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Valrim_The_Arcane
08-15-2007, 07:49 AM
I'd like to say that I have found some very nice positives since the

merge. I joined a great group for POP on the first night after the merge and

had a ton of fun..completed it in 30 min or so. I continue to have fun with

a larger server population and find it easier to group.

I would like others to feel free to add some positives of the merge to this

thread.

lostinjapan
08-15-2007, 08:11 AM
The larger selection of people has been nice...

I'll leave it at that since this seems to be a positive thread.

Arlith
08-15-2007, 08:34 AM
I would like others to feel free to add some positives of the merge to this
thread.

Well, I.....

Ummm then I...

And I .....

Oh! There was this.....

Wait! This one time....



****

Galwain
08-15-2007, 09:53 AM
Positive?


More people have met ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Now some of them can know what to look up to.

Solstice
08-15-2007, 10:01 AM
the definitive positive merge point:

- play with high lag and freezes turns the game more difficult :eek: (this works as a positive sarcasm, correct?)

- discover that your bad English isn't so bad because you know read the LFM instead some "native English" players can't. (this works as a positive point on my life, correct?)

- see that some players from your original server aren't so bad as you imagine after pug with other players (c'mon, is a general positive point for our "home based kobolds*)

- increase the friendship with your "friend list": more that ever you need play with your friends for do some quests without issues, and miss the good players that leave the game before the merge! (the love positive point ever!)




* I don't say more a bad player is a newbie, noob or wharever. this guy will be a Kobold for me.

Velorn
08-15-2007, 10:39 AM
I'd like to say that I have found some very nice positives since the

merge. I joined a great group for POP on the first night after the merge and

had a ton of fun..completed it in 30 min or so. I continue to have fun with

a larger server population and find it easier to group.

I would like others to feel free to add some positives of the merge to this

thread.

Positives:
1) More players
2) More LFM's
3) More playstyles
4) More tactics
5) More friends on my list
6) More desire to play

Need I say more:D :D
IMHO the server merges should've happened long before they did.

JayDubya
08-15-2007, 10:40 AM
I had an hour before a raid, and so I did some pick-up quests in the Gianthold with my non-uber 11th level rogue/ranger. We run Cabal, take it slow, go back to sell, etc.

So we're about to start Feast, w/only 20 minutes before the raid, and I'm getting a sinking feeling as half the party disappears, including the cleric. Oi. I'm looking at my watch and wincing maybe the raid will start late.

The party leader puts up an LFM.

Within 3 minutes we had a completely full party again and were off to the races. We finished with a couple of minutes to spare, as I recall.

On the old Thelanis, this would have rarely happened, and I would have had to awkwardly bow out after waiting 10 minutes.

juniorpfactors
08-15-2007, 10:43 AM
sol/sver you got great English bud...people just need to listen better...:D and that was a fun giant raid last night....didnt realy like the items :cool: but its always fun running with diff players...if you win:)

miceelf88
08-15-2007, 10:45 AM
I'm a casual player and haven't done a lot of the higher level content, but I did my first dragon raid post-merge and had a lot of fun (and was successful, too) with a PUG. In fact, in every case but one the PUG I was with was great, and in the one case it wasn't great, the single offender got booted from the group.

Had a lot of fun since the merge, and because I like to run my character through all the quests, it's good to have people who are willing to do the less popular quests at least for favor, like the necropolis stuff and the random level 8-9 stuff in the various houses.

Scarsgaard
08-15-2007, 10:51 AM
Met some cool people... and the forums are getting tasy with all the juicy misunderstandings and arguements... ty folkes.. this has greatly improved my enjoyment:D

narizue
08-15-2007, 01:14 PM
Met some cool folks from other home servers.
Met some horrific players from other home servers.
Had some good luck with pugs.
Had some bad luck with pugs.
Read guildies talking bout having the worst luck with pugs I have ever seen.
Been able to jump into groups whenever I want, with just about any character I want.
Learned some new tricks.
Taught some folks some of my old tricks.
Made a ton of money on the AH.

All and all the merge has been a good thing IMHO. The lag is irritating, but will hopefully get better, same for the load screens.(mostly the load screens)

And definately had a heck of a lot more fun on the server forums.

Merlask
08-15-2007, 01:25 PM
getting to meet so many more of you ^^

Melioch
08-15-2007, 01:34 PM
Blacklist got longer.
Friend list got bigger.
Tavern Brawl got busier.

Just the other day I saw a Barbarian holding hands with a Bard, times are changing, the hate is fading.

I guess i can't complain, being in a big server isn't so bad after all.

Jundak
08-15-2007, 02:00 PM
Just the other day I saw a Barbarian holding hands with a Bard, times are changing, the hate is fading.

"Dogs and cats living together...MASS HYSTERIA!!" - Bill Murry, Ghostbusters. :D

gorloch
08-15-2007, 02:26 PM
It's teaching some of us patience all over again. Oh wait maybe we still aren't so patient. :rolleyes:

PIXA

Muirtach
08-15-2007, 04:56 PM
"Dogs and cats living together...MASS HYSTERIA!!" - Bill Murry, Ghostbusters. :D

Glad I wasn't the only one to think that

PaintHorseCowboy
08-15-2007, 09:19 PM
I'm positive my /squelch list has doubled and nearly tripled in size.


:eek: (this works as a positive sarcasm, correct?)


On the truly positive side, thanks to the efforts in making the merger video, I no longer have to worry about hitting a butterfly bug swarm when running back to the bank to grab my Dal Quor Sigil while time-warped and sprint boosted. That's a good thing cause butterflies taste really bad and the splatter they were leaving on my white dragonscale robe made it look like I'd been camping under a nest of condors.

Another positive is y'all are starting to catch on to the whole Xorian Hate thing. Look at some of the posts. We've infected you. Welcome to the new world!

I've also had no trouble finding parties, even ones that want to "speed" run something but I guess some of them forgot their running shoes because they're still a little slow. On the plus side though, it's fun to run them around and watch them scramble trying to keep up and hearing them wonder out loud how the heck the wizard had more kills than the tanks. Always good for a chuckle.

I've also learned why there seems to be a bias by some folks against rangers. It's because most of you have no idea how to properly make one or what to do with it once you do. It's been amusing talking about them and hearing the complete and utter astonishment at some little bit of information that escaped them. My personal favorite? "Why can't I hit anything with my Ranger when I melee? I have two really good weapons." -- "What do you have?" -- "I have a Sirocco and a +3 Useless Attribute Longsword of Whatever, and I never hit anything and I have weapon finesse. What gives?" -- "What's your strength?" -- "Uh...10, why?" -- DEAD SILENCE ON THE LINE FROM ME WHILE I TRY TO CONTROL THE HYSTERIA. "UH...you're not gonna like this...."

Now on the real positive side. We've found a guild we share a lot of tenants with and everyone in both guilds seems to get along and enjoys running together. If I didn't know better, I'd say they were Xorian. They have the sarcasm down and aren't afraid to get their kitty off the porch and run with the big dogs. And yes, kitty is an appropriate word if you think about it long enough.

There has been so many groups looking for players out there, if I join one and hear kids voices, *ding* I'm gone, and within moments have found a group of adults to run with. But then again, I had all the kids squelched on the old server so that is also contributing to my rapid expansion of the /squelch list.

I've met some really good players and even had a few tactics discussions and traded ideas. Heard some I really liked, and have given a few that have been really well received. Exchange of information is good.

There's a whole new crop of folks to spread Xorian Hate to!

Arnya
08-15-2007, 10:37 PM
Biggest positive: all the rangers and paladins on Sarlona that now know they can use healing wands....

/sigh

Galwain
08-15-2007, 11:25 PM
Dang... i gotta have some of you folks run with me.

It seems some of y'all don't like thelanis...

Ill show ya some big dogs....

Lizzybrat
08-15-2007, 11:40 PM
Dang... i gotta have some of you folks run with me.

It seems some of y'all don't like thelanis...

Ill show ya some big dogs....

Uh oh - beware of the Havanti.... LOL!
Of course I wanna come watch!

smodge13
08-16-2007, 12:29 AM
Pugged Elite titan, thanks to a fighter from xoriat, he made you vagabonds look like a bunch of children (no offence but i am yet to encounter a simpler titan raid, especially when 50% were newbies to the titan)

i think his name was tugboat (that cant be right) i'll have to look it up.
anyway he was a fighter who knew what to do and taught us many tricks and it all went smoothly.

incubo
08-16-2007, 09:11 AM
Why thank you Smodge for the kind words about me and my guildies.

But did all the newbies get something from the quest or was it all taken care of for them? I mean we take time to explain things to them and let them make the mistakes and learn from them. Even when unsuccessful they are successful. It's the learning process.

If you want a party where half the people don't know what is going on and just have them trail behind I can do that too but it doesn't make it fun for the others.

Citymorg
08-16-2007, 09:22 AM
Pugged Elite titan, thanks to a fighter from xoriat, he made you vagabonds look like a bunch of children (no offence but i am yet to encounter a simpler titan raid, especially when 50% were newbies to the titan)

i think his name was tugboat (that cant be right) i'll have to look it up.
anyway he was a fighter who knew what to do and taught us many tricks and it all went smoothly.

<cough, cough> I remember that raid, Tugboat wasn't the only Xorian there. Tugboat didn't hit the Titan with a monster disintigrate and get the kill ;). It was one of the best Titan runs I've been on.

Edit-Some of the best roleplaying I've seen in the game in a long time. Everyone had role and knew what it was and did it very well, that included Clerics, Casters, Melees, Rogues and everyone else

Jundak
08-16-2007, 10:05 AM
I was unaware that people still had trouble with the Titan. Hmph...learn something new everyday. *shrug*

Lizzybrat
08-16-2007, 10:14 AM
The Vagabonds have always done this cool thing they call Tour the Titan (and I think they've done it for other raids too) where they take guilds and people who have never been in the raid or have not beaten a raid and step them through it, teaching them tricks and strategies. It's not for the zerger at heart but is an awesome way to experience a raid, especially if you belong to a non-raiding or smaller guild. They usually run about half Vagabond/half other guilds. It enables the other guilds to be able to go back to their own groups and bring their friends through.

My very first successful titan raid (and my first titan raid period) was with the Vagabonds on one of their tours and now I blow through it with 4 of us on elite.

Very cool event if you can hook up with them when they are running one.

JayDubya
08-16-2007, 10:29 AM
My only DQ raid thus far (a while back) was led by Ira, and I thought they (IVF) showed great patience in dealing with my somewhat bumbling clericitude.

I also recently did a Titan raid with some Xorians, and while the approach was interesting, it wasn't particularly more or less interesting than the "classic" approaches - perhaps a little safer whilst also a little more dull and with fewer useful parts to play.

Bottom line - I've had good runs with good people from each of the servers, and no complaints about anyone.

Uamhas
08-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Dang... i gotta have some of you folks run with me.

It seems some of y'all don't like thelanis...

Ill show ya some big dogs....

Fraps. Need I say more?

lostinjapan
08-16-2007, 10:55 AM
The lag is irritating, but will hopefully get better, same for the load screens.(mostly the load screens)

This and the occasional client crash that I've been getting since the merge are my only real complaints.

I miss the Xoriat name and my character Pertinacity's original name of Tenacity but those parts I can live with.

The more active forums, the more active LFMs, some of the pretty cool people I've met since the merge. That's been very nice too. So IMHO the merger was overall a good thing...Turbine just needs to work out the kinks.

Wotansdottir
08-16-2007, 10:58 AM
Why thank you Smodge for the kind words about me and my guildies.

But did all the newbies get something from the quest or was it all taken care of for them? I mean we take time to explain things to them and let them make the mistakes and learn from them. Even when unsuccessful they are successful. It's the learning process.

If you want a party where half the people don't know what is going on and just have them trail behind I can do that too but it doesn't make it fun for the others.

No offense, Smodge, I have had a few good runs with ya but I wondered if you've ever done a full IFV guild raid? Or a Tour the Titan? Incubo hit the nail on the head. There is a difference between doing everything FOR the new people in the group, leaving them hanging to wonder what the duck is going on, or actually showing people what the puzzles, what the levers, what the whatever is.

As someone who has led more than her fair share of raids, I have a tendency to observe how others lead their groups. There are sh*t leaders, there are fair leaders, and then there are GOOD leaders. Fast does not always mean good. I always tip my hat to Methil since I consider him one of the best. I honestly have seen few people as patient or as willing to give of their time to show others how to complete often completely banal aspects of quests such as Twilight Forge. I'm just not sure why you felt the need to call out IFV here, and that's all I'm going to say. Give props to your good group, but you don't need to rip others down, especially since I seriously doubt the amount of time you have spent in similar IFV guild groups.

Scarsgaard
08-16-2007, 12:28 PM
The only problem with doing fast runs is that, I learn the run a lot slower:D

Muirtach
08-16-2007, 12:29 PM
One slow run allows those not familiar with things a bit of time to learn it out and allows them to run faster with you making the whole faster.

Velorn
08-16-2007, 12:30 PM
The Vagabonds have always done this cool thing they call Tour the Titan (and I think they've done it for other raids too) where they take guilds and people who have never been in the raid or have not beaten a raid and step them through it, teaching them tricks and strategies. It's not for the zerger at heart but is an awesome way to experience a raid, especially if you belong to a non-raiding or smaller guild. They usually run about half Vagabond/half other guilds. It enables the other guilds to be able to go back to their own groups and bring their friends through.

My very first successful titan raid (and my first titan raid period) was with the Vagabonds on one of their tours and now I blow through it with 4 of us on elite.

Very cool event if you can hook up with them when they are running one.

Does IFV do this often?...my 1 man guild has never done it with any alt. :eek: :D For that matter, I haven't done the Reaver or DQ either. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Only raid completed was that silly red dragon (Velorn 1/1, Krule 0/4:( )

Muirtach
08-16-2007, 12:40 PM
Does IFV do this often?...my 1 man guild has never done it with any alt. :eek: :D For that matter, I haven't done the Reaver or DQ either. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Only raid completed was that silly red dragon (Velorn 1/1, Krule 0/4:( )

It's been a while since the last one, but you are more than welcome to join us if you want. Jump over to our guild forums and introduce yourself. It is a lot easier to arrange things over there than it is here.

Uamhas
08-16-2007, 04:17 PM
Why thank you Smodge for the kind words about me and my guildies.

But did all the newbies get something from the quest or was it all taken care of for them? I mean we take time to explain things to them and let them make the mistakes and learn from them. Even when unsuccessful they are successful. It's the learning process.

If you want a party where half the people don't know what is going on and just have them trail behind I can do that too but it doesn't make it fun for the others.

For those of you that feel the quality of players on Thelanis is substandard, don't come run with me, I'll just prove you right; run with Incubo. (Don't glare at me Incubo) He's one of the positive experiences Xorians and Tharashkians, and yes, other native Thelanians would do well to cultivate. I can say from actual running with him that he has been instrumental in my accumulation of useful knowledge of game play. Incubo has gotten raid cherries from several of my girls- most notably as it pertains to this thread is Uma's Titan. Yes, she noobed through several of the Tour the Titan raids with Incubo leading... and had fun in the process.

Other positives:
More warfrogs around.
Tigers of Sho. Jundak is a cutie patootie when he's got a crown of flowers on.
More warfrogs around.
Shyv. and Scar. Nuff said.
More warfrogs around.
Discovering there's more people here almost as freaky as me.
More warfrogs.
New ways of looking at things. After months of being Raid Nazi in the dragon, I learned an effective new (new to me) way of taking Velah out. And this was on my lvl 8 divine caster's virgin Velah raid on Aerenal/Sarlona.
Did I mention, more warfrogs?
One other thing about that auspicious von raid... Several people in party mentioned that they had been playing multiple months, but that this was their first successful dragon raid due to a previous lack of warm bodies... and it came from a pug. There's you another positive: enough people to put together a decent pug.

Citymorg
08-16-2007, 04:24 PM
There are two types (more actually, but for the sake of this thread) of raid runs:

1. Full 12 man raids where everything is done, every objective is completed, and the raid goes slow enough for everyone to learn it. This is an excellent raid to learn on.

2. Usually, shortmanned, everyone in the group has done the raid before, there is nothing new to see, and everyone knows what do to complete the raid. In this case, going slow is to no one's benefit. I would not want to do this for my first time through a raid, but my 5th--hell yes.

Tugboat's raid was a prime example of the second and very well done. His LFM said it was going to be fast and elite and it was. Anyone going into knew what to expect, once you found out he was from Xoriat all the more.

incubo
08-16-2007, 05:22 PM
(Don't glare at me Incubo)

I'm tired and at work and cannot glare at anything.

Scarsgaard
08-16-2007, 05:25 PM
Oh yeah...

I thought of another thing!!!!!!

I get more people to bug:D

McSurlykins
08-16-2007, 05:32 PM
ooo warfrogs ftw :D

Galwain
08-16-2007, 07:22 PM
One of these days y'all will stop arguing and start looting more....

Really havent senn any of you "running as fast as you say" throughout the gianthold.

So basically, squash the arguement, Go back to the positive things that this thread was meant for.

AND LOOT MORE!!!!!!

XFracture
08-16-2007, 08:12 PM
Biggest positive I've seen/had since the merger? One word... or rather name:

Lessah.

I've had the pleasure of grouping with her several times, one was for a veritable walk through of the Pit and all I gotta say is she's one of the best players I've seen... outside of Xoriat that is. Don't flatter yerself too dern much. :mad:

Oh and Syriana, she's aight too. ;)

Jundak
08-16-2007, 10:20 PM
Tigers of Sho. Jundak is a cutie patootie when he's got a crown of flowers on.


Okay...three things:

1. It's The Tigers of Shu.
2. I'm not cute.
3. I fed the crown of flowers to Scar's cats. They looked hungry.

:D

Scarsgaard
08-17-2007, 12:17 AM
Okay...three things:

1. It's The Tigers of Shu.
2. I'm not cute.
3. I fed the crown of flowers to Scar's cats. They looked hungry.

:D

Morgan my big kitty, had to be pulled off the throat of a pomeranian recently, and his fav gift to give me is a rabbit's head... considering my last ex.. the head is better:eek:

Now my newest bastiche cat Memphis is coevered in tar everyday... has several cat gf's and chews on my feet all the time (if you hear me swear and scream into my mic, it's not tourettes.. its that jerk Memphis)...

Uamhas
08-17-2007, 01:50 AM
fo sho? I must've typo'ed:p
humble and abject apollugeez.
*impish grin*
yer still a cutie patootie.

Wotansdottir
08-17-2007, 07:51 AM
fo sho? I must've typo'ed:p
humble and abject apollugeez.
*impish grin*
yer still a cutie patootie.


Why is it wonderful that I can imagine you saying this in your sweet southern accent? LOL. :D

~S~

smodge13
08-17-2007, 08:52 AM
No offense, Smodge, I have had a few good runs with ya but I wondered if you've ever done a full IFV guild raid? Or a Tour the Titan? Incubo hit the nail on the head. There is a difference between doing everything FOR the new people in the group, leaving them hanging to wonder what the duck is going on, or actually showing people what the puzzles, what the levers, what the whatever is.

As someone who has led more than her fair share of raids, I have a tendency to observe how others lead their groups. There are sh*t leaders, there are fair leaders, and then there are GOOD leaders. Fast does not always mean good. I always tip my hat to Methil since I consider him one of the best. I honestly have seen few people as patient or as willing to give of their time to show others how to complete often completely banal aspects of quests such as Twilight Forge. I'm just not sure why you felt the need to call out IFV here, and that's all I'm going to say. Give props to your good group, but you don't need to rip others down, especially since I seriously doubt the amount of time you have spent in similar IFV guild groups.

i know what your talking about it, i hated to admit what i said but it is true, now i havent been on any full IFV runs, i was also one of the first to jump to request to go on your "tour the titan" runs, reason i called out IFV and i should have explained better, is i considered them THE BEST at the titan, i had heard plenty, i go on plenty of your runs for other quests, i have heard plenty from guildies and those who go on your titan runs when you do run them we even had 1 or 2 in the party, tugboat explained everything as we went along and it ran very smoothly, i remember there was a total of about 10 deaths at the absolute tops and those were accidental things like people slipping off platforms into the direct fire of the titan (or me when i hit a lag spike when we were leaving that back room en-masse, i meant no offence, IFV i consider very highly and did beleive they were THE BEST when it came to the titan, tugboat explained plenty and things went very smoothly, person who died the most was probably myself and if smodge is good at one thing, its survivability, i apologize if i offended i was just trying to stress the quality of leadership tugboat displayed and his willingness to help people, he was an amazing fighter and leader for that raid and i hope i get to run with him again.

once agian im sorry if i offended i should have probably worded my response better, you guys are great to run with and so was tugboat, keep in mind also my last titan run before this was back in the days when the titan was like the holy grail, it had never been beaten, i was one of those who devoted alot of time to try to be the first to bring it down and personally led at least 10-15 failed runs back then, IFV are well known for their quality player and their teamwork and also are known as some of the best raiders on the server their up the top amongst the ironwolves and what was known as OLYMPIANS (not sure if their still around).

so to finish i apologize if i offended IFV will always be considered one of the top guilds, i just used them as the example to show the quality of leadership tugboat displayed and the smoothness of the run.

Jundak
08-17-2007, 08:56 AM
Why is it wonderful that I can imagine you saying this in your sweet southern accent? LOL. :D

~S~

Don't encourage her. *grumbles*

incubo
08-17-2007, 10:19 AM
Don't encourage her. *grumbles*

Uamhas doesn't need encouraging, she needs an outlet and you are all gonna get it.

Lizzybrat
08-17-2007, 12:31 PM
Had a great PUG last night - blew through the three queen prereqs in no time.. yay for 15 min WK runs! Of course Scars was in the group so I did have to put up with him :p

We filled out the group in less than 2 minutes once the lfm was up and were on our way in less than five. Great group, good convo. Happy Happy.

Uamhas
08-17-2007, 12:59 PM
Don't encourage her. *grumbles*

The questyum that remains, Jundak... is how many of your awesome kitties I can share the love with? I got 3 of all y'all that first night..
*hums and makes more butterfly leis*

Shyver
08-17-2007, 01:03 PM
The questyum that remains, Jundak... is how many of your awesome kitties I can share the love with? I got 3 of all y'all that first night..
*hums and makes more butterfly leis*

I'm not a Tiger, though I can be seen running with them from time to time, so that doesn't count. You'd want to look up Attacks the Darkness to be gettin me again. :p

narizue
08-17-2007, 01:44 PM
The questyum that remains, Jundak... is how many of your awesome kitties I can share the love with? I got 3 of all y'all that first night..
*hums and makes more butterfly leis*

This kitty has claws and has been known to bite, but is usually on weeknights from about 11pm est.

;)

And anyone who makes Jundak grumble is okay in my book. :D

Muirtach
08-17-2007, 03:06 PM
Smodge, comparing a training run over 8 months ago to a run done less than a month ago is a little silly. Not faulting you, but think about how much you've learned about any quest in the same time :P

And DO NOT EVER compare my guild with Rust Puppy. I'd say more about why I'm so offended, but it really doesn't matter


i know what your talking about it, i hated to admit what i said but it is true, now i havent been on any full IFV runs, i was also one of the first to jump to request to go on your "tour the titan" runs, reason i called out IFV and i should have explained better, is i considered them THE BEST at the titan, i had heard plenty, i go on plenty of your runs for other quests, i have heard plenty from guildies and those who go on your titan runs when you do run them we even had 1 or 2 in the party, tugboat explained everything as we went along and it ran very smoothly, i remember there was a total of about 10 deaths at the absolute tops and those were accidental things like people slipping off platforms into the direct fire of the titan (or me when i hit a lag spike when we were leaving that back room en-masse, i meant no offence, IFV i consider very highly and did beleive they were THE BEST when it came to the titan, tugboat explained plenty and things went very smoothly, person who died the most was probably myself and if smodge is good at one thing, its survivability, i apologize if i offended i was just trying to stress the quality of leadership tugboat displayed and his willingness to help people, he was an amazing fighter and leader for that raid and i hope i get to run with him again.

once agian im sorry if i offended i should have probably worded my response better, you guys are great to run with and so was tugboat, keep in mind also my last titan run before this was back in the days when the titan was like the holy grail, it had never been beaten, i was one of those who devoted alot of time to try to be the first to bring it down and personally led at least 10-15 failed runs back then, IFV are well known for their quality player and their teamwork and also are known as some of the best raiders on the server their up the top amongst the ironwolves and what was known as OLYMPIANS (not sure if their still around).

so to finish i apologize if i offended IFV will always be considered one of the top guilds, i just used them as the example to show the quality of leadership tugboat displayed and the smoothness of the run.

Scarsgaard
08-17-2007, 03:20 PM
Smodge, comparing a training run over 8 months ago to a run done less than a month ago is a little silly. Not faulting you, but think about how much you've learned about any quest in the same time :P

And DO NOT EVER compare my guild with Rust Puppy. I'd say more about why I'm so offended, but it really doesn't matter

Oooh I like this attitude... vehemence, idignation and slight contempt are admirable qualities... another sign that this merge was a good thing and not a watering down...

Wotansdottir
08-17-2007, 03:21 PM
Smodge, comparing a training run over 8 months ago to a run done less than a month ago is a little silly. Not faulting you, but think about how much you've learned about any quest in the same time :P

And DO NOT EVER compare my guild with Rust Puppy. I'd say more about why I'm so offended, but it really doesn't matter

HAHA. Shin, I loves ya. I got your happy hour special right here, my friend.

Smodge, thanks for digging yourself out of that hole there. The last thing I want to see is old-skool Thelanians turning against each other for silly reasons. And honestly, leadership of a quest is negligible. There are a ton of good leaders, they just don't all get spammed about on these forums. Glad that a good leader is pointed out. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let a good group of people get put down as you're trying to bring someone else up. Thanks for putting your words out there. I am a big proponent of respectful language, honesty without cutting others down. If I teach it to my students I'm going to do my best to represent it. Everyone fails sometimes but it's the trying, the doing that separates us.

~S~

Muirtach
08-17-2007, 03:34 PM
Oooh I like this attitude... vehemence, idignation and slight contempt are admirable qualities... another sign that this merge was a good thing and not a watering down...

And then Erda comes in and waters it all down.



HAHA. Shin, I loves ya. I got your happy hour special right here, my friend.

Is happy hour the time when all the other people show up to the bar too?

Scarsgaard
08-17-2007, 03:38 PM
And then Erda comes in and waters it all down.


Bad Erda... bad bad bad... no beer for you:mad:

Jundak
08-17-2007, 03:40 PM
This kitty has claws and has been known to bite, but is usually on weeknights from about 11pm est.

;)

And anyone who makes Jundak grumble is okay in my book. :D

I hate you.

narizue
08-17-2007, 03:46 PM
*gasp*Guild Drama Alert*gasp*


I hate you.

My life is now complete.

Look at it this way bro, at least its not my wife driving you to distraction. I could encourage her too. :D

Thelic
08-17-2007, 04:04 PM
One of these days y'all will stop arguing and start looting more....

Really havent senn any of you "running as fast as you say" throughout the gianthold.

So basically, squash the arguement, Go back to the positive things that this thread was meant for.

AND LOOT MORE!!!!!!

Now play nice with the others Burn :D

Scarsgaard
08-17-2007, 04:08 PM
Bah... Gianthold is boring:(

Jundak
08-17-2007, 05:13 PM
Look at it this way bro, at least its not my wife driving you to distraction. I could encourage her too. :D

I hate her, too. :p

Wotansdottir
08-17-2007, 07:30 PM
And then Erda comes in and waters it all down.



Is happy hour the time when all the other people show up to the bar too?

Happy hour is when all the men show up and bring me flowers and they may or may not do my dishes and sweep my floors while they're at it.

And you just gotta understand-- my first week of school, I repeat the same speech 10 times a day for 5 days... "We use RESPECTFUL language and treat people with KINDNESS even if we don't all get ALONG because that's UNREALISTIC children but even if you don't LIKE somebody we will be KIND to them because that is how we want to be treated. And we DON'T punch each other in the face children because that is not KIND although it IS SOMETIMES an effective tool for conflict RESOLUTION it's not how we deal with our PROBLEMS in our SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT rawwwr!!!!"

So *sigh* watered down. It's what you're gonna get until I get back to normal. Sorry Shintastic. I don't wanna cramp your style :rolleyes:

smodge13
08-17-2007, 07:38 PM
HAHA. Shin, I loves ya. I got your happy hour special right here, my friend.

Smodge, thanks for digging yourself out of that hole there. The last thing I want to see is old-skool Thelanians turning against each other for silly reasons. And honestly, leadership of a quest is negligible. There are a ton of good leaders, they just don't all get spammed about on these forums. Glad that a good leader is pointed out. But I'll be damned if I'm going to let a good group of people get put down as you're trying to bring someone else up. Thanks for putting your words out there. I am a big proponent of respectful language, honesty without cutting others down. If I teach it to my students I'm going to do my best to represent it. Everyone fails sometimes but it's the trying, the doing that separates us.

~S~
yeah, i try not to offend unfortunately my thought process and style of speech differs from the norm, i often offend by accident when i dont intend it, hence the long replies to further explain my thoughts, ask anyone who knows me well, i often offend without any complete knowledge off it, sometimes i'll just sit there apologizing in advance (which seems to offend as well), i dunno im just different from people as those who group with me often and offend without intention so i apologize.

Wotansdottir
08-17-2007, 07:53 PM
yeah, i try not to offend unfortunately my thought process and style of speech differs from the norm, i often offend by accident when i dont intend it, hence the long replies to further explain my thoughts, ask anyone who knows me well, i often offend without any complete knowledge off it, sometimes i'll just sit there apologizing in advance (which seems to offend as well), i dunno im just different from people as those who group with me often and offend without intention so i apologize.

It's all good in the hood brother Smodge! Hope you had a great day today and that everyone has a good weekend.

:) !S! :)

Uamhas
08-17-2007, 08:23 PM
I'm not a Tiger, though I can be seen running with them from time to time, so that doesn't count. You'd want to look up Attacks the Darkness to be gettin me again. :p

Well I'll just have to do that.
*hums the doot doot doo's from Tom's Diner & picks out a vibrant strand of multicolor corpses strung together*
C'mon I wanna lei you.
And you have my permission to feed the dead butterflies to Scar's kitties... I'm sure Memphis wouldn't turn his nose up at a little protein.

Scarsgaard
08-17-2007, 08:35 PM
Well I'll just have to do that.
*hums the doot doot doo's from Tom's Diner & picks out a vibrant strand of multicolor corpses strung together*
C'mon I wanna lei you.
And you have my permission to feed the dead butterflies to Scar's kitties... I'm sure Memphis wouldn't turn his nose up at a little protein.

Memphis likes birds n mice... it's the whole squacking sound they make when he's chomping.. sad thing is that it's my living room:eek:

narizue
08-18-2007, 03:52 AM
My pleasure tonight milady.

Uamhas
08-18-2007, 11:02 AM
My pleasure tonight milady.

The pleasure was all mine.
Utterly charmed.

incubo
08-18-2007, 11:16 AM
Erda got Happy Hour correctly... it is cleaning time. Oh how I hated Happy Hour!