New Shop

[setie]

I hope the dev's see this some of us were hopeing the dev's would consider adding a shop for clr's only being able them to buy cheaper Bound wands,scrolls and clr stuff i think by doing this would help the clr class be more pleaseing to play . PLEASE ADD YOUR IMPUT TO THIS THREAD FOR A CHANGE!!!!!:o






Leader of Elders of Stormreach

And a proud 14th lv broke clr :)

[MrCow]

*Boggle*

Cleric does not equal healer. To bestow such a thing is not really in the spirit of Dungeons and Dragons.

[Lizzybrat]

I thought we had that in house J - am I missing something?

[Strakeln]

Sounds like Thelanis needs a Qwijymart.

[Generals]

What we need is a bard shop. With lute's, pipes, drums and harps. And a hooka lounge wb nice too!

[Brai]

Getting into these higher levels it would be nice to have a place to buy cure critical wands and some of the other high level healing items. Dare I say an introduction of Heal potions is also in order?

[Uamhas]

Actually, that sounds to me like you'd want to make it easier for people to do withOUT clerics. But that may just be my perception.

[Lizzybrat]

Getting into these higher levels it would be nice to have a place to buy cure critical wands and some of the other high level healing items. Dare I say an introduction of Heal potions is also in order?

Why have a cleric in the party at all then? Might as well make a wizard instead.

[Brai]

Who runs with clerics anyway? I know I have mine and she would love to be able to buy cure critical wands without a 3 day waiting period. maybe it would just help if more people put buyouts on auctions.

I run on fighters quite a bit too with hps in the 300-400 range, they are all self healing and I don't complain during runs, but It takes them 10-15 charges on a cure serious to get back to full. I guess I just don't want to be a drain on the cleric with all the buffing they have to do now a days, especially with all the undead around. Not even to mention when quell are around.

[Dorthin_Othortin]

count me out, im with the "it would make clerics less useful to a party" crowd

heres a suggestion, go a week without buying a healing wand on your cleric..........

if you find that you cant handle healing your party then maybe something is wrong......

[Lizzybrat]

Who runs with clerics anyway? I know I have mine and she would love to be able to buy cure critical wands without a 3 day waiting period. maybe it would just help if more people put buyouts on auctions.

I run on fighters quite a bit too with hps in the 300-400 range, they are all self healing and I don't complain during runs, but It takes them 10-15 charges on a cure serious to get back to full. I guess I just don't want to be a drain on the cleric with all the buffing they have to do now a days, especially with all the undead around. Not even to mention when quell are around.

Ahh maybe that's the difference. As a level 14 cleric I rarely buff. I let the pallys, rangers, sorcs, wizards, bards buff and then I will dv them back up if needed. I also can not remember the last time I have ever had to buy a wand or heal scroll. And unless you are spec'd with your ap's for high level wands cure crit rarely does better then cure serious and is simply a money sink.

[setie]

Sry all i guess everyone is missing the point all i hear is people b itching about not being able to afford wands and heal scrolls to heal fighters like mine that have over 400+ hp's and no it's not being one way my post could apply to all classes. As we get up in levels healing will be harder i think! The cost of such things is crazy for clr's alone i am sry that some of you disaggree and i am sure some of you all don't "NEED" clr's. But i run this game alot and i see people all the time who do. ALL I AM SAYING IS THE COST OF A CLR IS TOO COSTY AND THATS WY ON THE LFM ALL YOU SEE IS LOOKING FOR MORE CLR'S...




DON'T COMPLAIN "WERES MY HEAL AT IF YOU DON'T CHIP IN................

[Brai]

Ahh maybe that's the difference. As a level 14 cleric I rarely buff. I let the pallys, rangers, sorcs, wizards, bards buff and then I will dv them back up if needed. I also can not remember the last time I have ever had to buy a wand or heal scroll. And unless you are spec'd with your ap's for high level wands cure crit rarely does better then cure serious and is simply a money sink.

My cleric is a healing machine. She is made to heal in the most mp cost effective way. I play my cleric the same way you do it seems, but not all do and I pride myself on being self sufficient on my other toons. I want to be the guy that will save you from a wipe. When I'm on my cleric I feel it is my job to keep everyone going to complete the mission, a support class. I have problems in the rarest occasions, always these occasions are PUGs, but I'll never complain or ask for funds. Joining a PUG as a cleric is accepting that reality.

[Lizzybrat]

Sry all i guess everyone is missing the point all i hear is people b itching about not being able to afford wands and heal scrolls to heal fighters like mine that have over 400+ hp's and no it's not being one way my post could apply to all classes. As we get up in levels healing will be harder i think! The cost of such things is crazy for clr's alone i am sry that some of you disaggree and i am sure some of you all don't "NEED" clr's. But i run this game alot and i see people all the time who do. ALL I AM SAYING IS THE COST OF A CLR IS TOO COSTY AND THATS WY ON THE LFM ALL YOU SEE IS LOOKING FOR MORE CLR'S...




DON'T COMPLAIN "WERES MY HEAL AT IF YOU DON'T CHIP IN................

I understand your concept. It's just as someone who runs a cleric as their main I truly do not understand how people claim their clerics are broke all the time. I don't claim to be the best cleric on the server but I don't think I've had many people have issues with running with me and I have been sitting on the same three wands for the last 2 mods. And speaking as a cleric, if you are in a party and burning through your mana healing then you need to look at the situation - if the party wants you to use wands then they can buy them for you. If someone is being an aggro sponge and being stupid about it, stop healing them. Mo has a very special pocket for soul stones. There is absolutely no reason in this game that a cleric should be a healbot, nor is there any reason they should be selling their first born to stock themselves with scroll and wands.

[setie]

lol... I play a great clr and people on 90% of the time don't die! but i don't use wands my self, all heal scrolls here. wands like i said are a waste of time for the big hp guys....

All i am doing is speaking for thos clr's out there that are good but broke and or going to stop playing theres because of the cost!


It's gets costy for me healing with mana and heal scrolls (20k pp) every time i load up for high end quests.





Leader of Elders of Stormreach

Nightquil 14th lv clr

[Lizzybrat]

Don't use heal scrolls either.
If people are leaving the game because they are upset that their characters are always broke, might be time to pick a different class to play. Or suck it up and tell the pugs they are running with that they aren't going to spend all their money on them. It's that age old saying - everything in life is a choice, they are choosing to be broke, and then they are choosing to complain about it.

[setie]

Don't use heal scrolls either.
If people are leaving the game because they are upset that their characters are always broke, might be time to pick a different class to play. Or suck it up and tell the pugs they are running with that they aren't going to spend all their money on them. It's that age old saying - everything in life is a choice, they are choosing to be broke, and then they are choosing to complain about it.

Yes your right! my thoughts are for people in game that don't think like you or me. i know of some great clr's that just stoped playing theres all toghter. when i bring my fighter to a group i try to help with cash for healing and such,If you all have ran with me on any of my toons you all know if i die it's my fault. But let me ask you this question then how many high lv chests do you have to loot before you get paid? and wy should we have to loot all the time to quest or raid orr to get gear we need "i" get tired of running the same quest all the time for the gear i need to become better."Tomes pages" for example i have ran that quest 50 times to fill my book so i can get the dagger i need on my casters and did not even come close in loot to get back my cost in pots and repair bills, if people don't complain about money they ether don't spend and quest hard or buy plat.....I play 5 to 10 hrs a day with 9 toons loot all the time for money and or gear i need but am still broke something have to change in the ddo coin system and or give us more dungens to go in. Or give us the feats to make our own gear , pots,wands..............ect:D

[Lizzybrat]

Yes your right! my thoughts are for people in game that don't think like you or me. i know of some great clr's that just stoped playing theres all toghter. when i bring my fighter to a group i try to help with cash for healing and such,If you all have ran with me on any of my toons you all know if i die it's my fault. But let me ask you this question then how many high lv chests do you have to loot before you get paid? and wy should we have to loot all the time to quest or raid orr to get gear we need "i" get tired of running the same quest all the time for the gear i need to become better."Tomes pages" for example i have ran that quest 50 times to fill my book so i can get the dagger i need on my casters and did not even come close in loot to get back my cost in pots and repair bills, if people don't complain about money they ether don't spend and quest hard or buy plat.....I play 5 to 10 hrs a day with 9 toons loot all the time for money and or gear i need but am still broke something have to change in the ddo coin system and or give us more dungens to go in. Or give us the feats to make our own gear , pots,wands..............ect:D

Sorry, I don't agree with you here either lol. Money is too easy to come by in this game. Anyone who has run with me knows I have **** loot luck - I get a choice of at least 3 shields at every end reward (and yes I have class rewards unchecked) but I still sit between 200 - 250k plat on Mo. And I have never ever ever bought plat. Although I am told I get a 5% discount.

And if we aren't questing or raiding all the time to get the gear we want.. umm why are we playing. This sounds like the beginning of an argument for crafting which is a whole different argument then making cure crit wands and heal pots. It also sounds like an argument for more content. Again, all good arguments but have nothing to do with the original topic of cheaper stuff then clerics.

Honestly, I spend more money on my barbarian then all eight of my other characters combined.

With this train of thought that clerics are somehow owed cheaper equipment and such, we might as well make everything cheaper. Hell I know my barb would love cheaper repair costs, cheaper resist pot, cheaper heal pots, and don't get me started on the restore pots. Actually why not make everything free?

You see where this is going?

Anyway, just my own personal pov. Maybe you just need to reconsider the people you run with.

[Uamhas]

You could always boost your cleric's charisma (Uma has a paltry 17 dvs, Dallie has a measly 18) and put points into haggle, then get one of those +10 (or more) haggle items. Uma's haggle can be buffed to 35. Pure cleric. Cheaper stuff. However, I think I've used maybe 10 heal scrolls in months, and the only reason I've used wands is to reduce the amount of clutter in my backpack. My girls aren't the uberleetbestamest, I just love playing them. Let me say it again, in case someone missed it: I pug alot. That is all.

[Jomee]

I'm hoping the developers will see this and put in some SuperStores (Haven't you heard of the MegaLowmart) so I don't have to run to everyhouse to sell weapons, armor, clothing, jewelry and buy potions,wands and scrolls here, here and here but others there, there and there.

[setie]

I'm hoping the developers will see this and put in some SuperStores (Haven't you heard of the MegaLowmart) so I don't have to run to everyhouse to sell weapons, armor, clothing, jewelry and buy potions,wands and scrolls here, here and here but others there, there and there.

LOL.. i dont know i guess the dev's hate me i never pull or make much doing my whole day:(

[Dorthin_Othortin]

clerics spend a lot of cash because of one reason:

there are a lot of idiots that play this game and they....

A. don't know how to build an effective character
B. don't know how to play the character they built
C. just plain don't care about anyone but themselves and what they can get

as a result you have a vast mix of tanks that don't know what "trip", "sunder", "stunning blow" etc even are!

you have a vast mix of casters/rogues and even bards that think that having 96 hit points "good enough"

you have a vast amount of characters that never think defense, self preservation and the overall picture when playing, only offense, moving forward and wheres the loot!

throw all these factors into the big mixer and you have healers that spend a fortune just to play their healers

next time you're in a pug ask yourself a few questions:

A. Am i a burden on the party healer, if so, how can i reduce that burden
B. why does that one guy in the party never die, even after the entire party has wiped...what is he doing and can i get him to teach me how to do that
C. is my character "hardy" or is he/she a thin piece of lamb chop! if the latter how can i make a "hardy" character!
D. when was the last time i even bothered to care about my party healer that is keeping my behind alive?

there are 2 types of players that play MMO games: hardcore gamers and causal gamers

the difference is this: the hardcore gamer knows that he is not a casual gamer and knows the difference between strong players and the weak players, and why.

you wanna resolve the "im spending too much money playing a healer!" problem. here ya go......

DONT BE PART OF THE PROBLEM by letting slack players eat up your cash and resources! if a spade is a spade, CALL IT A SPADE! if you get a dud in a party and youre the one doling out the cash so that person can have a good time PUT AN END TO IT AND LEAVE THE GROUP OR HAVE THEM LEAVE THE GROUP! you may get labeled a "hole" but hey, which would you rather be a "hole" or broke?

sounds like the "being broke" is winning at the moment......../sigh

[Lizzybrat]

Hey Dorthin - has anyone told you lately congrats on that +3 tome?? LOL *runs away cackling*

[Dorthin_Othortin]

bite me!

[Lizzybrat]

bite me!

Bend over baybee :D

[setie]

Hey Dorthin - has anyone told you lately congrats on that +3 tome?? LOL *runs away cackling*

:)pulled one in the reaver 3 weeks ago on my clr ......fun,fun



And by the way i never said being broke was a big deal it's just would be nice to be able to get stuff cheaper being a clr without haggle,and **** like that...... and i am alway shy on the coin side because i don't loot very much and aways helping others out in need. my point got crazy fast..owell there will always be people out there that think they are god. i have got the best of the best in the game but will aways put people ahead of me the best way i can.if i want to spend all my coin on healz scrolls, and playing the game then i guess thats my fault just trying to make the coin system a little better sham on me..case closed thx for your imput.....

hope to group with all you soon


Leader of Elders of Stormreach
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