///Attention!/// All your sigs are belong to us!

[Quarion]

As some of you have noticed, the forum signatures seem to be growing a bit out of control and making the forums harder to read.

So, Friday afternoon we'll be changing the requirements of signatures to be more consistent with the rest of our game forums.

The new settings will allow a maximum of 4 lines and up to 1000 non-BBcode characters. (Up to 2000 if you do use BBCode)

In the meantime, we suggest revising your signature to avoid it being truncated when we implement the new settings.


Thanks!
-Quarion

[Dariuss]

bah! humbug!

[Nimblefinger]

Blasphemy I say. Blasphemy.....

So I guess I'll have to "tweak" my sig huh?

[EazyWeazy]

Don't you have better things to do?

[binnsr]

I'm not a big fan of 20-line signatures .. hence why mine has always been only 4-lines.
It's surprising how much information you can put into 4 lines .. It's the 2000char BB-coded char limit that I'm happy about :) With links, 1000 bb-coded characters can be a challenge :cool:

[Darkwolf]

Ahh, good call.

Though I had to remove my Zombie (http://kevan.org/brain.cgi?LupusMortuus) tag. :(

[Beherit_Baphomar]

How many lines is mine?
S'like 14 or something.

COME ON Q!
DONT DO IT!

[Ron]

Hmmm, that could be tricky. Guess I have to start trimming....

[The_Cataclysm]

Few more lines or larger character count would have been nice, but I guess we will have to learn to deal with it.

[Nimblefinger]

Hmmm, that could be tricky. Guess I have to start trimming....

EEWWWWWW!!!! :eek: :eek: TMI, Personal Hygiene doesn't need to be discussed here! :p :D

[rimble]

Turned that crud off immediately after getting here. People sure are awfully proud of themselves and eager to advertise it.

[Kolvarg]

This is a shame. I don't think it was an issue and rather like the way most people use the sig.

I also don't remember seeing any posts complaining. I wonder why now?

Oh well, not the worst thing in the world.

I want my sig to live forever, so

Kolvarg Grimwulf
**Oppose not rage while rage is in its force, just hand Kolvarg an Axe and he'll lay them to waste.**
Member in Good Standing - Jester's Court - Khyber Server - Formerly of Aundair

Hooked on DDO since May 11, 2007

Characters:
Kolvarg Grimwulf - Dwarf, Barbarian, 9th Level
Kalandrik Elderwind - Elf, Fighter, 6th Level
Kalengar Arkenath - Drow, Sorcerer, 4th Level
Lofin Arownd - Halfling, Rogue, 1st Level
Thwack - Half-Orc, Barbarian, 1st Level - Hopefully soon!

[Blazer]

Turned that crud off immediately after getting here. People sure are awfully proud of themselves and eager to advertise it.

Sorry, didn't realize it was a sin to simply list one's characters.

[rimble]

Sorry, didn't realize it was a sin to simply list one's characters.

Just pulled up your sig, you're clearly not who I was referring to (simple and tasteful there btw), c'mon now...you know who...well, if you have your sigs turned on...I actually don't know who I'm referring to...but they know!! :confused:

[Blazer]

Just pulled up your sig, you're clearly not who I was referring to (simple and tasteful there btw), c'mon now...you know who...well, if you have your sigs turned on...I actually don't know who I'm referring to...but they know!! :confused:

I realize now to what you were referring. I apologize for my somewhat bitter response to your first post.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Done and done. Thanks for the heads-up on this.

[liamfrancais]

Ok fixed that I hope. Now about crippling strike !?!

[Albel]

Thank you, I've hated the long (vertical) sigs since I started posting on the forums.

[Symar-FangofLloth]

Ok fixed that I hope. Now about crippling strike !?!

Fixed man, get with the program.

[pastor_dex]

Don't you have better things to do?


You should make that your new sig.:D

[Mad_Bombardier]

Done! Thanks for the headsup, Q. :)

[Blazer]

DDOOOMM!!! <-- shortened for your reading pleasure

Heh. And ninja.

[sigtrent]

DDOOOMM!!! <-- shortened for your reading pleasure

[Shade]

I hate the long sigs allot and support this change. Tho it really won't effect me. im not a fan of sigs either way.

This forum has a nice feature that allows you to disable signatures all together. Something i've had enable since maybe a week after I signed up and noticed the trend of annoyingly long signatures.

Sometimes it does get confusing with trade post and ppl add werid stuff in the sig to make it make sense.. (tho you can still view them by going view profile)

[bigal4458]

Oh No! First a server merge to consolodate...then multiple forum maitnence and a "mistake pruning" of the boards....now a sig limit!!

Don't you see it people!!! They are downgrading and consoladating!! I smell DDDDOOOO......you get the point.

[Lillitheris]

*sigh*

[TheDoctor]

Doesn't look as good, but blah blah blah neway

[Shamguard]

As some of you have noticed, the forum signatures seem to be growing a bit out of control and making the forums harder to read.

So, Friday afternoon we'll be changing the requirements of signatures to be more consistent with the rest of our game forums.

The new settings will allow a maximum of 4 lines and up to 1000 non-BBcode characters. (Up to 2000 if you do use BBCode)

In the meantime, we suggest revising your signature to avoid it being truncated when we implement the new settings.


Thanks!
-Quarion

As the Guild Leader of "for Great Justice" I feel it is my responsibility to issue a formal complaint to your choice of title for this thread.

I also find having to modify my sig, which format has remained unchanged since I established my Forum account, also a reson to protest to this change.

[Urguloth]

Bah.. looks like my CuBunny is going to be squeezed in between a few things then, especially that Cube quote from a long-past interview with TTH!

[bigal4458]

Seriously though, what is the reasoning for this? "Making the forums harder to read" after allowing it for a year and a half is, IMO, a bogus excuse for being downsized.

We are a smaller game, and I'm fine with that, but to reiterate my point, "Just Tell Us!". You know, something like "As our playerbase has become significantly smaller, and to maintain profitable operation costs, we are downsizing our back-end and require you to all limit the size of your signature in order to allow us to maintain the current environment you now enjoy on these boards."

Really that's all we want. Deciet leads to paranoia and distrust, and many wonder why these boards are so negative.

[lostinjapan]

While I'm actually kind of indifferent to the modification in the announcement...I do have to ask...

Why do this instead of fixing and giving us the long-ago promised - and never delivered - character icons?

[Kisaragi]

Options that allow people to click on our name and see what characters we have.

Because there's no way I'm going to fit my current characters + my quote into 4 lines. I use 2 just typing in "What is Eternal? on the album Beethoven's Last Night performed by the Trans-Siberian Orchestra"

[Ziggy]

Well this is garbage.

So while your fixing forum signatures can you make it so we can use those avatar things?

[cdbd3rd]

Don't you have better things to do?

Well this is garbage.

I like both of these. SHORT, concise, and to the point. One of these will likely take a place on the first line of my new siggy.

"Easier to read".... *raspberry*
I like reading sigs. Some of them are damned funny.

[Coldin]

Well this is garbage.

So while your fixing forum signatures can you make it so we can use those avatar things?

Seriously. I could cut my sig down 4 lines with the character sigs in place. Please, fix it before you limit our sigs.

[cdbd3rd]

Turned that crud off immediately after getting here. People sure are awfully proud of themselves and eager to advertise it.

____________________________^
____________________________|
Aside from the snipe at the end, THIS is the only answer needed if you "have trouble reading the forums." Sheesh.
Someone apparently didn't have that measure of self maintenance.
:confused:

[Ustice]

Somebody set us up the bomb!

Sorry it had to be said.

I had a hard time when the sig got pruned the first time... Oh well, back to the drawing board. You do realize though, that without custom avatars we have a really hard time creating a personal identity here with a reduced pallet, right? So it goes...

[Dariun]

Hmmm, maybe I'll turn signatures back on. Haven't seen any for about a year...

[adamkatt]

I had better start editing now!! Oh wait nm..

[Vienemen]

well its 4 lines now...hope it fits the rest of the criteria

Hey least we get to choose what it is....turbine could have done "maintenance" and wiped them all

[MasterofDungeons]

Ah shucks, one more thing for people to complain about on the forum...

[cdbd3rd]

Ah shucks, one more thing for people to complain about on the forum...

Here, here!
Even MoD agrees - don't mess with our sigs so we don't have to complain about it. :D

[Symar-FangofLloth]

As the Guild Leader of "for Great Justice"


Somebody set us up the bomb!


We get signal! Main screen turn on! It's you!
How are you gentlemen!

[iamsamoth0]

Really if it bothers some that much, just as a previous poster mentioned, turn them off. It's one of the only free expressions we have here. I for one am against it. I would change mine but I know nothing about the coding stuff.
Find a better use for your time Turbine.

[Mizyrlou]

I had to... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE6emvdmg-M)

[Clawstorm]

IMHO you should leave the sigs alone. We can't add our own icons and I've seen some nice sigs that people spent time to make look nice.

Spend the money on content AND advertising instead of things to make people grumpy.

[AxeM]

Thank god I can turn my sigs back on.
I've had them off since forever because there hasn't been any control on them. Now I can turn them back out and not have to worry about them taking up 15 billion lines.

[Jerevon]

I totally agree. I mean look at some of these goddamn signatures! Are people trying to write an ad banner? Hell.

[Riddikulus]

Bah.

Anyway... do you think mine is now 4 lines or not?

:D

[Symar-FangofLloth]

I had to... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qE6emvdmg-M)

Nice one, but I prefer this photoshop-madness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qItugh-fFgg) (PG-13 warning)

[theblaz]

Truly, unnecessarily long signatures have been hurting my enjoyment of the game.

With this fixed, there's nothing to stop DDO from being perfect.

Seriously, there's no idiotic bugs still in game since like 12 months ago, there's no balance issues, there's no quipment issues, all quests are completely bug free; there's nothing at all wrong with this game.

Except for the DDO forum signatures.

Thanks, DDO team!

Do you think you can fix non-fantastical character names next? Because that's totally bumming me out in extremely limited situations.

[Sevann]

what does mine look like?

Oh. OK

[Katianara]

I turned off sigs pretty quickly. Something about having a sig makes people put every single one of their characters in it, a dumb quote, and ascii art.

I wish they'd just turn them off, no one cares about your sig but you

[Lillitheris]

There we go. Ugly as hell.

[jaitee]

all i have to say is WOW?....ive never had a problem reading anything before, and never seen anyone complain about it, and its now the forums are being NERFED, ole well nothing to cry about, just like any other nerf, ill cope with it and move on

just look at my poor poor sig :'(

[fefnir3284]

Hmmmm.... I thinks its a good idea. Just leave the sigs of the star players alone. Like Kargon (I love the song in his sig), and Ron (his links and programs rock), and Cataclysm (though I think he changed his already), and others like these awesome people....

[Spookydodger]

Really if it bothers some that much, just as a previous poster mentioned, turn them off. It's one of the only free expressions we have here. I for one am against it. I would change mine but I know nothing about the coding stuff.
Find a better use for your time Turbine.

I'm fairly certain it's simply a configuration change.

The person in charge of the forum likely doesn't have anything to do with the game itself :)

[~Chauncy]

:eek: :( :mad: :confused: :eek: :( :mad: :confused:

Done, but none too happy about it!

:eek: :( :mad: :confused: :eek: :( :mad: :confused:

[Hambo]

Can we get some kind of "table" format implemented to help better use the 4 lines? At least allow tab characters to be properly expanded?

That way we can list our characters in 3 lines.

[Furgulder]

why not simply limit sigs to 1 per thread?

[Patience]

why not simply limit sigs to 1 per thread?

Because unfortunately, that's not a setting that's built into vBulletin. :o

Sorry about your sigs, guys. We know it feels like a nerf to people who have long sigs - but overall it will improve readability (right now there's a big percentage of posts whose sigs are significantly longer than the actual content of the post).

And look at it this way - now all those people who turned sigs off because they were so long will turn them back on and actually SEE your sigs now. ;)

(And to reiterate: No dev resources were harmed in the implementation of this decision :P)

-Meghan

[bigal4458]

Because unfortunately, that's not a setting that's built into vBulletin. :o

Sorry about your sigs, guys. We know it feels like a nerf to people who have long sigs - but overall it will improve readability (right now there's a big percentage of posts whose sigs are significantly longer than the actual content of the post).

And look at it this way - now all those people who turned sigs off because they were so long will turn them back on and actually SEE your sigs now. ;)

(And to reiterate: No dev resources were harmed in the implementation of this decision :P)

-Meghan


So P,

What is the signature limit requirement over on the LotRO forums?

[Palmetto]

Because unfortunately, that's not a setting that's built into vBulletin. :o

Sorry about your sigs, guys. We know it feels like a nerf to people who have long sigs - but overall it will improve readability (right now there's a big percentage of posts whose sigs are significantly longer than the actual content of the post).

And look at it this way - now all those people who turned sigs off because they were so long will turn them back on and actually SEE your sigs now. ;)

(And to reiterate: No dev resources were harmed in the implementation of this decision :P)

-Meghan
Here's a novel idea, how about creating a darker division line between the post and sig. :eek:

[Patience]

What is the signature limit requirement over on the LotRO forums?

They're exactly the same now - we'll be standardizing a bunch of settings on the back end for all of our forums. It's been 4 lines on the LOTRO forums since the functionality went into vBulletin. Before that, the web team here actually hard-coded a 100px limit into the forums template, but that never made it over here (probably because I asked for it, and Spork didn't ;) ).

Also, I downloaded all of your post icons and smileys and we'll see if we can get them fixed soon.

-Meghan

[Tanka]

Here's a novel idea, how about creating a darker division line between the post and sig. :eek:
Or a brighter one.

In IE, I can see it fine. Not so with Firefox.

[lostinjapan]

Because unfortunately, that's not a setting that's built into vBulletin. :o

Sorry about your sigs, guys. We know it feels like a nerf to people who have long sigs - but overall it will improve readability (right now there's a big percentage of posts whose sigs are significantly longer than the actual content of the post).

And look at it this way - now all those people who turned sigs off because they were so long will turn them back on and actually SEE your sigs now. ;)

(And to reiterate: No dev resources were harmed in the implementation of this decision :P)

-Meghan

So...umm...how about answering the question several of us have asked regarding character icons?

We were long ago told we would have character icons for the forums. They never worked as they were supposed to and then they were removed entirely. Fixing something like this and delivering it as it was promised to us would help (IMO...and obviously in some other customer's opinions as well) those of us who have truly customized our signatures not feel so 'nerfed' by the upcoming signature change.

[Ziggy]

Also, I downloaded all of your post icons and smileys and we'll see if we can get them fixed soon.

-Meghan
our post icons and smilies?

whats wrong with those?
:) :( :confused: :mad: :p ;) :D :o :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

Everything looks ok from here.

How about our character icons in our sigs like we were promised way back when PvP was introduced?

[Drider]

our post icons and smilies?

whats wrong with those?
:) :( :confused: :mad: :p ;) :D :o :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

Everything looks ok from here.

How about our character icons in our sigs like we were promised way back when PvP was introduced?


I think we need more smilies, like the cool animated ones. :D

[Roguewiz]

4 lines for a signature is just fine. The people that start using 10+ lines need to be shot.

Especially since those people typcially respond to a post with 1 line or 1 word answers

<----guilty in that regard.

Personally, I'm surprised there wasn't a limit to begin with. Most forums have some form of limit (not counting the "no picture" limit.)

[Ziggy]

Personally, I'm surprised there wasn't a limit to begin with. Most forums have some form of limit (not counting the "no picture" limit.)
there was a limit. I hit it a few times, with the quotes i had in my sig.

It was 1000 characters or something like that. There was just no line limit.

[Lorien_the_First_One]

Truly, unnecessarily long signatures have been hurting my enjoyment of the game.

With this fixed, there's nothing to stop DDO from being perfect.

Seriously, there's no idiotic bugs still in game since like 12 months ago, there's no balance issues, there's no quipment issues, all quests are completely bug free; there's nothing at all wrong with this game.

Except for the DDO forum signatures.

Thanks, DDO team!

Do you think you can fix non-fantastical character names next? Because that's totally bumming me out in extremely limited situations.

OMG, do you think that that programming resources that could DDO bugs went into this? I bet you $5 that the forum moderator (who is not a programmer and can't fix your bugs) had to change 1 setting in the program and unclick "unlimited" lines and substitute a char and line limit number.

[adamkatt]

Hmm people with big sigs are trying to compensate for other small bits?? hmmmm

[bigal4458]

They're exactly the same now - we'll be standardizing a bunch of settings on the back end for all of our forums. It's been 4 lines on the LOTRO forums since the functionality went into vBulletin. Before that, the web team here actually hard-coded a 100px limit into the forums template, but that never made it over here (probably because I asked for it, and Spork didn't ;) ).

Also, I downloaded all of your post icons and smileys and we'll see if we can get them fixed soon.

-Meghan

Fair enough. Thanks for reply. Makes it easier to swallow that the step-son isn't the only Turbine child to fall in line :)

Now, how to clean my sig up.............

[Coldin]

our post icons and smilies?

whats wrong with those?
:) :( :confused: :mad: :p ;) :D :o :rolleyes: :cool: :eek:

Everything looks ok from here.

How about our character icons in our sigs like we were promised way back when PvP was introduced?

Maybe Patience is referring to the white outline around them?


Edit: Well, I'm down to 7 lines...

[Ziggy]

I think we need more smilies, like the cool animated ones. :D
The EU boards have all these (http://s136.photobucket.com/albums/q196/z2ggy/Smilies/).

[binnsr]

there was a limit. I hit it a few times, with the quotes i had in my sig.

It was 10000 characters or something like that. There was just no line limit.
You have an extra 0 in there, Ziggy .. it's currently 1000 characters. I have like 998 in mine right now, including BB-Code.
The new, 'smaller' signatures can actually be larger. We're now allowed 1000 characters that don't include BB-Code (and another 1000 for BB-Code)

[Ziggy]

You have an extra 0 in there, Ziggy .. it's currently 1000 characters. I have like 998 in mine right now, including BB-Code.
The new, 'smaller' signatures can actually be larger. We're now allowed 1000 characters that don't include BB-Code (and another 1000 for BB-Code)
Fixed. I thought it was larger then 1000.

[Mad_Bombardier]

The EU boards have all these (http://s136.photobucket.com/albums/q196/z2ggy/Smilies/).But, they totally need these (http://forums.gleemax.com/showpost.php?p=13430652&postcount=4) from the Wizards boards.

[Zenix_Leviticus]

"Fixed" it for ya.

[Rowanheal]

I thought Turbine was done ticking me off after the server merge mayhem then I heard Mod 5 was going to be uber late...

Now my SIG!

It wouldn't be as long if I understood HTML but I don't.

Anyone want to give the cranky girl gamer a quick tutorial in how to make this 4 lines? It wouldn't look so bad if I could move it side to side.

See ya in Stormreach,

[Shaamis]

Done.

[wickedzerlynda]

Don't you have better things to do?

lol I second this emotion

[Arlith]

Done

[In_Like_Flynn]

Yay, I can turn signatures on again.

[Rowanheal]

Ok, How do I move the "visitor to thelanis" script up one line it is centered but on the same line as the URL for the DDO podcast?

I can only take a tutorial so far... color me confused

See ya in Stormreach,

[Ziggy]

Ok, How do I move the "visitor to thelanis" script up one line it is centered but on the same line as the URL for the DDO podcast?

I can only take a tutorial so far... color me confused

See ya in Stormreach,
you cant do a double text alignment in the signatures(not that i could figure out)
try this___________________out.
(highlight between the words)

[binnsr]

You can't using alignment. Alignment is line only, not text block. You can fudge it by adding a series of text color black periods (.) or underscores (_) between your link and message to create the illusion of centering.
The thing to remember is that it's an illusion that fails pretty quickly at different resolutions than your own, however as larger will appear 'sorta-left-aligned' and smaller resolutions will wrap part of it (making a real mess of things)

[Mad_Bombardier]

Ok, How do I move the "visitor to thelanis" script up one line it is centered but on the same line as the URL for the DDO podcast?

I can only take a tutorial so far... color me confused

See ya in Stormreach, You can't using alignment. Alignment is line only, not text block. You can fudge it by adding a series of text color black periods (.) or underscores (_) between your link and message to create the illusion of centering.

DDO Podcast :p________________________________________________ _____________________A Visitor to the Thelanis Server

[Rowanheal]

Thank you guys *hugs*

It's close. I am at the 1000 w/ the bbcode markup... This means that I can potentially fix this tomorrow right? Maybe?

Sigh...

My brain hurts... BBcode looks like greek to me LOL

Massive thank yous for helping the cranky girl gamer:)

See ya in Stormreach,

[Mad_Bombardier]

Hey Quarion, any chance we can get Show/Hide (http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=906902) buttons for long sigs as on the Wizards forum? (looks like vBulletin to me :))

[Coldin]

Well, down to 4 lines. But really, do it look as good? I really just like putting spaces in between lines, makes it look so much better imo.

Edit: Took out my little flavor line referencing my tendency to /death a lot. Oh well...at least it looks better with the spaces.

[Nimblefinger]

Meh, Got mine down to under 4 lines. :rolleyes:

[Shamguard]

Turned that crud off immediately after getting here. People sure are awfully proud of themselves and eager to advertise it.

Unfortunatly it is the only way, after a year and a half, to connect your game account with your forum account. So people from the forums can find you in game.

I guess some people prefer to not have what they say in the forums connected to their characters.

[binnsr]

I guess some people prefer to not have what they say in the forums connected to their characters.
With some of the things folks say around here, can ya blame them? :D

[Lorien_the_First_One]

I guess some people prefer to not have what they say in the forums connected to their characters.

Or they don't want to have a long messy signature when it will almost never be used by anyone. If someone wants to know who I am in game and they don't already know they are welcome to PM me :)

I won't miss at all the long list of char names in people's sigs. I will miss some of the better quotes people put in their sigs for a chuckle.

Edit: Oh an in case you think I'm hiding in game I am:

Argo, Member of A Universal Mind
Ravensheart Clr 14
Gkar Ftr 14
Razeel Sorc 14
Zahadoom Barb 13
Zathras Rogue 4
Experimental Wiz 1
Whohasmystone Bard 1

[Shamguard]

Or they don't want to have a long messy signature when it will almost never be used by anyone. If someone wants to know who I am in game and they don't already know they are welcome to PM me :)

I won't miss at all the long list of char names in people's sigs. I will miss some of the better quotes people put in their sigs for a chuckle.

Edit: Oh an in case you think I'm hiding in game I am:

Argo, A Universal Mind
Ravensheart Clr 14
Gkar Ftr 14
Razeel Sorc 14
Zahadoom Barb 13
Zathras Rogue 4
Experimental Wiz 1
Whohasmystone Bard 1


You can still get the same amount of junk into the sig. It's just harder to read. and remember my favorite quote:

"Things happen for one of two reasons; They are ba$t**ds and hate you, or you are a f**king idiot. We like it to be the first, but it is probably the second." P.Burton

[DaveyCrockett]

There.. I am now compliant :D

[Riddikulus]

There.. I am now compliant :D
Heh, I believe I am compliant as well; we'll see how they count "lines".

And at least you can read mine... yours hurt my eyes.

[Mad_Bombardier]

I'd just like to point out that this shortening measure in no way fixes the problem. I am already seeing posters adding their list of characters to each post (easy copy/paste from text doc).


"I pwnd ur sig rulz!"

GooberFighter level 10
GooberWizard level 5
GooberBarbarian level 14
GooberCleric level 1
GooberFighter2 level 1
Retiredmule #43
Retiredmule #72
RetiredHagglebot (**** you Price Warfare nerf)
Umpteenthbillion alt
Umpteenthbillion and one alt
Umpteenthbillion and two alt
Umpteenthbillion and three alt
Umpteenthbillion and four alt
Umpteenthbillion and five alt

[Riddikulus]

Heh, I believe I am compliant as well; we'll see how they count "lines".

And at least you can read mine... yours hurt my eyes.
Heh... they're after me.

You can't use [code] anymore.
(or at least I can't anymore) :D

[Riddikulus]

Heh... they're after me.

You can't use [code] anymore.
(or at least I can't anymore) :D

OK not being able to use [code] sucks... how can you get them spaced out properly? It ignores spaces and the [left] [right]
don't allow you to do more than one per line. :p

[CENTER]Khyber - Deities and Demigods
Sil - Human Paladin 14 Tad - Drow Wizard 14
Semolina - Elf Rogue 13/Fighter 1 Durum - Dwarf Ftr10/Pal3/Rng1
Riddikulus - Human Cleric 14 Ridd - Dwarf Ftr6/Rog2/Pal2

[Mad_Bombardier]

Try adding a symbol in between to force centering (had to add a black font ~ to the end of middle character line to equalize characters left and right of center).

Khyber - Deities and Demigods
Sil - Human Paladin 14 ~ Tad - Drow Wizard 14
Semolina - Elf Rogue 13/Fighter 1 ~ Durum - Dwarf Ftr10/Pal3/Rng1~
Riddikulus - Human Cleric 14 ~ Ridd - Dwarf Ftr6/Rog2/Pal2

[Ziggy]

OK not being able to use [code] sucks... how can you get them spaced out properly? It ignores spaces and the [left] [right]
don't allow you to do more than one per line. :p




[CENTER]Khyber - Deities and Demigods

Sil - Human Paladin 14 Tad - Drow Wizard 14
Semolina - Elf Rogue 13/Fighter 1 Durum - Dwarf Ftr10/Pal3/Rng1
Riddikulus - Human Cleric 14 Ridd - Dwarf Ftr6/Rog2/Pal2

Yeah can we at least get some of this signature stuff fixed before you decide to remove our capabilities for good looking signatures.

[Riddikulus]

Try adding a symbol in between to force centering (had to add a black font ~ to the end of middle character line to equalize characters left and right of center).
Thanks... It's not great, but it's compliant again.

[Quarion]

We havent touched any settings on signatures yet. BBCode should still work, and we're not planning on turning it off. If theres a problem, I can look into it though. When did it stop working?

[Dark_Vengeance]

Sorry, didn't realize it was a sin to simply list one's characters.

"Sorry, didn't realize a couple quotes were such a big deal"

"Sorry, didn't realize a link to a dev thread on an important issue was a big deal"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to list my proudest accomplishments"

"Sorry didn't realize it was a big deal to advertise my guild"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to advertise my DDO-related website"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to make a personal statement about a controversial issue/bug/dev topic"

"Sorry, didn't realize a catchphrase was such a big deal"

The answer is that none of these are a big deal (in and of themselves) if done within reason. However, if you insist on doing ALL OF THE ABOVE, including details on 20 characters spread over 3 servers...that's a tad excessive.

As a rule of thumb, look at your average posts. If your sig is longer than your posts more than 25% of the time, your sig is too long.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............. <---not even a sig, just a signoff

[Rickpa]

Gone is my list of characters and their progression.

They have been replaced by the one thing that we can reasonably expect.




Impermanence

[Nataichal]

Wow Rickpa. Bit of a turn to the dramatic, don't you think?

I seem to have fit a fair bit of info in my new sig. Only removed one thing....

GIVE US DISPLACER BEASTS!

[Ziggy]

"Sorry, didn't realize a couple quotes were such a big deal"

"Sorry, didn't realize a link to a dev thread on an important issue was a big deal"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to list my proudest accomplishments"

"Sorry didn't realize it was a big deal to advertise my guild"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to advertise my DDO-related website"

"Sorry, didn't realize it was such a big deal to make a personal statement about a controversial issue/bug/dev topic"

"Sorry, didn't realize a catchphrase was such a big deal"

The answer is that none of these are a big deal (in and of themselves) if done within reason. However, if you insist on doing ALL OF THE ABOVE, including details on 20 characters spread over 3 servers...that's a tad excessive.

As a rule of thumb, look at your average posts. If your sig is longer than your posts more than 25% of the time, your sig is too long.

Bring the noise.
Cheers.............. <---not even a sig, just a signoff
what about 3? is 3 ok oh mighty one(tongue in cheek).:D

[Mad_Bombardier]

We havent touched any settings on signatures yet. BBCode should still work, and we're not planning on turning it off. If theres a problem, I can look into it though. When did it stop working?Not sure which if any I can change, but here is the list from the bottom of my Edit Signature page. Appropriately, there are no icon quick buttons for quote, code, or html.

Signature Permissions
Allow Basic BBCode Yes
Allow Color BBCode Yes
Allow Size BBCode No
Allow Font BBCode Yes
Allow Alignment BBCode Yes
Allow List BBCode Yes
Allow Link BBCode Yes
Allow Code BBCode No
Allow PHP BBCode No
Allow HTML BBCode No
Allow Quote BBCode No
Allow HTML No
Allow Smilies Yes
Allow [IMG] Code No
Can Upload Images for Signature No
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature Yes

[Ziggy]

Not sure which if any I can change, but here is the list from the bottom of my Edit Signature page. Appropriately, there are no icon quick buttons for quote, code, or html.

Signature Permissions
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature Yes

Hey how come mad can do this but mine says no?

[Ziggy]

Well someone changed these:

Allow Code BBCode No
Allow PHP BBCode No
Allow HTML BBCode No
Allow Quote BBCode No

Since my original post which was using [code] in my sig here: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1299374&postcount=49

So it changed sometime in the last 16 hours.
Heres what mine looks like



Allow Basic BBCode Yes
Allow Color BBCode Yes
Allow Size BBCode No
Allow Font BBCode Yes

Allow Alignment BBCode Yes
Allow List BBCode Yes
Allow Link BBCode Yes
Allow Code BBCode Yes

Allow PHP BBCode Yes
Allow HTML BBCode Yes
Allow Quote BBCode Yes
Allow HTML No

Allow Smilies Yes
Allow [IMG] Code No
Can Upload Images for Signature No
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature No



EDIT: Ninja

[Riddikulus]

We havent touched any settings on signatures yet. BBCode should still work, and we're not planning on turning it off. If theres a problem, I can look into it though. When did it stop working?
Well someone changed these:

Allow Code BBCode No
Allow PHP BBCode No
Allow HTML BBCode No
Allow Quote BBCode No

Since my original post which was using [code] in my sig here: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1299374&postcount=49

So it changed sometime in the last 16 hours.

Not like it's a big deal or anything... my sig was pretty obnoxiously long with 3 code tags in it.

[DZX]

Since we are doing forum tweaks how about some new avatars to pick from? Or perhaps the ability to set custom avatars based on how long someone has been registered?

[Ziggy]

Since we are doing forum tweaks how about some new avatars to pick from? Or perhaps the ability to set custom avatars based on how long someone has been registered?
how about just the ability to send Someone at turbine an already set up avatar and be able to use it.

[Coldin]

Hey how come mad can do this but mine says no?

Another example of Founders having less abilities than regular community members?

[Ziggy]

Last time I checked, the new allowance is 4 lines. If 25% of your posts are 4 lines or less, perhaps you should consider waiting until you actually have something to say before posting.

I meant with the old rules silly.


Either that, or shorten your sig. Why should I care what level your 7th alt on Argonesson is doing, or what guild your 5th alt on Thelanis is in, if you spend most of your time spouting one liners?

Bring the noise.
Cheers............
Its very rare i spout one-liners.:cool:

EDIT: Ninjas dont spout one liners normally.

[Dark_Vengeance]

what about 3? is 3 ok oh mighty one(tongue in cheek).:D

Last time I checked, the new allowance is 4 lines. If 25% of your posts are 4 lines or less, perhaps you should consider waiting until you actually have something to say before posting.

Either that, or shorten your sig. Why should I care what level your 7th alt on Argonesson is, how much favor your 3rd alt on Khyber has earned, or what guild your 5th alt on Thelanis is in, if you spend most of your time spouting one liners?

Bring the noise.
Cheers............

[Riddikulus]

Heres what mine looks like



Allow Basic BBCode Yes
Allow Color BBCode Yes
Allow Size BBCode No
Allow Font BBCode Yes

Allow Alignment BBCode Yes
Allow List BBCode Yes
Allow Link BBCode Yes
Allow Code BBCode Yes

Allow PHP BBCode Yes
Allow HTML BBCode Yes
Allow Quote BBCode Yes
Allow HTML No

Allow Smilies Yes
Allow [IMG] Code No
Can Upload Images for Signature No
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature No



EDIT: Ninja

Heh. So they _are_ out to get me.

/em makes new tinfoil hat and puts it on

Put a code tag in your sig and see how long you keep that privilege :D

[MathGeek]

Here's a novel idea, how about creating a darker division line between the post and sig. :eek:


Or a brighter one.

In IE, I can see it fine. Not so with Firefox.

Wow - I didn't even know there was a division line between the post and the signature. I hadn't tried the forums under IE. Learn something new everyday.

[Coldin]

You know Ziggy, with that mean smiley face in your sig, it makes all your posts look angry.

[The_Cataclysm]

You know Ziggy, with that mean smiley face in your sig, it makes all your posts look angry.

You mean all his posts aren't angry?

[Coldin]

You mean all his posts aren't angry?

Well I'd hope not. But I suppose he is from Xoriat. :)

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Heres what mine looks like



Allow Basic BBCode Yes
Allow Color BBCode Yes
Allow Size BBCode No
Allow Font BBCode Yes

Allow Alignment BBCode Yes
Allow List BBCode Yes
Allow Link BBCode Yes
Allow Code BBCode Yes

Allow PHP BBCode Yes
Allow HTML BBCode Yes
Allow Quote BBCode Yes
Allow HTML No

Allow Smilies Yes
Allow [IMG] Code No
Can Upload Images for Signature No
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature No



EDIT: Ninja

Allow Basic BBCode Yes
Allow Color BBCode Yes
Allow Size BBCode No
Allow Font BBCode Yes
Allow Alignment BBCode Yes
Allow List BBCode Yes
Allow Link BBCode Yes
Allow Code BBCode No
Allow PHP BBCode No
Allow HTML BBCode No
Allow Quote BBCode No
Allow HTML NoAllow Smilies Yes
Allow [IMG] Code No
Can Upload Images for Signature No
Can Upload Animated GIF for Signature Yes

How come we all have different rules then?

[Riddikulus]

How come we all have different rules then?
Because you and I are on the "bad" list. Ziggy is on the "good" list.

[Arlith]

So, after about 35 seconds of thought, I have solved the great signature purge riddle. I cut it out, pasted my sig to a txt file and when they neuter the sigs, I will just paste it in the message itself. More time consuming, but very satisfying.

[Ziggy]

Because you and I are on the "bad" list. Ziggy is on the "good" list.
Then why can he upload animated gifs to his signature and i cant?

[iamsamoth0]

I'd just like to point out that this shortening measure in no way fixes the problem. I am already seeing posters adding their list of characters to each post (easy copy/paste from text doc).


"I pwnd ur sig rulz!"

GooberFighter level 10
GooberWizard level 5
GooberBarbarian level 14
GooberCleric level 1
GooberFighter2 level 1
Retiredmule #43
Retiredmule #72
RetiredHagglebot (**** you Price Warfare nerf)
Umpteenthbillion alt
Umpteenthbillion and one alt
Umpteenthbillion and two alt
Umpteenthbillion and three alt
Umpteenthbillion and four alt
Umpteenthbillion and five alt

That was good stuff, Mad. That was one of my favorite lines from the now 'defunct' sigs thread, from a month or two ago. I had wanted to quote it.

This conversation has taken a funny twist. As well as brings up some good points, what will they do if people paste in there sig, are they gonna ban someone for 'pasting'?
On the other hand, I am at least as incapable as Rowanheal, more so I am sure. And would appreciate any advice to make my sig compliant.
See below train wreck.

V V V V V V

[Kilgore61]

Because unfortunately, that's not a setting that's built into vBulletin. :o

Sorry about your sigs, guys. We know it feels like a nerf to people who have long sigs - but overall it will improve readability (right now there's a big percentage of posts whose sigs are significantly longer than the actual content of the post).

And look at it this way - now all those people who turned sigs off because they were so long will turn them back on and actually SEE your sigs now. ;)

(And to reiterate: No dev resources were harmed in the implementation of this decision :P)

-Meghan

I'm sorry, but you have lost me.

Even accepting the proposition that the forums are not legible due to sig bloat, an assertion I have not noticed, I don't see how you reached this decision. As you state, people can turn off the sigs. If someone finds them bothersome, they already have the option of removing them.

Why would you want to anger so many community members for such a marginal and manageable issue?

[Patience]

Well someone changed these:

Allow Code BBCode No
Allow PHP BBCode No
Allow HTML BBCode No
Allow Quote BBCode No

Since my original post which was using [code] in my sig here: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1299374&postcount=49

So it changed sometime in the last 16 hours.

Not like it's a big deal or anything... my sig was pretty obnoxiously long with 3 code tags in it.

That was me, and I've since turned PHP off for Founders too. PHP (and to a lesser degree HTML) are pretty risky things to allow on forums, ya know?

The Code option is going to be fairly useless unless you do a completely plain text sig because it doesn't allow any formatting like color or alignment, but that can be turned back on if you guys think you really need it.

-Meghan

[Ziggy]

That was me, and I've since turned PHP off for Founders too. PHP (and to a lesser degree HTML) are pretty risky things to allow on forums, ya know?

The Code option is going to be fairly useless unless you do a completely plain text sig because it doesn't allow any formatting like color or alignment, but that can be turned back on if you guys think you really need it.

-Meghan
while your looking at permisions can you fix the fact that some people can delete posts and others cant.

[Riddikulus]

That was me, and I've since turned PHP off for Founders too. PHP (and to a lesser degree HTML) are pretty risky things to allow on forums, ya know?

The Code option is going to be fairly useless unless you do a completely plain text sig because it doesn't allow any formatting like color or alignment, but that can be turned back on if you guys think you really need it.

-Meghan
I was using
text to great effect in my signature. Color works fine as you can see.

The best thing about code is that it doesn't ignore spaces so it's much easier to space things out properly.


Word1 Word2 Word3

As far as I'm concerned alignment is completely useless... you cannot put more than one on a line.

Like if you want something left aligned and right aligned, they end up on different lines:


Test1
test2
Test3

[binnsr]

That was me, and I've since turned PHP off for Founders too. PHP (and to a lesser degree HTML) are pretty risky things to allow on forums, ya know?

The Code option is going to be fairly useless unless you do a completely plain text sig because it doesn't allow any formatting like color or alignment, but that can be turned back on if you guys think you really need it.

-Meghan
Is the next step to restrict the formating of posts themselves?

[Venomir]

Just testing to see how mug Sigs is =)

[DrAwkward]

how about just the ability to send Someone at turbine an already set up avatar and be able to use it.

I could see that as a Premium Service.

[Ziggy]

I could see that as a Premium Service.
if that became a premium service id have to join the "doom" camp. cause thats ridiculous.

[Rowanheal]

I will admit that the alignment thing really bugs me... Having to put black dots or other placeholders in seems a little silly...

Sigh... Oh well...

Avatars would be nice, but I am not going to hold my breath...

I still need lessons in BBcode. There are some nice links on the web for those that are as challenged as I am :)

See ya in Stormreach,

(gods this sig is awful now UGH!)

[Quarion]

The forum signature permissions are now updated.

I've also gone through and made the Founder's permissions exactly the same as Registered Users. I apologize for the descrepancies.

[binnsr]

The forum signature permissions are now updated.

I've also gone through and made the Founder's permissions exactly the same as Registered Users. I apologize for the descrepancies.

It's still morning where I am .. and still morning in Boston..


So, Friday afternoon we'll be changing the requirements of signatures to be more consistent with the rest of our game forums.<blah,blah>

[Ziggy]

The forum signature permissions are now updated.

I've also gone through and made the Founder's permissions exactly the same as Registered Users. I apologize for the descrepancies.
Q i direct your attention to this thread.
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=114057

I still cant delete posts.

Im invisible though.:cool:

[The_Cataclysm]

It's still morning where I am .. and still morning in Boston..

It's always afternoon somewhere.

[Riddikulus]

Yay... [code] is back. Hope my sig isn't too obnoxious.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Yay... [code] is back. Hope my sig isn't too obnoxious.It's fine, except that [code] always has 1 space before, 1 space in code at the end, and 1 space after. Not to mention the code outline. Right there, you've doubled your sig space.

[Riddikulus]

It's fine, except that [code] always has 1 space before, 1 space in code at the end, and 1 space after. Not to mention the code outline. Right there, you've doubled your sig space.
/em point
Look... over there! An eagle!

/em whistles

[Aspenor]

This is unacceptable Q. :D

[Grinndal]

Just wish I would have seen this sooner. I will now have to deal with all the levels on my characters being wrong. And some names too I guess oh well.

[binnsr]

The forum signature permissions are now updated.

was this selective? I keep seeing a mix of 4-line ones (both configured for 4 lines and truncated at 4-lines) and longer ones..

[Theboz]

was this selective? I keep seeing a mix of 4-line ones (both configured for 4 lines and truncated at 4-lines) and longer ones..


If you try and change it or update it will change to the 4 line maximum.

I tried that this morning :(

[Rowanheal]

Ok, I am confused again...

It says the sig I have below is more than 4 lines??? sigh

Ok, is it something in the BBcode that would make it think it is more than 4 line, or is there something really obvious that I am just missing...

I swear I am about to just delete the darn thing and run around the forums NEKKID!!!

See ya in Stormreach,


Proudly part of the Ghallanda Server :D
Rowanheal Lvl 13 Cleric,Rowanarrow Lvl 13 Ranger,Rowanfire Lvl 10 Sorcerer,Rowanslash Lvl 7 Fighter,
Rowansong Lvl 4Bard,Rowantech Lvl 4Barbarian
DDO Podcast :p (www.ddocast.com)~A Visitor to the Thelanis Server~

[Val'lochar_Del'Armgo]

Sorry, didn't realize it was a sin to simply list one's characters.

Just list 'em before you close out your post. I don't see the harm if it's done subtly.

Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................4 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......4(sorc/ftr)

[mocat]

Just list 'em before you close out your post. I don't see the harm if it's done subtly.

Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................4 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......3(sorc/ftr)

:eek:

You rebel! :p :D

[Val'lochar_Del'Armgo]

well......... unless you have 37 characters.....:p

I guess it depends on how touchy the moderators are going to get about it.

After all, I firmly suspect that it was THEM who wanted this change and not us. I can't remember EVER once thinking of it as a problem, and goin "jeeez that persons signature is just OUT of HAND and it's taking me FORevarrr to scroll down thru it to get to the next post!:mad: "

ugh....... sorry- my sarcasm-Turrets acting up again.:o

Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................5 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......4(sorc/ftr)

[Dariun]

Just list 'em before you close out your post. I don't see the harm if it's done subtly.


Honestly, I will start putting people on Ignore who do this.

[binnsr]

Honestly, I will start putting people on Ignore who do this.
now that's a great idea.. i probably would too if the demarkation between posts and signatures were easier to see..

[Dariun]

now that's a great idea.. i probably would too if the demarkation between posts and signatures were easier to see..

Since I already have signatures off, I figure it will be pretty clear. ;)

[aargos]

well......... unless you have 37 characters.....:p

I guess it depends on how touchy the moderators are going to get about it.

After all, I firmly suspect that it was THEM who wanted this change and not us. I can't remember EVER once thinking of it as a problem, and goin "jeeez that persons signature is just OUT of HAND and it's taking me FORevarrr to scroll down thru it to get to the next post!:mad: "

ugh....... sorry- my sarcasm-Turrets acting up again.:o

Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................5 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......4(sorc/ftr)

I actually enjoy seeing all the creative sig block
Sometimes they're more interesting then the post itself.

[Val'lochar_Del'Armgo]

Honestly, I will start putting people on Ignore who do this.

Perfectly within your rights- I look forward to being ignored by you.

Regards

Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................5 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......4(sorc/ftr)

[ccheath776]

We have had honey now we get more salt.
Keep takin turbine. Just keep takin.
Maybe this is a good thing but how long will it be till you take something and there is nothing to take because everyone is gone.

[Tavok]

Honestly, I will start putting people on Ignore who do this.

Because obviously anyone who doesn't agree with you and do exactly as you do is completely ignorant and a bligerant fool.

[Dariun]

Because obviously anyone who doesn't agree with you and do exactly as you do is completely ignorant and a bligerant fool.

No, because if your "signature" exceeds the content of your posts by a factor of 4 or more then your signal to noise ratio is too high for my poor weak brain to manage.

If you routinely make 10 line or longer posts, then I wouldn't mind a long "sig".

[AmsterdamHeavy]

Honestly, I will start putting people on Ignore who do this.

/agree

[Mad_Bombardier]

Ok, I know Quarion is on vacation now. So, Patience, can you please turn off [code] in sigsagain? Code adds 3.5 empty lines to the sig (the .5 is from the outline box). If the limit was 10 lines, 4 would not be as noticable. But when the limit is 4, an extra 4 is too much. Thanks. :)

[Dane_McArdy]

Really, do I've always gone with a classic look


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[aargos]

As some of you have noticed, the forum signatures seem to be growing a bit out of control and making the forums harder to read.

So, Friday afternoon we'll be changing the requirements of signatures to be more consistent with the rest of our game forums.

The new settings will allow a maximum of 4 lines and up to 1000 non-BBcode characters. (Up to 2000 if you do use BBCode)

In the meantime, we suggest revising your signature to avoid it being truncated when we implement the new settings.


Thanks!
-Quarion

??? what's the big deal?

[lostinjapan]

People are still posting in this thread?

After what...five Turbine responses without a single one answering the question asked by several players (including myself) of "when will we get the character icons promised to us long ago?" I pretty much gave up.

However I'm in a bit of a mood right now and thought I'd beat the dead horse again...just for good measure.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Patience, I'd like to point out an error in the sig editor. I went to update my sig today and am unable to do so. I have a 4 line sig and it's telling me I cannot update because I have more than 4 lines (and no, there is not a space between lines 2 and 3, it just looks like it because of the alignment). I'm thoroughly confuzzed. :confused:

[Ziggy]

Patience, I'd like to point out an error in the sig editor. I went to update my sig today and am unable to do so. I have a 4 line sig and it's telling me I cannot update because I have more than 4 lines (and no, there is not a space between lines 2 and 3, it just looks like it because of the alignment). I'm thoroughly confuzzed. :confused:
Mad i see 5 lines.


DDO: Stormreach. Real time combat, turn based spellcasting!" -DrAwkward
*munches popcorn with Shecky*


Mabargonnessen, the Shadow Dragon
Skarn Brightforge - Dwarf 14Cleric "Commander" ~ Mocha Latte- Elf 12Ranger/1Cleric ~ Pyropus- WF 14Wizard ~ Etana Anvilsplitter- Dwarf
14Fighter

[Val'lochar_Del'Armgo]

Or you could do like I suggested on page 8 and then have people threaten to put you on ignore like they did me.



Raceslayer..........................14 ftr
Faedra Del'Armgo.................14 sorc
Lamordran, Elder of d'Vhaar....14 ftr
Loot Wench........................10 rogue
Roxxem Soxxem...................1 ftr
Serpents Minion...................4 cleric
Kelvan BlackWrath................4 ftr
Arivana of House d'Vhaar.......4(sorc/ftr)

[binnsr]

eh.. I only count 4

1 - "DDO: Stormreach. Real time combat, turn based spellcasting!" -DrAwkward
2 - *munches popcorn with Shecky*

3 - Mabargonnessen, the Shadow Dragon
4 - Skarn Brightforge - Dwarf 14Cleric "Commander" ~ Mocha Latte- Elf 12Ranger/1Cleric ~ Pyropus- WF 14Wizard ~ Etana Anvilsplitter- Dwarf 14Fighter

[Riddikulus]

Patience, I'd like to point out an error in the sig editor. I went to update my sig today and am unable to do so. I have a 4 line sig and it's telling me I cannot update because I have more than 4 lines (and no, there is not a space between lines 2 and 3, it just looks like it because of the alignment). I'm thoroughly confuzzed. :confused:
It might be because your last line is too long. If you shrink your IE window to the smallest it can go before it puts up a scroll bar, you will see you have 5 lines.

[Ziggy]

eh.. I only count 4

1 - "DDO: Stormreach. Real time combat, turn based spellcasting!" -DrAwkward
2 - *munches popcorn with Shecky*

3 - Mabargonnessen, the Shadow Dragon

4 - Skarn Brightforge - Dwarf 14Cleric "Commander" ~ Mocha Latte- Elf 12Ranger/1Cleric ~ Pyropus- WF 14Wizard ~ Etana Anvilsplitter- Dwarf 14Fighter

Aye when i copied it, it showed on 4. However it shows on five.
This one runs over.

4 - Skarn Brightforge - Dwarf 14Cleric "Commander" ~ Mocha Latte- Elf 12Ranger/1Cleric ~ Pyropus- WF 14Wizard ~ Etana Anvilsplitter- Dwarf 14Fighter

[Mad_Bombardier]

It might be because your last line is too long. If you shrink your IE window to the smallest it can go before it puts up a scroll bar, you will see you have 5 lines.

Aye when i copied it, it showed on 4. However it shows on five.
This one runs over.Ok, the last line is 144 characters. Anyone know the character limit per line? I'm guessing somewhere around 135 characters. Which really means we have a 540 character limit with 1460 extra characters for code fluff. Awww, screw it... I'll just leave it as is. :D

[Ziggy]

Ok, the last line is 144 characters. Anyone know the character limit per line? I'm guessing somewhere around 135 characters. Which really means we have a 540 character limit with 1460 extra characters for code fluff. Awww, screw it... I'll just leave it as is. :D
Copying your first line of text into word and doing a word count give us 137 characters(including spaces)


The fourth line of your Sig in word count gives 134.

[Nataichal]

Dear Turbine. Want to tell me why the heck your system won't accept this as a sig?




Guinglain L. 14 Dwarf Fighter - Tynnian L. 14 Human Cleric - Citrinitas L. 14 Drow Rogue -
Dy Trying L. 14 Halfling Ranger/Fighter/Rogue - Nataichal L. 14 Drow Sorcerer - Near Miss L. 14 Halfling Ranger/Rogue -
Altar Boy L. 14 Drow Paladin/Fighter - Wynds of Change L. 4 Paladin/Fighter/Rogue
Ghallandra - The Iron Phalanx Trade List:http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118049

[Mad_Bombardier]

Dear Turbine. Want to tell me why the heck your system won't accept this as a sig?




Guinglain L. 14 Dwarf Fighter - Tynnian L. 14 Human Cleric - Citrinitas L. 14 Drow Rogue -
Dy Trying L. 14 Halfling Ranger/Fighter/Rogue - Nataichal L. 14 Drow Sorcerer - Near Miss L. 14 Halfling Ranger/Rogue -
Altar Boy L. 14 Drow Paladin/Fighter - Wynds of Change L. 4 Paladin/Fighter/Rogue
Ghallandra - The Iron Phalanx Trade List:http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=118049Same problem as me. Your line #2 is too long and registering as 2 lines. Is it our fault that their definition of a line is using screen resolution with 800 horizontal pixels? I don't think so. :p

[Jundak]

Hmph...they didn't change mine.

[Coldin]

Hmph...they didn't change mine.

Yeah, but you won't be able to edit it at all until you get it within 4 lines.

[Coldin]

Well, ****...:(

You know Jun, you could easily get your sig within 4 lines. But you would have to ditch your quote.

NINJA!

[Jundak]

Yeah, but you won't be able to edit it at all until you get it within 4 lines.

Well, ****...:(

[binnsr]

You know Jun, you could easily get your sig within 4 lines. But you would have to ditch your quote.

NINJA!
I think his last post still stands, Coldin :D

[Jundak]

I think his last post still stands, Coldin :D

Yup...that's quote is one best things I've heard in a long time in regards to that guy. Funniest thing ever. I'd hate to lose it...

[Marrra]

Sorry to drag this up again, but I have the same problem as some others who've posted in that apparently my sig is more than 4 lines? Can someone verify this, because I shortened it a few weeks ago to this one which looks 4 lines on my screen. Thanks.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Ok... I'm encountering the same problem as all of you again...

Anyone know why this doesn't work?

"Perhaps the end has not yet been written…”

The Hand of the Black Tower
Allanon, Aundairian Ranger :: Keres, Aundairian Vindicator :: Naturalis Physicus, Aundairian Wizard

~and Others.

Thanks,
Master Kadish

[Jundak]

Ok... I'm encountering the same problem as all of you again...

Anyone know why this doesn't work?

"Perhaps the end has not yet been written…”

The Hand of the Black Tower
Allanon, Aundairian Ranger :: Keres, Aundairian Vindicator :: Naturalis Physicus, Aundairian Wizard

~and Others.

Thanks,
Master Kadish

It's the quote in your sig...you have to get rid of that, too.

[Mad_Bombardier]

Sorry to drag this up again, but I have the same problem as some others who've posted in that apparently my sig is more than 4 lines? Can someone verify this, because I shortened it a few weeks ago to this one which looks 4 lines on my screen. Thanks.Ok, Marrra's I can understand. Multiple color [code] forces the overall characters per line count over onto a 5th line.

But, Kadish. Yours is all one color (doable with 1 color [code]) with only minor code for left/center/right justification and relatively few characters per line. I'm thoroughly confuzzed. :confused:
Edit: D'oh! Missed the quote. Jundak is correct. The quote puts you over 4 lines.

[TommyBoy]

Lame

[Marrra]

Ok, Marrra's I can understand. Multiple color [code] forces the overall characters per line count over onto a 5th line.
Oh, so it's not that the text itself has to be within the characters-per-line limit, but it includes the code as well? That's harsh. But thanks for the reply :)

EDIT: Ok, so that's not quite right. I removed all the formatting and code and tested that and it still says I have more than 4 lines. I'm lost...

[binnsr]

yeah .. kinda negates the whole '1000 characters or 2000 with BBCode ' thing, doesn't it? :D

[Mad_Bombardier]

Oh, so it's not that the text itself has to be within the characters-per-line limit, but it includes the code as well? That's harsh. But thanks for the reply :)

EDIT: Ok, so that's not quite right. I removed all the formatting and code and tested that and it still says I have more than 4 lines. I'm lost...Ok, now that's downright weird. :confused: Lemme try mine.

EDIT: Same thing here. Did they accidentally set the max to 3 lines?

[Marrra]

Ok, after some fiddling around I have discovered that it thought my 2nd line was too long, so I got around that by moving my guild up next to my server. It doesn't look as neat now, which bugs me a little, but it's editable.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Ok, Marrra's I can understand. Multiple color [code] forces the overall characters per line count over onto a 5th line.

But, Kadish. Yours is all one color (doable with 1 color [code]) with only minor code for left/center/right justification and relatively few characters per line. I'm thoroughly confuzzed. :confused:
Edit: D'oh! Missed the quote. Jundak is correct. The quote puts you over 4 lines.

Hmmm. So the quote at the top is counted as two lines? Or is the list of my characters 2 lines? Or is there just something about having quotes in a sig? (j/k regarding the last one there).

EDIT: Here's the code I used for it (carrots rather than brackets to invalidate the code):

<color=#5fc186><font=centaur>"Perhaps the end has not yet been written…”
<center>The Hand of the Black Tower
Allanon, Aundairian Ranger :: Keres, Aundairian Vindicator :: Naturalis Physicus, Aundairian Wizard</center>
<right>~and Others.</right></font></color>

Master Kadish

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

After further testing, shortening the third line (with my three main characters) to only containing the first two characters allows me to successfully enter my sig. Reducing the quote to even 1 character does not help.

So... it seems that line #3 is counted as two lines...?

[PaintHorseCowboy]

There's really an easy work around for this.

Just type it in on here however you want it, complete with the code insertions.

Copy/Cut & Paste into Microsoft Word. Save.

When you type a response, copy it into the body of your text.

Presto, instant signature block.

Then you can reserve your "4-lines" for smart comments like:

Never underestimate the power of a DM with too much time on his hands.

Or...

There is always a way. The easy way is always mined.

Of course, if we do that, next thing you know they'll be limiting posts.

By the way, my signature block in real live takes 8 lines to type using proper spacing. Limiting to four seems a bit asanine. Yet another way to remove any former community by squeezing the space so you can't fit quotes or server references.

However, a great point was made, a little communication never hurts. Yeah, you gave us a head's up (that notion finally sunk in). But how about a reason other than, in your opinion "signature blocks have gotten out of hand". Yes, I'm late with this but like I said, I've been out of the country. Because if that were truly the case, more threads would be going *poof* for excessive ranting causing them to become too long.

Oh, and one other add-on. Code should not be counted in the length of your signature since it doesn't actually appear in the signature when printed out. It just makes things look nicer.

[borgec]

Was this ever implemented? I see ton's of signatures that are still way out of control. One signature has a guild name, guild website, then 21 Character names all listed on a separate line. That 1 signature takes up the entire page on my laptop.


As some of you have noticed, the forum signatures seem to be growing a bit out of control and making the forums harder to read.

So, Friday afternoon we'll be changing the requirements of signatures to be more consistent with the rest of our game forums.

The new settings will allow a maximum of 4 lines and up to 1000 non-BBcode characters. (Up to 2000 if you do use BBCode)

In the meantime, we suggest revising your signature to avoid it being truncated when we implement the new settings.


Thanks!
-Quarion

[Mad_Bombardier]

Was this ever implemented? I see ton's of signatures that are still way out of control. One signature has a guild name, guild website, then 21 Character names all listed on a separate line. That 1 signature takes up the entire page on my laptop.It was implemented for new/edited sigs, but they haven't forced anyone to change their existing sigs. Baby steps, I suppose.

[iamsamoth0]

I give.
I was holding out on my sig, I didn't want to give in, I think people should have the option to have a longer sig.
But, knowing that if I were to change it, I would lose it I didn't want to surrender the principal. Now I want to change it.

Can anyone help?
I know I want just the three columns with the guilds I participate in and the names of my toons.

I tried to get a clue here...http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=1662125&postcount=45.
But, I can't get the Shamrocks to stay on the same line.

I want it to look tidy and efficient, to those who have not already squelched me.
I am active in two guilds on Argo, not including my own Shamrocks, with one other friend. Ascent and ELITE.
I now play on Thelanis as well, though I am not sure if I am in an real Guilds there.
My exposure through the past couple weeks has been very slight, and for 2-3 months before that all I cared about was cakes and cookies, and coins. I did nothing but stalk the auctions on both the houses, I now have a sweet little kitty to work with on my newbie server, Thelanis.

Point is I am not good at programming since BASICA, help me someone. Please. :)
Though the Google search did pull up that cool table of the colors. My two colors I'd like to keep.