Xorian Code of Conduct

[Perryc]

The following thread is an attempt to codify the Xoriat play ethos; I'm calling on all of my fellow Xorians to fill in the gaps.

1) Lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY. There are many ways to do a quest; your's may work. If you're in charge, go with it; if your not in charge, don't. If you don't like it, start your own party.

2) BE PREPARED. Having a cleric in the party DOES NOT relieve you of the responsibility of having or using your own Cure Wounds, Lesser Restore, Remove Curse, Remove Blindness, or other potions/wands/clickies. Also, make sure you have enough spell components and ammunition.

3) If you don't know the quest, DON'T pull switches, open doors, or wander around. If you are lucky, you will ONLY get yourself killed; hope you are lucky.

4) If you zerg, you are on your own. DON'T expect the party to bail you out. You went your OWN way (see item 1 above).


Pet Peeves

1) Don't grab the loot until the fighting is done.

2) If you need help, ask.

3) Greasing the party for laughs was funny once. ONCE. It's not funny anymore. Get over it. Move on.

[XFracture]

"Lead, follow or get the f*** out of my way."

It's actually in my toons bio. It is a code that I live by.

Oh, and yelling in your mic or typing "HEAL ME!" is really, really f'in annoying to the clerics. We see you. We know you're low. So st.fu or we really won't heal your a**.

[Dorthin_Othortin]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

and if youre interested heres the way things are done on YOUR server which is THELANIS!

1. Lead, follow or learn from both points of view

2. Be prepared! If there is a cleric in the group, expect that cleric to do his or her class job, unless of course you become unreasonable. MOST all clerics on this fine server have little if any problem playing their class and meeting or exceeding the expectations of their role in the group/raid. Its always nice to have a player around that carries his or her own potions for emergencies or for buffs that they personally like to have, but most groups are built well rounded and include classes that can and will buff you :)

3. if you dont know a quest, speak up and ask questions. if you dont know the quest send a tell to the leader of the party beforehand, inform them you have never done the quest but would like to join the group and join in the fun. This is the time for you, as the group leader to explain what type of run you will be conducting, speed/loot run (experienced players only), normal questing run (all welcome) or the Thelanis favorite roleplay group (duh! RP'ers only!)

4. be considerate of your group, if you are the type of person that likes to live on the edge and bite off more than you can chew you honestly belong with ppl of the same mindset! birds of a feather......but basically i will stick to the OP's rule 4 here, if you bite if off on your own, you better be able to swallow it on your own :) group is there to move through a quest as a unit, you being an individual isnt cute, nice or funny (unless that funny includes the group laughing at you for being that guy the village keeps calling about)

pet peeves:

1. Xorian server ppl that continue to post on Thelanis forums about how they paly, how they hate, how their attitude is superior to all, how they play better than anyone in DDO, how they want to force their ways on the Thelanis server.

2. Xorian server ppl that cast a certain doomy, gloomy light on everyone from the Xorian server and tend to drown out the voices of the very fine and very nice to group with other Xorian ppl that everyone is welcoming with open arms.

3. read 1 and 2 again.

thanks, and as always, youre welcome in advance :)

[Vardak]

3) Greasing the party for laughs was funny once. ONCE. It's not funny anymore. Get over it. Move on.

Nope, this is still funny. Especially at those critical moments when the overly serious are being... well overly serious.

[Dorthin_Othortin]

I will have to agree Vardak, casting the grease on the party member that thinks he/she is all that and them in turn failing their save not once, not twice, but several times tends to be funny.......even when its done to myself i have to laugh :)

[Perryc]

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

You don't, the tag line was your first clue, you chose to read it anyway. It's like a bad wreck, you just can't turn away from the hate. It sucks you in and corrupts you. Welcome to the madness.

[Dorthin_Othortin]

You don't, the tag line was your first clue, you chose to read it anyway. It's like a bad wreck, you just can't turn away from the hate. It sucks you in and corrupts you. Welcome to the madness.

i look at bad wrecks in hopes of seeing dead or mangled bodies /shrug

as far as sucking in or corrupting, sorry i dont, try the girls down on 5th and im already corrupted. welcome to the madness? what madness? the madness of Xorian and the fact its dead?

[Jundak]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

As many as you choose to read. No more, no less.


3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

Actually, the vast majority of the Tharashkians who have posted here have been in full agreement with the Xorians. Which is probably why you've had a hard time differentiating the two server communities.

Don't start toting your Thelanis banner when Tharashkians and Xorians alike have actually been working to integrate ourselves into "your" community. Remember...we were happy where we were to begin with, regardless of how much we may like/dislike what the merge has brought us.

That middle statement is a blatant slap to the face of both the Xorian and Tharashk communities. Just because Tharashk was quiet before, don't think for one moment that we don't have teeth.


really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

We never said that we weren't happy with the overall effect that the merge has had. I say "we", meaning us poor, lost, homeless refugees that have been thrust into your version of Stormreach. In other threads, these people you are criticizing have already voiced their pleasure over many aspects of the merge.

Maybe you should go read a few of them, before singling out this thread.


HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

You have poor delivery, not to mention that you are completely unoriginal. Try again.


and if youre interested heres the way things are done on YOUR server which is THELANIS!

Guess what, Sparky? When our servers merged, it stopped being Thelanis. Whether you want to admit to it or not, the server is only Thelanis in name, now.


1. Lead, follow or learn from both points of view

You don't learn both points of view in the middle of the quest. You do one or the other. Period.


2. Be prepared! If there is a cleric in the group, expect that cleric to do his or her class job, unless of course you become unreasonable. MOST all clerics on this fine server have little if any problem playing their class and meeting or exceeding the expectations of their role in the group/raid. Its always nice to have a player around that carries his or her own potions for emergencies or for buffs that they personally like to have, but most groups are built well rounded and include classes that can and will buff you :)

Well-rounded groups does not mean a thing. Since the merge, I've run with too many people who simply expect to be taken care of. Too many people expect to be spoonfed...mana has other uses aside from making sure some gimped build can survive the first five minutes of a quest. Bring your own resources. If there is someone in the group that will take care of you, great...then you have the stuff needed for the next quest.


3. if you dont know a quest, speak up and ask questions. if you dont know the quest send a tell to the leader of the party beforehand, inform them you have never done the quest but would like to join the group and join in the fun. This is the time for you, as the group leader to explain what type of run you will be conducting, speed/loot run (experienced players only), normal questing run (all welcome) or the Thelanis favorite roleplay group (duh! RP'ers only!)

I don't necessarily disagree here. But you had better be paying attention, once you let the PL know that you're a bit rusty in that quest. Especially if the leader is taking extra time to show you the ropes.

Again, I've run into too many people already that just run around in circles until they die...they don't listen to instructions or why something is done a certain way and they get themselves killed. I had a guy exactly like that in my group this evening...except he was bound and determined that he knew better than everyone else (could have been Thelanian or Xorian...no real idea). Turns out, he didn't.


4. be considerate of your group, if you are the type of person that likes to live on the edge and bite off more than you can chew you honestly belong with ppl of the same mindset! birds of a feather......but basically i will stick to the OP's rule 4 here, if you bite if off on your own, you better be able to swallow it on your own :) group is there to move through a quest as a unit, you being an individual isnt cute, nice or funny (unless that funny includes the group laughing at you for being that guy the village keeps calling about)

Glad we can agree on another point...except for that highlighted section. Could you please try and be a little original? Ugh...


pet peeves:

1. Xorian server ppl that continue to post on Thelanis forums about how they paly, how they hate, how their attitude is superior to all, how they play better than anyone in DDO, how they want to force their ways on the Thelanis server.

As you stated before, they are a part of the Thelanis community now. They have every write to post whatever they wish, just like you have the right to not read it. If you try the former, your panties won't get all knotted up.


2. Xorian server ppl that cast a certain doomy, gloomy light on everyone from the Xorian server and tend to drown out the voices of the very fine and very nice to group with other Xorian ppl that everyone is welcoming with open arms.

Again..you have obviously not been reading these forums much. Stop cherry-picking at half-truths...we have all, in fact, been getting along just fine (most of us, anyway). Maybe we just prefer to speak our minds full-force instead of skirting issues. And guess what? We get into a debate, agree or disagree and then move on...usually with a greater degree of respect from one another.


3. read 1 and 2 again.

I don't need to, since you haven't read a blasted thing that has been posted over the last few weeks. Your posturing is weak.

[Clay]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

...


a fine example of the Xorian hate you are protesting...

Where is the love and butterflies? ;)

[Clay]

Guess what, Sparky? When our servers merged, it stopped being Thelanis. Whether you want to admit to it or not, the server is only Thelanis in name, now.

never thought of it like that... good point.

[Jundak]

Where is the love and butterflies? ;)

*snickers* :D

[Jundak]

never thought of it like that... good point.

I've been known to roll a out a decent nugget every so often...:p

[Dorthin_Othortin]

maybe youre right, maybe ive only singled out the xorian hate posts and over looked the tharashk posts

and, ill agree to the point that this is a new server, with that said they should have been smart and gave it a new name, therefore not being our server that you were coming to or our server that they were coming to, but they didnt, they choose our server im sure for some reason and closed the others for some reason. holy run-on sentences batman!

ill give ya the village originality comment, but seriously cant we take all this xorian "hate" and xorian "our way" commenting and stuff it somewhere?

thelanis server is a far cry different from both the servers that merged with us, different and likable.

my point i guess in all the rambling was that we have our elitist runners, but they never made a big deal about being what they are. there are a good amount of power runners as well, but there was never anything made of it, certainly not so openly.

i dont see hate in these posts, or "xorian hate" to be closer, all i see is ppl coming to this "new same name" server doing some pug'ing and saying well, you just dont cut the mustard for our hate grouping! well, maybe you have yet to find the power runners on thelanis just yet, maybe you have yet to find the hardcore ppl just yet.

that and the whole "this is how you should group" attitude and the general idea that thelanis is a bunch of hand-holders or spoon-feeders just ticks me right off, theres, imo, no wrong way or right way, everyone has their way. mostly ive seen over the past year in pugs ppl overcome the grping differences and make the best of the pug or grp at hand

maybe i just take offense to the entire line of posting because i feel swept in under a blanket of sorts. and, with that said, maybe i have swept you all under that same blanket. the blanket of n00bishness (that is not a real word i dont think).

i dont think ive ever been categorized under that blanket, but in reading these type of posts it feels as if the few speak for the many at times and the general impression is we are all some backwaters, middle ages tardz and everyone coming in is the cream of the crop, best of the best, fastest of the fastest......etc, etc

see what im driving at?

as far as being sucked into some hate on attitude, i told ya up there, ive been corrupted for nearly a decade, corrupted by MMO gaming. and yeah i have my hate, but i have never openly pointed it out, cause i really see no need or point in it, until now of course, cause im a little ticked about the whole attitude and the openness of which i precieve it being displayed.. what is my hate for? prolly the same thing your hate is for, tardness in gaming. my simple answer to that however is just to put that person's name on a list and color the list black.

its uncharacteristic for me to get aggravated about something being posted, but really the whole blanket type "impression" was wearing on me. i just cant stand holier than thou.

lol, ill give ya the village comment again hands down though, haha.

maybe ive more clearly illustrated my point this time. maybe not /shrug

[Ghoste]

I think what he's missing is how the Xorian rants create a sense of community among the xorians. A lot of the talk about "xorians run quests this way or that way" boils down to a disciplined warriors mentality. They get a sense of community and belonging by reaffirming they have each others back and a system for that, just like any good army has. They get a satisfaction out of knowing they havelike minded people with a similar attitude watching their back. Nothing wrong with that.

And this is especially important to do at this time since events have given reason to doubt the stability of that sense of community.

As an outsider observing this whole phenomenon, it seems particularily appropriate to me that they were merged with Thelanis. Both servers were renowned for their roleplaying, just two very different kinds of roleplaying. Kinda like ancient Sparta meets ancient Athens.

[Jundak]

I'm not going to tear through your post piece-by-piece this time, Dorthin. There's no point.

We have met and run with the Thelanian elite. As a matter of fact, they are also usually in total agreement with the Xorians and Tharashkians. And there is a general mutual respect. Again, read the threads.

The comments made are specifically for those folks who refuse (or simply don't know) to up their game. Xorians and Tharashkians already know who, within our former communities, was to be avoided. Now all three communities have to deal with the imbeciles of the other two. It's not just the Thelanians...it's also Tharashk and Xoriat. And both of us have already come forth and said that we have our own fair share of idiocy.

What you are doing is taking constructive (albeit rough) criticism and placing it completely upon your own server mates. That is not the intention of these threads or posts. You (Thelanians) make blanket statements in regards to your players just as much as we do. Instead of taking offense, take it as a statement aimed at all players who need to learn from those of us who have got this stuff down to a science.

Sure, we can be abrasive. But sometimes butterflies are just not the answer...sometime it takes what Xorians call "hate" and what Tharashkians call "a beat down" to drive the point home. Don't worry...there are a few Thelanian voices that have reigned us in to a certain point just fine...but they did it by earning our respect first. Then they spread the blasted butterflies (yuck...). But we listen to them when we see them post something. And then agree or disagree, but it's always with a mutual respect.

You have to keep in mind that Xorians were treated with scorn when they arrived, so they pushed back. Tharashkians were treated as a bunch of friggin' noobs with no direction...until we started whipping a few butts ourselves.

Bottom line: Learn to live with us and our ways, just like we are doing for the Thelanians. And take what we say in stride and a grain of salt, if it doesn't apply to you personally. If you don't, then you're just gonna get caught up in a flame war that you can't win. I'm not being egotistical on this...I'm just stating a fact.

[Uamhas]

a fine example of the Xorian hate you are protesting...

Where is the love and butterflies? ;)

One lei made of bright, irridescent insect corpses just for you. With love.
But I ain't tellin where I get em from.

[Scarsgaard]

LOL.. I was about to go to sleep, when all of a sudden I bumped into this thread!@!!!

Hi Dorthin:)

I ran with a bunch of your guildies recently, and I was highly impressed by their cohesiveness and ability to work well together. Maybe you were in that DQ run or maybe not... either way I was impressed.

If YOU are taking these posts as personal... I can't see why. I never once saw your members quit in the middle of a fight to get a chest. Everyone was polite, skilled and team oriented...

..these posts are to illustrate to folkes that there is a certain set of manners, and skills expected (I might say required) to be able to be a good player. Read his post again... it's not about you nor a lot of people out there...

...but it is about those clowns out there who are self-serving squeegee heads that basically blow chunk... and if you read it a little closer you might realize that Perryc's peeves are most likely yours too... he's just vocalizing...

...mind you if this is personal... hmmm truth hurts:D

[narizue]

Gotta agree with you Jundak.

On Tharashk I knew who the good players were and who the less skilled crappy ability of crappy weapon of greater crappy mob bane mana sponges and dead end players were. Now we all have inherited the dead end players of two other servers. I was never that vocal on the Tharashk forums cause we had our own off site forums that I could rant on without fear of KK persecution and where I knew that many of the other solid players of our server would hear me.

Now there are a large number of folks who do not even know about the place I speak of and to have my point made clear I do post here.

As to the Xorian Hate, my spin on it is that the folks from Xoriat hate stupidity, complaceny and folks wasting their valuable recreational time. You know what? I think that any sane or rational person would.

As to the name issue, you know what, betcha if the OP was on the other side of the fence he would not be singing the same tune. Your server has changed. Mine is dead. Except in regard to the ties of community that bind the players from the Tharashk server together. Things like a distaste for complaceny, lack of improvement, and an unwillingness to step up your game.


As to stuffing the Xorian hate somewhere, why don't we stuff all the whining and snivelling about Xorian hate somewhere instead, cause quite frankly the folks from Xoriat that I have played with have generally been able to put their money where their mouths are.

[Lizzybrat]

I ran with a bunch of your guildies recently, and I was highly impressed by their cohesiveness and ability to work well together. Maybe you were in that DQ run or maybe not... either way I was impressed.

If YOU are taking these posts as personal... I can't see why. I never once saw your members quit in the middle of a fight to get a chest. Everyone was polite, skilled and team oriented...

Darlin' to run with The Band is an experience in itself :D
But umm, if they were polite? Musta been a different guild.
Mama jokes and teabagging jokes - now those are my boys..
I will even give them cohesive, skilled and team oriented...

But polite?!?!?!

[kensihin_Himura]

Everyone needs to settle down and stop jumping down other peoples throats. I know alot of people are still mad about the server merge and that Xoriat and Tharashk are gone. But the main point is that were all on one server now and we need to get along. Any old Xoriat, Tharashk, and Thelanis code of how to play is gone. On Thelanis people like playing their characters how they want to, I'm sure on Xoriat and Tharashk its the same too. People from Xoriat need to stop trying to make hate posts on a server where not everyone is full of hate. People from other servers need to stop replying with the same hate towrds them. We just need adjust our behavior and get along.

P.S. Grease is still a fun spell to use.

[Solstice]

Use grease was fun... in march 2006.

Is like new kids on the block or the new age... start nice, but after listen/see 3 times, this really s....

[Battlehawk]

I think what he's missing is how the Xorian rants create a sense of community among the xorians. A lot of the talk about "xorians run quests this way or that way" boils down to a disciplined warriors mentality. They get a sense of community and belonging by reaffirming they have each others back and a system for that, just like any good army has. They get a satisfaction out of knowing they havelike minded people with a similar attitude watching their back. Nothing wrong with that.

And this is especially important to do at this time since events have given reason to doubt the stability of that sense of community.

As an outsider observing this whole phenomenon, it seems particularily appropriate to me that they were merged with Thelanis. Both servers were renowned for their roleplaying, just two very different kinds of roleplaying. Kinda like ancient Sparta meets ancient Athens.

How very perceptive of you, we have never forgiven Iphicrates either. Our playstyles can coexist just fine, just don't expect us to ever give up the xorian way.

[Etrick]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

and if youre interested heres the way things are done on YOUR server which is THELANIS!

1. Lead, follow or learn from both points of view

2. Be prepared! If there is a cleric in the group, expect that cleric to do his or her class job, unless of course you become unreasonable. MOST all clerics on this fine server have little if any problem playing their class and meeting or exceeding the expectations of their role in the group/raid. Its always nice to have a player around that carries his or her own potions for emergencies or for buffs that they personally like to have, but most groups are built well rounded and include classes that can and will buff you :)

3. if you dont know a quest, speak up and ask questions. if you dont know the quest send a tell to the leader of the party beforehand, inform them you have never done the quest but would like to join the group and join in the fun. This is the time for you, as the group leader to explain what type of run you will be conducting, speed/loot run (experienced players only), normal questing run (all welcome) or the Thelanis favorite roleplay group (duh! RP'ers only!)

4. be considerate of your group, if you are the type of person that likes to live on the edge and bite off more than you can chew you honestly belong with ppl of the same mindset! birds of a feather......but basically i will stick to the OP's rule 4 here, if you bite if off on your own, you better be able to swallow it on your own :) group is there to move through a quest as a unit, you being an individual isnt cute, nice or funny (unless that funny includes the group laughing at you for being that guy the village keeps calling about)

pet peeves:

1. Xorian server ppl that continue to post on Thelanis forums about how they paly, how they hate, how their attitude is superior to all, how they play better than anyone in DDO, how they want to force their ways on the Thelanis server.

2. Xorian server ppl that cast a certain doomy, gloomy light on everyone from the Xorian server and tend to drown out the voices of the very fine and very nice to group with other Xorian ppl that everyone is welcoming with open arms.

3. read 1 and 2 again.

thanks, and as always, youre welcome in advance :)

I for one, and from Xoriat and have been playing since the beginning. I am very happy with the server merge and very sick and tired of my fellow Xorians talking S*&^ while we play with people. I've ran into a few bad peeps but I ran into the same problem on Xoriat. For the most part I've ran into pretty good groups of peeps.

Here's a pet peeve I have...

Fellow Xorian's that need to send private messages to me while in group saying things like...

1. Good thing there are mostly Xorian's here.
2. I surely recognize all the Xorian's here.
3. You can tell who's Xorian and who's not by how well they play.

Get the hell over yourself. We weren't the first to figure out how to do a quest, raid or whatever. We certainly won't be the last.

The in game tells like this just annoy the hell out of me. There... I said it. Most of you probably don't want to hear it but OH THE F!@# WELL! I'm sick of it.

[Rayzorlew]

Let me start by saying I LOVE THIS THREAD!
And.......I'd probably play with most of it's posters any day.
With that said, let me throw in my quarter of "calling someone who cares".......

First, I really don't know much about either of the original "TH" servers.
But from what I've seen on this new server, their are skilled and unskilled from all three.
Dorthin although I appreciate your hatefulness :D, I do hope you realize your server was chosen simply for its size ONLY.
They chose the four most populated servers, and then when thry dumped in the rest of us, they tried to keep the numbers even.
Makes sense....less work.
I too wish they would rename our new home though, I kind of like THEXORIASHK. ;)

Anyways....I also agree with Ghoste, Xorians do seem to have a close bond.
It also seems, as a whole, we are the meanest bunch.
But I'm sure each server has some of that too.

But the styles seem to be vastly different.....
See, there is honestly a reason our server was small.....stupid people left! ;)
NOT newbs.........stupid people.
That’s where the hate comes in handy.
See the Thelanisians for the most part, do seem to be nice.
And the Tharashkians seem to be split on their hatred. (Jundak feels the hate ;))
So unless your STUPID......your fine.
See and the Hateful ones can deal with the tards, in there own way.
Perryc's code is a great standard for picking them out, by the way.

And when I mean hateful, I mean (EXAMPLE):


3) If you don't know the quest, DON'T pull switches, open doors, or wander around. If you are lucky, you will ONLY get yourself killed; hope you are lucky.

I was leader, and the pugger just would not listen.
He ran off in the desert, having no clue where he was going, and he got encapted.
Then stabilized.
Now after numerous times of me yelling, "Release so I can boot you!"
He ignored me.
At that point me and a guildie were forced to drag a mob to his body.
Killing him......(by the way, the guildie was a cleric).
When he released...
**DING** (he gone!)
Sure I got a few tells, but I dealt with it.

Now to a "nice person" with no "Hate" (regardless of old server), that might have seemed drastic.
But hopefully he learned his lesson, so the "nice person" didn't have to deal with him.

[Clay]

Let me start by saying

... blah blah blah ...

I was leader, and the pugger just would not listen.
He ran off in the desert, having no clue where he was going, and he got encapted.
Then stabilized.
Now after numerous times of me yelling, "Release so I can boot you!"
He ignored me.
At that point me and a guildie were forced to drag a mob to his body.
Killing him......(by the way, the guildie was a cleric).
When he released...
**DING** (he gone!)
Sure I got a few tells, but I dealt with it.


that wasn't a PUGger, that was me! wah wah wah... all the way home.

and I wasn't lost... I was finding a new ... ummm ... shortcut!

[gorloch]

I was leader, and the pugger just would not listen.
He ran off in the desert, having no clue where he was going, and he got encapted.
Then stabilized.
Now after numerous times of me yelling, "Release so I can boot you!"
He ignored me.
At that point me and a guildie were forced to drag a mob to his body.
Killing him......(by the way, the guildie was a cleric).
When he released...
**DING** (he gone!)
Sure I got a few tells, but I dealt with it.

LMFAO....Ok that was funny. Jundak are you sure you weren't from Xoriat to start with.

Although I admit I have met a few decent players from Thelanis and from Therask I have heard many other horror stories including hour long PotP runs, 2 level 14s wiping in Irestone Inlet (level 3 was trying to catch free favor), and many other such disasters. I even admit we had a few "good players":rolleyes: on Xoriat, unfortunately our "Good Player" thread was deleted on that slight mistake Turbine had made. If our "Good Player" thread had actually made survived it would have made it easier for the other two servers to know who our "good players" ;) were. Now for the comment asking where we could stick all the Xorian Hate Threads, I would say but it might make you uncomfortable. :eek:

PIXA

[XFracture]

Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah... WAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

That's pretty much all I heard.

[hennebux]

mmmm...Hate, it makes my shriveled black heart glow...

[Scarsgaard]

Darlin' to run with The Band is an experience in itself :D
But umm, if they were polite? Musta been a different guild.
Mama jokes and teabagging jokes - now those are my boys..
I will even give them cohesive, skilled and team oriented...

But polite?!?!?!

Bah Lizzybrat... you were in the chains and wk runs...

Folkes.. so you know... this grrl sounds like a Morninggale... all sweet, and fuzzy and tinkly sounding... kind of like Oprah on crack:D

[Scarsgaard]

I for one, and from Xoriat and have been playing since the beginning. I am very happy with the server merge and very sick and tired of my fellow Xorians talking S*&^ while we play with people. I've ran into a few bad peeps but I ran into the same problem on Xoriat. For the most part I've ran into pretty good groups of peeps.

Here's a pet peeve I have...

Fellow Xorian's that need to send private messages to me while in group saying things like...

1. Good thing there are mostly Xorian's here.
2. I surely recognize all the Xorian's here.
3. You can tell who's Xorian and who's not by how well they play.

Get the hell over yourself. We weren't the first to figure out how to do a quest, raid or whatever. We certainly won't be the last.


BTW... I watch for annoying Grease spammers... I won't give you Hate, I won't do anything... and next time I see you asking to join a party I'm in... I might just drop or ignore you ask to join. Thats all.. nothing mean... I prefer to ostracize and ignore.

The in game tells like this just annoy the hell out of me. There... I said it. Most of you probably don't want to hear it but OH THE F!@# WELL! I'm sick of it.

LOL... Etrick,

I so agree... folkes from Xoriat... yes, I'm going to say this thing... if I'm in a party with anyone it is for 1 of 3 reasons...

1. You're a Guildie or a Friend...
2. You're **** good or have a rep and I want to see how you work...
3. You're filling a spot. If you turn out to be cool, skilled or a total putz I'll decide from there.

Know this. I did not pick you to join because you are from Xoriat. If you think I did, and you've never partied with me before or all that much before... well you're an option 3.:)

[Perryc]

Some observations about this thread.

1) It did not start out as a Xorian hate rant; it was (and is) an attempt to define a style of play. A style that was pervasive on the Xoriat server and existed to one degree or another on Tharashk and Thelanis. The hate was added later.

2) If you don't like the thread, don't read it. If you don't like the play style, don't play it. Simple.

3) All three servers had their share of 'good' and 'bad' players. I played on all three servers pre-merge with more than a dozen capped toons between them. Xoriat had proportionally fewer 'bad' players because stupidity and complaceny weren't tolerated. Neither were plat farmers.

4) The merge was a step forward. It means that there are more 'good' players to group with. Unfortunately, it means that there are more 'bad' players too. There are also more play styles. This one is ours.

5) Can we all just get along? No. Sorry, it's just not going to happen. That said, when we don't, instead of squaring off to go 10 rounds, we can each just go our own ways. After all, there is gaming to be done.

6) Back to the original post. Can anyone add anything to what I started?


I for one, and from Xoriat and have been playing since the beginning. I am very happy with the server merge and very sick and tired of my fellow Xorians talking S*&^ while we play with people. I've ran into a few bad peeps but I ran into the same problem on Xoriat. For the most part I've ran into pretty good groups of peeps.


I so agree... folkes from Xoriat... yes, I'm going to say this thing... if I'm in a party with anyone it is for 1 of 3 reasons...

1. You're a Guildie or a Friend...
2. You're **** good or have a rep and I want to see how you work...
3. You're filling a spot. If you turn out to be cool, skilled or a total putz I'll decide from there.

Know this. I did not pick you to join because you are from Xoriat. If you think I did, and you've never partied with me before or all that much before... well you're an option 3.

Amen brothers.

[Jundak]

LMFAO....Ok that was funny. Jundak are you sure you weren't from Xoriat to start with?

PIXA

Positive. Been with the Tharashk misfits since Launch Day. :cool:


6) Back to the original post. Can anyone add anything to what I started?

Honestly, Perry, I'd love to...I think you pretty much nailed every pertinent point for general group efforts. There are a couple of other tidbits rolling around in my head, but they are pretty specific circumstances with certain play-styles and group make-ups. Nothing that would really contribute to the OP.

I apologize for the hijacking, man. :(

[Whulffer]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

and if youre interested heres the way things are done on YOUR server which is THELANIS!

1. Lead, follow or learn from both points of view

2. Be prepared! If there is a cleric in the group, expect that cleric to do his or her class job, unless of course you become unreasonable. MOST all clerics on this fine server have little if any problem playing their class and meeting or exceeding the expectations of their role in the group/raid. Its always nice to have a player around that carries his or her own potions for emergencies or for buffs that they personally like to have, but most groups are built well rounded and include classes that can and will buff you :)

3. if you dont know a quest, speak up and ask questions. if you dont know the quest send a tell to the leader of the party beforehand, inform them you have never done the quest but would like to join the group and join in the fun. This is the time for you, as the group leader to explain what type of run you will be conducting, speed/loot run (experienced players only), normal questing run (all welcome) or the Thelanis favorite roleplay group (duh! RP'ers only!)

4. be considerate of your group, if you are the type of person that likes to live on the edge and bite off more than you can chew you honestly belong with ppl of the same mindset! birds of a feather......but basically i will stick to the OP's rule 4 here, if you bite if off on your own, you better be able to swallow it on your own :) group is there to move through a quest as a unit, you being an individual isnt cute, nice or funny (unless that funny includes the group laughing at you for being that guy the village keeps calling about)

pet peeves:

1. Xorian server ppl that continue to post on Thelanis forums about how they paly, how they hate, how their attitude is superior to all, how they play better than anyone in DDO, how they want to force their ways on the Thelanis server.

2. Xorian server ppl that cast a certain doomy, gloomy light on everyone from the Xorian server and tend to drown out the voices of the very fine and very nice to group with other Xorian ppl that everyone is welcoming with open arms.

3. read 1 and 2 again.

thanks, and as always, youre welcome in advance :)


1) Lead, follow, or GET OUT OF THE WAY. There are many ways to do a quest; your's may work. If you're in charge, go with it; if your not in charge, don't. If you don't like it, start your own party.

Start your own thread!

[Lizzybrat]

Folkes.. so you know... this grrl sounds like a Morninggale... all sweet, and fuzzy and tinkly sounding... kind of like Oprah on crack:D

Umm.. thanks ?? I think.... :confused:

[PaintHorseCowboy]

People from Xoriat will continue to make our "hate posts."

We have just as much right to continue our posting behavior as the rest of you. Just because we're not hugging trees, pruning flowers, and chasing butterflies, doesn't mean our posting style is wrong.

Especially, don't urinate on our first ammendment rights by telling us that we can't correspond with each other in the manner we had before the forum/server merges. We're comfortable with it. If you don't like it, exercise your right to freedom by not reading them and abstaining from posting in them.

Better men than most have died to assure that I can now take time to play a game when I'm not on duty flying my helicopter and acruing "noise complaints" from the local town by executing a mission to fly a missing man formation, precisely timed down to +/- 5 seconds, over the funeral of one of those better men.

If you don't have a fine appreciation of sarcasm and a thick skin, stay out of our posts.

[Arlith]

The following thread is an attempt to codify the Xoriat play ethos; I'm calling on all of my fellow Xorians to fill in the gaps.


Didn't we just do this on another thread?? I like an arguement as much as the next guy, but some new and improved hate threads would be appreciated.


Sorry, the butterflies mademe do it.

[hennebux]

Funny how it happens...first they destroy our server,then our forums,now we turn on each other. I for one don't enjoy putting down the next guy for the sake of it, but let's face it, more bodies in no way shape or form constitutes more players. I know from running missions constantly who's doing what.It's no suprise to me I see more Xorians guilded,starting groups,grinding,leading missions ,teaching,sharing wealth,overall getting it done....So you can lump me with those with the elitist, obnoxious attitude, just don't tell me I owe some noob an apology for not wanting to waste my precious time...

[PaintHorseCowboy]

Funny how it happens...first they destroy our server,then our forums,now we turn on each other. I for one don't enjoy putting down the next guy for the sake of it, but let's face it, more bodies in no way shape or form constitutes more players. I know from running missions constantly who's doing what. It's no surprise to me I see more Xorians guilded, starting groups, grinding, leading missions, teaching, sharing wealth, overall getting it done....So you can lump me with those with the elitist, obnoxious attitude, just don't tell me I owe someone an apology for not wanting to waste my precious time...


LOL Hennebux. Well said.

Just don't forget one thing....

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large quantity.

[Battlehawk]

5) Stay alert, stay focused and keep your mind on the mission your in, and the enemies your fighting now.

6) Watch each other's back.

7) Be prepared to do the little things to keep the mission moving along smoothly.

8) Good communication is better then the best uber-gear.

9) Leave the treasure until after the fight, its not going anywhere.

[Arlith]

People from Xoriat will continue to make our "hate posts."

We have just as much right to continue our posting behavior as the rest of you. Just because we're not hugging trees, pruning flowers, and chasing butterflies, doesn't mean our posting style is wrong.

I wonder. Do our newfound siblings think all this ranting is because of the server merge??? I mean, would they really have read the Xorian Forum before? I am thinking not. I wonder what will happen when they realize this isn't "rage against the machine" or "server merge hate". I wonder what will happen when they figure out that for us this is, well, Tuesday.


Especially, don't urinate on our first ammendment rights by telling us that we can't correspond with each other in the manner we had before the forum/server merges. We're comfortable with it. If you don't like it, exercise your right to freedom by not reading them and abstaining from posting in them.

Better men than most have died to assure that I can now take time to play a game when I'm not on duty flying my helicopter and acruing "noise complaints" from the local town by executing a mission to fly a missing man formation, precisely timed down to +/- 5 seconds, over the funeral of one of those better men.

/SALUTE!

[Grimlock]

What's up with all the whining and bi*#hing?

[Ziggy]

ill give ya the village originality comment, but seriously cant we take all this xorian "hate" and xorian "our way" commenting and stuff it somewhere?

Id love to but you see, they shoved us into this sub-forum after the merge, so we cant.:cool:

[narizue]

Id love to but you see, they shoved us into this sub-forum after the merge, so we cant.:cool:

QFT, QFE and because its too damned true and funny.

We are all stuck here together, and just because the server's name is Thelanis does not mean that I will be forced to adopt the conception of Thelanis playstyle, interaction style etc. Sorry not happening.

For that matter I won't adopt the Xorian style either, but based on what I have seen I was already in their neighborhood. :D

[Scarsgaard]

What's up with all the whining and bi*#hing?

Just so you know... I find your Biblical Quote highly offensive.

"And Shepherds ** **** ****
***********************
***********************
***********************
***********************
***********************
***************** Sancti."

I'm not going to read what you write. I'm not going to listen to what you say... I will only notice that you posted something that I personally find highly offensive, and focus on that.

P.S. I am not reporting you for "Political, Religious etc" but seriously man... no joke nor a lie... I find what you have as a quote/handle to be very VERY rude.

[incubo]

I can't say I've partied with any of you guys from the other servers. All I can say is keep up the good work, and if our paths cross then make sure you all do your job as I will do my best to do mine.

And there is only luv for Mo and Erda! If anybody has else to say in the matter can deal with me.

[Jundak]

I can't say I've partied with any of you guys from the other servers. All I can say is keep up the good work, and if our paths cross then make sure you all do your job as I will do my best to do mine.

And there is only luv for Mo and Erda! If anybody has else to say in the matter can deal with me.

I've not grouped with most folks from these forums, yet...maybe I should just get off my lazy bum and write down some of these names...

I've a feeling it could only make the game a bit more interesting. :)

[incubo]

I've not grouped with most folks from these forums, yet...maybe I should just get off my lazy bum and write down some of these names...

I've a feeling it could only make the game a bit more interesting. :)

Maybe I could do the same, by adding your character names into my already overloaded friendslist and make head or tails over who everyone is.

I think it would definitely be fun to just rip through Stormreach and smack down all the baddies.

[Uamhas]

Just so you know... I find your Biblical Quote highly offensive.

"And Shepherds ** **** ****
***********************
***********************
***********************
***********************
***********************
***************** Sancti."

I'm not going to read what you write. I'm not going to listen to what you say... I will only notice that you posted something that I personally find highly offensive, and focus on that.

P.S. I am not reporting you for "Political, Religious etc" but seriously man... no joke nor a lie... I find what you have as a quote/handle to be very VERY rude.

Isn't that a quote from the movie Boondock Saints?

[Jundak]

Isn't that a quote from the movie Boondock Saints?

Very good movie...but without the "-Boondock Saints" added at the end, it can be construde as a direct quote from the Bible. Which borders on pushing someone's religion on you...I can see where Scar is coming from here.

Nuff said from me on this topic. I tend to get overly heated when I get into debates of this sort.

[narizue]

When don't you get overly heated bro?

And luck on Jundak's titan end reward pull for the mod five launch.

:D

[Jundak]

When don't you get overly heated bro?

And luck on Jundak's titan end reward pull for the mod five launch.

:D

You'd think I was a fuzzy bunny compared to how riled up I'd get, my man. I've been a pretty nice guy, overall, I think. :rolleyes:

[Scarsgaard]

Boondock Saints is a truely great film and it in my opinion represents what a Paladin is, better than any King Arthur Tale...

... I hate the notion that a Pally must be polite, caring and oh-so-goody-2shoes... to me they are strange men (or women, thinking Joan of Arcadia) given a higher purpose that makes them extremely ruthless to the point of being single-minded, almost sociopathic. This movie epitomized the ideal of Holy Warriors doing what is right without concern for how they do it... that to me is a Paladin.:)

[Jundak]

Boondock Saints is a truely great film and it in my opinion represents what a Paladin is, better than any King Arthur Tale...

... I hate the notion that a Pally must be polite, caring and oh-so-goody-2shoes... to me they are strange men (or women, thinking Joan of Arcadia) given a higher purpose that makes them extremely ruthless to the point of being single-minded, almost sociopathic. This movie epitomized the ideal of Holy Warriors doing what is right without concern for how they do it... that to me is a Paladin.:)

Nice. Never thought of a Paladin in that light. Nor the Boondock Saints, for that matter...although that would explain the the Templars during the Crusades.

That's it, Scar. I'm looking you up tonight for a bit o' questing. Don't care what level or characters, but I think it's time to meet ya VC-to-VC. Curiousity is finally getting the best of me.

[incubo]

I'm down for some crucible runs, madstone(cuz we all hate how long this quest is) or if you really want to, PotP it is. Look me up, I don't have any plans tonight.

[Jundak]

Honestly, I may be running Taldyn this evening. Just trying to get his lowbie butt up as quickly as possible...I think Narizue will be giving Taldyn the full tour of the desert to rack up xp through Explorer, Slayer, etc. Hoping to hit lvl 11 this evening, so I can start on elite runs with the rest of the bloody server without the -50% xp loss.

We'll see what happens, though...;)

[narizue]

Bring your own healing dammit. And all your lootz are belong to me. :D

[binnsr]

Nuff said from me on this topic. I tend to get overly heated when I get into debates of this sort.

Isn't that why you're always afk for another beer? ;)

[Cowdenicus]

You don't, the tag line was your first clue, you chose to read it anyway. It's like a bad wreck, you just can't turn away from the hate. It sucks you in and corrupts you. Welcome to the madness.

I HATE THAT!!!!!

[Jundak]

Isn't that why you're always afk for another beer? ;)

Ah...ya know me so well! :D

[PaintHorseCowboy]

I'm down for some crucible runs, madstone(cuz we all hate how long this quest is) or if you really want to, PotP it is. Look me up, I don't have any plans tonight.

Crucible....?

Long....?

Amigo, you have GOT to come run it with us. We got it down to 20 minutes on a 2-man and if I'm not mistaken, Drac's got it down in the low-mid teens on a 2-man run.

Game on!

[gorloch]

Thanks to Kraak we have gotten this down to about half an hour (give or take who exactly is in the party). Generally we have about 5 for this but I think its more to how many are available and bored than not being able to do it with less. I myself need a guide. Just ask aound, my direction sense isn't exactly reliable. :D

PIXA

[Uamhas]

Crucible....?

Long....?

Amigo, you have GOT to come run it with us. We got it down to 20 minutes on a 2-man and if I'm not mistaken, Drac's got it down in the low-mid teens on a 2-man run.

Game on!

Dood... that's Brookiebutt you're talking to... he said MADSTONE is long, not Crucible. Crucible is just great good fun... Funny thing though, whenever I suggest it, people groan and throw things at me?
Note to Pixa: me too. Directionally challenged. Yup.
*offers butterfly lei to Pixa*
Welcome home.

[Wotansdottir]

Brookiebutt... I loves it... :D

Umm... yeah. Pretty sure there were zerg runs of... everything... before the server merge.

Pretty sure nobody in IFV needs to be shown how to do one.

Pretty sure Incubo doesn't especially :D


Erda <3 Uma!

Erda <3 Incubo!

[Scarsgaard]

HA ha.. you're all directionally challenged:D

[Wotansdottir]

God knows I am!!! I shiver at the maze in crucible, makes me go :eek: !!

[binnsr]

I let someone else solve the crucible maze.. I just stand on the I valve and hit it when someone says to..

[narizue]

I let someone else solve the crucible maze.. I just stand on the I valve and hit it when someone says to..

QFT. Me too. Unless some idiot decides that I need to do the maze.:( In which case we will be in there forever. I hate mazes. :mad:

[Luthen]

well, I hate to be the one to point this out, but your server is no more and got merged with the Thelanis server.

I mean seriously, how many Xorian hate, or Xorian how to play with, or Xorian ways, ethos, whatever posts do we have to read?

no really, how many?

3 servers names on 3 pieces of paper, 1 hat........your server name is no more, it didnt get pulled out of the hat......Thelanis did

Im honestly beginning to see why our server got picked over Xorian

btw, how many posts have been made from the Tharashk guys/girls? oh yeah i cant remember any because Xorian ppl keep posting!!

really, i think everyone gets a clear picture of the Xorian ppl that like to post, but quite frankly I have met some really, really cool ppl from Xorian that DONT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE AND ARE HAPPY TO BE HERE!!!!

HELLO, YOUR SERVER IS DEAD AND YOUR VILLAGE IS CALLING, SOMETHING ABOUT THEY MISPLACED THEIR IDIOT?

and if youre interested heres the way things are done on YOUR server which is THELANIS!

1. Lead, follow or learn from both points of view

2. Be prepared! If there is a cleric in the group, expect that cleric to do his or her class job, unless of course you become unreasonable. MOST all clerics on this fine server have little if any problem playing their class and meeting or exceeding the expectations of their role in the group/raid. Its always nice to have a player around that carries his or her own potions for emergencies or for buffs that they personally like to have, but most groups are built well rounded and include classes that can and will buff you :)

3. if you dont know a quest, speak up and ask questions. if you dont know the quest send a tell to the leader of the party beforehand, inform them you have never done the quest but would like to join the group and join in the fun. This is the time for you, as the group leader to explain what type of run you will be conducting, speed/loot run (experienced players only), normal questing run (all welcome) or the Thelanis favorite roleplay group (duh! RP'ers only!)

4. be considerate of your group, if you are the type of person that likes to live on the edge and bite off more than you can chew you honestly belong with ppl of the same mindset! birds of a feather......but basically i will stick to the OP's rule 4 here, if you bite if off on your own, you better be able to swallow it on your own :) group is there to move through a quest as a unit, you being an individual isnt cute, nice or funny (unless that funny includes the group laughing at you for being that guy the village keeps calling about)

pet peeves:

1. Xorian server ppl that continue to post on Thelanis forums about how they paly, how they hate, how their attitude is superior to all, how they play better than anyone in DDO, how they want to force their ways on the Thelanis server.

2. Xorian server ppl that cast a certain doomy, gloomy light on everyone from the Xorian server and tend to drown out the voices of the very fine and very nice to group with other Xorian ppl that everyone is welcoming with open arms.

3. read 1 and 2 again.

thanks, and as always, youre welcome in advance :)

Whether Xorian's are a vocal minority or a vocal majority there's one thing we are. VOCAL!!! You don't like our threads? Don't read them. You don't like us? Good. How many posts will be enough? The number is to large so don't bother keeping track. This is who we are. You won't change us. You won't get us to conform. We may sound like wise men or we may sound like idiots but we speak our minds right or wrong.

[gorloch]

We may sound like wise men or we may sound like idiots but we speak our minds right or wrong.

Can I take a guess to what we sound like the most. :eek: :D

PIXA

[gorloch]

I let someone else solve the crucible maze.. I just stand on the I valve and hit it when someone says to..

Pretty much all of mine can hold their own on the off chance an elementalist appears above. So standing there and pulling a switch is pretty easy compared to running around trying to figure the thing out.

PIXA

[Jundak]

Pretty much all of mine can hold their own on the off chance an elementalist appears above. So standing there and pulling a switch is pretty easy compared to running around trying to figure the thing out.

PIXA

Amen! :D

[Wotansdottir]

Whether Xorian's are a vocal minority or a vocal majority there's one thing we are. VOCAL!!! You don't like our threads? Don't read them. You don't like us? Good. How many posts will be enough? The number is to large so don't bother keeping track. This is who we are. You won't change us. You won't get us to conform. We may sound like wise men or we may sound like idiots but we speak our minds right or wrong.

It really made me laugh when in one morning i read two separate threads where two ex-Xorians were mewing, "if you don't like what I have to say, start your own thread." Starting my own thread was the most fun thing I've done all week. It's very funny that the same people who are saying what they want to say... then getting upset that other people are saying what THEY want to say, even if what they want to say is that you shouldn't say what you want to say... yeah.

It's that thing, with the thing, on the thingamajig, with that guy, you know, the thing!!

[Jundak]

It's that thing, with the thing, on the thingamajig, with that guy, you know, the thing!!

Did the thing get lost!? That must hurt... :eek:

[Scarsgaard]

It really made me laugh when in one morning i read two separate threads where two ex-Xorians were mewing, "if you don't like what I have to say, start your own thread." Starting my own thread was the most fun thing I've done all week. It's very funny that the same people who are saying what they want to say... then getting upset that other people are saying what THEY want to say, even if what they want to say is that you shouldn't say what you want to say... yeah.

It's that thing, with the thing, on the thingamajig, with that guy, you know, the thing!!

LOL.. I like your thread too... you might be surpised but us Haters don't hate threads... we just Hate stupid ones:D

Yours isn't getting Hi-Jacked because it is amusing, interesting and worthy... but if I were to see some stupid thread bragging about how cool being a crappy player is.. you can be assured it would get lambasted... that's the difference.

The reason why folkes see some of our cold, hard comments asunneccessary is because these people avoid true conflict. The truth is some folkes need a wake-up call.

I mean... who builds a tank that dies in every room in PoP? Who deserves respect when they can't act like a good party member? Who deserves a thumbs up if they're a total fool punk turkey-head?

What they deserve is a public flogging:D

Sorry to all those folkes who would rather say nothing and pretend it's ok, but to US it's not. In real life I'd give my 2 cents in a more vocal manner (and sometimes fi****l), but since all we have is the forums and a server-based mind we act through ridicule, and ostracization. Already we've acted against those fools in game and out who have interfered with our Guilds and our friends. People are being moved to the "they're bleedin awesome list" and "the don't EVER party with list".

BTW.. yer cool in my books:D

[incubo]

I let someone else solve the crucible maze.. I just stand on the I valve and hit it when someone says to..

The maze is the easy easy. It just takes a bit of manuevering and helping people get unLOST when in large parties.

I don't like leaving anyone behind, so if we are doing crucible elite, I let Sadira go first and clear the junk and I will heard the lost sheep and get them to the next place for a good fight, watch them die and clean up the mess again:D.

I'm sure with Plutonian, Jecon, Sadira, Shin and a few others I am not naming can blast thru the crucible with no healer and in near record time but have never cared to break records. We just look to get it done in under 30 mins and we don't use Beholder Cookies!

[Wotansdottir]

LOL.. I like your thread too... you might be surpised but us Haters don't hate threads... we just Hate stupid ones:D

Yours isn't getting Hi-Jacked because it is amusing, interesting and worthy... but if I were to see some stupid thread bragging about how cool being a crappy player is.. you can be assured it would get lambasted... that's the difference.

The reason why folkes see some of our cold, hard comments asunneccessary is because these people avoid true conflict. The truth is some folkes need a wake-up call.

I mean... who builds a tank that dies in every room in PoP? Who deserves respect when they can't act like a good party member? Who deserves a thumbs up if they're a total fool punk turkey-head?

What they deserve is a public flogging:D

Sorry to all those folkes who would rather say nothing and pretend it's ok, but to US it's not. In real life I'd give my 2 cents in a more vocal manner (and sometimes fi****l), but since all we have is the forums and a server-based mind we act through ridicule, and ostracization. Already we've acted against those fools in game and out who have interfered with our Guilds and our friends. People are being moved to the "they're bleedin awesome list" and "the don't EVER party with list".

BTW.. yer cool in my books:D


YAY!!!!!!!

[PaintHorseCowboy]

Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large quantity.


They will forever draw crowds of Xorians, Tharashk(ians? iites?), and Thelanians who will shower them with scorn.

Fortunately, they're stupid, so we can tell them it's a new form of rose petals and we're throwing them a ticker tape parade.

Enjoy your infamy!