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Luthen
08-05-2007, 12:23 PM
So there I am running my level 11 (at the time) Cleric/Paladin on the all new ThelXorThar server. I joined a PoP group of level 14s which had cleared all but the last room (someone may have been 13 but the majority was lvl 14s). I Figured that they lost someone due to IRL issues or LD and needed help completing or just being nice and allowing someone to join in for the last chest and end reward.

Heck I needed the XP as well so figured I join in. I get there and it seems like a solid group. Sorc, another cleric, tanks. Nicely rounded party at first glance. As Im in the group I start deducting that most of the party had never done PoP before except the Sorc and myself. However the Sorc seemed a little under expierienced himself but still knew the quest. Well we get to the bottom, orbs in slots and do some group buffs. Haste is cast and lever is pulled... and don;t you know that's when it all went wrong.

My Cleric/Pally (10/1 at the time) could use Heal Scrolls and Raise Dead but mostly I was DPSing (yes clerics if built with the right stats and gear can do that). Well I soon learn that I have more HP and AC then the tanks, the Sorc seems unable to drop Fire Walls, or any spell since he was at 1/4 spell points for the entire fight and running around doing almost nothing. the other cleric seemed overwhelmed and I end up switching from DPS tanking to full cleric mode. Normally I drop decent group heals around the fight or with scrolls, so I can continue to DPS.

Eventually I am the only one left standing and throwing scroll after scroll to rez and heal my party members back to full just to watch them die all over again because they can't seem to grasp the simplest concept of RUN AROUND UNTIL WE'RE ALL ALIVE AGAIN. This continues for about 4-5 minutes. After a solid 70k to 80k plat wasted in scrolls I gave up and allowed myself to die.

Not once ever on my home server had I witnessed such an utterly inept grouping of players. Now Xoriat has the rep of being rude and hateful. To this I say THANK YOU!! However... lets have some perspective here. Xorians don't "hate" everyone all the time. We love our mothers... mostly. However our expectations for our fellow players are simple. By level 14 you should know how to run the most basic of quests and also know how to play your character.

I for one have no patience for idiots. If you don't know a quest that's one thing. Live and learn and do better next time. If you don't know how to play your class after 11+ levels then I am sorry but you are now showing you're an idiot.

I guess this quest was my initiation to the worst that Thelanis has to offer (man I hope it can't get any worse). Welcome to Thelanis!!!!

Scarsgaard
08-05-2007, 12:38 PM
............My Cleric/Pally (10/1 at the time) could use Heal Scrolls and Raise Dead but mostly I was DPSing (yes clerics if built with the right stats and gear can do that). Well I soon learn that I have more HP and AC then the tanks, the Sorc seems unable to drop Fire Walls, or any spell since he was at 1/4 spell points for the entire fight and running around doing almost nothing. the other cleric seemed overwhelmed and I end up switching from DPS tanking to full cleric mode. Normally I drop decent group heals around the fight or with scrolls, so I can continue to DPS.

Eventually I am the only one left standing and throwing scroll after scroll to rez and heal my party members back to full just to watch them die all over again because they can't seem to grasp the simplest concept of RUN AROUND UNTIL WE'RE ALL ALIVE AGAIN. This continues for about 4-5 minutes. After a solid 70k to 80k plat wasted in scrolls I gave up and allowed myself to die. ....

OUchity Ouch...

I know your cleric... I think he's close to having mine beat by what 50HPs? (I'm running at 1350 mana and 300 HPs)... LOL...I can't even comment further on this... so far I've declined every tell asking for help in the Tor from ever non-Xorian. Instead the lowbee waters seem much nicer at this time of year... and I suspect that a lot of their best players are thinking the same way lol. I'd be real wary about PUGgin with the unknowns until we've updated our good/bad lists.:)

Kattoo
08-05-2007, 12:38 PM
I guess this quest was my initiation to the worst that Thelanis has to offer (man I hope it can't get any worse). Welcome to Thelanis!!!!

It does.

Generals
08-05-2007, 12:41 PM
Good bad and ugly runs abound. Choosing runs carefully, assessing the team and giving your best usually work out well when I pug it. Hard to completely avoid idiots and hyper personalities altogether tho.

Seen most types of newcomers, so far most have been decent. A lot more ppl and instances, makes for an interesting mix.

Lizzybrat
08-05-2007, 01:06 PM
Funny - my worse PUG experience so far has been with two people who moved over from another server.

Good to know the incompetence is universal!

By the way - typing 'heal me' in party chat when you are only 1/8 hit points down and we aren't even to the quest yet, puts you at the bottom of my healing list *grin*

I can't heal stupid.

Randz_Stormbringer
08-05-2007, 01:25 PM
Attention Xoriat scum!!!

I feel the hate, I've always felt the hate. Now there are others I can share the hate with. :D

Welcome to Thelanis, where xp sponges make it to lvl14...

Gorstag
08-05-2007, 01:43 PM
I thought I have been one of the lucky one, For several days I have actually been impressed with the pug pop groups I've been with, though this changed last night when I realized that I too now have fell victim to ignorant players. Group started off bad by our group leader and his wife dieing twice each on the run to pop...using the teleporter. One was a cleric, the other a sorc. Ok, that by itself is usually a bad enough sign that "Hey, maybe I should just drop now?" But I decided to see how it would go. Well, they finally make it to the quest and we get started, After clearing the initial hallway, our sorceror was already out of spellpoints and our cleric was by the end of the first room. Ugh....already have go shrine. Oh..and neither cleric or sorceror had a single kill yet as well. Nor did they when we finished, almost two hours later. We wipped final room because we had no spellpoints and they refused to recall for spellpoints. Then they died three more times or so each trying to get to the quest using the teleporter. I'm already getting disgusted talking about this, but needless to say that three members of the group have made it to my squelch list and has reignighted my xorian hate for stupid players. For that I thank you though. :)

Arlith
08-05-2007, 04:48 PM
Eventually I am the only one left standing and throwing scroll after scroll to rez and heal my party members back to full just to watch them die all over again because they can't seem to grasp the simplest concept of RUN AROUND UNTIL WE'RE ALL ALIVE AGAIN. This continues for about 4-5 minutes. After a solid 70k to 80k plat wasted in scrolls I gave up and allowed myself to die.

You know, Rian would have got them through without a wipe.


Group started off bad by our group leader and his wife dieing twice each on the run to pop...using the teleporter. One was a cleric, the other a sorc. Ok, that by itself is usually a bad enough sign that "Hey, maybe I should just drop now?" But I decided to see how it would go. Well, they finally make it to the quest and we get started, After clearing the initial hallway, our sorceror was already out of spellpoints and our cleric was by the end of the first room. Ugh....already have go shrine. Oh..and neither cleric or sorceror had a single kill yet as well. Nor did they when we finished, almost two hours later. We wipped final room because we had no spellpoints and they refused to recall for spellpoints. Then they died three more times or so each trying to get to the quest using the teleporter. I'm already getting disgusted talking about this, but needless to say that three members of the group have made it to my squelch list and has reignighted my xorian hate for stupid players. For that I thank you though. :)

I think I have it figured out... The good folks from our siamese sibling servers are trying to make us welcome. They read all our messages about hate, and want us feel at home. So they are sucking on purpose to give us somehting to rail against. (Disclaimer: For all the folks I have pugged with in the last few days that HAVEN'T sucked, this does not apply to you)

Scarsgaard
08-05-2007, 05:24 PM
Ok so here's my big question...

How do we give Honorary Hater Awards to Lizzy, General and Randz cause these cats are freakin cool...

...one question though... What's a xp sponge ?

Got Haterade?

Caelestis
08-05-2007, 05:28 PM
I tried to resist really . . .

Why do you (and people) feel the need to rant about a bad group on public forums? Yes, I realize you are ticked off, especially since you wasted pp in a quest where you should not even bother with scrolls, but why not just speak with those who caused it? Why not just rant to your friends and / or guildies?

I gotta say that my worst group ever (I rarely pug) never has come close to this so I don't quite know how you feel, but I can imagine. People who are not so hot at gaming abound EVERYWHERE on all servers. People who are phenomenal do also.

Many times, I have found, it is not necessarily the individuals alone in a group that cause things to mess up; many times it is a lack of sync with one another. More often than not, a "bad run" can happen even with a group of incredibly skilled people (which this group may or may not have been) if for some reason they fail to sync and mesh as a tight group.

It happens . . . on all servers . . . in a variety of styles . . . chalk it up to a bad run and move on, sheesh.

jaitee
08-05-2007, 05:30 PM
hehe i dont play on xoriat/thelanis, but sometimes i suck on purpose, last night in a pug group running pop i was clearing the hallways, almost soloing every room, while the group was standing outside the force field watching me, i asked, no one wants to help? they said nah, your good enough to do it by yourself, you are a sorc, the other caster just stood there and said umm, id rather stand here and do nothing, and i thought to myself, you know, im one of the most/better sorcs people know around here, but it doesnt mean i should be expected to run solo with a group of 6 people, so after that pop run, i decided i should slow down, and not think of myself as the only reason these pop runs are soo smooth and soo easy to the point of, the group thinking i can handle it all

so i decided to play the normal sorc, throwing out some CC here and there, and maybe a haste or two, and i realized one thing, they were depending on me soo much, that they were having many issues staying alive, one of the pug players actully said, why are we playing around, before this was soo easy, and now we are having a hard time, and i thought to myself, are you kidding me, before i was doing all the work, and you guys looted for free and got exp for free

needless to anything we went on, finally about 45 mins into the run, we are at the boss, we go in and everyone is dieing left and right, i threw down a FW, as the normal sorc would, and they were just not giving any effort into it, and then i was just thinking, i hate it when people expect a sorc to do it all, these melees were just sitting around in the boss room waiting for me to kill it like i did before, i raised the lvl 10 barb who was helping me the whole time, and we killed it, in a mere few seconds, then i dropped group after wards

well, the group was not BAD BAD, but they depended on me too much, if these players would have tried it would of been a great group :) maybe i was too harsh on the earlier runs, by not letting anyone kill anything, because i can clear it soo much faster, must of been boring for them, but soloing the rooms should never be just me alone, or with one other person in a 6 man group

i might be at fault here, but its just playstyle, i do solo alot, and am capable of doing these things, and it is a habit for me to kill things so fast, it leaves the group, rather bored, so ill take the fault here :D

now that shows, it all, how to pretend to suck, i know it was not a nice thing to do, but still a group should not rely on a single player to the point where, they want me to do it all

loki523
08-05-2007, 07:37 PM
I tried to resist really . . .

I tried to resist too but (and this goes for males AND females) when we're talking about in-game skill I really can't take anyone seriously whose sig is lavender. :o

Arlith
08-05-2007, 10:32 PM
...one question though... What's a xp sponge ?

When I first read this I asked the same thing. Then I remembered the last couple of pugs where one char would run off, grab three fights worth of aggro and bring them all back to wipe the party (true flyskit style). As I remembered the red overtaking the purple at the bottom of my screen each time he did that, I realized that he was indeed soaking up my xp.

Dislaimer: Flyskit is a now defunct character, and when referring to "flyskit style" I am not referring to the char itself but rather the unique, and somewhat deadly (for others), style of aggro management he perfected early in the game.

Brumby
08-05-2007, 10:50 PM
I feel you there Luthen... i was on my lvl 9 character doing CO6 elite... what a nightmare... We had a bunch of people beating on the reavers with weapons that just brought up zero's... So one of the guys starts running... Before you know it he gathered 5 reavers together and I had to kite and kill all of them by myself... what a horrible experience.

isldur
08-05-2007, 11:00 PM
When I first read this I asked the same thing. Then I remembered the last couple of pugs where one char would run off, grab three fights worth of aggro and bring them all back to wipe the party (true flyskit style). As I remembered the red overtaking the purple at the bottom of my screen each time he did that, I realized that he was indeed soaking up my xp.

Dislaimer: Flyskit is a now defunct character, and when referring to "flyskit style" I am not referring to the char itself but rather the unique, and somewhat deadly (for others), style of aggro management he perfected early in the game.

I have actually done that to a player who kept going afk. Not nice but very funny.

To the op get a scroll of tenser's and pull out the daggers, that will teach them.

Harbinder
08-05-2007, 11:36 PM
To some of you casters in the pug raids that my fighter failed *5 straight reaver raids* tonight with....I hate you. If 5 arcane casters (yeah, thats what I thought) can't keep the air elementals under control and dead in the reaver raid simply put you gotta go. You 3 wizards and 2 sorcs couldn't cut it on that last run, that's pretty sad. Shame and curses on you.

Ya'll have a hate-filled day. :)

~Harb

DDO_Ironwolf
08-06-2007, 12:19 AM
If you have to pug a quest run with the pack. We will help reverse the hatred of incompetence but by all means please keep your evil pride intact. It adds flavor.=)

5footStep
08-06-2007, 01:01 AM
After a solid 70k to 80k plat wasted in scrolls I gave up and allowed myself to die.

I guess this quest was my initiation to the worst that Thelanis has to offer (man I hope it can't get any worse). Welcome to Thelanis!!!!

Well all I can say.. oo I am SOOO going to become a scroll vendor now!:D

Merlask
08-06-2007, 01:35 AM
Well all I can say.. oo I am SOOO going to become a scroll vendor now!:D

all your scrolls are belong to us

Scarsgaard
08-06-2007, 02:10 AM
hehe i dont play on xoriat/thelanis, but sometimes i suck on purpose, last night in a pug group running pop i was clearing the hallways, almost soloing every room, while the group was standing outside the force field watching me, i asked, no one wants to help? they said nah, your good enough to do it by yourself, you are a sorc, the other caster just stood there and said umm, id rather stand here and do nothing, and i thought to myself, you know, im one of the most/better sorcs people know around here, but it doesnt mean i should be expected to run solo with a group of 6 people, so after that pop run, i decided i should slow down, and not think of myself as the only reason these pop runs are soo smooth and soo easy to the point of, the group thinking i can handle it all

so i decided to play the normal sorc, throwing out some CC here and there, and maybe a haste or two, and i realized one thing, they were depending on me soo much, that they were having many issues staying alive, one of the pug players actully said, why are we playing around, before this was soo easy, and now we are having a hard time, and i thought to myself, are you kidding me, before i was doing all the work, and you guys looted for free and got exp for free

needless to anything we went on, finally about 45 mins into the run, we are at the boss, we go in and everyone is dieing left and right, i threw down a FW, as the normal sorc would, and they were just not giving any effort into it, and then i was just thinking, i hate it when people expect a sorc to do it all, these melees were just sitting around in the boss room waiting for me to kill it like i did before, i raised the lvl 10 barb who was helping me the whole time, and we killed it, in a mere few seconds, then i dropped group after wards

well, the group was not BAD BAD, but they depended on me too much, if these players would have tried it would of been a great group :) maybe i was too harsh on the earlier runs, by not letting anyone kill anything, because i can clear it soo much faster, must of been boring for them, but soloing the rooms should never be just me alone, or with one other person in a 6 man group

i might be at fault here, but its just playstyle, i do solo alot, and am capable of doing these things, and it is a habit for me to kill things so fast, it leaves the group, rather bored, so ill take the fault here :D

now that shows, it all, how to pretend to suck, i know it was not a nice thing to do, but still a group should not rely on a single player to the point where, they want me to do it all

Oh man... I feel for ya.. there is nothing that I can say regarding your experience but...

1. you would so be welcome in many of our Guild for you sound like a great equal contributor

and

2. learning to drop from parties like you describe would be key to yor enjoyment... nothing wrong with being real;y good but being the crutch for useless twits is atrocious..

Man, I feel for ya... ouch:(

Lizzybrat
08-06-2007, 04:21 AM
Ok so here's my big question...

How do we give Honorary Hater Awards to Lizzy, General and Randz cause these cats are freakin cool...

Got Haterade?


Awww. I'd shed a tear but you might take away my honorary hater award.

And as a side note: I was reminded today that you can heal stupid. Stupid is terminal, therefore if you let the stupid person die and keep them dead then the stupidity is effectively healed.

Galwain
08-06-2007, 04:52 AM
Lizzy, i want some candy.

Berryman
08-06-2007, 06:02 AM
I can't heal stupid.

You mean cure stupidity lol

Ghoste
08-06-2007, 06:50 AM
I dont play on thelaskriat, but from what I understand you guys have done a pretty good job of whipping those who have remained on your server into shape. I hope those on your new server, and hopefully those on other servers as well, can learn a little bit from the Xorians.

I'm not trying to advocate a really hateful atmosphere, but I would really like to see more players having the gumption to firmly say "knock it off!" when that zerging dwarf throws an axe down the hallway full of beholders when the party was already occupied fighting the flesh render respawns he just pulled from the other direction.

And I dont buy into the whole "let people play however they want to play, it's funner that way" - that's a whole other matter. I'm not trying to fuss of build specifics, I'm talking about people who are bad team players, because the way I want to play, which is the way I find funner, means having nothing to do with people like that. If more people try to enforce cooperation a little more firmly, poor fools like that will find themselves wanting to work with the group effectively, and not being left out of more and more parties.

Battlehawk
08-06-2007, 08:21 AM
I have to say I have had better luck in PuGs in the Tor. I ran PoTP with a team of mainly guilded Tharashks and they were quite competent. So far my experiences with the Tharashks have been positive. The couple of Thelanis people I have teamed with knew the Reaver run (but used a slightly different strategy) and the rogue offered to do the puzzle.

Now one of my Guild members had a bad PoTP experience on Friday similar to Luthen's.

A XP sponge is like a gold farmer, does nothing in the party except leech xp off the better players doing all the work. Add bad engrish and its Kangba-Kangba all over again...

"respect is earned, scorn is free"

Murgatroyd
08-06-2007, 09:16 AM
Here's a nice quote that I found a few days ago that might explain the issue.

Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped.
-- Elbert Hubbard

Pittminion
08-06-2007, 12:38 PM
I was out of town for most of the weekend so I didn't get to run too much with the new servermates. But one stands out in my mind. (name withheld to protect the guilty and preserve the surprise when they pick him up in a pug) who got me blamed for the grease. Bastage. Too funny. Greasing the rails in made to order, that's just classic. Almost as good as me greasing the dragon approach to Velah.

Generals
08-06-2007, 12:38 PM
Almost as good as me greasing the dragon approach to Velah.

LOL that would so suck. Not sure if I would laugh or cry at that ... hehehehe

Pittminion
08-06-2007, 12:42 PM
After a certain point in the game there are only 3 things left to do, Lewt Whoring, favor chasing, and getting guildmates killed in fun and interesting ways.


*edit*
And you should laugh, because I've always got atleast 2 toons dragon ready to get you through it again if you really need dragon loot. Which I do on my new toon. I need a sos and the belt.

Clay
08-06-2007, 02:03 PM
Well, here I was running a Xorian Ciphers on normal and Hard in a 6-9 group... all looking for the phat XP.

And this total NEWB clr, named Saamis, kept messing things up... didn't have deathblock mem'd at the start... recalls after first completion before getting locked chests... Makes lame excuses about the order being different... whines for help to get back in to get the chests...

Then, after we change the order for him, on the hard run, he recalls after opening the chests, before we get completion! What a newb! Says "sorry on Gird Farming autopilot."

After calling the DWAT hotline for some emergency roadside assistance (Thanks Ribeye) and after getting back in, promptly dies again!

So, long story short... just watch out for the absent minded professor on Saamis. He's sure to mess up a smooth run! He's soo far below l337, he n003!

:) so sorry about that run guys!

P.S. Only self-bumping is against forum rules. others can do it for ya!

BUMP

Theris
08-06-2007, 02:14 PM
...
My Cleric/Pally (10/1 at the time) could use Heal Scrolls and Raise Dead but mostly I was DPSing (yes clerics if built with the right stats and gear can do that).
...
I guess this quest was my initiation to the worst that Thelanis has to offer (man I hope it can't get any worse). Welcome to Thelanis!!!!

Is your cleric a "battle cleric" build? If so coolness! we need more battle clerics cause they rock! :D (Where's Berryman? Berry i want more all cleric raids!)

Ouch! Sounds like you got the full "Welcome to Thelanis" on that run! :) It can get worse ... wait till you run with Fala or Shammy. They will bring you to a new level of burning Hate. ;)

Wotansdottir
08-06-2007, 02:47 PM
Is your cleric a "battle cleric" build? If so coolness! we need more battle clerics cause they rock! :D (Where's Berryman? Berry i want more all cleric raids!)

Ouch! Sounds like you got the full "Welcome to Thelanis" on that run! :) It can get worse ... wait till you run with Fala or Shammy. They will bring you to a new level of burning Hate. ;)

Am I the only one to have actually never grouped with Shammy? But still sad 'cuz I feel like I have, again, and again, and again... LOL... and Erda seconds that, she wants a cleric run. She has wanted that since she was born, last summer. Maybe time to steal the torch from B-man and begin anew before the rest of my guild gives up on DDO and defects to LOTR like half of them have already done...

Lizzybrat
08-06-2007, 03:28 PM
Am I the only one to have actually never grouped with Shammy? But still sad 'cuz I feel like I have, again, and again, and again... LOL... and Erda seconds that, she wants a cleric run. She has wanted that since she was born, last summer. Maybe time to steal the torch from B-man and begin anew before the rest of my guild gives up on DDO and defects to LOTR like half of them have already done...

You must be one of the lucky ones Erda!

And I third the all cleric run! They are too much fun.

Randz_Stormbringer
08-06-2007, 05:56 PM
Xp Sponge: That one useless person that should never become capped but does so by doing so many pugs with experience players doing all the work for him/her.

Eventually everyone learns that person's name and stops running with them.

:D Embrace the hate!

Randz_Stormbringer
08-06-2007, 06:09 PM
I do enjoy the server merge. Let's face it, the population on each of the server's was getting stale. Most new characters are rerolls. But, there was a comfort in it. Everyone knew at least a little about everyone, the best and the worst....

NOW I HAVE A WHOLE NEW LIST OF IDIOTS TO LEARN NOT TO RUN WITH!!!

Played all day yesterday, was stuck in two horrible pugs. Been a long time, so I haven't felt the rage in a while.

To the guy I ran Delara's with and said in a fatherly advice tone, "Don't worry, you'll learn how to aim those firewalls",... yeah thanks &@(% @$$ I solo Gianthold quests with my capped Sorc and you died 4 times pulling agro with fireballs.

:) Thanks, I feel better.

Zarbryn
08-06-2007, 06:53 PM
To some of you casters in the pug raids that my fighter failed *5 straight reaver raids* tonight with....I hate you. If 5 arcane casters (yeah, thats what I thought) can't keep the air elementals under control and dead in the reaver raid simply put you gotta go. You 3 wizards and 2 sorcs couldn't cut it on that last run, that's pretty sad. Shame and curses on you.

Ya'll have a hate-filled day. :)

~Harb

****, we were running the Reaver with 4 people (guildies), TWICE and kept seeing that Fail message... Sorry that was so painful for ya man, we were wondering what was going on.

5footStep
08-06-2007, 07:05 PM
Awww. I'd shed a tear but you might take away my honorary hater award.

And as a side note: I was reminded today that you can heal stupid. Stupid is terminal, therefore if you let the stupid person die and keep them dead then the stupidity is effectively healed.

See I keep telling ppl that corpses are way more portable!

PaintHorseCowboy
08-06-2007, 10:42 PM
...one question though...what's an xp sponge?



so i decided to play the normal sorc, throwing out some CC here and there, and maybe a haste or two, and i realized one thing, they were depending on me soo much, that they were having many issues staying alive, one of the pug players actully said, why are we playing around, before this was soo easy, and now we are having a hard time, and i thought to myself, are you kidding me, before i was doing all the work, and you guys looted for free and got exp for free

I think there is your answer.

Otherwise known on our server as a Coat-tail Rider.


As for my best story of ineptitude...
Nothing so cool as spending 80k plat resurrecting idiots...

So I was bored after running The Pit and figured since I've already made a pile of platnium selling mediocre weapons on the auction house, let's test how far the desperation for help really runs. So I auctioned The Pit Restart Manual. A funny joke on our home server....

Apparently it's new here because someone bought it out for 10k plat.

Wow.

Jundak
08-06-2007, 10:54 PM
So I was bored after running The Pit and figured since I've already made a pile of platnium selling mediocre weapons on the auction house, let's test how far the desperation for help really runs. So I auctioned The Pit Restart Manual. A funny joke on our home server....

Apparently it's new here because someone bought it out for 10k plat.

Wow.

That's just too funny!

I've had a couple of horrible experiences with the pugs these last couple of days...almost made me feel at home. :D

Clay
08-06-2007, 11:42 PM
So I was bored after running The Pit and figured since I've already made a pile of platnium selling mediocre weapons on the auction house, let's test how far the desperation for help really runs. So I auctioned The Pit Restart Manual. A funny joke on our home server....

Apparently it's new here because someone bought it out for 10k plat.

Wow.
roflmao

Tryp
08-07-2007, 12:11 AM
As for my best story of ineptitude...
Nothing so cool as spending 80k plat resurrecting idiots...

Heh, first pug scale run I jumped in on Thelashkriat....Xorasklanis...whatever...I spent all my spell points, plus FIFTY FOUR Heal scrolls getting the party from....get this...from the large room where the skellies spawn to the portal to the black dragon.... :eek:


So I auctioned The Pit Restart Manual. A funny joke on our home server....

Apparently it's new here because someone bought it out for 10k plat.


lmao

Wotansdottir
08-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Heh, first pug scale run I jumped in on Thelashkriat....Xorasklanis...whatever...I spent all my spell points, plus FIFTY FOUR Heal scrolls getting the party from....get this...from the large room where the skellies spawn to the portal to the black dragon.... :eek:



lmao

Hello sweet people.

I enjoy reading the posts from you guys wenching and wailing about PUG's. Don't you have guilds? I was, after reading the posts of the last few weeks, under the impression that there was going to be this sudden influx of uberness that was going to cause a sudden awakening to my less than uber ways and suddenly whip my sorry butt into shape. I understand the joys of being unguilded. All the **** about PUGs I just don't understand. You know what you're getting into, and it may be great, it may stink. But you expect it if you're going to PUG. Hence the sudden influx of soloing by many of the good players I know. Maybe you're just feeling stress. God knows there is enough to go around for most of us.

I have had two really great scale runs over the past few days, both PUGs. After being bored to tears over the past month or so on the game, it is nice to meet some good players from the new servers. It's just funny how people expect their bum to be kissed because they dropped 50 heal scrolls on a scale run. Ask for plat then. Erda's sitting pretty, like others I learned how to use the A.H. to fund my expeditions, but I game because I like to not because it's equitable. I expect to spend heal scrolls, I like to do elite high level quests but I always come prepared. I consider it a factor of playing a cleric. Not everyone does. But... If I never wanted to drop plat on playing a character, I'd play my fighter exclusively. You won't meet a lot of the really good players (IMO) from the original Thelanis guilds, is my guess, because many of them play guild-exclusively. Of course that is to say, there are a lot of good players I've met who are unguilded, or who like me float between my safe place and my larger guild.

Meh. I won't ask you to qwitcher*****in because it keeps me entertained.

On the other hand, 54 heal scrolls (you spent all your mana I see) in just the black dragon hallway is pretty bad... LOL... I am talking more like 50 for an entire run and that's just because I am anal about keeping my party at full health... :p

Welcome to Thelanis. Thelanishmishmashxoriataraskmcserver. It's a nice place. As it was, is, and ever shall be. Where the ladies are saucy, the halflings run underfoot, and hopefully you find some cool people to quest with.

Scarsgaard
08-07-2007, 01:36 PM
Hello sweet people.

Thelanishmishmashxoriataraskmcserver. .

Thats it.. the perfect server name!!!!:D

Wotansdottir
08-07-2007, 01:46 PM
If it were up to me, I'd rename the server Server McServerson. :D Acey McChoiceServer FTW! (I miss Vehdren!!!)

~S~

Sanadil
08-07-2007, 02:56 PM
Am I the only one to have actually never grouped with Shammy? But still sad 'cuz I feel like I have, again, and again, and again... LOL... and Erda seconds that, she wants a cleric run. She has wanted that since she was born, last summer. Maybe time to steal the torch from B-man and begin anew before the rest of my guild gives up on DDO and defects to LOTR like half of them have already done...


Which guild ;) TLC has only lost a few to LOTR, and they'll be back when Mod 5 comes out...... Count Vinton in on an all CL Raid!! They did rock...

Wotansdottir
08-07-2007, 05:27 PM
Which guild ;) TLC has only lost a few to LOTR, and they'll be back when Mod 5 comes out...... Count Vinton in on an all CL Raid!! They did rock...

OMG Vinton I know and I am SO sad, I just found out about 2 more who are defecting today... I don't want to think about it anymore. Especially with me being so tempted, Roenyn said "You know you can play as a chicken, right?" And that might have sent me over the edge... Of course in DDO I can play Siggy as a flail-monster, flailing around like Bart and Lisa Simpson hoping something gets in their way and they hit it, but in LOTR I can play AS AN ACTUAL CHICKEN. Word to your motha. :eek:

Lizzybrat
08-07-2007, 05:39 PM
OMG Vinton I know and I am SO sad, I just found out about 2 more who are defecting today... I don't want to think about it anymore. Especially with me being so tempted, Roenyn said "You know you can play as a chicken, right?" And that might have sent me over the edge... Of course in DDO I can play Siggy as a flail-monster, flailing around like Bart and Lisa Simpson hoping something gets in their way and they hit it, but in LOTR I can play AS AN ACTUAL CHICKEN. Word to your motha. :eek:

Erda I will hunt you down and drag you back here if you even think about leaving. Besides, I played LOTRO - it sucked. I came back, the rest will come back too.

*waves a hand* That is not the MMO you are looking for.

PaintHorseCowboy
08-07-2007, 07:37 PM
Sorry, forgot the screenie in my original post.

Hey it was late...or early depending on your point of view, and there was a whole lot less of the Captain Morgan than I started with.

Try not to laugh too hard.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x97/crazyhorse_ddo/PitRestartGuideAHSuccess.jpg

gorloch
08-07-2007, 07:49 PM
Sorry, forgot the screenie in my original post.

Hey it was late...or early depending on your point of view, and there was a whole lot less of the Captain Morgan than I started with.

Try not to laugh too hard.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x97/crazyhorse_ddo/PitRestartGuideAHSuccess.jpg

ROFLMAO...OMG that is the funniest thing I have seen all day. I wonder who the moron was that bought that.

PIXA

Theris
08-07-2007, 08:11 PM
If it were up to me, I'd rename the server Server McServerson. :D Acey McChoiceServer FTW! (I miss Vehdren!!!)

~S~

Why does that make me think of Server McServerson's Summer Indian Pale Ale? I prolly booze it up too much... :p

Tryp
08-07-2007, 08:31 PM
Hello sweet people.
I have had two really great scale runs over the past few days, both PUGs. After being bored to tears over the past month or so on the game, it is nice to meet some good players from the new servers. It's just funny how people expect their bum to be kissed because they dropped 50 heal scrolls on a scale run. Ask for plat then. Erda's sitting pretty, like others I learned how to use the A.H. to fund my expeditions, but I game because I like to not because it's equitable. I expect to spend heal scrolls, I like to do elite high level quests but I always come prepared. I consider it a factor of playing a cleric. Not everyone does. But... If I never wanted to drop plat on playing a character, I'd play my fighter exclusively. You won't meet a lot of the really good players (IMO) from the original Thelanis guilds, is my guess, because many of them play guild-exclusively. Of course that is to say, there are a lot of good players I've met who are unguilded, or who like me float between my safe place and my larger guild.

I HAVE had some really great runs, don't get me wrong. They're just not as fun to post about. :D
And I'm not asking anyone to kiss my arse here. I chose to play a cleric, and I finance my cleric without asking for anything.....now if people give me money, I'm gonna take it, but I'll never ask you for it.
This is not a server thing, either, had this happened before the merge, and I'd seen CrazyHorse's post then, I would have still posted.
And the same goes for most of the good Xoriat guilds. The only time you'll see them pug'n is if no one else is on, or they're the odd man out when the group(s) form.



Meh. I won't ask you to qwitcher*****in because it keeps me entertained.

I'll be here all week.
And I'm really not *****in here. I saw a similar experience posted, so I shared mine. If I were *****in, then there would have been a lot more of these - ***** ;)


On the other hand, 54 heal scrolls (you spent all your mana I see) in just the black dragon hallway is pretty bad... LOL... I am talking more like 50 for an entire run and that's just because I am anal about keeping my party at full health... :p

See?? That IS bad! lol
Most pugs I don't even spend that on. Especially in a quest with that many shrines...there's just no need.

Wotansdottir
08-07-2007, 09:00 PM
Yes.... Sharing experiences. How about it! :D

There is just only so much a girl can take. :mad:

Like we've never met n00bs before. :p

Fo shizzle! :eek:

You know the drill.... It all comes down to: :confused:

All your phat lewtz are belong to Erda!! ;)

Carry on. :)

Duplicate_18
08-08-2007, 12:06 AM
Alrighty let me set this up for ya...I log in and see a frickton of people logged in on Saturday night, so should be no problem getting a PoP run going. I check the guild, 20 peeps on...Nope, noone free.

I set the LFM, PotP 12-14 All Welcome. 13.5 seconds later I think I have the perfect group...Me (14 Fighter), Sorc, Wiz, Ranger, Pally, Cleric. Sorry to the 12 others that wanted in. :)

This should go well... Head out, fine, Wiz and Pally need to make the run, no sweat. They do alone, no damage. Get in the quest, buffs and haste all around..oh wait the wiz doesn't have haste, I can deal with that, that's what potions are for. :D

So far so good, round the first corner...ah crud...WIZ is dead...already & how? OK, rez heal and we are off again. Eek..need a little firewall to deal with too much aggro draw from wiz popping off half power spells on multiple targets, ask the wiz to lay one out...what you don't have firewall? How the frick do you not have firewall? Sorc gets it, we are OK, for now. Ask the Wiz to keep it to croud control, if he is unable to cast effective damage spells.

Smooth sailing to the top (I think there are 6 vorpals between the group). Get in the skellie room. Wiz dead...*** how did he even get aggro, the skellie was dead within three swings of a disruptor from the pally. Alrighty get him up and go on.

At this point we all realize that he is not following direction well and generaly being a pain, but the job is getting done, so we all just laugh it off.

Ok, now to the rooms, We get marut done quickly no big deal.

Off to fire. Call out for everyone to get resists, I see a few flames go off, everyone appears to be set, cleric calls out for everyone to make sure the are covered, get yeps all around. door closes, guess what...the WIZ drops, before Charoush even appears. Four Fire elementals are up and we are going to wipe, Cleric gets the door opened before all is lost and reset to do it again. 30 point Resists on everyone now? Yups all around. Do a info look on quickly dead wizzie, nope no resist. Ask him specifically, are you covered for Fire? Get a yep. OK pulling. Wiz dies instantly. OK, a little annoyed now. Text the Cleric, keep him dead. Mephits this time. They die quickly. Cleric didn't get the "keep him dead" memo in time, he is up.

OK next room, vamp dies to disruptor before we can blink, Wiz standing in corner facing the corner, blue bar goes nowhere, noone dies.

Cold next, no way I am going into air with a wiz that can't cast and sorc is out of mana. Cold room, sorc pulls and goes to shrine, wiz dies instantly, we clear the room. Someone drags the wiz stone close enough to the shrine so he can rez.

Next room...Demon Princess, no sweat dead in three swings as well. Huh...no chests yet, this sucks.

Back to air...we are actually going to do this. OK Air was decent the only death was the Wiz. Everyone gets there loot (+1 charisma Tome for me) and we drag the Wiz stone to the top for the beholder room. I figure the wiz isn't going to be able to do much in here, as he hasn't for any other room, so I suggest he pull the switch. We are all ready and I say pull. He types in to wait that he needs his chest and leaves...without pulling. :mad: I start yelling obsenities and he just keeps running to his precious chest. Ranger (I think) pops out and pulls it. Best beholder room EVAR...everything is dead from the sorc and cleric within seconds. I am the only one stunned.

Off to do the boss. Featherfall items check. Wiz picked up firewall and haste at shrine, check. Pull switch, hit bottom and get set up. This may work. Activate WF. Firewalls good. Dude is at half damage and the Cleric runs out of mana and Mind flayers pop...ohoh...this is gonna end badly. Everyone starts hitting pots as fast as possible and yeah, we wipe. Cleric recalls to get mana and run us to the shrine, Sorc is quickly on his heels as is the ranger, so its just me, pally and the wizzie here. I start to really lose it at this point. I am having thoughts of pulling out and pass the star. And then it hits me this is a good group we CAN do this..five man. "Give me the star."

I tell the wizzie that he must recall for mana or we are not finishing the quest. I wasn't dishonest. We were not gonna be able to complete this without him recalling. He complies. I kick him faster than Jodie kicked Chachie.

I get a hearty thanks and a couple "saw that coming"s. We finish it all in 113 minutes. Keep the main group together and pick up a sixth and run it again in 32 minutes.

Ok I feel better now...thanks for starting the thread!


:cool:

XFracture
08-08-2007, 04:14 AM
ROFLMAO...OMG that is the funniest thing I have seen all day. I wonder who the moron was that bought that.

PIXA

He prolly bought it from himself so he could have a good story. Regardless, it's still a funny screenie.

Perryc
08-08-2007, 05:21 AM
Don't even try to do Desert stuff with a random PuG. If you can't run these quests with a group of players you know and trust, at least find a party with members of respectable guilds (Xorians, you know the ones). Otherwise you are almost certain to have a significant emotional experience.

Don't get me wrong, there are good guilds and players from Tharashk and Thelanis; I have had some excellent experiences with many of you and I look forward to many more. I have, however, had several experiences similar to Luthen's since the merge. To the players in those groups; the hate has a long memory.

PaintHorseCowboy
08-08-2007, 10:01 AM
He prolly bought it from himself so he could have a good story. Regardless, it's still a funny screenie.

Oh yeah, ya got me. I definately needed The Pit Restart Manual on my OTHER toon, and once he's done with The Pit, I'll AH it and buy it with my third toon, and so on and so forth until I've gotten them all through The Pit on elite.

And it's only because I have no idea how to do that quest that I need that book SOOOOOO badly and no guildmates to help me transfer it.

Yep, ya caught me. [/sarcasm]

Kommunity_Kobold
08-08-2007, 04:05 PM
*Gnashes Teeth*