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BrazenNormalcy
08-27-2007, 01:36 PM
Does anyone know if the Improved Turning Feat stacks with the Improved Turning Enhancement or not?

Usually you can tell if two things stack because they increase different things - Armor Class dodge bonus stacks with Armor Class enhancement bonus, for instance. But with the description on these, it's hard to tell. The first raises your ability as if you were 1 level higher while the second increases your level for the purposes of the ability.

I can't tell if they're describing the same thing two ways (doesn't stack) or describing two different things that produce the same effect (does stack). I'm printing the original text below, for comparison.

Anyone know for sure?


Feat
Improved Turning
Gives you the ability to turn undead as if you were one cleric level higher.


Enhancement
Paladin Improved Turning I
You increase your paladin level for the purposes of turning undead by 1.

Roguewiz
08-27-2007, 02:08 PM
Does anyone know if the Improved Turning Feat stacks with the Improved Turning Enhancement or not?

Usually you can tell if two things stack because they increase different things - Armor Class dodge bonus stacks with Armor Class enhancement bonus, for instance. But with the description on these, it's hard to tell. The first raises your ability as if you were 1 level higher while the second increases your level for the purposes of the ability.

I can't tell if they're describing the same thing two ways (doesn't stack) or describing two different things that produce the same effect (does stack). I'm printing the original text below, for comparison.

Anyone know for sure?


Feat
Improved Turning
Gives you the ability to turn undead as if you were one cleric level higher.


Enhancement
Paladin Improved Turning I
You increase your paladin level for the purposes of turning undead by 1.

They "should" stack. With that being said, I've got no idea. Turn, in itself, sucks for anything else except DV and maybe DL (Divine Light)

Level 10 Paladin, turns like a level 5 Cleric
With the feats, he would be counted as an 11th Paladin turning as a Cleric 1/2 his level+1, so, he would be turning as an 6th level cleric (unless they round up, in which case it would be 7th)