2 WFighting build DPS

[juniorpfactors]

looking for a tested 2 WFighting build DPS style...possible palidan anyone have a tested build they are proud of...self buffing bard to duel wield kopeshes type with a cleave or whirlwind ...post your style..

[Dariuss]

I just made a STR based Ranger. He's only lvl 3 right now, but he is out-damaging any build I've played so far. Way more powerful than my Pali.

BUT, his AC is lower. Although he can wand heal himself in between fights.

He's using a Dwarven Axe/Hand Axe combo.

[Albel]

Just built a DPS TWF'er and I absolutely love playing him. His overall build is Pally 3/ Ranger 11. Starting Stats were (iirc):

STR 16
DEX 15
CON 16
INT 8
WIS 12
CHA 12

He's 32 points and read a +1 STR tome at generation (and got handed gear for the first few levels from my main). In the end he'll have 26 STR, 22 DEX, and be running around in +5Mith Fullplate with dwarven enhancements to make use of the dex for ac, right now he's only lvl 6 but he runs around with 30 ac unbuffed, and 35 when self buffed, all while TWF'ing if I need to use a shield he gets 41ac. It's a fun build to play. :)

Oh and if you have any questions I'd ask around in the rangers forum, or you can PM me and I might be able to help you.

[juniorpfactors]

never played a ranger so dont know what that brings to the build

[Dariuss]

Well you get all the two weapon fighting feats for free - and without having to have the Dex pre-requisites.

You also get the bow strength feat, allowing you to use STR for ranged combat instead of DEX.

Acess to spells comes at lvl 4, but you can use Cure wands when you hit the minimum level for them.

You only get the Light Armor feat though, so (in my opinion) it's important to have enough DEX to get your Max Dex bonus.

[A_Sheep]

I recently made a dual-wielding Bard whom I am very proud of and gets a good deal of compliments.

Linky (http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=116193)



self buffing bard to duel wield kopeshes type

You read my mind....

Although I don't really dual-wield khopeshes (although I probably should sometimes). The to-hit loss isn't worth the marginal increase in DPS from the crit range over the kurkri in my opinion.

[Albel]

You also get the bow strength feat, allowing you to use STR for ranged combat instead of DEX.


Bzzt, Bow Strength allows you to add you STR modifier to damage with bows, you still use dex for the to-hit roll, normally no extra damage from stats are applied to bows.

And I took the Paladin levels for several reasons, aura, proficiencies etc.

[blaten22]

Post here buy the name of Gol has a awesome STR based ranger. Is Dwarven. Have to do a search on it though as i'm at work and boss is coming

[bandyman1]

My build is a halfling rogue2/fighter12. 24 Str. and a 30 Dex. Del has Greater TWF, Whirlwind, and she's a Weapon Finesse build with Imp. Crit-Piercing. I dual-wield bursting light picks ( +5 shocking burst in the main hand, +2 Icy burst of backstabbing { +3 to hit, +5 dmg. } in the off hand ) . Damage is excellent ( especially with a bloodstone ). I routinely lead kill counts, have 270 HPs ( could be better with a greater false life item ), evasion with a +25 reflex ( +29 with GH ), and can hit a 49 AC dual-wielding with a BS pot, and shield clickie ( easily mid-to-high 50s with party buffs ), WITHOUT a single piece of raid gear.

My build was wiped with the Class Forum fiasco, so PM me for details if you're interested.

PS. I feel I should stress, Del is a TWF evasion TANK. The two lvls of rogue give her evasion, and UMD as a class skill. As you start to take fighter lvls, you will NOT have the skill points to max Seach, Spot, Disable Device, and Open Lock. I repeat, this build is NOT a batman build.

[Indrn_Fretgoop]

Your best bet is to make a Dwarf fighter TWF with Improved crit puncturing, Weapon specialty Picks, and Improved critical picks, and power attack. Dual wielding picks means you have 19-20 crit range and since they have light picks you wont get a pen. in your offhand. Also since as a fighter you will have access to FIghter armor mastery and dwarven armor mastery you can make the max dex bonus on your normal full plate a +7 (+1 base +3 dwarven master enhacment line/+3 fighte enhacment line) also benefiting fully from a paldin in your group. You can also get the "haste" enhacment line so you can make sure your double hasted to pull out those 190+ point crits killing mobs in an instant.

[maddong]

elf fighter 14

S18 (increase with levels)
D16 (+1 tome for greater twf)
C12
I12 (jump, balance, umd)
W8
C8

1 two weapon fighting
2 weapon focus piercing
4 weapon spec piercing
6 improved two weapon fighting
8 improved critical piercing
10 power attack
12 greater two weapon fighting
14 greater weapon spec piercing

1 toughness
3 least mark of shadow
6 lesser mark of shadow
9 power critical if you are worried about confirming crits
12 toughness

take the 4 extra dragon marked enhancement for 6 displacements a day
take the rapier hit/dam enhancements (people have said mathematically you break even with khopesh if you are en elf, and you can still use the piercing/wounding piercing/wounding combo)
fighter toughness for 50 extra hp (plus 32 from the feats)

I posted this under elven shadowblade in the fighter forums.

[juniorpfactors]

crit range on picks is really poor wont go that route

[bandyman1]

crit range on picks is really poor wont go that route

Psst....not any less than dwarven axes, and they do X4 damage on a crit ( + 3d10 extra on a elemental bust ), and a booldstone will give ya +24 dmg. on every crit.

[EinarMal]

crit range on picks is really poor wont go that route

Yeah if you take his post and change fighter=barbarian it is actually pretty good. That is the highest DPS build you can build with TWF. Go Barbarian if you want to max out damage and the improved critical enhancements makes stat damaging incredible and you have the IC piercing either way.

[BluePaladin24]

I have been thinking about this quite a bit. IMHO the best one would probably be a Drow 3 lvls pali, 2 lvls of rogue (evasion), and the rest fighter. Max out your dex, and take wpn finesse, wpn focus piercing, and focus on rapiers and short swords. Take the enhancements for the Drow melee, your hits may not do tons of damage, but you will not miss much

[Deslen]

Lyrin, my main fighter, is a dual khopesh wielding 14th level drow Fighter. I get about as much DPS as your typical barbarian... not as much as an elite barbarian with tons of raid gear and other junk, but I do just fine. Plus, I have a 41 unbuffed AC. CE and a shield clickie pop me up to 50. Granted, I have a lot of high end gear, and it wasn't neccessarily easy to get where I'm at, but I've found that the sheer number of feats a Fighter gets make them most ideal for a DPS dual wielder.

You can likely find me running around on Khyber >.>

[arcane_nite]

By FAR a specc'd rapier wielding, wounding of puncturing barbarian. I tried this (un specc'd) with my halfling barb. I was using keen of puncturing rapiers and just wasted mobs quicker than with a greataxe or greatsword. A fully specc'd character of this type would be ridiculous.

[sigtrent]

The strongest DPSer is likely the TWF barbarians.. The crit enhancment, str bonuses, and a weapon like rapier sends them over the edge at high levels.

I have a nice TWF elven Rogue9/Barbarian2/Ranger2. Between a decent str, rapier enhancments, and backstab bonuses he can dish out some awesome damage so long as he doesn't pull agro, and that isn't too hard to do if you are practiced at it. The key here is he has some 5d6 + 14 just from sneak attack on each swing as well as a bonus +6 to hit.

[Gimpster]

By FAR a specc'd rapier wielding, wounding of puncturing barbarian.
Except, of course, they're not quite doing actual "DPS".

When you come up against the places where you really want DPS, it's a red-named boss monster, and all that puncturing has no effect at all.

[rimble]

By FAR a specc'd rapier wielding, wounding of puncturing barbarian. I tried this (un specc'd) with my halfling barb. I was using keen of puncturing rapiers and just wasted mobs quicker than with a greataxe or greatsword. A fully specc'd character of this type would be ridiculous.

I thought about this too...but what scared me off is this isn't very future proof. I can make a pretty kick-ass Two-Rapier Wielding Barbarian with 17 Dex...but I'm afraid later TWF Feats in future modules will require 19 or higher Dex...and that'll hose the Barbarian (or any TWFer trimming their Dex tight) horribly. Maybe I'm overly optimistic thinking the game will be around long enough for that to even be a problem...but regardless, it's my opinion that a Strength based TWF Ranger is at least the most future proof Two-Weapon character. Precedence exists in PnP for Superior Weapon Fighting to have a 19 Dex requirement.

Obviously Max-Dex Weapon Finessers would be covered too.

If you can reroll and level up pretty quickly via guild or whatever, I'd go for the Barbarian...besides, a Drow Barbarian would be hilarious...but I like trying to be somewhat future proof (paranoid).

[EinarMal]

Except, of course, they're not quite doing actual "DPS".

When you come up against the places where you really want DPS, it's a red-named boss monster, and all that puncturing has no effect at all.

If you go strength based as a Barbarian that is not a problem you just switch to bursting rapiers or whatever non-stat damaging versions you have. You aren't in any way limited to those it just is the "best" choice when you can use them. If you can fit in power attack then you can just switch to a two hander for boss mobs as well.

[EinarMal]

I thought about this too...but what scared me off is this isn't very future proof. I can make a pretty kick-ass Two-Rapier Wielding Barbarian with 17 Dex...but I'm afraid later TWF Feats in future modules will require 19 or higher Dex...and that'll hose the Barbarian (or any TWFer trimming their Dex tight) horribly. Maybe I'm overly optimistic thinking the game will be around long enough for that to even be a problem...but regardless, it's my opinion that a Strength based TWF Ranger is at least the most future proof Two-Weapon character. Precedence exists in PnP for Superior Weapon Fighting to have a 19 Dex requirement.

Obviously Max-Dex Weapon Finessers would be covered too.

If you can reroll and level up pretty quickly via guild or whatever, I'd go for the Barbarian...besides, a Drow Barbarian would be hilarious...but I like trying to be somewhat future proof (paranoid).

If you start with 17 dex you should be fine. Your last feat is at level 18 and I can't imagine a +2 tome being THAT hard to get by the time you get there. Unbound tomes should be dropping then and be as common as +1 tomes are now.

[rimble]

If you start with 17 dex you should be fine. Your last feat is at level 18 and I can't imagine a +2 tome being THAT hard to get by the time you get there. Unbound tomes should be dropping then and be as common as +1 tomes are now.

Well I guess that's sort of what I was warning about...lots of people starting with a 15/16 Dex and Toming up to 17...they won't be able to tome up farther unless bigger tomes come out. It's just something to consider. You might end up having to sink a level up ability point into Dex at some point, but I guess that's not such a horrible thing.

[EinarMal]

Well I guess that's sort of what I was warning about...lots of people starting with a 15/16 Dex and Toming up to 17...they won't be able to tome up farther unless bigger tomes come out. It's just something to consider. You might end up having to sink a level up ability point into Dex at some point, but I guess that's not such a horrible thing.

I agree starting with 15 dex is very risky. I can see 16 with the assumption that +3 tomes should be more common rewards by level 18.

I would not start with 15.

[EinarMal]

This is what I would do...

Drow Barbarian (TWF Neutral Good)

Stats:
Str 18 (38 = 18 +3 Levels +1 Tome +6 Item +10 Rage)
Dex 16 (22 = 16 +1 Tome + 5 Item)
Con 12 (30 = 12 +2 Favor Tome +6 Item +8 Rage +2 Enh)
Int 10
Wis 8
Cha 10

Feats:
TWF
Power Attack
ITWF
IC Piercing
GTWF

HP:
168 (14 Barb) + 140(Con) + 20(Heroic) +30(GFL) +10(Draconic) = 368

Enh:
Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Barbarian Extended Rage II
Barbarian Constitution II
Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Drow Melee Damage II
Drow Melee Attack II
Barbarian Damage Reduction Boost IV
Barbarian Power Rage IV
Barbarian Extra Rage II
Barbarian Critical Rage II

[juniorpfactors]

ya I am looking for a permahasted dualswinger...so it would probably need to incorporate the bard...thanks but barbarians cant umd or heal...i am stuck between bard/ paly or ranger hybrid

[EinarMal]

ya I am looking for a permahasted dualswinger...so it would probably need to incorporate the bard...thanks but barbarians cant umd or heal...i am stuck between bard/ paly or ranger hybrid

If you mean a dual class bard/paladin I can solve that one for you as it is not possible due to alignment restrictions...

[juniorpfactors]

no I am not a noob.....as in ranger/paly or fighter/paly ... bard13/fighter1

[rimble]

no I am not a noob.....as in ranger/paly or fighter/paly ... bard13/fighter1

Yeah just do a Dwarven Bard. Leave Charisma at 12, don't cast offensive spells, chop stuff up.

[sigtrent]

Yeah just do a Dwarven Bard. Leave Charisma at 12, don't cast offensive spells, chop stuff up.

Not if you are TWF... Drow with rapiers is just a lot easier to make work because dex is easy to come by for the feat requirements, and you get extra charisma. There is the HP issue... :)

[EinarMal]

no I am not a noob.....as in ranger/paly or fighter/paly ... bard13/fighter1

Well if the goal is to self haste only one of those can do that. You pretty much have to go Bard/Fighter to get TWF/Self Haste/Healing/UMD.....

Something like

(posted in Bard forums)
Warchanting Tempest

Goals:
Basically to be the biggest baddest TWF Bard on the planet. With 4 levels of fighter hit points are closing in on 300 and damage is top notch. At level 15 this build will take weapon spec for an additional +2 damage per swing.

(Drow Male Neutral Warchanter Bard 10/Fighter 4)

Stats:
Str 16 (30 =16 +3 Levels +1 Enh. +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Rage)
Dex 16 (24 =16 +1 Tome +1 Enh. +6 Item)
Con 12 (22 =12 +2 Tome +6 Item +2 Rage)
Int 10 10
Wis 8 8
Cha 16 (24 =16 +1 Tome +1 Enh. +6 Item)

Progression:
1-Bard
2-Fighter
3 thru 5-Bard
6-Fighter
7 thru 11-Bard
12-Figther
13-Bard
14-Fighter

Hit Points @14:
100(Levels) +20(Heroic) +10(Draconic) +30(GFL) +84(Con) +16 (Toughness) + 15(Fighter Toughness II) =275

SP:
275(10 Bard) +114(Cha) +100(Magi) +40(EOM II) = 529

Feats:
Extend
(FB) TWF
WF Piercing
(FB)PA
Toughness
ITWF
IC Piercing
(FB)GTWF

Enhancements:
Inspired Attack II
Inspired Damage II
Inspired Bravery II
Warchanter
Fighter Toughness II
Drow Melee Attack II
Drow Melee Damage II
Fighter Strength I
Drow Dex I
Bard EOM II
Bard Lingering Song III
Fighter Haste Boost II
Figther Critical Accuracy I
Bard Charisma I
Bard Extra Song III

To Hit @14
BAB 11
Racial 2
Str 10
Weapon 5
Song 7
WF 1
Focusing Chant 1
Haste 1
TWF -2
PA -5
+36 (31 PA)

Damage @14
Weapon 5
Str 10
Song 6
PA 5
Racial 2
+28

Weapons:
+5 Holy Rapier/Shortsword w/ Bloodstone

DPS:
Rapier = 1d6 + 28 +2d6(Holy) = 31.5 + 7 (63 + 19 Critical) = 72.78
Shortsword = 1d6 + 23 +2d6(Holy) = 26.5 + 7 (53 + 19 Critical) = 43.48
Total = 116.26

[maddong]

haste potions are cheap.

but displacement is huge.

[Ithrani]

1: Straight human fighter uses a scimitar and kukri with power attack. Level 9 now and owns everything, but also gets hit often, more HP off-sets this though same as a barbarian with THF, a lot of HP a lot of damage done. Also uses fighter speed boost, haste all that good stuff to do very fast attack sequences.

2: 2ranger/2fighter/10rogue drow uses rapier and short sword. For the most part I use con damage from punt. wounding. But I got treason recently and well thats just a beast to have in your off-hand cause you almost never draw agro. I use that with a +10 seeker rapier and do about 70 damage on crits and hardly find enemies turning to attack me as long as there is a tank hitting them first. I also use subtle backstabber 20% which helps a lot since I am sure they stack.

As for D-axes vs Picks, I would have to go with the pick. Same crit range and one does more on crits and can have puncturing on them. But you will as anyone does have to use a slashing weapon if you ever want to vorpal something, but it hardly matters. BAB and bonuses in this game assure hits, and crits even more so.

[Draclaud]

And nothing else...I'd go with a Str Ranger using Dual Khopeshes.

[Flintsen]

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.65
DDO Character Planner Home Page (http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO)

Level 14 Chaotic Good Elf Male
(14 Barbarian)
Hit Points: 230
Spell Points: 0
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 9
Will: 3

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Abilities Base Stats Modified Stats
(32 Point) (Level 1) (Level 14)
Strength 18 22
Dexterity 17 20
Constitution 13 17
Intelligence 8 8
Wisdom 8 8
Charisma 8 8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1

Starting Feat/Enhancement
Base Skills Modified Skills
Skills (Level 1) (Level 14)
Balance 4 5
Bluff -1 -1
Concentration 2 3
Diplomacy -1 -1
Disable Device n/a n/a
Haggle -1 -1
Heal -1 -1
Hide 4 5
Intimidate -1 -1
Jump 4 6
Listen -1 1
Move Silently 4 5
Open Lock n/a n/a
Perform n/a n/a
Repair -1 -1
Search -1 1
Spot -1 1
Swim 4 6
Tumble n/a n/a
Use Magic Device n/a n/a

Level 1 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting

Level 2 (Barbarian)

Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack

Level 4 (Barbarian)

Level 5 (Barbarian)

Level 6 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons

Level 7 (Barbarian)

Level 8 (Barbarian)

Level 9 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting

Level 10 (Barbarian)

Level 11 (Barbarian)

Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons

Level 13 (Barbarian)

Level 14 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Critical Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction I
Enhancement: Barbarian Improved Damage Reduction II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Extend Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Extra Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage II
Enhancement: Barbarian Hardy Rage III
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage II
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity I
Enhancement: Elven Dexterity II
Enhancement: Elf Melee Attack I
Enhancement: Elf Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution III

[Casta]

Iv had a dex based twf fighter for a while i like, its not 32 point because there was no 32 point or drow when i made it, but its still a solid build threw all the changes.

Elf 12 fighter 2 rogue
Str 16
dex 20+3
con 8
int 8
wis 8
cha 8

Feats not in any order
Two weapon fighting
improved two weapon fighting
greater two weapon fighting
weapon fineness
dodge should probaly take it out for something else this build is not a tank and dosen't pretend to be
improved crit piercing
weapon focus piercing
weapon specialization piercing
greater weapon specialization piercing
precision again should switch this because i don't use it very often hit is high already

This build isen't for everyone with a robe i have 30 ac, thats good for a robe but still means you will get hit by everything. It dies fast if your not careful.

[Impaqt]

See the DeathDealer build Linked in my Sig (Leesa)

There is something to be said for a Str Based Dwarven Ranger though.....

[juniorpfactors]

i am sorry i was looking at your stats.....

con 8......maybe that was a typo? 18 probably