View Full Version : Top five, Blah who cares!!!
Gorstag
08-21-2007, 06:51 PM
Ok, we all know the top big five weapons.
Vorpal
Banishing
Paralyzer
Smiter
Disruption
All I have to say is Big Deal and who cares, they are common as masterwork nowadays. I ,myself, find the following five weaponsets far more useful and certainly tougher to obtain.
+4/5 elemental burst whatever of pure good/maiming/puncturing
wounding of puncturing
Supirior potency six or better
+1 elemental/alignment burst whatever of greater something bane
Greater spell penetration 6+
Agree or disagree with me if you desire, just stating what are my top five.
Jaywade
08-21-2007, 07:04 PM
I said this before someone told me how stupid I was..... wounding/puncting I think is the one of the rarest items out there even more so on a rapier..... I have a couple of vorps a gaggle of paras and bannisher's, more smiters than I can smite with 4 diffenet 2 weapon fighters but finding a wounding/puncting has been the bane of my game play....and a +5 bursting of pure good d axe or khospeh would be nice as well
I sure am happy to have a vorpal or disruptor in the vampire room in Prison...
And I have seen a banishing rapier in use on a cleave/gtr cleave ftr in Cry for Help and boy was that a fast clearing of the jariliths...
Never seen the marut DPSd faster than a good crit smiting weopon takes him down.
time and place.
Galwain
08-21-2007, 07:28 PM
Yup, Wounding of puncturing i think is the best also. I agree with your list completely, since that is what im outfitted with. Speaking of,,, lemme know if anyones trading Wounding of puncturing daggers and SS's. I have 4 daggers, and 1 SS currently, and need a few more.
gorloch
08-21-2007, 07:52 PM
Depending on where just about any weapon has a purpose somewhere. The one that so far has gotten the most use out of all my toons is the one my cleric wields. A +2? Cursespewing Heavy Mace of Pure Good. I still do damage regardless of what she is fighting, I don't take aggro so I am able to stand on the front lines having fun while for the most part mass healing, and I set the poor thing up for a faster kill by my fellow party members. Each of my toons carries a weapons that get traded out depending on the occasion but the mace is generally what my cleric uses.
PIXA
narizue
08-21-2007, 08:34 PM
To preempt Jundak I will toss out Weakening of Enfeebling on a Scimitar.
Jundak
08-21-2007, 09:19 PM
To preempt Jundak I will toss out Weakening of Enfeebling on a Scimitar.
Gah! Bastage!! :D
He's right, though...The way I see it, for every two points of Str Damage I inflict on the mob, I basically gain +1 AC and +1 DR/-...love my enfeebling weapons.
Jaywade
08-21-2007, 09:33 PM
To preempt Jundak I will toss out Weakening of Enfeebling on a Scimitar.
have a Falchion like that it is fun to make something tottaly helpless after a couple of hits..... it does own casters
PaintHorseCowboy
08-22-2007, 12:09 AM
have a Falchion like that it is fun to make something tottaly helpless after a couple of hits..... it does own casters
Yeah.
If you don't take a maximized and empowered scorching ray right betwixt your eyeballs first. (EDIT: In PVP. Mobs with max/empower? Uh, someone wanna pass me my nomex robe?)
Gotta love that suntan.
Bobbyd
08-22-2007, 10:00 AM
Who needs melee.... Finger of Death
No seriously, wounding/punturing is the only way to go unless its a red named. They work great after flesh to stone or hold, specially in the PVP arena. :-P
After that would be the +5 bursting of "name your effect here".
But honestly I'm curnetly addicted to my Sorcerer and find it hard to go back to regular melee class. Trying to level up my barbarian to use my rapiers is extreamly boring... I hope it gets better....
Anyway... did mean to get off topic...
Zarri
Scarsgaard
08-22-2007, 10:03 AM
my Muckbane... still use it even at lvl 14:D
Wotansdottir
08-22-2007, 11:23 AM
my Muckbane... still use it even at lvl 14:D
But do you DUAL WIELD!!!! That's an uber combo :p I guess the trump would be dual muckDOOM... which I still have to see ONE of in the game :)
Scarsgaard
08-22-2007, 11:30 AM
But do you DUAL WIELD!!!! That's an uber combo :p I guess the trump would be dual muckDOOM... which I still have to see ONE of in the game :)
My Ranger has 3 Muckies at all times... just in case one breaks lol
Velorn
08-22-2007, 12:57 PM
Ok, we all know the top big five weapons.
Vorpal
Banishing
Paralyzer
Smiter
Disruption
All I have to say is Big Deal and who cares, they are common as masterwork nowadays. I ,myself, find the following five weaponsets far more useful and certainly tougher to obtain.
+4/5 elemental burst whatever of pure good/maiming/puncturing
wounding of puncturing
Supirior potency six or better
+1 elemental/alignment burst whatever of greater something bane
Greater spell penetration 6+
Agree or disagree with me if you desire, just stating what are my top five.
How bout a +4 Wounding Khopesh or +4 Transmuting Khopesh of Shattermantle.:D :D
Mirta
08-22-2007, 01:33 PM
To preempt Jundak I will toss out Weakening of Enfeebling on a Scimitar.
Nah, got several of those and a falchion of the same. Wounding of puncturing rapiers seem to be less common even though their single effects are all too common.
Scarsgaard
08-22-2007, 01:35 PM
LOL... a good friend of mine who had just returned from a small hiatus asked me last night... "is 300k Plat worth spending to get a +1 Para Khopesh":eek:
My reply?
"A total rip off!"
His reply ":eek: "
And of course I said "that for a para maybe 10k plat (i'd give him one if he needs it) and on a Khopesh, which is a high DPs weapon... worthless"
Needless to say, he did not buy it:D
P.S. whoever is selling that piece of junk... I hope you get rich off it. If it were a +4 Burst of PG I'd have said buy buy buy but a para khopesh is such a waste...:eek:
gorloch
08-22-2007, 02:27 PM
But do you DUAL WIELD!!!! That's an uber combo :p I guess the trump would be dual muckDOOM... which I still have to see ONE of in the game :)
Both my rogues dual wield muckbanes, and I have to admit this is the only weapon that I have used since level 2 on all my toons.
PIXA
Harbinder
08-22-2007, 02:45 PM
Focus and Lore on a dagger or sceptre. Isn't there some named sceptre with evocation focus and potency? How about Focus and lore combo??:confused:
Dorthin_Othortin
08-22-2007, 03:19 PM
Ill have to go with the OP here, +4/5 bursting of PG is about as good as it gets with your normal everyday killing
just wish there was a such thing as +5 acid burst (insert all types) of pure good!
vorps, para's, banishers all have their places, like someone mentioned vamp is a prime example
but for the good ol beat down, imo, cant beat a fighter with stunning blow, wielding a dreamspitter (running with a caster that loves to cast flesh to stone/hold is the ideal situation)
you can con damage them to death and thats extremely fast, but the visual effects of neg lvls is better :)
MrWizard
08-23-2007, 03:09 AM
Ok, we all know the top big five weapons.
Vorpal
Banishing
Paralyzer
Smiter
Disruption
All I have to say is Big Deal and who cares, they are common as masterwork nowadays. I ,myself, find the following five weaponsets far more useful and certainly tougher to obtain.
+4/5 elemental burst whatever of pure good/maiming/puncturing
wounding of puncturing
Supirior potency six or better
+1 elemental/alignment burst whatever of greater something bane
Greater spell penetration 6+
Agree or disagree with me if you desire, just stating what are my top five.
Wounding of puncturing was always a top five item...
Disruption I barely ever use on my fighter as on elite most things save anyway...just beat them down instead or bring a good caster.
Smiter...always forget to use it...even on the marut in the giatnhold.
Vorpals, love to use them just so I can watch the 20 roll once in a while.....
My fighter just likes to beat em down.....much funner to use a +5 adamantine maul on a ancient skelly (only found one so far) or a golem.
lostinjapan
08-23-2007, 06:55 AM
my Muckbane... still use it even at lvl 14:D
My dual wield Muckdoom trumps your Muckbane. :P
Seriously though, I solo The Pit from time to time to try for more Muckdooms...if you're on Scar and I have a party spot I'll send you a tell when I'm getting close to popping that bad boy chest.
Tank has vorpal/disrupter/etc. Also has all +4 or +5 burst dwarven axes. No wounding of puncturing (slashing axe specc'd), but weakening of enfeebling works wonders when you're soloing. If they have no strength they can't do squat.
Ranger still looking for disrupting longbow/shortbow but has everything else. Love the wounding of puncturing longbow.
Still looking for a wounding of puncturing rapier and a vorpal kukri for my rogue...but she has everything else including the burst weapons, smiter, banisher and a few greater banes I pull out for named bosses.
My bard has Dreamspitter and really needs nothing else :P.
Renegade66
08-23-2007, 09:58 AM
Wounding Rapier of Puncturing for sure on the top of the list. Jellybean dual wielding those with a 13 crit and 40+ Attack Bonus is a thing of beauty. Ran Madstone Crater Elite the other day and had 156 kills compared to the combined total of 10 for the other two fighters and rogue.
The rest in no particular order.
I have a +4 Icy Burst Cold Iron Rapier of Pure Good that I think goes in the top 5. I guess an Adamantine version would be sweet as well.
Cursespewing Scimitar or Rapier of Smiting
Sword of Shadows
Cursespewing/Ghost Touch Bludgeoning of Disruption
Galwain
08-23-2007, 10:17 AM
I still want that rapier.....
Scarsgaard
08-23-2007, 10:47 AM
My dual wield Muckdoom trumps your Muckbane. :P
Seriously though, I solo The Pit from time to time to try for more Muckdooms...if you're on Scar and I have a party spot I'll send you a tell when I'm getting close to popping that bad boy chest.
Tank has vorpal/disrupter/etc. Also has all +4 or +5 burst dwarven axes. No wounding of puncturing (slashing axe specc'd), but weakening of enfeebling works wonders when you're soloing. If they have no strength they can't do squat.
Ranger still looking for disrupting longbow/shortbow but has everything else. Love the wounding of puncturing longbow.
Still looking for a wounding of puncturing rapier and a vorpal kukri for my rogue...but she has everything else including the burst weapons, smiter, banisher and a few greater banes I pull out for named bosses.
My bard has Dreamspitter and really needs nothing else :P.
I would so SELL all of PaintedHorse's stuff for 2 Muckdooms... you bet.. in fact.. next time you're running it I'd be very interested in joining. I'm also highly interested in focusing on Necropolis...
Here's a small list of what Scar my cleric uses...
+4 Frost of PG Warhammer
+5 Flaming Burst Warhammer
+3 Shocking Burst Heavy Mace og PG
+5 Cold Iron Heavy Mace of PG
+2 Holy H Mace Of Greater Gob Bane
+2 Weakening H Mace of Greater Orc Bane
+1 Shocking Burst of Greater Reptilian Bane
Green Blade (x2)
+2 Greater Potency 7 Heavy Mace
+2 Spell Potency 7 dagger
+1 True Law of Smiting Heavy Mace (looks cool)
+3 Banisher Heavy Mace
+2 Disruptor Warhammer
+2 Ghost Touch Warhammer of Greater Undead Bane
+2 Impact of Greater Elf Bane Warhammer
+2 Shock Of Greater Dwarf Bane Warhammer
+2 Flaming of Greater GIant Bane Warhammer
Storm XBow
+1 Banisher XBow
+1 Thundering of Smiting XBow
Lightning Sword from Reaver
Muckbane
Did I mention that carrying this much is brutal, but... you never know when he'll need something:D Add on all the pots, wands, scrolls, and trinkets etc and this toon has only 10-15 open slots:D
What item do I love the most? My +4 Frost of PG warhammer... DPs man.. yummy.
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Renegade66
08-23-2007, 10:56 AM
Here's a small list of what Scar my cleric uses...
+4 Frost of PG Warhammer
+5 Flaming Burst Warhammer
+3 Shocking Burst Heavy Mace og PG
+5 Cold Iron Heavy Mace of PG
+2 Holy H Mace Of Greater Gob Bane
+2 Weakening H Mace of Greater Orc Bane
+1 Shocking Burst of Greater Reptilian Bane
Green Blade (x2)
+2 Greater Potency 7 Heavy Mace
+2 Spell Potency 7 dagger
+1 True Law of Smiting Heavy Mace (looks cool)
+3 Banisher Heavy Mace
+2 Disruptor Warhammer
+2 Ghost Touch Warhammer of Greater Undead Bane
+2 Impact of Greater Elf Bane Warhammer
+2 Shock Of Greater Dwarf Bane Warhammer
+2 Flaming of Greater GIant Bane Warhammer
Storm XBow
+1 Banisher XBow
+1 Thundering of Smiting XBow
Lightning Sword from Reaver
Muckbane
Hey brother, I think he's looking for Top 5, not Bottom 30. :eek:
Scarsgaard
08-23-2007, 11:05 AM
Hey brother, I think he's looking for Top 5, not Bottom 30. :eek:
lol.. these items are one of my one toons top 30 lol... each toon has different criteria... and I suspect that the gist of this thread is that items like Vorpal, Para and so on are WAY over-rated... since my toon is blunt specced... these items are very nice (10% chance of crit often with a X3 crit)... and if someone else were to speak of their toons you'd discover their list would be similar to mine (but probably in rapiers or khopesh's etc):D
Jundak
08-23-2007, 11:13 AM
Nah, got several of those and a falchion of the same. Wounding of puncturing rapiers seem to be less common even though their single effects are all too common.
*snickers*
Tell that to every barb/pally/fighter that asks me to not use my enfeebling weapons in the pit..and they're using wounding of puncturing in the same fight. With few exceptions, they still die very quick. :p
Scarsgaard
08-23-2007, 11:18 AM
*snickers*
Tell that to every barb/pally/fighter that asks me to not use my enfeebling weapons in the pit..and they're using wounding of puncturing in the same fight. With few exceptions, they still die very quick. :p
I would be thrilled to have a Weakening of Enfeebling item... mmm yummmy
I'd also like to see items come out with "touch of idiocy" effects... mage killer items would be awesome:D
Renegade66
08-23-2007, 11:20 AM
I would be thrilled to have a Weakening of Enfeebling item... mmm yummmy
Take your pick:
+1 Weakening Dwarven Axe of Enfeebling ML10
+1 Weakening Light Hammer Axe of Enfeebling ML10
+1 Weakening Longbow of Enfeebling ML10
Your's for free Scar.
Scarsgaard
08-23-2007, 11:26 AM
Take your pick:
+1 Weakening Dwarven Axe of Enfeebling ML10
+1 Weakening Light Hammer Axe of Enfeebling ML10
+1 Weakening Longbow of Enfeebling ML10
Your's for free Scar.
Yo Ren.. the Longbow would be awesome on my new Ranger:D
Want one of my crappy items? lol...
Jundak
08-23-2007, 11:32 AM
I would be thrilled to have a Weakening of Enfeebling item... mmm yummmy
I'd also like to see items come out with "touch of idiocy" effects... mage killer items would be awesome:D
Been dreaming about a "Touch of Idiocy" and "Feeblemind" effects on weapons ever since these "uber" spellslingers think they rule everything in the pit. Takes no skill to Max/empower a scorching ray and hit someone in the back with it...Of course, these same honorless spellslingers can't hack it in PvE. They need they're tanks and clerics to hold the agro and heal 'em up. :rolleyes:
Renegade66
08-23-2007, 11:35 AM
PM me the name.
Jundak
08-23-2007, 11:45 AM
PM me the name.
Top five? Or all 30-something? :D
PaintHorseCowboy
08-23-2007, 11:50 AM
I would so SELL all of PaintedHorse's stuff for 2 Muckdooms... you bet.. in fact.. next time you're running it I'd be very interested in joining. I'm also highly interested in focusing on Necropolis...
Hey Scars...
You don't have to sell all my stuff for a dual wield Muckdoom. If you had it to sell, you'd already have two toons with dual wielded muckdooms.
How's that for a poke in the eye? :eek:
Scarsgaard
08-23-2007, 12:02 PM
Hey Scars...
You don't have to sell all my stuff for a dual wield Muckdoom. If you had it to sell, you'd already have two toons with dual wielded muckdooms.
How's that for a poke in the eye? :eek:
Whats an eye?
I'm a mushroom and you're just hallucinating... ***wwoooo oooww ooooww ahh oooow***
Spooky very spooky:)
gorloch
08-23-2007, 02:29 PM
I would be thrilled to have a Weakening of Enfeebling item... mmm yummmy
I'd also like to see items come out with "touch of idiocy" effects... mage killer items would be awesome:D
I have a wisdom +2 ring of idiocy (1 charge) sitting in one of my toons bank. It seemed so odd the two were put on one item that I had to keep it. :D
PIXA
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