PM
blood stone give U a +6 to damage on a crit, a +6 to confirm a crit and this stacks with crit accuracy fit. enhancement. yes or no?

Better than that. The +6 damage is applied before the crit multiplier. So if you crit with a Khopesh (crit x3), the Bloodstone adds 18 damage.

Can you say ouch?

Ranmaru2
12-09-2007, 11:17 PM
I'm not so sure it adds 18 damage...I think it adds it to the damage you deal and THEN does the crit multiplier, as I've had it add anywhere from 12-30 points onto my crits (weapon dependent).

mgoldb2
12-09-2007, 11:21 PM
I'm not so sure it adds 18 damage...I think it adds it to the damage you deal and THEN does the crit multiplier, as I've had it add anywhere from 12-30 points onto my crits (weapon dependent).

It adds 6 damage to the amount of damage you do if you crit. Which will always lead to 12 or 18 or 24 extra damage depending on mutipler. The damage increase is static. If it a X3 mutipler 18 damage is the amount of extra damage it giving you.

MrCow
12-09-2007, 11:24 PM
Aye, I can second the statement that the damage is added before the critical hit is calculated. It always adds 12 damage on my critical hits with scimitars, kukri, greatclubs, and other x2 critical hit weapons, 18 damage on greataxes, mauls, warhammers, and other x3 critical hit weapons, and 24 damage on light or heavy picks.

Bloodstones work really nicely for folks who duel-wield kukri/scimitar and have improved critical slashing (or barbarians with a wide spread critical range on picks).

Ranmaru2
12-09-2007, 11:27 PM
It adds 6 damage to the amount of damage you do if you crit. Which will always lead to 12 or 18 or 24 extra damage depending on mutipler. The damage increase is static. If it a X3 mutipler 18 damage is the amount of extra damage it giving you.

I'm not exactly sure that's the case. I tried it out on my dex fighter, and I was doing 12-18 damage (non crit and no power attack), and when I'd crit I was doing 24-36, and then I put on power attack and then crits were 34-46, but when I put the bloodstone on, I was doing 40-52 damage on my crits. It adds 6 and then multiplies it from what I saw during that test (Both weapons used had a x2 crit).

mgoldb2
12-10-2007, 12:07 AM
I It adds 6 and then multiplies it from what I saw during that test (Both weapons used had a x2 crit).

Am confuse is that not exactly what I said? And if it adds 6 before multiple and the multiple 2 then 6X2=12 which is exactly what I said it would be on a X2 mutipler. 12 extra damage every single time with a weapon with X2 mutipler and it would be 6X3=18 damage if it was a X3 mutipler.

Ranmaru2
12-10-2007, 12:27 AM
Am confuse is that not exactly what I said? And if it adds 6 before multiple and the multiple 2 then 6X2=12 which is exactly what I said it would be on a X2 mutipler. 12 extra damage every single time with a weapon with X2 mutipler and it would be 6X3=18 damage if it was a X3 mutipler.

That wouldn't work out mathematically, as that should have made my crits 46-58, but that was not the case.

Impaqt
12-10-2007, 12:38 AM
That wouldn't work out mathematically, as that should have made my crits 46-58, but that was not the case.

It sounds like yoru saying the same thing......

Bloodstones definatly att 6 BEFORE crit multiplier....

+12 to a X2 Weapon, +18 to a x3 Weapon and +24 to an x4 weapon.

Ghoste
12-10-2007, 12:47 AM
Dont have a link for you, but this was explained in a WDA earlier this year when the damage bonus for seeker was added. Q said something to the effect of "watch out for those heavy picks of seeker +10".

Ghoste
12-10-2007, 01:05 AM
Found it. Here's the link. (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=106051&highlight=heavy+picks+seeker+10) And it was Samera, not Q.

The bonus from Seeker now also adds to the base damage of the weapon on critical hits (before multiplication). Beware Seeker Heavy Picks.

Kebugobi
12-10-2007, 01:26 AM
this is not a bloodstone question but.....
does an OFF HAND seeker bonus also apply to the MAIN HAND weapon?
(ex. if i had a seeker +10 light mace in offhand and a heavy pick in main hand.... would the pick still get the seeker bonus?)

MrCow
12-10-2007, 01:30 AM
Yes, seeker items apply to all weapons regardless of the slot the seeker bonus comes from. This also applies to other effects such as backstabbing, vertigo, sunder, and weighted weapons (although in the case of weighted, only the bonus to stunning blow is applied to all weapons if I recall correctly).

GreenGurgler
03-24-2008, 03:23 PM
Incorrect, this was recently clarified by a Dev:


DeadlyGazebo wrote: The plus applies both to the confirmation roll, and to the critical hit damage before multipliers (so a bloodstone gives +6, meaning on a heavy pick your end damage went up by 24). The plus to damage is an "enhancement" bonus, but it is a bonus to critical-hit-damage, not regular damage, so it will stack with your +5 weapon's +5 enhancement bonus to regular damage.

The current description is incomplete; a better description will show up in mod 7.

And yes, if you crit a lot with a high-multiplier weapon, seeker is a very powerful thing to have.


http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=138729&highlight=bloodstone+stacks&page=2

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