poll do you want loot and xp for down time

[wemery73]

loot : yes hope better then +1 for the amount of time game was down

xp: yes to level new lowbies i made hope better then 50% for the amount of time game was down

anyone else?

[Mhykke]

I want a summon velah clicky.

*Edit:

in the interest of the clicky not being overpowered, it can only be 3 times per rest, and not five. :D

[wemery73]

I want a summon velah clicky.

that would be sweet

[Litz]

Can we opt for new content (specificaly trebuchets) instead?

[MrCow]

If I can fling cows from the trebuchets, I'm all for trebuchets.

I was never fond of the +1 loot (as I don't make DDO revolve around loot) and the EXP bonus is nice but not really necessary (my characters will reach maxed out EXP if I enjoy them one way or another, simple as that).

[Falco_Easts]

No to both. Mistakes happen, get over it. They don't owe us anything.

[Memnir]

No.

Just because there was a problem is no reason to start demanding/expecting handouts.

[Hvymetal]

No.

[ZarakNur]

No.
No.

NO.

[Elsbet]

I want a summon velah clicky.

*Edit:

in the interest of the clicky not being overpowered, it can only be 3 times per rest, and not five. :D

I want all of Mhykke's grease clickies permanently set to zero. ;)

[smatt]

No

Those were fun and all, but expecting a cookie every time something goes wrong in life... Well it just ain't gonna happen :)

[Dane_McArdy]

No.

I wish people would stop trying to personally profit from a mistake. I find that offensive.

[saber7]

Well I say yes, guess I'm one of the rebels:)

[CSFurious]

not for the downtime, for the delay in new content & the ****-poor content contained within mod 5

the one thing that most DDO players are is dedicated & it is time for some love from Turbine for that dedication

[Hendrik]

No!
No!
No!
No!
No!
No!
No!
No!


And No!

[adamkatt]

I want fine women and drink!

[BlueLightBandit]

I think it was said before somewhere, I'll have to look for the post.

No

[Shadow_Flayer]

and also, No.

[Mercules]

What for what?


Um.... No.

[Lorichie]

Nope.

They owe me nothing.

[Aesop]

I'm with Litz... Trebuchets all the way

I don't need a loot weekend I wouldn't object to another character slot though :D

Aesop

[Yaga_Nub]

No.

I wish people would stop trying to personally profit from a mistake. I find that offensive.

Then you must find most people offensive as that is human nature.

[herzkos]

The only thing i'd like is to know what happened that caused the downtime.
Not necessarily technical info, but just some info other than network issue.
(bonus points awarded if they tell us how they're going to keep that specific issue
from re-occuring!)

[stockwizard5]

How about a free tome piece for everyone ...

[Dane_McArdy]

Then you must find most people offensive as that is human nature.

You have no idea. But it's not so much human nature, as a societies nature.

[Mercules]

Then you must find most people offensive as that is human nature.

Funny you should mention that....

[smatt]

Funny you should mention that....


LOL :)

[llevenbaxx]

Not really. Sick of looting and my only uncapped characters are levels 8 & 10. If I had more slots to make new characters I might enjoy the xps. As is, Im in no hurry to cap out my last slots.

[Cowdenicus]

You have no idea. But it's not so much human nature, as a societies nature.

Dane what are we to do with you.......

[Polunius]

NO and NO

There is no reason for it, get over it as these things happen. They had an issue that needed to be fixed, plain and simple. Im sure that never happened to the Op where something took longer than expected or did not go perfectly. Get over it because its only a game. Find some other thing to do outside of mommy's basement when you can't play. There are other things out there and not playing for a night might enlighten people to that. Way to serious to be demanding loot and ex for this.

[Vormaerin]

No, I don't want or expect any compensation. Its not like this game is lacking loot or xp as it is. Besides, its not like some colossal blunder like having to do a rollback or wiping a bunch of data. We couldn't play for half a day longer than expected. Big deal.

IF turbine feels compensation is merited for the time we had to do something else instead... the horror... well, I'd rather it was something entirely different than further inflating the PG level of the game (is that even possible?). And no, I don't have capped toons or piles of sweet loot I don't want others to get. I want to feel like I achieved something when I level up or get a spiffy keen item as a drop.

[DSL]

No.... a sincere apology is quite sufficient for me, and as far as I'm concerned, we already got that.

[Cowdenicus]

No, I don't want or expect any compensation. Its not like this game is lacking loot or xp as it is. Besides, its not like some colossal blunder like having to do a rollback or wiping a bunch of data. We couldn't play for half a day longer than expected. Big deal.

IF turbine feels compensation is merited for the time we had to do something else instead... the horror... well, I'd rather it was something entirely different than further inflating the PG level of the game (is that even possible?). And no, I don't have capped toons or piles of sweet loot I don't want others to get. I want to feel like I achieved something when I level up or get a spiffy keen item as a drop.

well keen is kinda suxxor after level 8, oh wait, you didnt literally mean a keen item?????

nm then

/slowly backing up.

[Whippy]

No. These things happen.. they said sorry, nuff said.

[Hafeal]

No.

But if they wanted to give away some free medium or large collectable/gem bags I would not say no. They gave away dragonshards once before and collectable bags wld be a nice way to say thanks.

[Crud]

No, took the opportunity to make lemonade.

[Dariun]

Uh, I don't care about the downtime that much. Stuff happens.

And the loot doesn't excite me.

But I always want more XP. Please triple the XP for all lvl 7-11 quests. :p

[rpasell]

No.

[Dane_McArdy]

Dane what are we to do with you.......

Nothing, I'm happy with who I am.

[ahpook]

No thanks.

If they really wanted to do something they could refund everyone for their half days unexpected outage. Hopefully when people get their shiny quarter they will realize that all their kvetching was over so little.

[Nauthiz]

Although it's been said, I want to add one more vote to the "No" column in case someone uses this thread to gauge the public opinion. So far, it's nearly unanimous.

Party on, Wayne.

Edit: It occurs to me that gauging public opinion is precisely what a poll is for. Must have more coffee.

[Cowdenicus]

Although it's been said, I want to add one more vote to the "No" column in case someone uses this thread to gauge the public opinion. So far, it's nearly unanimous.

Party on, Wayne.

Party on Garth.

God I am old, and like bad movies.

/plays air guitar.

[tihocan]

No

[Allasar]

No

[Nott]

No. Bonus loot and/or exp will only make the insufficient amount of content run out faster.

[Yaga_Nub]

You have no idea. But it's not so much human nature, as a societies nature.


I can go with that but then I would point out that most people have an inherent instinct to better themselves (it's part of the survival instinct, once you are past the point of just surviving, human then begin to focus on bettering their situation). We could go into the psychology of humans, nature/nurture, etc. but that's just a waste of time. I'm cynical. Basically, I believe that if a person can F you and profit from it, they will. If they can profit from your mistakes, they will. If they can help you and there by profit somewhere down the line, they will.

No one does anything for purely altruistic reasons. There is always a hidden agenda.

Except me of course. I'm a friggin' saint. :)

[wemery73]

I'm with Litz... Trebuchets all the way

I don't need a loot weekend I wouldn't object to another character slot though :D

Aesop

another character slot does sound good

[Khyron]

I want a Pony

[dragons1ayer74]

I dont feel I am owed anything but as a fairly new player to the game would try and enjoy something like a +1 weekend. Most of the long time players have all the neat loot is that why they don't want another weekend to stop the newer players from getting it too? Or do they not want the extra traffic on the servers for that time?

[Perceval418]

loot : yes hope better then +1 for the amount of time game was down

xp: yes to level new lowbies i made hope better then 50% for the amount of time game was down

anyone else?

Emphatically signed NO

I just did real life stuff for a day. Those login servers never go down...

[Dane_McArdy]

I can go with that but then I would point out that most people have an inherent instinct to better themselves (it's part of the survival instinct, once you are past the point of just surviving, human then begin to focus on bettering their situation). We could go into the psychology of humans, nature/nurture, etc. but that's just a waste of time. I'm cynical. Basically, I believe that if a person can F you and profit from it, they will. If they can profit from your mistakes, they will. If they can help you and there by profit somewhere down the line, they will.

I feel people have a tendency towards certain behaviors, which are either heightened by the current society, or dampened by the current society.


No one does anything for purely altruistic reasons. There is always a hidden agenda.

Nothing is altryistic, yes, but sometimes the motive is it just makes people feel good to do nice things. For example, when I wasn't having anything to do with my family for several years, I spent every Thanksgiving and Christmas at soup kitchens as a volunteer, serving food to the homeless. It wasn't entirely because I wanted to make sure they had something to eat and a warm place to be on those days soley, it was also because I needed something.

But not everything is done with hidden agendas. Generally, people with hidden agendas don't want people to know their real movites, because they might be frowned on. Though sometimes it's because they want to do good, but not have a fuss made over them.

There is always a reason to do something. Sometimes, to improve yourself, you need to help others with improving themselvs. The indiviual verus society.

[Gratch]

Hmm... No on loot/xp.

But assuming the downtime was gameside only, their devs got a whole day without Q/T noting forum pleas, gripes, wines, complaints, suggestions, questions, repeatable bugs, etc. A whole day. They probably got something done in that timeframe. I say that means we get some of their time back: IRC Chat... (and/or Yo Mama Contest on IRC).

[GeneralDiomedes]

No.

I would like to see them organize a server wide team vs team PvP tournament, however. That would be fun.

[GeneralDiomedes]

Nothing is altryistic, yes, but sometimes the motive is it just makes people feel good to do nice things. For example, when I wasn't having anything to do with my family for several years, I spent every Thanksgiving and Christmas at soup kitchens as a volunteer, serving food to the homeless. It wasn't entirely because I wanted to make sure they had something to eat and a warm place to be on those days soley, it was also because I needed something.

But not everything is done with hidden agendas. Generally, people with hidden agendas don't want people to know their real movites, because they might be frowned on. Though sometimes it's because they want to do good, but not have a fuss made over them.

There is always a reason to do something. Sometimes, to improve yourself, you need to help others with improving themselvs. The indiviual verus society.

Well after reading freakonomics, I do believe this. Most people are generally honest, and doing nice things makes people feel good about themselves which is a powerful psychological incentive.

[maddmatt70]

I am actually going to say yes, but not because of the downtime, but more as a way to spark interest in the game and as a holiday treat. Everybody argues that a +1 loot weekend would further unbalance the game. I would agree with those people in regards to the previous loot weekends, but not regarding this one for the following reason the level cap raises in a month. We will be looting the same level chests (18) in a month's time anyway so there is not much of an unbalancing factor, and regardless our current loot will become outdated when the level cap goes up so why not get a headstart. The problem with the previous loot weekends was that they were too soon after the cap was raised and reinforced the monty haul aspects of this game. I think the +1 weekend should be in two weekends. The xp weekend I am more in favor of as a present for early in a cap so I would hold off on that although I would like something nice for newer players as well..

[Grimborn]

No.

[Hokiewa]

yes.

[Dariun]

Most of the long time players have all the neat loot is that why they don't want another weekend to stop the newer players from getting it too?

Pretty much.

Not really to stop new players from getting stuff, but to stop them from getting it more easily than the long time players.

Of course, the long time players have already had 4 +1 loot/50% xp weekends. :rolleyes:

[Barumar]

I am actually going to say yes, but not because of the downtime, but more as a way to spark interest in the game and as a holiday treat. Everybody argues that a +1 loot weekend would further unbalance the game. I would agree with those people in regards to the previous loot weekends, but not regarding this one for the following reason the level cap raises in a month. We will be looting the same level chests (18) in a month's time anyway so there is not much of an unbalancing factor, and regardless our current loot will become outdated when the level cap goes up so why not get a headstart. The problem with the previous loot weekends was that they were too soon after the cap was raised and reinforced the monty haul aspects of this game. I think the +1 weekend should be in two weekends. The xp weekend I am more in favor of as a present for early in a cap so I would hold off on that although I would like something nice for newer players as well..

I agree with MadMatt, while I don't think they owe us for yesterday (hardware issues happen! A nice detailed explaination would be nice, but no need to give us anything for it IMHO).

However, I also agree with him that some kind of special event would be nice. I know that the Festivus Jester MAY be back soon (and I really hope so, as I am almost out of cool cookies and cakes :)), but I think they should do this:

A Welcome Back Weekend with +50% XP. There are a lot of old players I really miss, and who knows the "Home for the Holiday's" line may actually work on some of these ex DDO players!

Barumar

[Ghoste]

no

[Ron]

As I said in the other thread:

+XP: No. Too many people already sitting at the level cap. Do not make it worse.

+Loot: No. Too much uber-loot already in the game. Do not make it worse.

[Dirkan]

No

[Cordelia]

No.

I wish people would stop trying to personally profit from a mistake. I find that offensive.

More than any idea or sentiment in this thread, I find this post offensive. Get over yourself.

[Mercules]

I dont feel I am owed anything but as a fairly new player to the game would try and enjoy something like a +1 weekend. Most of the long time players have all the neat loot is that why they don't want another weekend to stop the newer players from getting it too? Or do they not want the extra traffic on the servers for that time?

The 50% XP would help you, but not the +1 loot. While you are pulling a +1 Flaming Sword from a lower level chest the long time players will likely be pulling another Vorpal or Paralyzer they will put on the market for insane ammounts or twink down to a character near your level. How does that help the new guy? :)

[schroebj13]

I know some have said it, but DDO should not revolve around loot and exp points. I play for the experience and the fun of it. If I end up leveling a character to the level cap, OK. If I find a piece of loot that will better help me along the way even better. DDO is a way for me to relax from the stress of RL. It is just a game. Yes, I was disapointed that I didn't get to play Monday night, but I just found something else to do.

We do not need another loot/exp weekend.

[Dane_McArdy]

More than any idea or sentiment in this thread, I find this post offensive. Get over yourself.

Your offended because I'm offended, and you wish me to not express this, while you express yours?

[liamfrancais]

No, not that I would not play if they have one.

[muffinlad]

No to the loot.

No to the Xp.

Yes to the Trebuchet. (and I pronounce it -TRAY-BUCKET...so there!)

muffinlauncer

PS. Eventually, we can get a +1 Loot/+50% exp weekend, just not over this. When it makes sense to market it, and bring back some more players, sure...but not for this.

[Impaqt]

Do I feel we're Owed a Loot weekend? No...

WOuld I Like a Loot/XP/Welcome back weekend.... ABsolutely.

[redoubt]

no, not for the down time.

Though, I (speaking for noone else), would enjoy a +1 loot weekend.

[Gadget2775]

Nope.

[lenric]

/vote no

[Pellegro]

Wasn't this already decided?

...

anyway, I wouldn't care so much for a loot weekend as the last thing this game needs is more uberleetness floating around.

a + XP weekend, however .... now *that* I would have appreicated as I abhor the low levels and the difficulty of finding groups to do anything other than the tired cycle of usual suspect quests ...

[Falco_Easts]

Would be mildly curious to see if there was a way of doing a re-roll weekend. Any character created from scratch on that weekend gained +50% for any quests ran during that time.

[sirgog]

+1 Loot - NO!

A new idea for a weekend tho - +50% XP, only applies to quests you are running for the first time on the toon, stacks with 25% norm/hard or 50% elite bonus.

[Demitris]

Loot: No, loot weekends are boring grind and already enough loot in the game.
XP: No, XP is already easy enough to get, so what if it takes a day or 2 more to level up, personally I like the grouping that takes place to get there.

[smodge13]

no, we got our +1 day to our accounts which so many people were whining for, congratulations you got your 50c, people just being greedy asking for +1 loot. also too many uber items, everyone has at least 1 of the big 5 weapons, which is way too much imo.

[Agarwaen]

Yes, I would love a +1 loot day. But I've also only been playing a few months and have never had one.

[Grimdiegn]

No

But I would like to kill a pony...

[VonBek]

Ron, stop writing my words for me.



+XP: No. Too many people already sitting at the level cap. Do not make it worse.
+Loot: No. Too much uber-loot already in the game. Do not make it worse.
Monty Haul does this game no favors. The ship's already low in the water from excessive loot. I'd rather it not sink from it.


No. But if they wanted to give away some free medium or large collectable/gem bags I would not say no. They gave away dragonshards once before and collectable bags wld be a nice way to say thanks.
Though, this appeals to me, as a holiday/promotional gesture. Thanks.

[Whetstone]

No. I don't want any more loot or xp weekends. It sucks the life out of real adventuring. Both are plentiful enough anyway if that is your thing.

[Dariun]

It sucks the life out of real adventuring.

lol

[GreenGurgler]

Neither.

I always thought that giving away something to us in a virtual world to make up for screw ups or more precisely game outage to be silly.

Ill take the day credit anyday. Do I need the 50 cents? NO. But what do you think would hurt a company( get there attention) more to avoid future screw ups; them giving us something of no real world (bonus loot/xp) value that is no 'punishment' or deterent to them to repeat the behavior or them actually giving us a real world refund/credit ? To me the real world credit is much more likely to prevent a company from accepting failure than giving us a freeby nothing.

$.50 x number of subscribers = BIG real world money and disincentive for them.

[ccheath776]

No because the +1 loot is not much of anything.
And also that down time is down time and although its ok for them to apologize. Turbine doesn't owe me anything but an apology which they have already issued.

Good customers want good service
bad customers want to take advantage of the situation.

Extorting Turbine to get a +1 loot and 50% weekend is being a bad customer.

Turbine said their apologies, it happens. No system is perfect and people seem to forget the other 365 days that the system was up. Move along people nothing more to see here.
End of line.

[cdbd3rd]

Kind of a pointless thread, but I'll throw a copper at it anyway.

I like the way it was handled this time. Lots of info during the crisis and an unnecessary (but appreciated) expendable token of apology.
The token candy canes benefit everyone no matter how much time they play, or which days they can log in. The Looticus weekends always leave some folks out in the cold.