Ac. Who stacks with what?

[Cheg]

I've heard different things from different people, so i'm coming here to ask some questions...

Dodge feat and Chattering ring. Do they stack? I've heard people saying they do (+4 ac), and people saying they dont (+3 ac) Which is it? Will 2 Chattering rings stack? (My opinion is ring and feat stack, ring and ring do not)

Chaosgarde on top of that too? How about haste? And Combat Expertise? They are all dodge...

If i had all of them will i get +12ac?

Madstone boots and its +4 natural armor... Does it stack with barkskin? (I think not)

Also:

Barkskin and Seal of the Earth. I've heard people say they don't stack. I've heard people say they do. I've heard people say the Seal stacks with Ranger Barkskin, but not Barkskin potions.

Is the max possible AC, without background additions (Shield Blocking, Tumbling etc) in theory:

10 base
+13, +5 Mithral Fullplate (Armor)
+7, +5 Heavy Shield (Shield)
+7, Dex Bonus (May be +8 eventually)
+5, Ranger Barkskin (Natural)
+5, Protection Item. (Deflection)
+1, Dodge Feat (Dodge)
+3, Chattering Ring (Dodge)
+2, Chaosgarde (Dodge)
+5, Combat Expertise (Dodge)
+1, Haste (Dodge)
+1, Parrying (Insight)
+2, Recitation (Luck)
+4, Paladin Aura (Misc)

66 AC

Anything else fit in there at all?

[xberto]

Barkskin and Seal of the Earth. I've heard people say they don't stack. I've heard people say they do. I've heard people say the Seal stacks with Ranger Barkskin, but not Barkskin potions.


Seal of the Earth, as I recall, a ring with 3 charges of Stoneskin. Stoneskin is not an AC enhancement and you can be buffed with Stoneskin and Barkskin together.

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v294/CJGMURPG/DDOitems/SealOfTheEarth.jpg

+3 natural armor bonus on it. That is the part i was referring to :)

[xberto]

Oh, silly me. It does not stack. I've got a +5 prot necklace on my fighter and I don't even see that bonus when equiped with that ring, nor do I get a barkskin bonus.

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Hmmm, So your saying It doesnt stack with protection either? That is weird.

[vyvy3369]

Don't forget Protection from Evil for another long-lasting cheap buff.

IIRC you can get enough TSM to bump that up a bit with a mithral TS.

There's also the situational bonuses like the dwarven bonus vs. giants, since it sounds like your numbers are counting Dwarven AM.

Did the thread that went through the max ACs go away with the forum wipe?

[xberto]

NVM. I dont know what I'm talking about :)

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Don't forget Protection from Evil for another long-lasting cheap buff.

IIRC you can get enough TSM to bump that up a bit with a mithral TS.

There's also the situational bonuses like the dwarven bonus vs. giants, since it sounds like your numbers are counting Dwarven AM.

Did the thread that went through the max ACs go away with the forum wipe?
Well the thing with tower shields...

+7 dex bonus, means a +5 MTS (4 dex bonus) would need 3 TSM to fill its potential. The 3 of them are like 12 Action points. Add that to the -2 to hit, and its meh. It would give a total of +16AC (+9 shield +7 dex bonus.

However, a normal shield doesnt have a max dex bonus, so with +7 dex bonus i'd get +14 AC, and save my +2 to hit, and 12 action points. I went with the greater good on the shields.

[KaKa]

Check out this thread in the Guide section http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=115491

[bandyman1]

I've heard different things from different people, so i'm coming here to ask some questions...

Dodge feat and Chattering ring. Do they stack? I've heard people saying they do (+4 ac), and people saying they dont (+3 ac) Which is it? Will 2 Chattering rings stack? (My opinion is ring and feat stack, ring and ring do not)

Chaosgarde on top of that too? How about haste? And Combat Expertise? They are all dodge...

If i had all of them will i get +12ac?

Madstone boots and its +4 natural armor... Does it stack with barkskin? (I think not)

Also:

Barkskin and Seal of the Earth. I've heard people say they don't stack. I've heard people say they do. I've heard people say the Seal stacks with Ranger Barkskin, but not Barkskin potions.

Is the max possible AC, without background additions (Shield Blocking, Tumbling etc) in theory:

10 base
+13, +5 Mithral Fullplate (Armor)
+7, +5 Heavy Shield (Shield)
+7, Dex Bonus (May be +8 eventually)
+5, Ranger Barkskin (Natural)
+5, Protection Item. (Deflection)
+1, Dodge Feat (Dodge)
+3, Chattering Ring (Dodge)
+2, Chaosgarde (Dodge)
+5, Combat Expertise (Dodge)
+1, Haste (Dodge)
+1, Parrying (Insight)
+2, Recitation (Luck)
+4, Paladin Aura (Misc)

66 AC

Anything else fit in there at all?


K. How are you getting +7 Dex bonus? MFP is +3, Fighter's Armor mastery III gives +3. That would be +6. Now dwarves also have a armor mastery line, but I thought it went to +3 as well ( don't play dwarves, so I may well be wrong ).

All dodge bonuses stack EXCEPT for dodge bonuses from dupicate items ( NO chattering ring + chattering ring = +6 to AC, much to my dismay :( )

Other than that ( you've already said you don't want boosts included ) looks good.

[Riot]

Bonuses of the same type do Not stack....

EXCEPT: Dodge & Circumstance Bonuses.

Other types include, Armor, Shield, Natural Armor, Deflection, Morale.
In those cases only the highest value is used.

[Borror0]

Misc bonus do stack too.

[teddok]

If you had searched there are quite a few good posts about this and most say about the say thing.

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K. How are you getting +7 Dex bonus? MFP is +3, Fighter's Armor mastery III gives +3. That would be +6. Now dwarves also have a armor mastery line, but I thought it went to +3 as well ( don't play dwarves, so I may well be wrong ).

All dodge bonuses stack EXCEPT for dodge bonuses from dupicate items ( NO chattering ring + chattering ring = +6 to AC, much to my dismay :( )

Other than that ( you've already said you don't want boosts included ) looks good.

Dwarf my friend. Dwarf and Fighter Armor Masteries stack, so i could have got a +9 dex bonus, but that would have killed my other stuff.

[bandyman1]

Dwarf my friend. Dwarf and Fighter Armor Masteries stack, so i could have got a +9 dex bonus, but that would have killed my other stuff.

LOL, I know they stack. Look at the rest of the paragraph after the opening sentence, lol.
Your post asked what was the max possible AC. You included a +7 Dex bonus, so I pointed out if would be +6 non-dwarf, or +9 Dwarf.