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Tiberius0000
07-10-2007, 01:47 PM
How is this played? Does it mean if you die in quest, you can't Recall during the remainder of the time that the party is in there, unless your stone is brought to a Resurrection Shrine or does it mean that the character must be deleted...forever.

Mad_Bombardier
07-10-2007, 01:57 PM
How is this played? Does it mean if you die in quest, you can't Recall during the remainder of the time that the party is in there, unless your stone is brought to a Resurrection Shrine or does it mean that the character must be deleted...forever.Unless there is a high level Cleric in the party to cast Raise Dead on you, you are dead and must delete. Use of Rez shrines is not allowed (except to quickly raise to pass gear to other party members before character deletion).

There is a less stringent "team permadeath" variant that allows your party to continue and if they successfully finish the quest, then carry your corpse to get outside help. But if they cannot complete the quest and party wipe, everyone deletes.

Sojourner
07-10-2007, 03:04 PM
It is pretty much up to the guild or party.

Three main variants, depending on how strict you want to be:

1) Strict -- Character Reroll unless the cleric/bard in your party can cast or scroll Raise Dead

2) Shrines Ok -- Character reroll unless you can get rezzed in the mission. Be that by spell, scroll, item, or shrine.

3) "PD Lite" -- You're not truly dead as long as it isn't a complete party wipe. Two subvariants to this one:
3a) If anyone survives, you all survive. The survivors dragged your sorry corpses out of the mission and found a friendly cleric to rez you.
3b) As long as at least 1 person completes the mission and lives, you all survive. Like 3a, but surviving party members can't drag you out of the mission until they complete it.


If you're thinking about playing PD -- find some guilds that do it and ask them:
* What their rules are for Rez's.
* What their rules are for passing on the gear the dead character had
* What their rules are for leveling characters before they go into Permadeath mode
--- (Some guilds will let you hit level 2, 3, or wherever the majority of the guild is before you have to follow permadeath rules)

Albel
07-10-2007, 03:54 PM
It is pretty much up to the guild or party.

Three main variants, depending on how strict you want to be:

1) Strict -- Character Reroll unless the cleric/bard in your party can cast or scroll Raise Dead

2) Shrines Ok -- Character reroll unless you can get rezzed in the mission. Be that by spell, scroll, item, or shrine.

3) "PD Lite" -- You're not truly dead as long as it isn't a complete party wipe. Two subvariants to this one:
3a) If anyone survives, you all survive. The survivors dragged your sorry corpses out of the mission and found a friendly cleric to rez you.
3b) As long as at least 1 person completes the mission and lives, you all survive. Like 3a, but surviving party members can't drag you out of the mission until they complete it.


If you're thinking about playing PD -- find some guilds that do it and ask them:
* What their rules are for Rez's.
* What their rules are for passing on the gear the dead character had
* What their rules are for leveling characters before they go into Permadeath mode
--- (Some guilds will let you hit level 2, 3, or wherever the majority of the guild is before you have to follow permadeath rules)

Additional rules to the above can include that you must play with the same team all the time, that you cannot level until the whole party can level at the same time, and of course no playing the PD toon outside of the PD group except to run quests that you missed when the group got together last (say you were late or something) and of course you don't have to delete your PD toon when you die, you just can't use that toon in PD groups anymore.

Other than those minor points Sojourner has it right. Ask the PD group you want to join what there rules are then plan around that.

Tiberius0000
07-11-2007, 12:00 PM
I appreciate your replys.